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budaatum:
Must be difficult for you to admit that you lack comprehension.

I'll pray to God on your behalf.

Yes you must have the last words, go on say your piece, I won't stop you.

Zodiac61:
For someone who claims to speak the truth, you appear singularly uninterested in the truth.
Believing in fairy tales is not seeking the truth.
As for sacrifice, knowing that I am going to come back to life after death is not really a sacrifice, is it?
And frankly, accepting the deluded superstitious rantings of bronze and iron age people in the middle East as the truth is not only ridiculous, it is down right dangerous.

So therefore, knowing that you were going to go to work and come back, means you have not gone to work?

budaatum:
You see my fruits?

One thing Jesus did was heal numerous people of their inability to use their senses. He "spat on the ground, and made clay of the spittle, and he anointed the eyes of the blind with the clay, and sent them to wash in the pool of Siloam so they may wash and be able to use their senses" instead of creating unseen crap inside their own heads and lying that they sense it.

I'm so sorry, but I assumed you were a truth seeker, but it seems you are just another one of those people who create crap inside their own heads and believe it. May Christ spit on mud and make clay and rub it in your eyes so they may open and you learn to use your Jesus healed senses.

And finally you've gone off the track and into pôtôpôtô. And the fruits (Ridicule, Mock, Slander of God- the Delightful Specialty of Your Depraved Evilness) i spoke of, has begun, As it was written!

budaatum:
And Paul told you to call anyone who does not believe as you do, satan?

I guess you must have adopted the Pharisee in Paul then. Here them accuse Christ of demon possession just like you accuse me for thinking independently like Jesus too did which is why they killed him before lying to you that he died for your sins.

Paul and the Disciples learnt to know Satan and having known him, we easily See him, for Everyone who is Purely Evil, is Satan.

By his fruits (work, talk, views), we shall not only know you but See you.

budaatum:
I guess you killed Christ for nothing then, since nothing much changed after you killed him.

If only you hadn't killed him and learnt from him instead. The world would have certainly become a better place.

Try it. Try letting good abound in your heart towards God's creation instead of assuming I am the devil and see how much better the world would be.

Yes, I did and I am Very Very Sorry I Did, so now like Paul, I work for Him and I learn from Him (as you said) and now I speak all the things that I have learnt from Him.

KingAzubuike:
We've all heard about the trending case of a girl in benin raped and butchered in a church. Where was God when all those bullshìt happened right in his house? . Was he happy with the scenerio, enjoying the view an probably even masturbating to it? I'm so confused.

First of all it is not His Church for he does not have any need of one.

Secondly, you and your Wicked brothers have been killing His Servants, Employees, Prophets and Finally, His Son.

What do you think shall happen and what do is happening even right now?

Remember the Parable of the Vineyard, Luke 20:9-16.

God Has Arose and it is Time For His Enemies to be Scattered.The Prophecies in Mathew Luke and Revelations, have Begun!

budaatum:
You have shown me nothing at all Dtruth. All you have done is repeat what you've been told to believe instead of using your own brain to reason.

If you did use your own brain, you'd wonder what benefit killing Christ has done to the world that has only increased in its evil doing since Christ was killed. And if you were honest with yourself you'd admit that all that stuff about him dying for your sins is a rather pointless belief if you continued sinning.

There isn't any question here. But if you are raising the issue of why sin abounds in the world, then I know you know the answer, which is basically because people are like you, which is you hate doing the good and right Things while you love pleasing yourself, without care or bother who or whom is Hurt.

And your Yous have become too many.

If Good abounded, there would be No Offences which would require No Remedy.

Zodiac61:
You guys keep on talking about a sacrifice.
If what you believe is true, than what happened to jesus was anything but a sacrifice. Your beliefs claimed that he rose from the dead three days after and that was part of the plan.
So what exactly was the sacrifice, being dead for three days?
In the scheme of things, not a sacrifice at all.

