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hoopernikao:
Sir,
All these aren't what I asked you. There is an issue you raised at hand that you aren't addressing. This is not about winning or losing. This is about putting things in right places.

This is what is required of you.
Give a detailed biblical explanation to correct the perceived mistake or error that you claimed unstoppable51 made. You are yet to do this both here and in his OP. But you have called him false teacher at least twice.

This is what you should address. Let your teaching and explanation expose his perceived false teachings, then we can understand your stand.

It is proper for a believer to expose "false teaching" with a "true teaching". Teaching brings knowledge and stability. If you think you have a different view from what he raised, lay them out clearly, thoroughly and properly.
This, you haven't done.

Now you have changed your position for you clearly asked=

hoopernikao:
Re: Unstoppable51 Has Killed You All With His Shit Thread About Judgement Day!! by hoopernikao: 2:25pm

Dtruthspeaker:
I did not quote scriptures because it is the Law that "What is Self-Evident does not require evidence" and What is Proven does not require any Proof!

"Is the bold above a scriptural citation? I hope you know that the bold is a citation from a different book. It will take less effort if you have cited the scriptures to handle same issue, also it likewise honors the scriptures in our midst.

Whatever your stand Sir. You can't do it without giving scriptural evidence.

You can't argue a bible citation with external thought or personal opinion. It is when you explain with scriptures that is when you are seen as a believer, a bible student.

And I answered!
But now I appreciate that you have moved to issue 2 which was your aim all along but you thought that you could make me fall on issue 1 seeing that I did not directly present any scriptural Law for my Answer.

But now that you are unable to refute my answers, you have now clearly called on me to address your real issue with my post about unstoppable51, which you did not Clearly Express for it was ambiguous as you made it to be, hence the direction of my Answers above, which you did not discourage or correct.

So now to the issue of your interest that is why did I call unstoppable51 a false prophet?

Before I answer, do confirm that this is the issue you want me to address?

hoopernikao:
Please explain the unstoppable51 error for me to know why you called him false teacher. It is a grave accusation but you aren't ready to give such defence and account for your words.

Don't let us treat Christianity with stories and person opinions. Go straight to the word and divide it thoroughly. It takes less effort and more joy to do that than the 3 posts you have given me here o.

Let's put the First Issue you raised to rest first, then we can go on to this issue.

hoopernikao:
Bro, bible and Bible alone, let's leave Jollof rice now.

Let's focus on bible diligence. Since you call him out, you should be able to give your time to us and explain well. Or can't you do that for Jesus? Giving your time, paying the price of stress and labor to educate others. Please give this detailed explanation of what you learnt from Christ himself. We can't rely on hearsay but the word of God.

I have just addressed this in my answer above.

hoopernikao:
Is the bold above a scriptural citation? I hope you know that the bold is a citation from a different book. It will take less effort if you have cited the scriptures to handle same issue, also it likewise honors the scriptures in our midst.

Whatever your stand Sir. You can't do it without giving scriptural evidence.

You can't argue a bible citation with external thought or personal opinion. It is when you explain with scriptures that is when you are seen as a believer, a bible student. Anyone can counter arguments, even the devil in countering arguments cited the scriptures because he knows the importance of that to God's followers.
Please do, since you said you know it. I personally will like to read your own view too on the concept.

Thanks.

My friend, you need not worry, I am not like others who would do or say anything to Win. I am Bound by the Word of God from the beginning to the end in all my affairs and dealings. So don't worry all my Answers would Always be based on the Laws Found in the Bible.

Since you demand the Biblical Proof of Where my Answers come from even though I showed you earlier, I will reduplicate them hereunder for your scrutiny.

My Lord God, when He came to spend some time with us on earth Taught us these things;
1) Mathew 5:15= Neither do men light a candle, and put it. under a bushel, but on a candlestick; and it. giveth light unto all that are in the house.

2) Mathew 7:9/10= ..., What man is there of you, whom if his son ask bread, will he give him a stone...

3) Luke 14:28= which of you, intending to build a tower, sitteth not down first, whether he have sufficient to finish it? And Jara!

4) Luke 15:8= what woman having 10 pieces of silver, if she lose one piece, doth not light a candle, and sweep the house, and seek diligently till she find it?

5) Luke 12:54/55= when ye see a cloud rise out of the west, straight-way ye say, There cometh a shower; and so it is.

