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The MOSSAD brings the following : -

Their intelligence gathering and processing is second to none . . .  

Their stealth mode of infiltrating the enemy is second to none. . .

Their sophistication and brutality in tackling terrorism is second to none . . .

A faceless Boko Haram  . . needs a precise stealth procedure to to take them out . . 
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Jmaine,

MOSSAD is hyped! I want to say over-hyped!!

They were part of the total force in Iraq and this fact was not disclosed because it would embarass their hyped reputation. They also fought Lebanon and lost the war. Recently they assassinated Hamas leadership in a cross country plot but their cover was blown inspite of the multiple layers of disguise, identity swaps and all what not.

So much of their prowess is only on paper and cannot consistently be matched on ground.
In any case, we don't need a foreign help. For what our soldiers get paid and their perks and pension, they have not earned the medals on their chestm . . . . .here is the chance, the proving ground to pin a 4-star epaulette.[/quote]Dude try to differentiate your lemons from oranges. Mossad is not the Israeli army, it is an Intelligence outfit, so what's all this talk about wars ?
Secondly, they did kill their hamas target before their cover was blown, didn't they ? So i guess their objective was achieved.

[quote author=edoyad link=topic=715006.msg8745992#msg87459 92 date=1311078894]Goodness, are we still on this topic ? Personally i'd prefer an invitation to the CIA or mossad to help improve on whatever secret policing we have going on. But then again, the big word, FUNDS.[/quote]https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=7 15006.msg8745992#msg8745992

Now what took you lovely jews so long ? I've always loved your deadly efficiency in handling the Arabs.

agitator:
almost all federal and most state salaries are paid through banks

and some people will tell you on nairaland how their parents worked hard to send them abroad for better education.

dude that's just unfair, some parents actually worked hard to do it.

you mean boko haram can strike as far as scandanavia too ? Nig govt is so useless

only in nigeria, a govt that can't pay 18k minimum wage but can keep a private jet for one man and his friends

[quote author=senbonzakura_kageyoshi link=topic=718409.msg8767615#msg8767615 date=1311339872]then who has been collecting the salaries? We are not interested in hearing that ghost workers were detected. We want to know what has been done to those that registered such workers and has been collecting the salaries alloted to them.[/quote]

logica:
OK, I read this all the time and I wonder how many people have so far been prosecuted for FRAUD. Or is it just to remove dummy records? Who put them there and who had been benefiting from them?

That's simple question, who're the people responsible ? If lever brothers or mtn discover they have ghost workers, surely they'll know who to hang. So who will hang over this ?his ?

In the weeks since the April
2011 elections, I have had the
difficult task of relating with
a lot of young Nigerians who
passionately believe that
nothing can be done to make Nigeria work. I have found
myself “defending” Nigeria at
great discomfort. For these
young, idealistic, and I must
add, patriotic Nigerians, the
solution to all our problems lies in carving up Nigeria into
several countries.

It's called facing reality bro, something many elderly Nigerians refuse to do.

Former Finance Minister, Mr.
Olusegun Aganga, said at the
weekend that the Federal
Government had removed a
total of 43,000 "ghost
workers" from the payroll of its ministries, departments
and agencies (MDAs) within
the last one year. Aganga, who spoke with
journalists in Lagos shortly
after receiving the Young
Men's Christian Association
(YMCA) award for exemplary
public office life, said this was achieved through the
implementation of the
Integrated Personnel and
Payroll Information System
(IPPIS). He said the payroll of the Federal Government before
IPPIS implementation had
been 112,000 for the 36 MDAs. Aganga pointed out that the
implementation of IPPIS was
part of the efforts to reduce
recurrent expenditure of the
government. "As part of the Federal
Government's effort to reduce
the level of recurrent
expenditure, in particular,
personnel cost, which
represents more than 50 per cent of recurrent expenditure,
we have deepened what we
called the IPPIS system. IPPIS
system, which is biometric, is
a system where the data of
every employee of government has to be
captured and your payment is
made directly into your bank
account. The nominal payroll
of the Federal Government
was supposed to be 112,000 employees. Based on what we
did through the IPPIS, we
were able to remove 43,000
from the payroll. This will lead
to significant savings for the
Federal Government," he said. The former finance minister
said the government had to
trim its personnel cost, which
formed a major part of the
unnecessary costs distorting
the country's expenditure pattern. Personnel cost increased, he
disclosed, from N850 billion to
N1.3 trillion between 2009 and
2010. . . . . . .

allafrica.com/stories/201107121269.html

This was just in the 1st of 3 phases.