It would not have made any difference to you if He had died and He Resurrected Immediately.

budaatum:
Pity they "sacrificed him" instead of learning from him, though in reality they murdered an innocent man and convinced themselves God wanted him to be sacrificed!

I'm sure no one would accept that the killing of their school teacher is a suitable sacrifice for whatever reason, but I guess we must just believe what we are told instead of reasoning with the brain that God must have put in our heads!

I know you must see only that which is evil even after I have shown that it was the Good Plan of the Most High, for the Good purpose that mankind should not Die because of their serious offences done to Him and done Against Him, Which is shown in the Parable of the Vineyard!

Well it is only for those who know that they have sinned and are Truly sorry for offending the Innocent Most High, Who has done Only Good to Man but Man instead of being thankful rather repaid Him with Wickedness and Rebellion.

The first thing you must know is that The Man we know to be Jesus Christ is not just a man called Jesus Christ, but He is the Great and Mighty King Who is in Charge (Rules) of this world called earth and His High-ness is Soo Great that He is a God Over us.

Proof: it is Christs Father, the Most High Himself Who issues Commands "let there be light; let us make man etc. Genesis 1:3

Christ is the One (The Spoken Word) who carries out the Commands. John 1:1-4 And He Himself issues out more commands in line with the Instructions Given Him by the Most High Genesis 2:16.

The Lord God in Genesis 2:4 is the very same Man Whom people just carelessly Call Jesus Christ. Proof: Mathew 28:18; John 3:13; John 6:38/39: and verses 44, 46, 57. Mathew 13:41

For After Genesis 1, God Spoke less and the Lord who is God over man and all the earth Spoke More. And after the introduction of These Mighty Beings, the Lord God (Jesus Christ) because we now knew at this time that He was God Over us then changed to The Lord, and Remained Unchanged!

That is why from Genesis 12, The Lord (Jesus Christ) Did about 98% of the Speaking and
the Acting to and on Man.

Hence the parable of the vineyard Luke 20:9-16.

It was Christ, Who is God over this world, Who Sent Prophets, Under the Instruction of the Most High, His Father, in accordance with the Parable of the Vineyard, yet man did not listen.

On Forgiveness and Repentance from Sins and the Proper Cleansing thereof, God Commanded an Atonement or action for making amends for wrongs to be in the form of a sacrifice of An Unblemished Lamb, Goat, Bull etc for the Diverse Sins and Collective Sins.Leviticus 3,4,5,6,7.

But by the Parable of the vineyard, The Most High Instructed, Our Lord and God, to Singularise All Those Diverse Sin Offerings (For Those Who Want It) in Leviticus, to be A Mighty, Unblemished Lamb for All the World as our Sin Sacrifice of Apology to the Most High for All our sins and Wickedness, in line with the Commandment in Leviticus.

So instead of doing many many sacrifices for all our different sins, The Most High, Himself, Gave us a Gift of The Mightiest And The Most Powerful Sacrifice, for the Forgiveness of All our Variety of Various Sins, for those who want their sins Forgiven.

And that's why we Plead the Cover and the Mercy of out Lord God Who is the same Jesus, the Christ, Who Died for us, that we may Live, and Never Die!

Offpoint:
If he knew, then was his death truly a sacrifice?

Wouldn't anyone whom is asked to destroy his bicycle and promised to be given a latest model car gladly destroy his bicycle?

I need seek answers from highly spirited Christians.

I've been trying to wrapped my head around this for long.
Saying he wasn't aware will defeat the purpose of TRINITY

Righteousness89 you're needed here.

The first thing you must know is that The Man we know to be Jesus Christ is not just a man called Jesus Christ, but He is the Great and Mighty King Who is in Charge (Rules) of this world called earth and His High-ness is Soo Great that He is a God Over us.

Proof: it is Christs Father, the Most High Himself Who issues Commands "let there be light; let us make man etc. Genesis 1:3

Christ is the One (The Spoken Word) who carries out the Commands. John 1:1-4 And He Himself issues out more commands in line with the Instructions Given Him by the Most High Genesis 2:16.