What do all these scriptures have in common? The Answer is Law! What Law? Natural Law and The Law of Common Human Reasonable Conduct.

And Every soul and thing is ALWAYS under Natural Law and Acts Under it, as Taught to Me by Lord, Contained in the Bible as I have shown.

And No One is Above Natural Law! That is the Scriptural Proof, Authority and Backing of all my sayings.

Thank you.

solite3:
If you can pay for your sins why then did Christ die?

You are not paying for your sins, no one can. All we are to do is to SERIOUSLY and DEEPLY BEG for Forgiveness. For even Forgiveness itself, we do not even QUALIFY for it.

That is what the Bible is trying to get us to understand.

But because God is Good, there is Mercy. Mercy which CAN BE EXERCISED IN YOUR FAVOUR or May Not Be Exercised At All.

And this is the Law on Mercy Exodus 33:19 Restated again in Romans 9:15.

Mercy is ALWAYS at the DISCRETION OF HE WHO HATH POWER TO GIVE IT.

It is not taken by Right or by Force but It is Always Given at the Sole Pleasure of the Giver and ALWAYS at His Will, AT THAT RELEVANT MOMENT IN TIME.

Any other time before or after is immaterial for as Mercy is given so can it be Taken Away, At Any Time. Cases in Point, Adam, Eli and his sons, Saul, Solomon vs Jeroboam.

hoopernikao:
As follow up

Secondly, how on earth is it possible to counter such a laid out explanation with scriptures by the unstoppable51 without you mentioning a single scripture in the bible. You can't accuse a man without revealing where and how he was wrong via your scriptural explanation. Whether unstoppable is wrong is left to solid scriptural interpretation which you actually didn't offer.

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I feel, as bible study, which I assumed we are, our approach needs to be corrected. Theology and bible interpretation is not in quick post but detailed systematic and sound explanation of the scriptures standpoint. We must endeavor to always answer with scriptures when the issue of bible is raised. You can't defend what you can't even sacrifice your time to quote and explain.
This is the first point that truly reveals our trust in the scriptures as the only authority and God's mouth piece.

Hence, it will be proper, you answer him with a properly laid down scriptural evidence and explanation of your stand so that some of us also can fully understand you before approaching your theology.

The only way we can contend for the Faith is by the Faith itself. And that Faith is only revealed through the scriptures.

2 Timothy 15
And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.

It must be read, known, explained the same way.

I did not quote scriptures because it is the Law that "What is Self-Evident does not require evidence" and What is Proven does not require any Proof!

I know that every Scriptural Citation in Counter to his evil work is within the Personal Knowledge of every the Soul here.

hoopernikao:
As follow up

I have gone through the OP you referred to and I don't think the said Unstoppable51 deserved your call-out.

But my major concern is your approach to doctrinal and theological issues.

I observed that the Unstoppable51 OP even though it currently stands at 9 pages of around 500 comments you only had one single comment and that comment seek not to approach his OP. Infact you didn't give a single scripture or verse or defence but a call out. But just one contribution in all.

We are in evil times and there are many great Wickednesses going on around us every day. Yet my people still slumber and sleep and carry on as though they are unaffected and that all is well.

Meanwhile, I see them consuming Sweet Jollof Rice, Salads, Chicken and Beef not paying attention to those who have served them with these Delicious Looking Poison neither knowing nor caring to ensure that what they have been served is Truly Good and Healthy Meal and Not POISON!

Which one of you, leaveth his house and goeth into Any canteen without diligently looking at it, enters it and when served his meal, Does Not Look at the meal or the person-of-the-Person who serves the food, to see and determine by simple diligence, if the food is Truly Good or has Dead Cockroaches in it, or that the server is very dirty?

That is my Truest Approach and the Direction of my Thoughts which I Learned from Christ Himself.

As seen in Luke 17:7; Mathew 12:11; Luke 15:4

hoopernikao:
Good morning

I am finding it hard to see the contradiction you mentioned in the above. I think you may be the one not understanding what he is saying.

I haven't seen the post you referred but I will find and read his OP properly as not to hold a brief for him. But going by the above, I guess it's consistent with the scriptures.

Lastly, it is fair and good to always avoid being quick to labeling people false prophets, teachers or fake believers because we don't agree with their doctrine. It seems a common tread yet without presenting solid defence of scriptures.

