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Aggrippa: okay I concur with your view... however I have a feeling that the treatment (management), screening, quarantine and isolation is not aggressive neither is it meticulous enough! what is your assurance that the medics are doing a 110% job?

Thanks

I also agree that more needs to be done on enlightening the public.

Ashantiking: He said they shouldn't keep ebola victims in the same room even if they have the virus. Every case should be isolated.

They are not kept in the same room with unconfirmed cases!

Aggrippa: mumu country, mumu minister?, mumu medics, mumu people how can you dump force everyone you suspect has Ebola into one small area for quarantine without giving them proper care? and not expect the disease to spread?
solution: each case or suspect case should be singly isolated or quarantined in specified individual locations and also cautiously treated with great care!

Your post is not true!

If you are not a healthcare professional on ground please stop spreading speculations.

Confirmed cases and unconfirmed cases are separated.

Once the test results are negative then you need not be held.

Ashantiking: I don't want to derail this thread because I believe this is a serious case, so count your blessing. I will let this slide

I do not care how you feel.
Just yesterday people started unfounded rumours on salt therapy and now people are dead and some critically ill.

Now you want to champion an even more dangerous rumour and you expect me to applaud you.

Vincenzi: I repeat,say what you know. If u are ignorant of facts,just keep quiet rather than assume!
I have first hand info that the nurse only made people aware of her situation when it had gone really bad. The case of Patrick Sawyer,he kept denying every contact with ebola. His sister died three weeks before. He was already coughing blood when he came to Nigeria,which means the disease had progressed fast.
With people having this kind of poor mentality,i really doubt the quick control of this situation.
The female medical doctor is stable because she was smart enough o alert the medical officials on time.
Early detection is the best.
I am sure you had your bath with salt water yesterday?

Please leave that ignoramus.

I have tried to educate him but he is adamant on his crude beliefs.

Ashantiking: Did I ever say I was a big a nigerian. I already have my reasons for saying what I said if don't like it, don't quote me. I will continue to say what I have to say. Is people like you that allow the government to take u for a ride.


Even if they are not deliberately killing them, I believe they are not giving them the necessary care.

Then move your gaynian butt off this forum and stop spreading lies here

Ashantiking: Okay if it is the wrong info, inform them to put the right up.

Regardless Whether it was a nurse or a doctor. A person died of the deadly disease or are you trying to say a doctor's life is more valuable than a nurse's.

Please shut it you are shifting grounds.

I simply told you to stop wrongly accusing the government of deliberately "killing" Ebola patients.


Spreading such unfounded rumours will lead to people refusing treatment.

This is what happened with the salt therapy and now it has already killed more Nigerians than Ebola.

Your moniker shows you are not even Nigerian so why come here and spread your stupid superstitions.

Ashantiking: First of all I am not talking about Nigeria. Why should I be arrested for speaking my mind.

According to the news he is dead.

https://www.nairaland.com/1845228/nigerian-female-doctor-dies-ebola

You are misinformed, just like the thousands that read that thread.

That is why I keep pleading with mods to edit wrong headings.

It is the nurse that died the doctor is still very much alive.


You seem to be artful in misinforming the public.

Ashantiking: First of all I am not talking about Nigeria. Why should I be arrested for speaking my mind.

According to the news he is dead.

https://www.nairaland.com/1845228/nigerian-female-doctor-dies-ebola

Is Nigeria not in Africa?
Besides it is false irrespective.

Ashantiking: They are running because everyone with sense knows that african government are killing people with suspected ebola. Majority ilof the dead didn't die if ebola, it is the government that is killing them.

You are an ignorant dolt!!!
The Nigerian doctor that was diagnosed first is still alive.

Why would spread such lies!

These are the myths that destroy our health sector.

These are the kind of myths that has made people turn down vaccination and made polio still not eradicated.

You should be traced and arrested for spreading such.

12inches1: Very irresponsible statement. Do you know that in Liberia with early treatment over 60 percent of people survive the virus? This drops to the 90th percentile when the treatment is late. This reason contributed to the nurses death. So I heard. Now she put not only herself at greater risk but also the lives of her husband and children. Assuming she turned herself for treatment and didn't run, she will probably still be alive now. This is the message we should be spreading. Ebola is not a death sentence with early treatment. People survive it and thereafter becoming forever immune to it. I think her husband and children names and pictures should be released as WANTED with strict consequences for harbouring them.

You will remain blessed.

A message of hope will prevent scenarios like this.

