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advocate666: Come to Satan. The harbinger of knowledge to the world.
You will live a peaceful, happy, non-violent, pleasure-filled life.
You will not want. Money, power, and adoration will be yours.
Can't you see my brother? You don't need god. Satan will provide all you want in this life.

Your religion sounds a bit secular and humanistic...don't you think?

There is a void in the heart of every man that material things cannot satisfy. There are many satanist out there who have lived and have gone. People like Anton Lavey, the author of Satanic Bible. Have you ever tried to research their last minutes on earth and the last things they said? U'd be shocked at what you will discover. For instance here is Anton Levay's last words before he died...

Anton Lavey last words and Anton Lavey deathbed confession quotes take us to a really confusing place where we don’t know to distinguish the myth and reality. However in the end he revealed that most of what he claimed in his life was not true. Anton Lavey last words and Anton Lavey deathbed confession quotes are something like: “I was wrong with what I did in this life“. He founded the church of the devil and was a big part of preaching to live in the dark side of life, but in the end, few moments before he died he told in front of the camera that he was fooled by the devil all his life and now he is going to hell.

Anton Lavey last words and Anton Lavey deathbed confession quotes were said just before he died from a heart attack.

And hey, this piece is taken from a mystic/psychic's website not even a christian.
http://www.psychic-mystery.com

Another quote:

The woman who followed Anton to his deathbed only to be turned Christian watching & hearing him Cry out to God for mercy.. He begged God to let him live long enough to repent: “Please don’t let me die yet.. I can’t go there, Please let me live long enough to repent”


Do a thorough research and come to your own conclusion's. Don't take my words for it.

“There is a God shaped vacuum in the heart of every man which cannot be filled by any created thing, but only by God, the Creator, made known through Jesus.”

― Blaise Pascal

Enough said.

Response Please....

debrief08: I will teach my boys to share, give to the poor and respect others, I will teach them to work hard with their hands, be content and live simple lives not to be greedy and lazy believing God to be a money doubler.
I will teach them that they cannot serve a God they dont see if they dont serve the least among their brethren.
I will teach them to read the bible worship God in truth and not for benefits and miracles

chiteny: Exactly the same answers i gave to a pastor who asked me the question "since you are not tithing what (financial) principles (of giving) would you teach your children?"

It's simple. Give to all in need. Give to the church (not by tithing but as convinced in your spirit about the needs of the church). Give to the Servants of God voluntarily. Love God. Worship and serve Him in spirit and truth. Live at peace with all men. Do all these as much as you humanly possibly can.

I share the views above. that was why I started this thread. Take a look below

https://www.nairaland.com/1093665/how-u-choose-between-brothers

Ur question has really been answered. U don't have to be a part of the sacrifce. What partnership has darkness with light? Read II Cor. 6

You don't need to be afraid of what those gods might do to U. Perfect Love casts out all fear and He that is U is greater than he that is in the world....I John 4:4

Have faith and hold unto God. He is more than able to protect U. Be strong, be bold, be loud. Give the devil no place and he will flee from U.

Peace

U cannot blame Advocate666 for the religion he has chosen. He has the freedom of choice. Matter of fact, cursing and malignant words will not change anybody's mind.

U can only hope and pray that someday, he will have an encounter with the right Lord and Master.....Jesus Christ that will change his live forever.

U can use the back seat of the church.

U can put some breast milk in a feeding bottle at home and come to church with it. This can be achieved with a simple breast pump or using hands.

It does not look good for a woman seating in the front row to starting breast feeding there. Courtesy demands that she moves to the back row.

Peace.

Hello All,

Please what will you do if a needy brother approaches you with a pressing need and the only cash you have at hand have been earmarked for tithing?

chrisj2000: In as much as i'm not gonna argue with an obstinate, i'm not gonna condone any sort of foul words directed at me by a bible junkie.
bible is the word of god and everything written in it is true. just ask god in the name of jesus to cure every one afflicted with cancer because bible says that whatever you ask the father in the name of crazy jesus shall be given to you.