Sometimes we are the ones who need to humble ourselves and see Jesus clearly in his word.

By spirit you and I know the spirit of what he is saying and we understood it.

And the spirit of what he is saying is not merely or simply wrong but more, it is Pure Evil meant to stir within the souls of men their evil foolish desire that They Should Not Be Diligent in the Pursuit of Eternal Life (as they apply diligence and seriousness to other things which do not give Life, which is what Genuine Christians are attempting to tell all men) But that they should merely and simple-ly believe (what in truth is believe and how can we satisfyingly proof that we believe? -i know many people do not Truly know what Believe really and practically means and have never Truly Deeply Enquired Into what it really is. Rather they repeat what they have been told simply because in appearance it made sense, but they never truly Knew what it meant) so I continue-

They are Simple-ly to believe that because they believe (that they do not Truly know) that Christ has Come and died for them, then they are All -Right and All-Righteous. They have done no Wrong and they shall do no Wrong. They are Free to do whatever they like for they shall not be accountable and shall never be accountable because they believe in Christ.

This is a description of the spirit, purport and effect of all he has said.

Is this the Doctrine and Teachings of Christ? No, I say. It is a Big Fat Lie.

A lie we were Already Fore-Warned and Pre-warned that it Must Come and Through Whom it Must Come.

On Contradiction!
Is it not contradictory to say "I am up, I am down? or does it not cause confusion to say stop, go?

So it is where he says "You are not going to be judged at one time and he said you are going to be judged" at another.

It is Written "I would that you were cold or hot"-Revelation 3:15

What kind of double speak is this ?

He said- You are not going there to be judged by your works but rather your faith in Christ.

Then he said-The only time you will ever be judged for your works as a believer is at the Judgement Seat of Christ. This is after you have gone to heaven.

That is where you will receive the reward for the good works you have done here on earth. If you have no good works on your account then, you will certainly have no reward from Him

What powerful Contradiction this is, "You are not going to be judged, you are going to be judged"

When the Bible was very Clear on All of these issues and perfectly laid them to Rest.

Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. Ye shall know them by their fruits. Matthew 7:15 and 16

He said-Yes the judgement day is coming but Jesus got you covered as a believer. Unlike what is popularly believed out there, your sins are not going to be displayed for the whole world to see and judge your level of performance. You are not going there to be judged by your works but rather your faith in Christ.

The only time you will ever be judged for your works as a believer is at the Judgement Seat of Christ. This is after you have gone to heaven.

That is where you will receive the reward for the good works you have done here on earth. If you have no good works on your account then, you will certainly have no reward from Him. Though you will still be in heaven. That is because heaven is not a reward for our good we have done. It is a gift we receive by faith in Christ.

Left for us, there is no amount of good works we can do that will be enough for us to enter there.

So, the last day or the day of Judgement, is the day in which God will judge the whole world. And on that day, only one thing will matter - Faith in Christ.

Have you believed in Jesus as your Saviour from sin and condemnation or are you still struggling very hard on your own to please God?
Do not forget that I said on that day ONLY ONE THING will matter. Not your religion, church or good works. Only faith in Christ. That is what will determine the outcome of your judgement.
That is the truth about the Judgement Day. That is what the Bible truly teaches!

While it is CLEARLY written

"For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works." Matthew 16:27

... And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works." Revelation 20:13

While he said this shit- some have even been told that on that day, God will display all the sins you have ever committed on a big TV Screen for the whole world to watch. Imagine such foolishness. How can the same God that said in 2 Corinthians 5:19, Hebrews 8:12 and Hebrews 10:17, that He doesn’t record your sins and will never remember them against you, go back on His Word?


Christ said this

"But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment" Matthew 12:36

My query on his Wicked Thread:

No one here can tell that this guy is lying to you all?

And you all ate this crap with the plate and spoon?

Did he not say that if you had Christ in you, you would be "Confident" and "Bold" in approaching Him, Are you in All Truth Confident and Bold such that if The Lord should come Right Now, you would still not fear?

If others Decieve You Shall you Decieve You?

Do you all not know Boldness and Confidence? Which of you here can not Boldly and Confidently approach a Primary One Exam to write it, Today?