Valto: @ ngwere ekwensu, your hatred for GEJ/PDP will surely consume u one day. U are so evil. Tufiakwa gi!!! Nothing is ever good for your eye so far its GEJ. U seriously need help!

Beautiful vegetation around the centre, hope it is maintained.

As a side note.


Can't we get proper barriers for military check points in this country?

I hate it when pieces of wood, rusty drums, tyres etc are dragged unto the road in the name of barrier.

Just look at that ugly piece of wood on that road.

OP is a crappy bungalow and white tarpaulins supposed to make me leap for joy?

ibedun: After commanding EBOLA Jonathan to declare that his father land is a disease ravaged land.

4 possible victims and EBOLA JONATHAN was arm twisted to declare his people are scums of earth by his declaration of the state of emergency.

The guy is not competent to run anything

People like you are the reason the country is still backwards.

Are you waiting for 1000 people to die before he declares state if emergency on Ebola?

Or you must find something silly to say about your president.

I am happy the moderators eventually pulled down the threads that were promoting salt water intake even though it took them a very long time to do so.
Moderators have a duty to pull down such threads that disseminate false and very dangerous information, and their response despite several reports is often too slow.

DRealGeesam1: So i should have just kept quiet abi.
Who knew people will take it this serious.
Nairaland has too many kids. Mind how you talk to me pls!

You have the silly guts to call names.
You should just drop your apology and log off.

8. What about health workers? How should they protect themselves while caring for patients?

Health workers treating patients with suspected or confirmed illness are at higher risk of infection than other groups. During an outbreak a number of important actions will reduce or stop the spread of the virus and protect health workers and others in the health-care setting. These actions are called “standard and other additional precautions” and are evidence-based recommendations known to prevent the spread of infections. The following questions and answers describe the precautions in detail.

Should patients with suspected or confirmed Ebola virus be separated from other patients?
Isolating patients with suspected or confirmed Ebola virus disease in single isolation rooms is recommended. Where isolation rooms are not available, it is important to assign designated areas, separate from other patients, for suspected and confirmed cases. In these designated areas, suspect and confirmed cases should also be separate. Access to these areas should be restricted, needed equipment should be dedicated strictly to suspected and confirmed EVD treatment areas, and clinical and non-clinical personnel should be exclusively assigned to isolation rooms and dedicated areas.

Are visitors allowed in areas where patients suspected or confirmed Ebola virus disease are admitted?
Stopping visitor access to patients infected with EVD is preferred. If this is not possible, access should be given only to those individuals who are necessary for the patient’s well-being and care, such as a child’s parent.

Is protective equipment required when caring for these patients?
In addition to standard health-care precautions, health-care workers should strictly apply recommended infection control measures to avoid exposure to infected blood, fluids, or contaminated environments or objects – such as a patient’s soiled linen or used needles.
All visitors and health-care workers should rigorously use what is known as personal protective equipment (PPE). PPE should include at least: gloves, an impermeable gown, boots/closed shoes with overshoes, a mask, and eye protection for splashes (goggles or face shields).
[b]Is hand hygiene important?
[/b]Hand hygiene is essential and should be performed:

before donning gloves and wearing PPE on entry to the isolation room/area;
before any clean or aseptic procedures is being performed on a patient;
after any exposure risk or actual exposure with a patient’s blood or body fluids;
after touching (even potentially) contaminated surfaces, items, or equipment in the patient’s surroundings; and
after removal of PPE, upon leaving the isolation area
It is important to note that neglecting to perform hand hygiene after removing PPE will reduce or negate any benefits of the PPE.

Either an alcohol-based hand rub or soap and running water can be used for hand hygiene, applying the correct technique recommended by WHO. It is important to always perform hand hygiene with soap and running water when hands are visibly soiled. Alcohol-based hand rubs should be made available at every point of care (at the entrance and within the isolation rooms and areas); running water, soap, and single use towels should also be always available.

12. Is it safe to travel during an outbreak? What is WHO’s travel advice?

During an outbreak, WHO reviews the public health situation regularly, and recommends any travel or trade restrictions if necessary.

The risk of infection for travelers is very low since person-to-person transmission results from direct contact with the body fluids or secretions of an infected patient.

Is it safe to travel with persons who have Ebola?
As with any illness or disease, it is always possible that a person who has been exposed to Ebola virus may choose to travel. If the individual has not developed symptoms (see FAQ #4), they cannot transmit EVD to those around them. If the individual does have symptoms, they should seek immediate medical attention at the first sign they are feeling unwell. This may require either notifying the flight crew or ship crew or, upon arrival at a destination, seeking immediate medical attention. Travellers who show initial symptoms of EVD should be isolated to prevent further transmission. Although the risk to fellow travellers in such a situation is very low, contact tracing is recommended under these circumstances.