I have never used any foul word on anybody ever on this forum. Check all my comments from my profile.I didnt use a foul word on you Chris and I will never do that. The word "silly" in my comments was in quotes. The intention of the quote was to connect you back to your previous accusation of the Bible as silly so that you can follow in the flow of the argument you started on your first comment. Take care Chris.

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chrisj2000: tell me why god will slaughter his son so that he can forgive our sins, why not just forgive our sins?.

Hi Chris, I must say that your question is very valid. I mean why would God not just forgive sins. But you must know that God is the creator and there are laws and principles He set in place during creation. Assume yourself Chris to be a car maker i.e you design cars and then someone walks up to you and ask, " Chris, why do you make cars that wear down over time or why do you make cars to use fuel and engine oil, causing users to incur additional cost? Chris, that's very silly of you." Do you see the folly in the question? Now according to the law of nature, moving parts must wear down over time. That is a law built into this realm of existence.There is nothing anybody can do about it. In like manner, God has built some laws into creation. One of which is that without the shedding of blood, there is no forgiveness of sin. That is the way God built it and we have to accept it that way just as we accept the laws of nature that we cannot change. This question is like asking, "why should moving parts wear out over time?" A law of nature called friction has made it so - simple

Until I have a chance of finding out why God designed it that way, that is when His saints will be with Him for all eternity, I must accept what He has put in place.

chrisj2000: this alleged god son rose from death after three days in the grave. decomposition starts immediately after death and three days is long enough for total decomposition of a deceased human body.

Chris, have you seen the Pupa of a butterfly? U remember the egg - larva - pupa - adult metamorphosis of insects right? The larva and pupa are very inactive and they do not look anything like the mature butterfly that fly around. They do not even have wings at all and they have different structure and functions different from the mature butterfly. You also know that some animals do shed their skin right? In like manner, there is a corruptible body and incorruptible body. The corruptible body is the one that decomposes at death just as you have pointed out. Christ died with the corruptible body but He rose with a different body - the incorruptible body A.K.A celestial body. This is the hope of believers. This incorruptible body is not inhibited by material items and that was why Christ could appear at the room why His disciples were though the doors were locked.

Hope I have attempted to answer your questions. I see lots of innocence in your questions and I will be glad to answer other arguments you may have against Christianity. Feel free to inbox me.

Some uncanny comments I read here in Nairaland especially in "Religion" Forum makes me want to think that we have more babes here than mature men.

That makes me feel lazy about coming up with subject matters that will be beneficial to everyone because I know that somewhere down the thread, people will start throwing verbal punches, the thread will derail and the aim will be defeated.

Irrespective of your belief system, objectivity in your comments will benefit someone who has an entirely different stacks of belief from yours.

When someone makes vituperative remarks on your comments, it is not because the person hates you but rather because he does not understand what you are trying to communicate or probably has misread your motivation. Remember that text carry very little percentage of the entire communication and when people read texts, they don't just read the letters, they also read the motivation and intents. The same person you exchange verbal blows with will like you if you happen to meet physically and you can make great friends irrespective of your different points of view - trust me on this one.

Lets grow up, stop the venomous comments and allow our words to be seasoned with salt so that it can communicate peace and tranquility to the readers. you never know who you are talking to...

Thanks a bunch. I have found someone I can trust and he does a pretty good job.

I appreciate all the responses.

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Can anybody corroborate this story?

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nikkyshyne: Hmmm. Some people.

I have dreamt about my secondary school like 2 or 3 times climbing up the stairs or talking to a teacher. I finished from the school more than 10yrs ago.

After dreaming about the school like twice, there was a need to help my sister go to the school to collect her Waec certificate. And guess what, I climbed up the stairs and spoke to couple of my former teachers.

if this is a one time dream, then there is no issues. its probably nothing to worry about. but if this is a recurring dream, U need to seek spiritual advice. Do not be discouraged, rather be strong.

Ok...Please more people should weigh in on this topic...