Shall you have that same Confidence and Boldness to write the Medical And Dental Qualifying Exams, ICAN or Law School Final Bar Exams, or Job Aptitude Tests, Today?

Just as you Prepare Adequately for all these things that shall not give you Life, shall you not Prepare Adequately for the Life-Giving Exam?

I was shocked to my soul to that No One Told unstoppable51 that he is lying and a liar! And neither did could anyone there, tell that he is lying.

Or is that how much they hate themselves and their soul?

Wow! Is there any one who made the Fear that is in them? If you created it then you must have power to Remove it from you, like your clothes

But you don't. Therefore it Comes and you can not Remove it.

Do you think that Fear is for Nothing?

Do you not know that, that Fear is sent for thy Good? And meant to lead you away from thy destruction if you listen to it?

Did the Fear not come when you went near Fire or Transformer? Or did it not come when you almost entered a busy road or nearly fall into that dangerous pit that you did not know was there?

Did the Fear not keep you from dangerous animals which came near you?

Anyone who tells you to not fear Judgement Day if you fear it is SEEKING YOUR DESTRUCTION as a man who Tells you that a Transformer is just an "iron Box" or that "you can cross na, no car is coming or "na day small dog na im dey make you fear".

He is has found your soul unfounded and therefore he pounces on you as a Lion to your death!

And this is just the first part!

Oh How great and clear the Lies he proclaimed even Direct Contradiction to the very Clear Words of Christ.

Ah! What Great Wickedness Awaits the world from people like unstoppable51.

No one here can tell that this guy is lying to you all?

And you all ate this crap with the plate and spoon?

Did he not say that if you had Christ in you, you would be "Confident" and "Bold" in approaching Him, Are you in All Truth Confident and Bold such that if The Lord should come Right Now, you would still not fear?

If others Decieve You Shall you Decieve You?

Do you all not know Boldness and Confidence? Which of you here can not Boldly and Confidently approach a Primary One Exam to write it, Today?

Shall you have that same Confidence and Boldness to write the Medical And Dental Qualifying Exams, ICAN or Law School Final Bar Exams, or Job Aptitude Tests, Today?

Just as you Prepare Adequately for all these things that shall not give you Life, shall you not Prepare Adequately for the Life-Giving Exam?

Perfectbeing:
OK.. If you say so

I Do, Say, So.

solite3:
God's word taught us that our so called good works or deeds are filthy before him.

God did not command any sacrifices for sin.
It is God that provided the sacrifices for sin not us.

Why do you continue to speak from ignorance?

Did God not tell us and show us what good things we can do? Honour and Respect your Maker, love thy neighbour, care for the poor etc

What sacrifice do you think Noah made when he and his family came out of the Ark? Or Did Israel's House not CLEANSE themselves first before they met the Lord God on the Mountain? What do you think the Sin-Full Woman in Luke 7:37/38 was doing when she cried at the Lord's Feet?

Pure Irrebukable Understanding is Given by the Lord, Himself no man can attain unto it. Proverbs 2:1-9; 3:13, James 1:5.

Perfectbeing:
If Jesus had come against the woman caught in adultery, Zachius, Matthew the tax collector and the rest of the sinners (including you yourself), would they (and you) have been saved?? If you can't preach love to him then you ignore him. Love covers a multitude of sin...

Smh! You do not know many things which ye ought to know and I am tired today. Did Christ not speak harshly, sharply and Rebuke the Pharisees, Sadducees and Scribes?

I intend to fully abide with the Teachings in Mathew 10:32/33: Titus 1:9-11, Ephesians 5:1-11 particularly verse 11 among other scriptures!

And do you see that you do not speak well in saying that I stand aside and ignore wicked men who speak lies and vile sayings which in times past have brought the unfounded and the simple in the knowledge of God, to destruction and damnation?

Do you not know that by speaking up against evil that there is a possibility that those who should be entrapped by it may now not be caught up by its wicked enticement, for the saving their souls according to the will of God that man should live and not suffer eternal damnation?

Again I say that there are many things which ye ought to know but ye know not.

