₦airaland Forum

ketchupBoy:
Stupidity is when you forget which country you come from and think you are in Europe where they just let you go like that, Stupidity is not realizing that the SS got derivation, NDDC and Ministry of Niger Delya

Ignorance is failure to realize the Importance of History and Patience and trying to run a Marathon like a Sprint ( i see you south east)

Helplessness is when the SS since the war has gotten a region, gotten more states, gotten derivation, gotten non oil dichotomy, given access to offshore bases, gotten a ministry, has had a president, while South east has gotten Nothing.

Per the bolded, this is homely applied to those who shout south-south today and forgot who fought for it. I had rather get to my house empty-stomached than filled up belly and die on the road.

Truckpusher:
Well, [b]going to war when you've got no factories to build your own ammunitions [/b]while relying on international pity is simply suicidal, myopic and ill conceived and I'm sure you've read that piece of poetry with the title " she stoops to conquer" Nelson Mandela would have sealed the fate of a lot of South Africans if had embarked on a mission of perosnal vendetta after he was released from prison.
You can comment without the insults - let's have a healthy discussion , we can disagree but we don't have to curse - We are not in a park here where agberos curse each other.
Thanks.

For umpteenth times, Biafra did not declare war or wanted to go war with anybody. Biafrans were simply what is all about human instinct which is self preservation. Eastern region cannot simply capitulated when the people of the region have been massacred and yet illegal government of Nigeria led by bunch of nonentities whose people have just committed atrocity against easterners divide their region into states. When the people said we preferred to remain with regional status, war was declared on them. It is very shameful that most Nigerians tend to stand history on its head.

trapQ:
A highly esteemed friend of mine has just advised me to quit responding which I've heeded to. In arguments, Lengthy conflicting views are unproductive which is why I'm quitting this thread or any other Biafran thread for that matter. Good day

Per the bolded, I guess your so-called "highly esteemed friend" has advised you to stop displaying your inherent ignorance on the public domain. Anyway I do know what you take me for, but I know most Nigerians are ignorantly dishonest.

Truckpusher:
And after the war where are we today?
Refer back to my quote about the nature and the taming of a bully. You'll find some wisdom in it.

Even if you were weakling duck when your house is divided by a bully, you can, at least, quack. Gowon position was not recognized by the eastern region after the botched coup of July 29, 1966. Therefore, Gowon has no legal pedigree to mess with eastern region with his idiotic 12 states creation. You seem to misplace your facts due to junk education you received in Rivers State and Nigeria. I guess Biafra would have done a better job on this your issue of education or lack thereof.

Truckpusher:
You no read Chinua Achebe, Elechi Amadi and Cyprian Ekwensi books ?

All the characters mentioned in the above post were Biafrans at one point in their lives. This is one reason Biafra should stand even one of misguided opponents of the agitation found goodies in Biafra.

Truckpusher: Honestly, the autonomous nature of the Igbo man did not give him room for unnecessary patience and diplomacy . But one has to weigh his options carefully before taking a calculated risk which is what the Igbo man lacks in abundance but let's be fair here - There is a conspiracy to keep the igbo man down and this is bad and totally unacceptable .
Sometimes I understand their plight and frustration because how can a people so vibrant be held down by some crazed zombies that has total disregard for nationalism and self development but wanting to drag the Niger delta into their problems is a no no situation even as we find ourselves in the same boat. We are children of circumstances and it would be unfortunate to for us to take any calculated risk that will backfire. At least not now.

If I were Ojukwu I wouldn't go to war but I'll build a regional economic powerhouse because once you win the economic war then the military confrontation will become a walk in the park.

Why is North Korea not attacking South Korea on a full scale invasion ? Because the big boys interests are in the South.
Win the economic war and watch the North come to the negotiating table.

Per the bolded, it is no longer in doubt how shallow you are intellectually. Do you mean that Ojukwu should build regional economic powerhouse on a region Gowon has already divided into states? The breakages of the regions into states were the pure declaration of war on eastern region of Nigeria by illegal Nigerian government led by Gowon.

Truckpusher:
You've been noticed and dropped into the gutter where you belong as far as I'm concerned.
Child of anger and bad belle.

I am just following your ill-intended gist. It is not easy to forget your Ogba massacre conjecture by Biafran troops. Bad manners are followed by good radiance.

Truckpusher:
What do you do when a bully is luring you to say something that will give him the needed excuses to beat the hell out of you ? You play dumb , weak and afraid until the time is right.

I wish sometimes you can rely on you advice such as "At a point common sense will not push you far - An educated mind is a goldmine". You seem be ill-educated. By the way, Ojukwu did not break Nigeria into 12 states. It is apparent in your case that even the "common sense" is no longer common.

People have become very uninterested in nigeria.