Is it safe to travel to West Africa on business or to visit family and friends?
The risk of a tourist or businessman/woman becoming infected with Ebola virus during a visit to the affected areas and developing disease after returning is extremely low, even if the visit included travel to the local areas from which primary cases have been reported. Transmission requires direct contact with blood, secretions, organs or other body fluids of infected living or dead persons or animal, all of which are unlikely exposures for the average traveller. In any event, tourists are advised to avoid all such contacts.

If you are visiting family or friends in the affected areas, the risk is similarly low, unless you have direct physical contact with a person who is ill or who has died. If this is the case, it is important to notify public health authorities and engage in contact tracing. Contact tracing is used to confirm you have not been exposed to EVD and to prevent further spread of the disease through monitoring.

WHO’s general travel advice

Travelers should avoid all contact with infected patients.
Health workers traveling to affected areas should strictly follow WHO-recommended infection control guidance.
Anyone who has stayed in areas where cases were recently reported should be aware of the symptoms of infection and seek medical attention at the first sign of illness.
Clinicians caring for travelers returning from affected areas with compatible symptoms are advised to consider the possibility of Ebola virus disease.
For additional travel advise, please read the Travel and transport risk assessment: Recommendations for public health authorities and transport sector at http://who.int/ith/updates/20140421/en/.

9. What about rumours that some foods can prevent or treat the infection?

WHO strongly recommends that people seek credible health advice about Ebola virus disease from their public health authority.

While there is no specific drug against Ebola, the best treatment is intensive supportive treatment provided in the hospital by health workers using strict infection control procedures. The infection can be controlled through recommended protective measures.

7. What can I do? Can it be prevented? Is there a vaccine?

Currently, there is no licensed medicine or vaccine for Ebola virus disease, but several products are under development.

Ways to prevent infection and transmission
While initial cases of Ebola virus disease are contracted by handling infected animals or carcasses, secondary cases occur by direct contact with the bodily fluids of an ill person, either through unsafe case management or unsafe burial practices. During this outbreak, most of the disease has spread through human-to-human transmission. Several steps can be taken to help in preventing infection and limiting or stopping transmission.

[b]Understand the nature of the disease, how it is transmitted, [/b]and how to prevent it from spreading further. (For additional information, please see the previous questions about Ebola virus disease in this FAQ.)
Listen to and follow directives issued by your country’s respective Ministry of Health.
If you suspect someone close to you or in your community of having Ebola virus disease, encourage and support them in seeking appropriate medical treatment in a care facility.
If you choose to care for an ill person in your home, notify public health officials of your intentions so they can train you and provide appropriate gloves and personal protective equipment (PPE), as well as instructions as a reminder on how to properly care for the patient, protect yourself and your family, and properly dispose of the PPE after use. N.B. WHO does not recommend home care and strongly advises individuals and their family members to seek professional care in a treatment centre.
[b]When visiting patients in the hospital or caring for someone at home, hand washing with soap and water is recommended after touching a patient, being in contact with their bodily fluids, or touching his/her surroundings.
[/b]People who have died from Ebola should only be handled using appropriate protective equipment and should be buried immediately.
Additionally, individuals should reduce contact with high-risk infected animals (i.e. fruit bats, monkeys or apes) in the affected rainforest areas. If you suspect an animal is infected, do not handle it. Animal products (blood and meat) should be thoroughly cooked before eating.

3. Who is most at risk?

During an outbreak, those at higher risk of infection are:

health workers;
family members or others in close contact with infected people;
mourners who have direct contact with the bodies of the deceased as part of burial ceremonies.
More research is needed to understand if some groups, such as immuno-compromised people or those with other underlying health conditions, are more susceptible than others to contracting the virus.

Exposure to the virus can be controlled through the use of protective measures in clinics and hospitals, at community gatherings, or at home.

Additional transmission has occurred in communities during funerals and burial rituals. Burial ceremonies in which mourners have direct contact with the body of the deceased person have played a role in the transmission of Ebola. Persons who have died of Ebola must be handled using strong protective clothing and gloves and must be buried immediately. WHO advises that the deceased be handled and buried by trained case management professionals, who are equipped to properly bury the dead.