Perfectbeing:
The bible verse you just quoted doesn't mean God judges us by our thoughts.. Jesus quoted that passage to show the Pharisees that it is impossible to please God by following the 10 commandments since it is impossible to actually follow it. He was letting them know that even when they think they haven't committed adultery they have when the look at another woman lustfully.. When they think they haven't killed, they have when the hate somebody, when they think they haven't steal, the have when they envy their neighbors.. And in James 2:10, whoever shall keep the whole law, and yet stumble in one point, he is guilty of all. That was the point Jesus was making

He is not wrong to present this verse because he was simply showing by Law that the Proof and Conviction (or Blessings) of the Lord on man and for man, Commences and Starts from the Heart and soul and the very Thinkings and Thoughts of man.

Hence the creation and appreciation of this thread.

Perfectbeing:
Do you intend to win an erring sinner to Christ with what you're typing?

No I do not, I am doing something else. Oh ye men, if only you would let the Lord open your eyes, this is not an "erring" sinner but the very Evil lurking after your soul for damnation.

This is a soul will fullly set towards doing evil and teaching others to so do.

For it is the Law that by their fruits, they Must Be Known for an evil tree Must bear evil fruits, hence I stand against all doers and workers of All iniquity, Sin and Evil.

I shall Always Come Against them.

solite3:
In Repentance you come to see yourself the way God see you.

David said 'In sin did my mother conceive me' Paul said for all have sinned and fall short of his glory also there is no one who does good.
Jesus said 'call no man good'

Isaiah said for all our righteousness are filthy rags before him.

Repentance that leads to salvation is not simply sorrow for sin neither a vow not to commit sin or showing penance either by restitution or otherwise but to see yourself the way God sees you and seeing God the way he his. God is a holy and a just God who will never dwell with sin and more also he is loving, faithful and unchangeable who lovingly made a provision for our sin in Christ Jesus.
The Gospel states that Christ died for our sins the just for the unjust that we should live through him.

Aha! Why are you spoiling the Truth you once clearly stated by now changing and cancelling your earlier position?

Shall Repentance stop being Repentance because God is Who He is? Is it not the He who Commanded and taught us how to perform a valid and acceptable Return back to His Mercy and Goodness through sacrifices of sin and a penitent heart?

Men this is not Good

Thanks to Perfectbeing I have once more gone to read Luke 7:36-48 and saw another example that The Lord Surely Knows and Hears All our Thoughts.

Verse 39- "Now when the Pharisee which had bidden him saw it, he spake within himself, saying, This man, if he were a Prophet, would have known who and what manner of woman this is that toucheth him:"

"And Jesus Answering said,.... Verse 40-48.

Perfectbeing:
The only word he spoke to Jesus was "Lord, remember me thou comest into thy kingdom" meaning he believed and was saved.

Though he spoke to his former partner in crime many of these words, he was also speaking and appealing to Christ in and by his soul. That is what you do not see.

It was after all these were concluded that he turned to Christ say the words he said because he knew he had now settled his affairs Rightly and Properly in Accordance with the Commandments.

Perfectbeing:
Did the thief at the right hand on the cross "eat His flesh and drink His blood" before he got saved?? Since you want to take "eating His flesh and drinking His blood" literally.. Believing in Jesus Christ is the same as eating His flesh and drinking His blood. When you believe in Jesus you are saved forever... John 3:16 is the most quoted book in the bible and yet it's the least understood.

Oh Yes, Yes and Yes Again. That Thief was the wisest person on earth that Day.

For he Knew Who Jesus was, Understood Enough to give A True Judgement or Opinion not like the other foolish thief who Thought that Christ was evil like him and that Christ should use his power to help them all escape and return to doing their evil businesses.

The Thief did not just Proclaim Christ's Innocence conversely he Proclaimed that Christ had Done no Wrong but Only Good and he rather Rebuked Himself and his criminal partner (Confession and Acknowledgment of Doing Wrongs- Repentance) for doing wrong.

Then he pleaded and begged for Forgiveness while asking for Mercy and For Life, Knowing and Understanding that He Was Not Entitled To Have any of these things he requested.

What more can the man do on the cross that Day which he had not done?

In that moment as far as possible he obeyed every Law of God for he kept the First Commandment, Did Not give False Witness, Truly Regretted the Doing of all his offences before the Lord Himself, and Confessed them to the Lord and then He sought the Face of the Lord for Mercy, Pardon and Forgiveness (as he could do in spirit on the cross) in Compliance With The Commandments.

He Fully Filled the Law by attempting to keep all of them just as it is written that if you break one of the Law, you break All of Them.