I met an ibibio man who hushed me to shut up wen i tried to cut his region out from biafra. He told me that ibibios are cousins with the igbos n that the word first son in igbo is same with how they say it in his own ibibio dialect. He said our generation were not taught any history in skol.


There's a full Igala community living in Anambra state as we speak. U can use Google n confirm, they are called "Anam people"

They are not mainly living in Anambra State, they are Anambrians.

Eddygourdo:
you have mentioned the solution to the igbo problem and also highlighted why violence should be far from igbo minds, we have everything to lose and they have little to lose in event if a war. Or break down of peace and order.

These is one reason I want Ndiigbo out of Nigeria and support the IPOB and MAASOB since Nigerian educational system is nothing to write home about though. Per the bolded, who are "we"? Please it is wise to maintain some form of clarity. You find it at home to write Igbo and Igbo people and very hard and shameful to mention or write your dull ethnicity in the same context.

kayo80:
I never said a country must be endowed with crude oil...I was just asking why most igbo people keep saying Northerners are using THEIR OIL. That's all. I hardly hear Niger Delta people saying that.

Ndiigbo are not interested in your crude oil or lack thereof. Ndiigbo want their freedom and do not want compatriots who have animalistic intellect. In fact, it should be the good reason Biafra should be let go because they do not produce crude oil. Per the bolded, I do know who are Niger Delta people in Nigeria. Nigerians have the knack to show blurred intelligence in academic exercise.

kayo80:
Blah Blah! We are talking about where the majority of the oil exported comes from, not the minute amount that comes from Imo and Abia. I can as well say the Hausa's are using my oil from Ondo state to better their lives. I am 100% behind the fight of the Niger Delta people for how unfairly they are treated because by the government even though their land gives us majority of our exporting commodity, and they suffer on top of that from oil spillage...But Igbo people should please come up with a better argument.

Must a country be endowed with crude oil in order to progress. I had rather have Biafra patterned toward Japan without a grain of crude oil than to moronic Nigeria with tons of barrels of crude oil. It is silly to inject the down fall of Nigeria, which is crude oil, into academic debate. Anybody who does that is an irredeemable dunce.

kayo80:
First of all, Igbo people don't produce the Oil that runs the nation, you guys need to stop saying that. South south people produce the oil...And they sure don't speak the Igbo language, so how would they go with you guys? Secondly, Yoruba people also have to score higher in cutoff point just as igbo children...And this is because the northern children are a bit behind when it comes to general educational level.

One of the reasons is that Biafrans do not want to associate with people who claimed to produce crude oil. As you have allegedly posited, Igbo people produce palm oil and it is enough for us. Crude Oil has destroyed Nigeria forever.

Enahi:
You are migrants in ph and its time you go back to Biafra where u belong.

Igbo person can never be a migrant in a city named Igweocha. When Biafra is realized, the name, Port Harcourt, shall be jettisoned because it is one of the colonial relics. Port Harcourt is just like Nigeria.

trapQ:
the only place the SS is with Biafra is in your dreams. In the case of a break up, NIGER DELTA REPUBLIC will suffice. The SS leaders have said it countlessly, SS isn't with Biafra. Even their ikwerre brothers in Rivers State has spoken against the biafran agitation.

I usually regard people who embrace the term south-south as irreversible dumbass gulls. Please do not be ashamed of your ethnicity and quit hiding behind unfounded south-south to make silly political comments. Bakassi was once so-called south-south and I wonder what some overfed ninnies in south-south have done to change the political saga of Bakassi. USA citizens usually say that stupidity cannot be fixed. This statement aptly describes the moronic dingbats that wear imaginary south-south logo.

dinachi:
It will be horrible economically for our people IF they go on to become Biafra. It will be an economic hell. With most importers being of Igbo origin, they are gonna have to depend on Lagos and Port Harcourt Ports to get anything in. And that is where Nigeria is going to make a killing on import duties and rates. The customs are also going to make a killing on goods heading to Biafra. We will be forced to import foods like, yams, beans, onions, tomatoes, carrots even beef from the north. It is not like I expect the Biafran zombies here to understand, they will never do because anything short of their beloved biafra is not acceptable even if the Biafra is hell in its self!

As for the IPOB clowns, they will never understand the damage they did to businesses of Igbo men and women with their senseless and violent protests. Blocking the Niger bridge for the length of time they did cost Igbo men and women billions in profits.

But this post is not for the zombies, it is only for the Igbo men and women. who still thinks and has balanced reasoning. Zombies can do only what they know how to do best, rant and rave.

One of the best growing economies on the African continent is Botswana yet it is landlocked. I cannot remember when Switzerland had coastal plains at Atlantic or Pacific Ocean shoreline yet Switzerland is major economy in the world. I hate uneducated Nigerians come to NL to proffer silly reasons on the down fall of imaginary Biafra. Until we get to the bridge, there must be a way to cross it.

kayo80:
This may sound like a dumb question, but I really want to know; why exactly do igbo people want to break away from Nigeria?