Nna men ! this kind thread dey NL na him nobody tell me ? See our Jamo queen dey try blow pidgin .

Ok na, guy i understand your plight well well o o, all man must settle down to be person "daddy daddy" one day. That period of freedom is necessary o, u go enter house any time u want; go out anytime u want; stay out and sleep for friend place without need to inform anybody; you no dey accountable to nobody. But we have to grow one day whether we like am or not.

You de remind me of me, because i be very nice guy, that one come mak u a nice guy too. So if you intend graduate to very nice guy, you go marry ur love and raise ur pikin. Me i no go advice u to check whether the pikin na yours or not o, what if you come discover say no be your own ? . Oyibo say wetin you no know nor fit kill you

sammyzacks:
Nigerian Government should put an end to all these confusion please.

bros is this ish for real ? Which kind wahala be this again now ? Chai !

rotf , ileke honestly e no go better for you . I actually expected to come in see something in here

They keep saying this but man never feels the effect of this growth. I mean, the price of Heineken, Harp and Cow tail peppersoup keeps increasing, when will GDP increase reach that area ?

Well it's connected to the extreme poverty that's breeding extremist tendencies. Why would any one resist immunization aimed at polio eradication ?

FORENSIC FORCE: How
poverty fuels
extremism By Salisu Suleiman July 18, 2011 01:17PMT print email S A few years ago, former Central Bank Governor ‘Comical' Chukwuma Soludo reeled out the results of studies which clearly indicated that the north east geopolitical region of Nigeria was the poorest and least developed. Is there any coincidence with the fact that the same region has now become the haven of extremist groups posing serious security threats to the entire country? Why are we seeing almost daily attacks and loss of lives and property from Bauchi, Gombe to Maiduguri? That Nigeria as a country is facing unprecedented political, social and economic crises is not in doubt. While each state has specific challenges, the north east region faces the risk of disintegration from the
activities of extremist groups that seek to bring about violent change. The role of the region's political elite and fraudulent governors who have systematically narrowed
the economic and political space to the exclusion of the majority, who wallow in poverty, unemployment, insecurity, cannot be discounted. Taking advantage of youth unemployment, the Gombe State government supported the ‘kallare' group; Bauchi State gave tacit support to the ‘sara suka', while the Borno government openly related with the ‘ecomog' group which directly or indirectly metamorphosed into the ‘boko haram'. The forces fanning the flames of these extremist activities are fired not by any ‘jihadist' agenda as much as by failure of governments at all levels to
create economic opportunities.
All that people want are openings for honest work; markets for farm produce; hospitals when ill; schools that provide real education and security of life and property. But the political elite could not fathom the consequences of ignoring these legitimate demands of their people and chose to play politics with the issues. So poverty, unemployment and loss of hope became the norm. Bustling marketplaces and businesses became deserted and empty, echoing with the silence of inactivity. Agriculture, which used to employ large numbers of people, remained largely subsistence and dependent on the vagaries of weather.234next.com/csp/cms/sites/Next/Opinion/5731278-182/story.csp

there's an argument i'm finding real interesting here . Why ? Because i have lost a brother to road accident before and am resolved to never again get into another car in my life. Again i say:

