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personally, I'd rather you militants got a proper job like most ordinary people and stop issuing silly threats each time you are short of cash. Northerners should stay put. |
@queensmith, saying a bank is a bank, irrespective of its location, and that the protesters will not benefit personally either way, make no sense. it's the selfish focus on personal interests that got the country where it is today. the protesters are right to be concerned about the fate of their rural bank. across britain, there's usually hundreds of similar protests going on in rural communities concerning threats to village banks, post offices etc yet you want to educate us about your false protest free lifestyle in east london, which incidentally is one of the poorest parts of the united kingdom. also, you talk of the protesters 'appaulling' education, yet after your 'fantastic' education in 'world class' east london, you still can't spell appalling. shocking. sorry phone doesn't allow formatting. |
'noble government' 'esteemed president'. with people like you around, no wonder the country is struggling to make much progress. though not something I'd do personally, I absolutely support the rights of those who lash out at the greedy, incompetent, and fraudulent politicians who are raping this country. Strangely, the people you want us to worship/respect have zero respect for the tens of millions of impoverished nigerians whose lives they have ruined. I bet that matters little to you. |
Thanks sis. Always happy to see your contributions on a politics thread. The boys tend to be a little more civil to each other when we are around. Credit to them for that. |
Igbo's best bet is to focus on the SS, SE, and start formng alliances with the middlebelt, and significant parts of the north, and hope for a few votes from the SW. An Igbo shot at presidency that seeks to rely on a large number of votes from the SW, and ignores a lot of the north will fail. |
Bliss4Lyfe:David Mark is unlikely to win significant votes in the Southwest. Outside of Oyo & Ogun, PDP wont get much love in the SW. That said, a lot can change between now & 2015. Dont want to turn this into another tribal debate, but will Yorubas enthusiastically vote for Ngige, even if Tinubu says they should. Hmmn. Igbos didn't particularly vote for Abiola or Obasanjo in large numbers. These things have a way of repeating themselves, though one would wish they didnt. You saw how the number of SW voters dropped significantly during the Presidential elections. They had no feel for Ribadu even though he was ACN, and only grudgingly voted for GEJ once rumours went out that Tinubu/ACN prob wouldnt mind a vote for him. I personally dont believe the presidency is ACN's priority now, nor will it be come 2015. They will prob continue to focus on expanding their national reach through winning more state and national assembly seats, until they are strong enough to have good chance at the presidency. Maybe 2019. Of course if they sense an opportunity sooner, they will go for it. All said, 2015 should be interesting. |
Dis Guy:It's possible GEJ will use the machinery of state to help Mimiko (he delivered his state for GEJ in the presidential elections), but if you re suggesting the PDP as a party on the ground, how about this - the PDP is DEAD in Ondo State, patapata. They have zero on the ground now. People need to understand that in many parts of the SW/Edo, there's a genuine dislike of the PDP. Not that everyone believe ACN will deliver them, but they just dont want PDP at all cost. |
I dont see how the presenters are the problem. Adaba has a couple or so political programes each week, and they invite both govt's officials and the opposing side. Each gets same amount of time, though they dont sem to agree to appear at the same time. I listened to some of these programs and the Adaba presenter was always butting in and at pains to stop any form of personal attack on the governor or his officials. He just doesnt allow it. Same goes when the gov't side come on. He insist they address policy no people. I understand the presenters do try to be fair to both sides, but my source could be wrong. The problem is that these shadowy organisations (they never claim they are ACN) come to the program with amazing details and insight, the type that only someone close to the inner workings of govt would know. This has been putting the govt on the defence, and it happens week after week. I understand that details disclosed in a recent program (about 2 weeks ago) left Mimiko furious and convinced that some members of his cabinet must be leaking information to ACN. Guess what, the program aired on a Thursday, and Mimiko dessolved his entire 2-yr old cabinet on Friday. There were rumours he planned on dissolving the cabinet anyway, but I learnt the leak in the recent program was the final staw. This is like a heavyweight boxing fight where the overwhelming favourite is receiving persistent little jabs from the other guy. Nothing too serious to knock him down, but the jabs are persistent enough for the betting odds to start falling round after round. In the end the favourite will prob win, but boy, will he know that he has been in a fight. Mimiko' problem is that even as a sitting governor, he may not be able to outspend Messrs Tinubu. Must be a big headache for him. |