People are infectious as long as their blood and secretions contain the virus. For this reason, infected patients receive close monitoring from medical professionals and receive laboratory tests to ensure the virus is no longer circulating in their systems before they return home. When the medical professionals determine it is okay for the patient to return home, they are no longer infectious and cannot infect anyone else in their communities. Men who have recovered from the illness can still spread the virus to their partner through their semen for up to 7 weeks after recovery. For this reason, it is important for men to avoid sexual intercourse for at least 7 weeks after recovery or to wear condoms if having sexual intercourse during 7 weeks after recovery.

Generally, a person must come into contact with an animal that has Ebola and it can then spread within the community from human to human.

1. What is Ebola virus disease?
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Ebola virus disease (formerly known as Ebola haemorrhagic fever) is a severe, often fatal illness, with a death rate of up to 90%. The illness affects humans and nonhuman primates (monkeys, gorillas, and chimpanzees).

Ebola first appeared in 1976 in two simultaneous outbreaks, one in a village near the Ebola River in the Democratic Republic of Congo, and the other in a remote area of Sudan.

The origin of the virus is unknown but fruit bats (Pteropodidae) are considered the likely host of the Ebola virus, based on available evidence.

2. How do people become infected with the virus?

In the current outbreak in West Africa, the majority of cases in humans have occurred as a result of human-to-human transmission.

Infection occurs from direct contact through broken skin or mucous membranes with the blood, or other bodily fluids or secretions (stool, urine, saliva, semen) of infected people. Infection can also occur if broken skin or mucous membranes of a healthy person come into contact with environments that have become contaminated with an Ebola patient’s infectious fluids such as soiled clothing, bed linen, or used needles.

Crap!

So the mallam was clueless all along.

OP are you well at all?

You just open a silly thread to garner attention.

SirShymex: I'm loving this. Thumps up for the insightful post. Honestly, if the overwhelming majority of the people are practitioners of a particular religion, and the religion is intertwined with their identity - there's absolutely nothing wrong in the state and religion working together as a single entity. That was what all Western societies were built on because Christianity represented the indentity of the people(who they're). However, these days because of globalisation, and multi-culturalism, it's more covert and not as overt as it used to be. But almost everything that governs them still has those Christian values.

For a country like Nigeria where the two prominent religions are evenly distributed and neither represent the identity of the people, then both have to be regulated, and banned in certain aspects of the society - to enable co-existence. I hate to say this: but Islam is more or less a cancer due to the aggressive nature of the practitioners and the doctrine, especially whenever it has to compete with other religions for supremacy. And Christianity on the other hand in Africa is more or less a tumour, due to its non-aggressive nature albeit still problematic because of the faux hope based on faith it gives the people. Also, I think the reason why African Christians aren't that aggressive is because most Africans are more into pentecostalism, and the doctrine isn't aggressive. Even those who're into the traditional Christian Churches don't dwell on the core aspects of it.

There are a lot of countries with demographics that are somewhat similar to Nigeria. UK for example is somewhat similar to Nigeria albeit England is far bigger than the rest. However, the system of government kind of creates a balance. Ditto Canada and the different provinces; Belgium and the regional government with the French and Dutch parts; Mainland China and Hong Kong etc.. I can even break the whole of Western Europe down into how they've been able to manage the ethnic differences in most countries. Most countries in Europe have an overwhelming majority of a certain Indo-European ethnic group, with other Indo-European minorities. However, what they did with a federalised structure is to give semi-autonomy to these minority groups. For example in Italy, Sicily is a semi-autonomous part of Italy. Almost all the regions in Spain are autonomous etc.. That's basically why most countries in Europe are thriving and co-existing peacefully - and no group is forcing its opinions on the others.

Furthermore, 8 years isn't a that short...you can lay a solid foundation within that period while purging the system off the old guards, for continuity. And trust me, once you get certain things in place, it'll be difficult to reverse. However, the best way it can happen is via an authoritarian regime that doesn't really have to deal with so much bureaucracy, especially the legislative and judiciary arms of government. Let's say you substitute the problematic and destructive centralised system of government, for a confederation, or different semi-autonomous regions in a federalised structure - no one will be able to reverse that in a long time. Ditto if you were to change the school curriculum, and the new curriculum yielded positive results during your 8-year tenure.

Finally, for what I'll do if I were to be Nigeria's president - I honestly won't get into that. For that, I'll have to write a book like Gadaffi's "Green Book." I'm more of a Che Guevara, not a Fidel Castro...pulling the strings from behind the scene is my forte. I'm a ghost.

Nice.

I mostly agree with you, however I think most countries in Europe are much more homogeneous than Nigeria.
For one they are mostly monolingual.