I am asking this because the current agitator for Biafra, Nnandi Kanu, in most of his interviews is always saying that the North can't keep on enjoying their oil. And this makes me think...Is the oil for the South Easterners or for the South South people? I have asked a lot of my friends from the south south (both online and offline) and none of them is interested in leaving Nigeria and being a part of a predominantly igbo speaking Biafra.


Another reason Nnadi Kanu always gives is that Hausa/Fulani are killing Igbo people. I don't know how true that is. All I know is Boko Haram, a terror group in Northern part of Nigeria has been killing NIGERIANS of all tribes and religions.


My argument is...since Igbo people always say they are the most hardworking people in Nigeria (I think this is somewhat true, as I sold CDs and DVDs for about 8 years at a point, and the hustling spirit of igbo people in Alaba always marveled me), then why do they clamor so much for position in the government of the zoo? We all know that even if Fashola becomes the president tomorrow, it won't automatically better my life as a Yoruba man. Most politicians care solely about themselves. So, why can't Igbo people stay with Nigeria, and make their millions from all part of Nigeria as they have always done? If they break free, will they also leave all the parts of the Zoo they have their businesses in?

Nigeria cannot manage a gutter!!!

Truth must be told that most Nigerians lack animalistic intellect. Why do Nigerians get it wrong each time they have the opportunity to get it right?

vladimiros:
[size=15pt]Tonye leave the fools alone

I am from Akwa Ibom and read that thread, we Ibibios, Annangs and Oron are very educated, same with Ikweres, and Ijaws..

if they think we would sit down and not call for [b]true federalism someday then they are mistaken..

"The Negro is ignored today simply because he has kept himself backward; but if he were to try to raise himself to a higher state in the civilized cosmos, all the other races would be glad to meet him on the plane of equality and comradeship
"

Marcus Garvey (Martin, 1976)[/b][/size]

I guess you are too educated to fail for the political shenanigans born out of idiocy. For example the bolded in red, there is nothing such as "true or false federalism". The term "true federalism" is used by clueless and dishonest losers.

adamshuaib:
The Igbos in Gombe State have disowned their kinsmen in the South East, who have been protesting in many cities in the region. They said they decided to tow the line of the Ohaneze Ndigbo, the apex Igbo socio- cultural organisation, in the matter relating to agitation for the actualisation of Biafra.

http://www.ngrguardiannews.com/?p=68086

Biafra does not mean the end of Nigeria. They can stay in Gombe State as Nigerians. However the movement for realization of Biafra is an express train that has left Gombe station. They will be required to present visa when they visit Biafra.

skidskid:
lols brother now you have said your mind which is simple ... the ibos just want to go even if it is to suffering or enjoyment they don't care ... they just wanna go .. well goodlluck Google Congo , Dr Congo , Rwanda , Uganda , Gambia and am sure you will put something together concerning the leaders of these countries m


anyways this is the reason why I dnt Want the ibos to go if they go then automatically Niger delta will go too. and while you ibos might deceive yourselves that prosperity awaits Niger deltans know that only chaos and anarchy awaits besides am a Benin man , Benin empire cannot leave naija and be under any country again #God forbid

now to your point on ibos choosing to remain in nigria I refer you to the Yugoslav wars . Google it me sef if I jam ibo man for naija in the event biafra becomes a sovereign country I will behead him/her because you can't eat your cake and have it . lol. just kidding

Per the bolded, this is the one reason Africans are disdainfully looked upon as low-life good-for-nothing jackasses excerpt for love-making and stealing. Most eastern European countries disintegrated along ethnic lines yet no shot was fired in anger. Today, those nation states are progressing along the corridor of peace and harmony. Are Africans the creations of something other than God? The call for self-determination does not call for armed conflict.

skidskid:
lol am a finance man I don't judge a govt by tarred roads or. keke napep distributed .

I really like your point but I contend with where you lay majority of the blame . actually I don't know much of anything about port operations but as for EEDC I remind you it was gej tenure that phcn was sold off or whatever now unto enforcement I remind you it takes political will ... political pressure must be generated by s /east. gov, n senators I watched the season where madam tinubu made some prayers about the gridlock @ apapa ports and over 90% of senators there affirmed . so I repeat you elected reps and senators to abuja or them work!

The zeal to have one’s own nation is not motivated by tarred roads, ill-motivated industries, composite bridges and fancy airport or seaports but an ideologue that will cement the solemn endeavor of the people with the same culture and language in pursuit of unity. Biafra is an ideologue to the IPOB period. Unity is the hallmark of a progressive nation which Nigeria lacks awfully. Nigeria is not built on dynamic principles hence any attempt to change the ridged corrupt shape of the country attracts the irritation of people who would rather use war than dialogue.