Also, there's been some kind of media war (via propaganda adverts) going on in the airwaves for about 6 weeks now, particularly on this same Adaba. Here's a summary of ACN's advert - Starts with: Eyin Omo Oodua, dua, dua (echo) Then something along the lines of - eminent Oodua indegines came together to form their own party (egbe tiwan tiwa) so we could all defend our people & values against insatiable vultures (my own interpretation). It ends along the lines of e ma ma je won ko wa lo ko eru (don't let them enslave us) ![]() Here's the Labour version - Eying Omo ipinle Ondo, do, do (echo again ) Beware of people whose only interest is to get their hands on our resources. Eranti pe awa la ni ohun ribibi ju ni ile Yoruba (Remember Ondo State is blessed with the most natural resources in Yorubaland. Eranti ti pe awa lan ni Koko ju ni orile de naijiria (Also rememeber we are the largest producer of Cocoa in Nigeria) Sugbon ni ojo eyinwa nigba ti won fe ko Koko House, sebi Ibadan ni won ko si (However, when they wanted to build Cocoa House, they built it in Ibadan, rather than in our state.Both adverts run on Adaba virtually every 30mins within a few mins interval of each other and this has been going on for several weeks. Both parties must be spending a fortune on these things, and the election is still more than a yr away. Mimiko has been spending a lot of money, like the ACN, on Adaba, and sending his henchmen to attack and respond to the alledged attacks from the ACN. I'm not sure why he's complaining now. On a pan-Yoruba level, it is interesting to see labour trying to use a 'them' and 'us' approach to awaken the indegines' fear about being dominated by Lagos, Ogun, and to a lesser extent Oyo with the risk that their resources (oil, bitumen, Cocoa will be used to develop these other states. All said, Mimiko appears to be doing well in the state. ACN should see Labour as a sister party & they should be collaborating . ACN does not need to win Ondo state by all means. |
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Truth is, Mimiko is feeling the heat for the first time since he came to power. Right up to the last election, he rode like an untouchable giant in the state's political terrain, and no one was surprised when Labour swept the National & House of Assembly elections, bar one House of Rep that went to PDP. Everything Mimiko touched turned into gold and ACN won no single seat accross the state. Since the elections however, shadowy groups of well educated communicators have been coming on the airwaves at Adaba (by far the most popular station in the state) to slowly & steadily raise questions about the Labour administartion. When this started 2 -3 months ago, no one batted an eyelid - they were thought to be wasting their time, since Mimiko popularly known as 'Iroko' was so popular, it was thought next yr's guber elections would be a formality. Then came the big thumping heavyweight fist of the ACN god - Messrs Tinubu. First, a rumour swept the state that Tinubu was building a mansion in Akure in preparation for next yr's governorship election battle. Couple of weeks later, another rumour swept the state that Tinubu was coming with billions. Some might doubt it, but folks in sleepy states like Ondo are a rather modest lot - they genuinely believe Tinubu is an evil genius who can turn water to wine ![]() Now, if you ask the same people who, a few months ago thought Mimiko was guaranteed a second term, whether the Acn has a good chance, they will tell you - hmn, my brother we think Mimiko will win, but with this Tinubu guy, hmn, anything can happen o ![]() I still think Mimiko will win. |
http://www.punchng.com/Articl.aspx?theartic=Art201108091211890 “Christians would use every legitimate means to fight and frustrate the introduction of Islamic Banking in Nigeria “Islamic Banking in Nigeria would be the beginning of Somaliasation of Nigeria”, the statement says in conclusion. Rev. Yunusa Nmadu Can this Islamic banking thing cause a civil war? Really? |
why are you so aggressive? you got issues? |
Agree, but the reality is that it's more difficult to legislate against hankypanky between consenting adults. The legislation is a good start. |
macayub:really? am not sure this is a major topic of discussion out there. And why are people obsessed with this term - 'heat up the polity.' You can't read a newspaper without coming across several apocalyptic warnings about 'heating up the polity.' ahgggrrh! |
Mods, you might want to put this on the front page. This matter goes to the root of some of the problems society faces today. |
I'd like to know more about this legislation, but I don't think it's as laughable as it appears at first sight. If it means men can be made to contribute financially towards the upkeep of their children, or possibly face jail (some men need that ) not bad. As with most legislation, this one will probably be rough at the edges, but if those edges can be ironed out once it's been in force for a few years, then good. Enforcing the law could be a problem - men who do these things aren't usually the most responsible members of society, so locating and prosecuting them could be a challenge. But let's have it on the Statute book nonetheless - if anything, it will serve as a deterrent to some. There's absolutely no excuse for fathering and abandonning a child. None whatsoever. I expect the usual abuse, mostly from irresponsible men ofcourse. Let's go! |
djustice: djustice:- Bola Ajibola - Mike Adenuga - Bola Ige - Femi Falana - Gani Fawehinmi and many more. Don't know much about Mr Tinubu's background, but let's temper anger and exuberance with facts. Difficult, I know. |
Bliss4Lyfe:'Unity' is not the priority right now. The 50yr-old unity dream has turned into a prolonged nightmare. What we need is leadership that will give us a confederation, or at the very least, true federalism. |
Kobojunkie: |
I expect there'll be a lot of resisitance to this, since most people don't like paying tax, particularly to corrupt politicians. I understand all that, but given the scale of the challenges in Lagos and accross the country, we need to look at other ways of raising revenue and move away from the scandalous over-dependence on inadequate oil revenue. Otherwise Lagos will continue to be unfit for habitation, for many. |