groups posing serious security threats to the entire country? Why are we seeing almost daily attacks and loss of lives and property from Bauchi, Gombe to Maiduguri? That Nigeria as a country is facing unprecedented political, social and economic crises is not in doubt. While each state has specific challenges, the north east region faces the risk of disintegration from the
activities of extremist groups that seek to bring about violent change. The role of the region's political elite and fraudulent governors who have systematically narrowed
the economic and political space to the exclusion of the majority, who wallow in poverty, unemployment, insecurity, cannot be discounted. Taking advantage of youth unemployment, the Gombe State government supported the ‘kallare' group; Bauchi State gave tacit support to the ‘sara suka', while the Borno government openly related with the ‘ecomog' group which directly or indirectly metamorphosed into the ‘boko haram'. The forces fanning the flames of these extremist activities are fired not by any ‘jihadist' agenda as much as by failure of governments at all levels to
create economic opportunities.
All that people want are openings for honest work; markets for farm produce; hospitals when ill; schools that provide real education and security of life and property. But the political elite could not fathom the consequences of ignoring these legitimate demands of their people and chose to play politics with the issues. So poverty, unemployment and loss of hope became the norm. Bustling marketplaces and businesses became deserted and empty, echoing with the silence of inactivity. Agriculture, which used to employ large numbers of people, remained largely subsistence and dependent on the vagaries of weather.234next.com/csp/cms/sites/Next/Opinion/5731278-182/story.csp

loyika:
Arsene - Hello is this so and so club
Club Rep - Yes how may we help you
Arsene - well my name is Arsene
Club Rep - Oh My God as in Arsene Wenger
Arsene - yeah it's me
Club Rep - How may we help you Mr Wenger
Arsene - i want to inquire about a particular player of yours called
Club Rep - Ok
Arsene - How much is he going for if we were interested
Club Rep - well err 16 mil
Arsene - Last price please
Club Rep - well we can only go down to 14 mil and that's the final price
Arsene - Click!!
Club Rep - Hello, hello sorry Mr Wenger did you hear me? HELLO IS ANYONE THERE!!

Arsene (5 mins later at the Arsenal press conference) - Well when we find the player(s) we need we will buy.

lol. I know you didn't come up with this .

98trn kobo you mean

ikooko:
Mr knowledge, what has Nigeria intelligence industry done to avert the numerous security challenges in the country to the extent of security threat to Police HQ? perhaps you mean to say that their jurisdiction did not cover such intelligence areas? Stop dwelling on the principle of intelligence and wake up to reality.

Are you one of them? You may need to look at my previous post before you respond. Please educate and update us.

Even if he's an intelligence man, do you really expect him to reveal it here ?

And back to your question, what did the US intelligence industry or whatever do to avert 9/11 ? These were foreigners who received flight training in the US before using that same training to attack same country.
How about the Mumbai bombings last month, what did the Indians do to prevent that ?
You talk as if this intelligence information is a guaranty that every adversity can be prevented.

Goodness, are we still on this topic ? Personally i'd prefer an invitation to the CIA or mossad to help improve on whatever secret policing we have going on. But then again, the big word, FUNDS.

tunnytox:
Of what use is the intelligent outfit if we have one? the Nigeria police can't even process a criminal, secure a crime scene, gather evidence, lift fingerprints from crime scene, have no credible criminal database, have no capacity to use forensic science in solving crime, can't trace a criminal using their mobile phone records, staff members are barely litrate with little or no relevant training all to mention a few. Until we get these basics sorted it can be concluded that Nigeria have absolutely no security of any kind all we have is some uniformed men terrorising helpless Nigeria and being used solely for the advantage of the elite.

There we go again, another poster who wants to have a 1st class security with a fourth world economy. Let me paint a picture, again, for you guys. How much do you spend on :
1. Training ?
2. Equipment ?
3. Remuneration ?
4. Technology ?

To make matters worse the peanuts you spend on your security is embezzled by politicians. So tell me again how do we even attain the levels of the South Africans, not to mention 1st world countries whom you're all so eager to come here and mention ?

kulutempa:
Don't make me laugh. What about the billions of Naira spent every year on "security votes". All the money in the world will not make a difference to your intelligence capability if there is no drive or motivation to achieve results. That, more than anything else, is the difference between the 419 operative with a computer and a keyboard, and a pepper soup drinking, ashawo chasing, SSS operative.

how many billion naira exactly ? One billion naira is just over six million dollars, that's not enough to buy the scrap of the helicopter that crashed on Osama's fence. And FYI , it's from beer drinking and ashawo chasing that police gather intelligence, or haven't you seen a James Bond or any other spy movies before ?

kulutempa:
@ocelot 2006, I see your point, but then again Nigerians are not that dim witted when it comes to getting what they want from anywhere in the world. If you consider how our 419 operatives sometimes lure their victims to Lagos and invite them to government ministries and departments complete with bogus officials, you have to doff your hat to them. Now if only our intelligence operatives can show the same creativity and resourcefulness in intelligence gathering, Nigerians would be serious players in the spying business.