The Lord God in Genesis 2:4 is the very same Man Whom people just carelessly Call Jesus Christ. Proof: Mathew 28:18; John 3:13; John 6:38/39: and verses 44, 46, 57. Mathew 13:41

For After Genesis 1, God Spoke less and the Lord who is God over man and all the earth Spoke More. And after the introduction of These Mighty Beings, the Lord God (Jesus Christ) because we now knew at this time that He was God Over us then changed to The Lord, and Remained Unchanged!

That is why from Genesis 12, The Lord (Jesus Christ) Did about 98% of the Speaking and
the Acting to and on Man.

Hence the parable of the vineyard Luke 20:9-16.

It was Christ, Who is God over this world, Who Sent Prophets, Under the Instruction of the Most High, His Father, in accordance with the Parable of the Vineyard, yet man did not listen.

On Forgiveness and Repentance from Sins and the Proper Cleansing thereof, God Commanded an Atonement or action for making amends for wrongs to be in the form of a sacrifice of An Unblemished Lamb, Goat, Bull etc for the Diverse Sins and Collective Sins.Leviticus 3,4,5,6,7.

But by the Parable of the vineyard, The Most High Instructed, Our Lord and God, to Singularise All Those Diverse Sin Offerings (For Those Who Want It) in Leviticus, to be A Mighty, Unblemished Lamb for All the World as our Sin Sacrifice of Apology to the Most High for All our sins and Wickedness, in line with the Commandment in Leviticus.

So instead of doing many many sacrifices for all our different sins, The Most High, Himself, Gave us a Gift of The Mightiest And The Most Powerful Sacrifice, for the Forgiveness of All our Variety of Various Sins, for those who want their sins Forgiven.

And that's why we Plead the Cover and the Mercy of out Lord God Who is the same Jesus, the Christ, Who Died for us, that we may Live, and Never Die!

Kai! My guy don already lose this case before E start because of that letter, bad drafting.

Mariangeles:
Why?

Although, I think she meant wife of her brother in-law

Didn't see this side. Thanks

seunsidechick:
As in her husband brother's wife

Oh ! Another person's wife.
Thanks

adoreyou:
Could the present punishment for rapists according to our law be enough to deter others. What do you think should be the ideal punishment for a rapist by your standard?As for me nothing can give assurance of eradicating rapists aside life imprisonment.

Forceful and Violent Rape- Forceful Castration and Damages (compensation).

All others should be carefully examined to find out all their Wrongs and then the Compensatory Punishments Applied, that is Damages and Imprisonment where ever the Just is, Shall Be!

Modified!
Prison is a Scam! Wrong-Doers should be Hotly Dealt with by the Community who suffered the wrong, after the Just is has been settled.

Just observed that the Bible Never Recommended Prison for any Criminal. It only issued out the highest Judgements on the Case.

You get what you give, with increase or interest!

Amya:
Family issues like this is really dicey. How csn i tell him his sister is trying to scam us? I did the best i could do in such situation by shutting the whole thing down. I heard she actually collected some money from my co wife for same job and when it amounted to nothing, she blamed the recruitment process. Las las, she's family, you can't beat her or arrest her

Your first problem I see is that you don't really have your husband's ear. Does he not trust your judgement? You have this block with your husband because of judgement issues.

Resolve this and all other issues would follow.

Modified: Co-wife? Of course he would not trust you.

How I Rose up to be Who I am now, in spite of the fact that My mother (single mom) sat on me, defamed me to my neighbours, immediate and extended family, her friends who could have helped me make something of my life, anyone who cared to listen, from my childhood to beyond my youth.

She Destroyed me Completely and Totally, But, God, Who Saw All, Burst me Through it All! Now, I'm an Amazement! And all who heard all her lies are in Great Awe, even as recently as Last Week, I got connected to a cousin whom I have not seen in almost 30 years and she almost collapsed from being in Shock, when she saw my pictures and my family!