IamMichael:

Wow!!! I didn't know they transferred evil from father to children and vice versa like files on Xender.
We learn everyday anyway!

Yes, Evil is a virus and a Hereditary Disease like Sickle cell, Aids and all the other hereditary diseases you know. Hence the need to Strongly contain and curtail it like your Corona Virus by Strongly and Violently prevent its Doings, Effects its Everything.

But you have all failed to stop it so now Evil Has Houses in Many Countries and Nations and Many Souls Just-Like-You!

bigname23:
Bros u get time to answer dis people..how many christains do u still se answering dis guys..na person wey never know dem dey follow dem dey argue..normal person just wake up in d morning go root out old Mosaic law wey christains nor dey use ...just to look for argument..ask am if he don ever go one church one day wey pastor preach dis nonsense...

My bros, you dey correct oh, and I for jus Waka pass but I know wetin dis people dey do. All dis dier Rubbish Yarn no be jus rubbish yarn alone oh.

Dem dey use am take disturb people wey dey Try to Follow Christ plus those people wey no get Problem With Christ, make dem Begin to dey Fight and Quarrel with Christ.

Bros see oh, all of dem be former Christians or ex-Christian and Na so dem take fall Na, wey Satan kon use take grow well well for inside dem.

And U know, dier own bad pass pass in 2 ways 1) as dem don fall, dem no fit come back again especially as we dey shame dem dey go and
2) dem truly dey dangerous as na dier plan to dey Waka about like Satan to dey make those who no know and understand God well well (like dem former self) make dem fall like themselves.

So I dey answer dem make E for help anybody wey go dey later think dis rubbish make dem understand say na Very Stupid Wicked Rubbish wey dey always dey comot from dis people mouth.

NB-MODIFIED
The Commandments of God (popularly called Mosaic Laws) Operate even Today and are Supposed to be in Operation, For they have never been Repealed by God any where in the Bible, hence Christ's Message in His First Teaching in Mathew 5:17.

The Commandments in Exodus, Leviticus and Deuteronomy ought to be obeyed by all to the very best of their natural ability.

annyplenty:
I mean a pure moralists who refrains from all the SINS normally preached against by most religions but whose instincts are based purely on morals and not due to religious beliefs.

The question is who shall measure your Morals?

For Surely it is A Nullity for you to set your own exam, write it and then grade it for yourself! Surely your result shall not be recognised.

An exam is set by someone else other than you and after you write it, it shall be graded by someone other than you, mostly the same person who set the exam in the first place.

No human set Morality, therefore no human can grade or determine or mark the answers on Morality!

solite3:
What is repentance and how does it relate to salvation?

Acts 11:18; 2 Peter 3:9

The meaning of the word repentance has been twisted in recent years to the point that its biblical meaning is now obscured in the minds of many. The idea that genuine repentance could result in anything but a change of life is completely foreign to Scripture.

What does the Bible teach about the relationship between salvation and repentance? First, it teaches that repentance is essential to salvation. One cannot truly believe unless he repents, and one cannot truly repent unless he believes. Repentance and faith are two sides of the same coin (but they are not synonymous terms). Acts 11:18 and 2 Peter 3:9 are two of the many verses that teach that repentance is necessary for salvation. Perhaps 2 Timothy 2:25 best sums up the relationship between repentance and saving faith when it speaks of "repentance to the acknowledging of the truth" (see also Acts 20:21).

Second, the Greek word for repentance (metanoia) means "to have another mind," but it cannot properly be defined to exclude a sense of hatred of and penitence for sin. The biblical concept of repentance involves far more than merely a casual change of thinking. Biblically, a person who repents does not continue willfully in sin. Repentance is a turning from sin, and it always results in changed behavior (Luke 3:8 ). While sorrow from sin is not equivalent to repentance, it is certainly an element of scriptural repentance (2 Corinthians 7:10).

Finally, despite what is being widely taught today, affirming that repentance and acknowledgement of Jesus' lordship are necessary to salvation does not "add" anything to the requirement of faith for salvation. It is not "faith plus repentance" that saves, but rather a repentant faith. The notion that salvation is possible apart from a genuine, heartfelt repentance, which includes a deep hatred of sin, is a relatively new one, neither believed nor taught by the people of God until the twentieth century

Yes! And this Teaching is One Of The Several Lies and Deceits Taught by False Prophets in the disguise of Churches.