And where exactly will the funding for this resourcefulness come from , you ?

kulutempa:
You are quite right that Nigeria has three intelligence arms just like the Israelis. However that is where the similarity ends. Comparing Nigerian intelligence agencies to the Israeli outfits is like comparing a bicycle without a handlebar , to a fighter jet. And that is being charitable. In my opinion the Israelis would hear it loud and clear in Tel Aviv if anyone so much as farts at Aso Rock. Now, I am dead serious. They are that good.

ok let's put this in perspective. How much exactly does your country spend on defence/intelligence ? Do you how much the mission to get Osama cost ? You want your defence system to operate like a fighter jet as against the bicycle it's currently operating like but you keep giving it bathroom slippers funding ?
The US probably spends more on defence than your national budget so don't go there mister ? Even little Israel spends far than you do.

ocelot2006:
It's a pity that you think so. Yes, like all government agencies, the SSS has its flaws. But I will vouch for it ANY DAY. At the height of the Niger-Delta crises, covert operators of the SSS and undercover officers from the Police were solely responsible some most of the military successes achieved. People tend to hear more about the raids carried out by either the Army or NPF MOPOL composite units of the JTF. What they don't know is that the success of these raids were wholly dependent of the actions of these brave men who were responsible for the covert infiltration of the various militant or cult groups, live under harsh conditions, and identify high value targets, arms supply routes, arms caches.

And long before the start of the Boko Haram menace, the SSS foresaw it coming. The service was responsible for the initial arrests of the group's late leader, but the Abuja High Court acquitted him.

guy why are you wasting your time explaining this to some of these donkeys and chimps  loitering on the pages of NL. Their ignorance of these basic issues can be so infuriating sometimes. No wonder people like Atiku think young people cant rule this country

slimshay:
Edoyad jus one question. Did you think we will conquer the EPL when we won the first match 4-0. . . . . . . . . . . . . , . .yeah I thot so.

Abeg folks should lite a blunt jare.

dude you're missing the point. It's not about winning or losing a preseason, it's the fact that the first goal we concede in the new season is from a set piece. Don't you understand ? A fricking SET PIECE for heaven's sake. If it was a penalty or Tiote screamer i'd be more comfortable believe me.

Guys i bet you there's no divide between the aspiration of the leaders of the middlebelt and the followers. It's the same way Rotimi, Peter Obi or Tinubu will shout one Nigeria on NTA but we know how their families feel about idea.

eldee:
@Hannie

Bros abeg go siddon if you no watch match jare.
Beginning to sound like the English press already.

But that's a very valid point. The fundamental difference between Messi and those guys is how they were also able to lift their countries, virtually single handedly into glory. Pele, Maradona and Zidane were just out of this world in terms of inspiring their national teams

loyika:
The Great ONE (Johan Cruyff) Has spoken;

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/transfer-news/Barcelona-should-pay-Arsenal-Cesc-Fabregas-asking-price-says-Johann-Cruyff-article770889.html

Simple really, BARCA PAY UP OR bleep OFF!!

Other interesting articles.

http://www.arsenalnewsreview.co.uk/news/2133/30/Wenger-works-with-antiquated-criteria-for-success-in-mind/

and

http://www.fabians.org.uk/debates/life-chances-and-equality/football-social-mobility

Yes i know it's only Preseason, but come the bleep on!! Conceding from a Set Piece again JEEZ!! Somethings will never change

GOONER 89

P.S. Good to see the Argies being knocked out though

Please help me tell them. We can see the same thing unfolding right before our very eyes and they say no cause for alarm. Isn't that what pre-season matches are meant for in the first place ?