She's still in shock, even now as she has not yet spoken to me after our reconnection.

I understand how she feels because, I too still can't believe it, when I recall all that went on around me

God is Mighty when He Doth Arise. That's my Supernatural Story!

Maximus69:
Soul dies Ezekiel 18:4!

It's you that's denying God's word because of your hellfire fallacy!

A thing will not become true simply because you wish it to be. And a matter is not established by many repetitions!

frank317:
How does this stop him from understanding the pain of the little girl that was Murdered and the pain her parents would go through and understand that his actions at that moment will make things better for the parties involved?

OH sorry, he already knows and is enjoying the show.

The Day Cometh when He Shall Call Every Child and Speak to Them and Give to each of them, Their Own Reward!

Xmuslim:
Weldone the barrister

Thank you.

frank317:
That's how stupid ur God was when he dropped the tree of knowledge in garden for Adam and eve knowing that they will definitely go eat it and mess his world up.


The real question is, is God perfectly OK with the trun out of freewill that he already knows will not turn out well?



U are the one who believes that ur all knowing God knew that outcome of our freewill but created us to use it and mess up anyways. U are the one who should learn to take responsibility of ur actions instead of believing being knows all actions u take with ur freewill.
If my landlord knows I will not pay my rent he will not give me the house. But if he knows I will not pay and still give me the house, then he is to blame for my actions because he should have avoided the mess in the first place. My actions will happen because he knows it will happen.
I don't believe in any nonsense confusing being and know my actions are totally my responsibility.. I and just worried for u.



Drink u own bitter pills and use ur brain. U cannot be a married bachelor.. U cannot believe that ur creator knew about u and ur actions even before u were born and still believe that u are responsible of ur actions... U are just trying to play safe for nothing and look at were it has brought u.

You have already been employed to do your work, it's best you run along and do your work before your Oga comes and meet you grumbling and idle-ling!

Unless of course you want to see what Oga shall do to You.

All the wahala wey dey happen for office (world), na Oga na I'm dey handle am, na Oga, go handle am. Una own na to only report as you don do.

But with all these your grumblings, no worry, you dey even hurry Oga make Him Come Quick make Him for Deal with all these issues wey una don Report.

I hope say, you know say, dem don Report you too? The pikin wey report you too, dey cry make Him for Put Mouth for the matter as you dey cry for your own.

I say, don't Worry, He is Coming to Settle All Issues.

frank317:
So u are saying God sees the murder and rape of an innocent girl, the heart break of her friends and family and all the sadness that surrounds this event just the way we as parents see our kids fight over their toys?

Are u and ur God kidding me?

If ur little girl gets raped will u sit down and say God will take care of it in his time?

What a pathetic and lame excuse for a supposedly almighty loving God. U guys are funny.

Is this what u pride ur self as 'u have answered me?'

I am sorry but u are not psychologically balanced.

My answer will not change. We are all children fighting over land, who took my thing, why did you beat me, why did you this me, why did you that me, quarrelling and fighting and Destroying our Father's Property.

It is All the same thing. He is Father (Up There), we are babies (Down here).

Xmuslim:
This theory is old sir.

God knows the severity of killing. He's not a robot that has no feelings.

Why did he condemn killing if he think it is small thing.

STOP DEFENDING GOD. LET HIM COME OUT AND DEFEND HIMSELF.

You guys are funny. You compare God to us when you think it align to your response ONLY.

Next time, don't tell me God must not be compared to human. His way is not our way.. Bla.. Bla.. Bla

I am God's Lawyer! And I am here for that Purpose!

You can't even answer me, your fellow man, is it now in His Presence, you shall be able to raise your head?

But don't worry He has Already Promised That One Day, He Would call all of you together, to Answer You! (Like you are all waiting for your Buhari to "speech", today)

Daejoyoung:
Is God merely predicting how we use our freewill, or he already knew how we would use it even before he created anything?