IamMichael:

But, the passage never mentioned they committed a crime.

Even amongst my people here in the past before the coming of the British, once you commit a crime, there are remedial means from mild to severe. Why would a god advocate for stoning of children simply because they eat a lot and drink too much?

See why knowledge and understanding is very necessary?

You do not understand that at that time the Adults understood and agreed to the Abolition of All evil in their families and where Cleansed From it.Therefore, it is" their children" who shall now be doing wrongs and evil, for Evil now would have to move from them to their children. And if not "those children" then the children of the children and so on

Hence the Law!

Seek knowledge and understanding, it would prevent you from asking stupid questions which "appear" sound and reasonable and good to your foolish heart.

IamMichael:


Remember that being stubborn, rebellious, a glutton (someone who eats a lot) and drunk( someone who drinks a lot) does not equate to commission of crime.
Rebelling against your parents is not a crime, since there are a lot of things you can disagree with your parents. Being stubborn is not a crime, being a glutton and a drunk is not a crime.

Nowhere in the sentence did it say that the children committed a crime. So in other words, your god is commanding you his follower to commit murder and kill your innocent children, and you have solely accepted that you will do it for him. Shame on you murderous innocent children killer, and shame on your psychopathic bloodthirsty god!!!

Also shame on all of you who accepts they will do it above, BIG SHAME!!!

See, you do not even know what a crime is, yet you proudly show your vast emptiness and speak from there.

Idiot! Have you not seen that SHAME ONLY FALLS ON DOERS OF EVIL LIKE YOU?

Because You LIVE IN SHAME and You are Always being Shamed, You THINK EVERYONE IS LIKE YOU. NO, I AM NOT LIKE YOU AND SHAME DOES NOT KNOW MY HOUSE OR MY NAME. I Do No Evil.

IT IS THE LAW That SHAME, DISGRACE AND DESTRUCTION SHALL BE AND SHALL ALWAYS BE ON ALL LOVERS AND DOERS OF EVIL, FOREVER!

IamMichael:

Nah, the god dishing out the rule just didn't have the intellectual capacity to know that reformation centres (correctional facilities) can be utilized for the said folks.

Remember that being stubborn, rebellious, a glutton (someone who eats a lot) and drunk( someone who drinks a lot) does not equate to commission of crime.
Rebelling against your parents is not a crime, since there are a lot of things you can disagree with your parents. Being stubborn is not a crime, being a glutton and a drunk is not a crime.

Nowhere in the sentence did it say that the children committed a crime. So in other words, your god is commanding you his follower to commit murder and kill your innocent children, and you have solely accepted that you will do it for him. Shame on you murderous innocent children killer, and shame on your psychopathic bloodthirsty god!!!
Also shame on all of you who accepts they will do it above, BIG SHAME!!!

See how you exhibit your foolishness and lack of knowledge?

You obviously don't know that correctional facilities and all those shit systems are FRAUDS, DECEIVING PEOPLE LIKE YOU that they are dealing with criminals in the land when in fact they are Stealing from you all and training them to come rob and harm you accordingly to their devices.

Who do you think are the owners of Banks, Insurance, Police, Prisons etc?

Your beloved Evil twinses like yourself who are there to do evil to you and all your yous.They don't touch us.

So You See, You Know Nothing!

Perfectbeing:
The moment you become saved is the moment he becomes your advocate. You don't need to request of him to be your advocate.

You are wrong. And that is one of the Lies Taught by False Prophets to the decieving of your souls.

Christ Clearly Said unless you eat my flesh and drink my blood, YOU SHALL HAVE NO LIFE John 6:53.

"If ye keep My COMMANDMENTS, ye Shall Abide In My Love". John 15:10.

Christ COMMANDED That "if Thou Wilt ENTER Into Life, KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS" Mathew 19:17.

Perfectbeing:
Just like we didn't request for him to die for us before he did, so also, we never requested for him to be our advocate before he is...

I Request for Him to be my Advocate, Counsel and Lawyer. That's what He meant by "Unless you eat my flesh and drink my blood".

You must seek Him, Request for Him and Take Him ONLY if you want. It is not by compulsion.

The Good that He Did was and is, is to make His Most High Self Available for Any Soul who Truly wants Him but it is not by force.