Some people have said that when U dream and see yourself in a place you used to be, that it is a sure sign of retrogression. Meaning that the spirit of backwardness is trailing the person. You need to seek God in prayers(like fasting and prayers) and seek for the help of your spiritual leaders.
good luck.

This is a face-off between

Matthew 28:18 "And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth." and similar scriptures

versus

Luke 4:6 "And the devil said unto him, All this power will I give thee, and the glory of them: for that is delivered unto me; and to whomsoever I will I give it." AND Luke 10:19 "Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you."

My pastor thinks the devil has no power at all and he often quotes I Peter 5:8, where the devil like a roaring lion seeks whom to devour. He says that the devil is a master of deception but does not have real power.

What do you think?

I love David.

Yes U can. But do not allow ur freedom to be a stumbling block to a weaker brother. Meaning that if ur brother in Christ sees it as wrong, then for his sake U should abstain. U should not eat while he is present.

I know a minister who does not think that taking alcohol is wrong. But he never takes it in the presence of other believers, only in his living room or when he is alone. That's the spirit.

Godmouth has really answered the question.

POSSESSION - NO

OPPRESSION and MANIPULATION - POSSIBLE

But once U realize the manipulations of demons, U can rebuke them in Jesus Name and they will give way.

I also want to throw this in. The Spirit of God lives in our spirit and there cannot be co-habitation with demon spirits. Manipulation and oppression of demon spirit happens on the mind realm. Remember the Mind is the battlefield.

pastormustwacc: ^^^^Thank you very much, you have actually made me smile for the first time this evening.

seriallink: ^^^^Bro, email me a copy of that book pls. seriallink2ng@live.com . Thanks

Try this link:

http://www.insightsofgod.com/downloads/dyingtestimoniesofsavedandunsaved.pdf

My internet is currently filtered. If Unsuccessful, let me know. I will use my home internet to email you the book later in the evening.

Cheers!

Really Interesting topic I must say.

My comment is going to be succint. First nobody knows how he would die. There are slow deaths and there are sudden deaths. HIV AIDs is of course slow but how about auto, plane crash or boko haram , Pretty first eh! If you are banking on the last minutes escape from hell to heaven, do you know how you would die? Whether slow or sudden...

There is a concept I read in a book titled "Dying testimonies of the Saved and Unsaved" (I can email this book to anybody that care). This book tells a story of about 100 people that once lived and some of the comments they made before they departed from this life. Some of them are christian, non-christians, etheists etc.

When God has given you enough time to repent and you refused and stuck to your guns, a time will come when His spirit will not continue to strive with you and you will loose the ability to repent though you are still alive. Yes you heard me, loose the ability to repent. That's one of the things you will learn from people that are about to die. When you get to this state, no matter how hard you try, you just cannot be remorseful and therefore cannot repent. Enough said. A word is sufficient for the wise.

I have the book of jasher though I haven't got time to read it.

When I do, I will see how it matches up with some of my belief.

Well done OP.

Great Book! I enjoyed it.

It fleshes out Genesis 6 - the story of the Sons of God that went in to the daughters of men.

What do U think about the Book of Jasher?

Original poster meant this topic for good. Please let's not act like Joseph's brothers.
We can't be found insulting ourselves on a Christian thread like this. If we do, what hope have the non-Christians?

I am going to start from the positive side of things and say that reading many translations of the Bible often help one to understand what a particular verse is saying. If U reading a KJV, having another translation like the AMP by ur side will be of help. But like one of the posters said, if U can spend ample time on meditation and ask the WHAT WHY WHEN HOW FOR-WHOM questions and willing to stay on it, the often challenging texts of the KJV will soon start making real meaning by the Spirit of God. In other words, if U have ample time to spend, U can stick to the KJV alone but if U need to quickly grab the text, U want to have another translation like the AMP by ur side.