We were created Perfect to do Good Things Only and generally being incapable of doing wrongs not to talk of even doing evil.

And we were doing it Until Adam Completely Destroyed that our incapacity to do wrongs, by letting Satan (who is whole Evil) enter into our soul, who was outside of us like that our wicked neighbour.

But now, that our wicked neighbour lives in our good house and we are unable to throw him out, like that our wicked Relation who lives with us in our house, but we no fit troway am comot. And Father is watching us how we shall deal with him, After All, He Warned Us, Not To Let Him Enter Our House, and we understood and agreed with Him.

But, Finally, One Day, because E Don dey disturb you too much, U Kon forget wetin your Papa talk and you Kon let am enter house.

Now, you no fit troway am comot, so therefore, you na must to wait for Papa, wen E get una time, to troway d bastard comot.

But till den, d struggle Continues!

frank317:
U didn't come close to answering my question.

If I KNOW that giving my child a gun will make him use his freewill to shoot his sister and himself, I will never give him the gun.

Ur God knows freewill will bring a mess to man and the world he still went ahead to give it... He could have done better... Except u are saying the only choice he had was to give man freewill or create man as robot.

First of all you are a fool for giving your children a gun for you know and ought to know that your child must use it.

Secondly, you have been using your freewill jejely and correctly like your child driving your car. E Don dey drive well since, dat na why you dey let am drive d motor. The day E con jam, U no go ask am wetin happen?

So it is with our Father, Most High unto Us.

Learn to take Responsibility for all your acts. Once you have power to act, you are already immediately liable for it, just like renting a house and you no wan pay rent, U wan Kon dey blame landlord for giving you house, rather than pay your rent.

My friend, man shall always be responsible for his actions and Inactions and Must Explain Himself To His High Ogas!

MuttleyLaff:
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I trust you really weren't addressing this response to me sha but actually was directed at daejoyoung

Whoever you had in mind, still have this chilled bottle of orijin plus a truckload of kolanuts and after, sharp sharp, be next governor of your state of origin.

Right on point on all accounts. Wehdone Sir! Please drink responsibly though.

. Sluurp, Aah! Thanks for the Drink

frank317:
A young probably innocent girl has been raped and killed... What else can make God's anger say enough is enough.

I am a father, I cannot watch my neighbour's dog bite my child and still be waiting for when enough is enough.. Guy please.

that's why you don't get it!

Children fighting over toys, books, biscuits Shall Always Amuse Parents (the father).

To the children it is Always A Very Very Serious Matter but to the father it is Always A Very Small Thing

We, and the murdered lady are all children before the Most High, to us it Must Always be a Serious Issue but for Him, it is still one of the many issues He handles, for He is very very Aware of all that is going on as a Father and He will Deal with them all, When HE wishes to deal with them, just as You also handled your children's biscuit, book and exam events, in the Day and Time that You were Ready To Deal With Them Allll!

So fret not, even the hair that fell down from your bear-bear and head (you yourself no even know) and the rats and cockroaches and chickens You don kill, HE SAW, HE KNOWS!

HE Will Deal With Them All When Ready!

ayshacom:
Good hope you overcame yours. Thumbs up!

With the help from God and with all I said and more, am beating it, no single incident.

But the exam is still going on oh, but I know that as long I doing all that I have learnt, I will pass for they don't even tempt me like a statement I once heard "you can't threaten an old woman with pregnancy"

I found Sure Strengths in 1) I Love God So So Much and He is Indeed, Very Very Good, and so i Also Want to make Him Happy as He Has Done to Me!

2) I have seen the Destroyed End of All who Fall into Lust, Most, Never come up again from that Very Deeeep PiiiT! I came to the conclusion that it is better not to even go near the pit not to even talk of entering into it!

3) God Who Goodly has Given me my own good wife (a good wife who can find? I was Given mine). So in great appreciation to God and in further honour of her, I am very Happy walking this road and I did not know that it would be this Soo Sweeet!!