YoundDoctor:
You are very wrong...
As there are no place where it is found that it was igala people from kogi that are fighting Anambrarians...
Igala people are in Anambra already and they are also anambrarians... Igbo's and igala have been living peacefully in Anambra state...
How can igala fight their own people?

Please get your facts right...
As igala are not the only ethnicity found in kogi state.

Bros there are so many ignoramuses on NL who know little about the country called Nigeria.

banki:
Keep lying....

The same ibeto cement of obj yaradua jonathan period?

If there is a ban on importation of cement and other people like burham are not allowed to import can anyone give me any genuine reason why ibeto should be allowed

There are indegenious producers like larfage ashaka and dangote...

Do you think Dangote does not import cement?

I am not surprise too. This has been modus operandi of the northern regional oligarchy that have ruled Nigeria egged on by the southwestern regional cabals. It is only in Nigeria where a citizen is frustrated so that another citizen from a particular section of the country will enjoy.

antibiafra:
Please nairalanders and all patriotic Nigerians need your help here. It's seems am the only igbo that wants a united Nigeria, we all should come together and make the Biafrans reason with us, we want a united Nigeria, all agrieved parties will be settled. Let us come together and move Nigeria to a greater height.

All patriotic Nigerians I need your support.

Nigeria is a dead-end. A fool at the 40 can remain a fool forever.

skidskid:
couldn't figure out how u bolded that Part so I will only spell out mine " Nigeria's stinking allocations are given to the CABAL " WELL in the east the cabals there would logically be easterners right? same with cabals according to each geo zone so it then goes without saying that the only thing that will change is the passport being held by these vampires that make up this cabal . from Nigeria to biafran.
no change in ideology or intent just embezzling resources so In other words to rephrase on of your lines " the people in these cabal do not want any allocation from Nigeria they want to be free to determine what percentage of their resources to embezzle"

or do u think it's not politicians who are fanning the flames of ipob ?

At least, there should be a noticeable change ala passport. Have you not heard most of the cabals are calling for the agitation for Biafra to stop?
Biafra does not called for the end of Nigeria. There are many Ndigbo who may remain in Nigeria but the majority of Ndiigbo simply want out of the cesspit called Nigeria. What is too hard to comprehend? If Biafra would become the land of fools, criminals, imbeciles and jokers, all Nigerians have to say is "I told you". Most Nigerians should stop playing God on issues concerning Biafra and its future. It is silly to play God.

scholes0:
That is just the enrollment in Public secondary schools, not all school enrollments, Genius!

The onus is on you to provide all the statistics in a debate. The one you provided so far is not helping you. By the way, if we shall follow the trend in the public school model, the private school could not sway the trend.

skidskid:
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you wrong... south east and south south states get huge allocations. and what do they have to show for it? is a northerner or westerner the present or past governors of any south east / south south state? please it's all economic. . a man who can afford to feed his family and has the basic necessities of life won't be spoiling for a break up . that's why Scotland voted NO to breaking up the Union .
instead of holding your ibo leaders accountable you guys were first AGITATING for ibo president , now biafra . isn't t the Same criminals that will rule biafra? how will an ibo mans life improve at that point. trust me it'll stagnate

Per the bolded, the so-called Nigeria's stinking allocations are given to the cabal who supports the continuous lingering of the dilapidated house called Nigeria built by the imperialist. Ndiigbo do want any allocations from Nigeria but want to manage their resources regardless of how little it maybe. Any Igbo person who hungers for presidency of the stinking British creation called Nigeria should be shot.

This is very impressive and hilarious!!!

scholes0:
Will you provide us with facts or just keep shut!
Jeeeesu!! ...... These people can pull out statements from their butts like no other people I have come across!
I think it is now becoming a known fact all of Nairaland, that anything Igbos on here say should not be taken with any seriousness, because they are 90% of the time purely sentimental or just flatout inaccurate!

Okay, let us compare the King of SE states (Anambra) poverty rate to a typical south Western state.

This is straight from the bureau of Statistics.

[size=13pt]Ogun Vs Anambra[/size]

https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5664/23267992600_170caf2f9d_b.jpg

Okay, let us compare another SE state that Igbos love to brag about so much about; Enugu- A state that we all know is just like Rural Benue or Kogi outside of the its Capital facade.

[size=13pt]Ondo Vs Enugu[/size]

https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5645/22935572564_f64f9147fa_b.jpg

Why are you guyz such pathological liars?
Is it genetic or a mass psychological condition ?

Few of the statistics you posted to support your arguments are hilarious. For example, Ogun State enrolled more students than Anambra but produces less school leavers than Ananmbra State. If Anambra State is in close proximity with Lagos State as does Ogun State, it will amount to insult to compare Anambra State with any other state but Lagos.