ekt_bear:Can you believe the muppet. |
Seun:Still waiting to read an intelligent post from you on this site. Looks like it's going to be a long wait. |
As a nuetral in this tribal ding dong, here's my take: It's easier to see or read about Awo's achievemnets, and I believe him to be the greatest indigenous administrator in Nigeria's history (my opinion). Zik is also an achiever of note but his achievements appear to be more vain-glorious. It's more about the offices he occupied rather than anything quantifiable and tangible. We can be proud of both. |
olas2u:I wouldn't be as cynical as that. Going by your logic, they would've blocked other land/property-related fees/charges that are currently in operation. |
buzugee:Good one ![]() |
Jenifa_:Lagos State has a good record of computerising large scale processes/data. I don't think this will be an obstacle. The only reason I can see for them not introducing the tax yet, is political. It could prove very unpopular. |
Negro, I agree with the suggestions that owner-occupied properties may be considered for exemption, particularly as many of these people are either elderly, retired or generally earn little or no income. But I dont understand the Yorubaland context. I am not asking that undeveloped land be taxed, nor are you entirely correct that somehow land ownership rights in Yorubaland are different from what they are in other parts of the country. Under the Land Use Act, all lands within Nigeria's territorial boundary are vested in the state. If you buy a land today and obtain a C of O, whether you are in Yorubaland or Kano, you are no more than an assignee. The legal owner (freehold) of the land remains the state. In the tru sense, you never actually own land in Nigeria, whether you are a king, commoner, Yoruba, or Efik. Back to point, I agree that rented property should be the focus of such tax. |
Lagos State's total annual revenue (IGR + Fed allocation etc) is around USD2 billion per year, which I think is way too low to deal with the myriad problems in the State, not least the massive infrastructural deficit. I am surprised that Lagos State does not tax property on an annualised basis. Perhaps it does in some areas, but I've never received any tax demand on my property. As a house owner, I would happily pay some form of additional tax (perhaps 10% of my annual rental income) as my contribution to the coffers of the state. Yes, we know there is corruption and waste in the system as it is, but we also know that the Lagos State govt is making some genuine progress. Ofcourse, we need to continue to seek greater accountability of govt. Although the current revenue profile of the State is superior to most other States, I believe more revenue is required to execute the sort of projects that will significantly improve living standards accross the state. Life need not be about 'me' me,' how about 'us' 'us,' - ie the those who have a little should contribute some of their lots to making the wider society better. I know people dont like paying taxes, but how else are we going to get out of the current quagmire unless we all become a little less selfish? |
So, a combined capacity (Lagos, Bayelsa, Kogi, Warri, Kaduna, PH) will take us to around 1 million barrels of refining capacity. Does anyone know how much we presntly consume per day? The economics (profits) of refinning are not that great, so I assume there something other than profit in it for the Chinese. Maybe it's their way of having a big presence in the Nigerian oil economy, since the Western big boys (Shell, Chevron etc) appear to have exploration on lock down. Also, having a refinnery here will secure a nice little supply line of refined products to China. How this will work for a private investor remains a mystery. Will the govt maintain petrol subsidy in the long run, in which case the subsidy will go to operators of private refineries (massive opportunity for corruption), or will they remove subsidy all together, and allow refiners to squeeze millions of motorists by charging 120, may be 150 naira per litre? It seems inevitable that this petrol price honeymoon tha we've enjoyed for decades will come to an end in the not distant future. |
^^^ Seems like my BBC link isn't working. Here's an excerpts from the report of a woman convicted for loud intercourse-related noise: Recorder (Magistrate) Jeremy Freedman, sitting with two magistrates, rejected her claim that she could not help making the loud noise during sex. He said: "We are in no doubt whatsoever about the level of noise that can be heard in neighbouring properties, in the street and in the back lane. "It certainly was intrusive and constituted a statutory nuisance. It was clearly of a very disturbing nature and it was also compounded by the duration - this was not a one-off, it went on for hours at a time. "It is further compounded by the frequency of the episode, virtually every night." 'Shouting and screaming' Next door neighbour Rachel O'Connor told the court she was frequently late for work because she overslept having been awake most of the night because of the noise. She said: "The noise sounds like they are both in considerable pain. I cannot describe the noise. I have never ever heard anything like it." The court heard Sunderland City Council recorded levels of up 47 decibels. ![]() One wonders what the husband had to say about his contribution to this mess. |
Kobojunkie:While it is right to debate the prospects of this legislation, the principle underpinning the law is noble and should be supported |
tend to be a little more civil to each other when we are around. Credit to them for that.
(my own interpretation). It ends along the lines of e ma ma je won ko wa lo ko eru (don't let them enslave us) 