That said, I am going to head over to the bad news. There is an on-going efforts to make the Bible suit the coming world leader (Antichrist), such that some verses of the Authorised Version that specifically applied to Jesus is made to apply to anybody. Jesus Christ is being gradually erased from some of the newer translations. If U really want to learn more about what I am saying, head over to YouTube.com and search for " Gail Riplinger New Age Bible Version" it's about 2hr 32 mins video. I was spell-bound when I first learned about this some 10months ago.Drop ur email add and I can forward U a soft copy of her book titled "New Age Bible Versions - An exhaustive documentation exposing the Message, Men and Manuscript moving Mankind to the Antichrist's One World Religion" In this book, she makes a case against the NIV, NKJV, NRSV, NAB, REB, RSV, CEV, TEV, GNB, LIVING, PHILLIPS, NEW JERUSALEM and NEW CENTURY Bibles. She also has the latest research supporting The Authorised King James Version.

Try and watch the video or get the book from me. U ll be shocked at what you will learn. The best part is that U can personally verify what she is presenting by having the KJV and one of these other versions(like the NIV) before U as U watch the vid or read the book. I have since thrown away my NIV after this discovery. Plz don't hate or criticize me for what I am presenting here, I encourage U to do this and see what U can come up with. Be like Berean Christians...

Nice one seyibrown...really nice one!

Pastor AIO: I am of the opinion that baptism (water) has a real effect on the spirit of the person being baptized and it is not 'only' symbolic.

Baptism is indeed symbolic.

Truthislife nailed it in his comment

truthislight: Romans 6:1-7

the principle of baptism is based on the basis of death and resurrection.

Dipping in water and bringing up.

Dying and resurrecting.

Death to former sins and resurrecting as a new person(free from sin) Ofcouse the wages of sin is death, at death you pay for the wages.

You can look up every occurrence of 'Baptism' in the Bible. Read the context and U will get a clear overall understanding. One person will get baptized and feel nothing while another will feel ecstatic, like something has happened to him on the inside. It is much like the different ways people receive salvation. Some break down and cry while some don't. Some in the presence of thousands of people in a crusade ground while some alone in their bedroom, and each of them had a genuine experience.
It is best and safe to believe what the Word of God says and stop where it stops and not allow our varying experiences add to or extrapolate the Word of God.

truthislight: John 5:28,29 =
resurrection of ALL(note, all the dead) in the grave will come out.

Both righteous and unrighteose.

Acts 17:31 = christ is the appointed judge for the judgement "day" (judgement "day". A day = 1000yrs 2pet 3:8. )

so, the judgement "day" is 1000yrs = Rev 20:4 and Rev 20:6. During which Rev 20:12,13. Will Come to pass.

The resurrected dead will be judged based on what?
Their passed deed? No.

The wages of sin is death Romans 6:23.

havent died, they have paid for their passed sins, Romans 6:7
they come out on a clean slate.

the resurrected ones will be judged based on what they will do during the 1000yrs judgement "day" when they will learn about christ and be given the opportunity withing the 1000yrs.

at the end, they either pass to eternal life or 2nd dead(dead without resurection)

those to be resurrected are known by almighty God.
Ofcouse not all those that have died that will be remembered by God. Some people though they never heard about christ were just corrupt in the heart. Isaiah 5:20.

Those that have heard, witness is served.

After judgment day, then there will be a clean human race that christ will hand over to God. 1corinth. 15:24-28

Then as it was in the begining with Adam, all of mankind will relate to God as their God. Rev 21:1-4.
Peace

This is a great contribution by truthislight. Thanks for taking the pain to respond.
Your comment my brother, suggests that the resurrection of the unjust will happen first, then the 1000yrs of Christ reign so that the unjust will have an opportunity to accept or reject Christ. Then finally their judgment described in Revelation 21. This is an option I have never really looked at in details. Thanks for suggesting that option. I will look at it in details.

Please some one with good knowledge of Escatology should respond to this question:

How will God judge those that died without ever hearing of Jesus Christ. For instance those that lived before the time of Christ and those that live in the remotest places of the earth where real missionary work has been done.

Thank you.

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