Men, if only you could learn to walk this road, meen it is very very very sweet with many many many good things, I tell you the Truth!

The 60 seconds, ok 30 minutes sweetness of Lust, No Reach this One! This One is sweet from morning to night, all day, all night, all week, all year, all years!

While lust after all its sweetness, COMES WITH GREAT PAIN, the Bitch Must become the The-Evil sent to Torment you and finally Destroy you, But on this Road, Blessings very plenty, increase in good things very plenty, your plans shall always work, Peace very plenty, Nothing and no one dey disturb you. And all the fine fine babes wey no dey give you eye, na so dem go dey greet you with Great Respect and Fear "Good morning Sir, how is your Wife!"

Man, this is Life!

Come on Over.

frank317:
U are like someone who has never been to Ghana, never heard or watched a vedio about what happens in Ghana, but u start telling people things about Ghana and when certain questions are raised about what u say about Ghana u quickly say what ever is in Ghana is beyond us.

If u don't know and accept we will never understand about anything beyond space and time, then let it go and stop telling us meaningless stories about space and time.

I have answered you

frank317:
Thanks... So if I get u right... The reason why God gave us freewill despite knowing the outcome of the freewill will not be good is because he didn't want us to be like robots and didn't want people like me to come and ask why didn't he give us freewill?

Do u guys actually know what u talk about when u call the name God?

I have answered you up there, I'm awaiting your response if any!

MuttleyLaff:
Daejoyoung, nwanne, brother, you're trying to say that there is no freewill, and so then implying because of that, human beings can't be held morally responsible for their actions because according to you "que sera, sera" what would be would be, and nothing can change that coming from an argument that all everyone and everything, humans, animals and things are each and all doing is following the lines in a scripted destiny and fate existence.

I am not against freewill. My having freewill is part of what sets me apart from an animal, object and/or whatever phenomena you can imagine.

Whether freewill is exercised or not exercised, freewill is intrinsically present in every human being and to be made use of as of from when maturely able to. Adam & Eve were matured enough to put freewill into use, so they did and the rest is history.

Now, please tell Daejoyoung, do you really believe that you don't have freewill?

The simple understanding of the idea of Freewill vs Foreknowledge is Seen and Explained in a Father and Children Relationship.

Every father here has seen and experienced that he is Sometimes Able to Predict and Foresee what his children shall do but Does He interfere? No, he does not!

He watches to see what his children shall do! As was done to Cain and to Sodom and Gomorrah and all over the Bible, even right now!

Why? Every father here knows the answer! Which is to either Bless with more Goodies or whip and Cane dey come or some other plan wey d papa get, but na d papa na Im go get plan. Pikin can NEVER know I'm papa. All E fit do na to dey calculate and speculate and to dey watch I'm papa to see if him fit find I'm papa plan!

frank317:
What then is the point of God overseeing his children like a good father would of he will just watch his good daughter get raped and do nothing because he is not ready?

Ooooooh! I just finished having lengthy arguements with you lot since Saturday to Sunday and Always on these Repeating and Repeatory Questions, and I am exhausted. I really do not want to go into lengthy debates now.

But my position will never change and Antichrists like DustReed will never be able to prove His Guilt before me. So I answer you thus.

If you are a father, you would know this, that there is one period of time when you see your children doing wrong one to another but you did not interfere in it, why? Every father knows this answer, we all do it.

There is another time that you are seething and raging in anger, yet you stopped yourself from acting, why? Every father knows that answer too.

And One (I did not say the whole answer) of such answers, is that you are waiting for the wrong doer to either change and remedy his wrongs (which we know he would not do) or to see the FULLNESS OF HIS WICKEDNESS, how far and how long is his Wickedness.

And when the father can't take anymore, (as we say E cup don full), then you know that Great and Terrible Day, when even his wife, mother of the children would not be able to enter to restrain him, Not even his Neighbours and friends will stop the Judgements that will fall on that evil child!

Every father knows this!