http://www.tribune.com.ng/sun/index.php/front-page-articles/4515-boko-haram-borno-gov-opens-up-explains-why-state-is-fertile-for-sect-says-region-is-worlds-poorest-names-sects-base-traces-crisis-to-imposition-of-minority-over-majority-opinion
Governor of  Borno State,  Alhaji Kashim  Shettima, has shed light on why the state is  conducive for activities of the Boko Haram  sect terrorizing the state and other  neighbouring ones. The governor, who traced the history of Islam, fundamentalism and economic challenges of  the state, disclosed these in a statewide  broadcast to the people of the state on  Saturday. He said the World Bank had described the  region of the world to which the state and  North-East Nigeria fall as the poorest and  most challenged parts of the world, a  development that makes the area fertile  activities of such dreaded sects. “The World Bank has described the central  region of the Savannah-Sudan, comprising of  the areas covered by the North-East Political  Zone of Nigeria, the Republic of Chad, Eastern  portion of Niger Republic, Northern Cameroons and the Dafur Region of the Republic of Sudan, as being one of the poorest regions on earth.

@OP, have you seen the article above ? What this means is that the northern part of this country will soon be like darfur or Somalia.

yahyus:
MARGINALIZATION?
It's only when the issue of governorship pops up that you will cry for being marginalized. It may interest you to know that“majority rules“ goes a universal principle of democracy accepted by advance Democracies of Europe and America. When Makarfi was the governor he tried by all available means to please the southern kaduna people. Because after his local government, is southern kaduna he gave his attention and executed many projects most and abondoned Zaria and central Kaduna. It's also visible in workforce; simply check kaduna state workers statistics, one will never believe it's a state of 78% vs 22%.

Kaduna state's population statistics shows 78% hausa vs 22% for the rest ? this is the funniest thing i've probably heard in my life. Same way Nigeria's population
shows 80% hausa i guess. That's why you people never let this country have accurate census figures or agree to national identity card scheme. Just in the last elections alone, the number of people that voted in the elections that made Esther Nenadi a senator from southern kd alone were more than the number that partook in gubernatorial elections in many states.

Up to date when one goes to any of the state ministries or hospitals, he will definately ask a question "where are the Hausas?" The people testified themselves by singing a song in a church (in a town called kachia) describing him as “jinin yesu kiristi“ means “he's from jesus family“.

Dude why are you exposing yourself like this ? Who are the people going to school to become to become doctors, nurses and qualified professionals ? You refuse your children education and expect them to miraculously turn out to be an employed professionals in the future ? Please tell me what you've been sniffing .

He even promised to give them power if not because of the pressure mounted on him by his people.
Namadi Sambo made sure that he rigged Yakowa back to power e

^^

The father of Costa Rica striker Joel Campbell has told Costa Rican sports website  Al Dia  that the  player’s club have agreed a deal with Arsenal  worth $1.5 m (£930 ,000). Humberto Campbell says that the deal will be  finalised today (Sunday), with Saprissa set for a  final meeting with Arsenal’s envoy, Richard Law.  Campbell has agreed a five-year contract,  including provision for him to wear his preferred  number 12  shirt - currently unoccupied at  Arsenal. Whether or not Campbell joins up with the squad  this season will be dependent on if he obtains a  work permit.  He has not played the 70 % of  international games required, so would have to  receive a “special talent” visa. Having followed  the deal all week on  Gunnerblog , I’d be quite pleased if this went  ahead.  That said, it’s a punt on a prodigy rather  than proven talent.  More reliable  reinforcements will be needed if we’re going to  be a force this coming season. Hopefully Saprissa themselves, who are yet to  make serious comment on the story, will soon  confirm a deal has been reached.

saw this ish on gunner blog pertaining to campbell's transfer.

About Clichy case, well, no be today. That's what they all say when they leave, until two seasons later when it becomes visible that weren't all that afterall. Honestly I'm beginning to despise all these French speaking players.

revolt:
THEY SAY THEY WANT SOMEONE THTLL LEAD THEIR TRIBE OUT OF ABOKI GRIP THERE WAS A PROGENITOR OF THE ARTS OF TRIBAL POLITICS SO THEY NEED SOMEONE TO EMPLOY HIS PROFESSIONAL TACTICS.WHEN IT COMES TO STAESMANSHIP NO ONE SPKS OF HE. TRUTH BE TOLD NO ONE OUTCLASSES HIM IN HIS ARTS OF, U KNOW

could you help us with an english translation of what you just posted ?