₦airaland Forum

ImembaN:
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See bro...my father went to war he fought on biafra side...(he was a teenager then...so he was BIAFRA spy)...

During the civil war Biafra was disintegrated into two rival groups...(biafra 1 and biafra 2)...
Biafra 1 was led by the Anambra troops... while biafra 2 was led by Ngwa and Mbaise troops...
This two groups were fighting themselves... but the all paid allegiance to OJUKWU...
What caused the split was that biafra 1 wanted to invade the present day Akwaibom, Cross River, Bayelsa and Port Harcourt and conduct an ethnic cleansing... because their were indigenes of the above-mentioned State that we are supporting Nigerian troops ...
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They eventually invade bayelsa and akwa ibom and this angered biafra 2...
This marked the beginning of the Fall of the biafra during the civil war......

Can you just go away. Yyeske. Can't you see all your gimmicks here are not working?

ChinenyeN:
This is truly unbelievable, Ekealterego. Three Ngwa people have independently expressed (to varying degrees of intensity) the idea of Ngwa people being suspicious of Igbo, but it is I (who hasn’t even said anything controversial) that you want to point at and dismiss. It’s pretty clear to me that you are falling into the same trap of making assumptions about who I am and what I believe. This same trap has been doing Igbo people on this platform for over a decade.

See bros, you are a loner. You speak as if no Igbo person know Ngwa..

After all your years shouting hoarse, can't you see that what you are doing is a lost mission? Give up already.

Let me throw you a simple challenge.

Bkayy, Slayerforever so you can just see a simple experiment. I am willing to bet with ChinenyeN.

Enter Ngwa Rant HQ and go to Ngwa unity Front. Go and type.

"Ngwa are not Biafra", "Ngwa needs to be alone" or whatever.

She will be booted out immediately. Just try and sneak in, 99% of their prayers, discussions are either about Biafra, MNk or Abia politics.

ChinenyeN is a lone voice.

SaintBishop:
The op is not Igbo because he speaks the truth? Fvcking clown.
And for your info, ijaws will and will always involved ourselves in unwanted lost Igbo Jews from israel business because,you are always found in involving in our business let it skin into your Igbo skull Okoro.

Everyday minority wahala. Go and sort out your 4 LGAs in Bayelsa.

Ngwa alone is larger than the whole Ijo. Bayelsa have only 4 Ijo LGAs while Ngwa alone have like 8 LGAs.

Dey respect your mate.

Ijawblooded:
Igbos that are Nembe slaves? Nembe is not Igbo but Igbos' slave master.

No, Ijos were Igbo subjects and they came to worship the Aros... if not for the Aro Igbos, Ijos would be extinct today.

Read this excerpt from 1900. Your fathers were drinking ogogoro worshiping Aro priests so they won't go extinct.

Now, thank us for saving your souls.

Captain8, Giftibo and the other monikers you use.
What is happening?

What is the Constable Ditari doing about this problem? Bayelsa waters is now a hydrocarbon mess.

BKayy:
What is happening here is exactly the problem with Abia state. The tribalism I have been advocating against.
I wonder why they haven't seen that this tribalism is the main problem why their state is in shambles.

Honestly, left for me I will advocate that they repartition the state except that I don't see much difference except if Ngwá might be partitioned with Ikwerre but that will bring about the case of two captain in one ship.

I don't know what brought about this Shameless tribalism they allowed to eat deep within them.

Mr ChinenyeN, I have two question for you.

1. Do you see this tribalism within you guys in Abia ending anytime soon?
2. Don't you think that this tribalism is the rock blocking the development in Abia state?

Are you seriously taking what this one is saying here seriously? She is just an outlier in Alangwa. There is nothing like tribalism in Abia state.. I can tell you for free.. There might be politics played by politicians but tribalism is nothing.

Except maybe Ngwa, Ndoki and the Aros, there is no one big clannish homogenous sub group in Abia state...
There is no strong cohesive sense to a particular sub-group large enough to offset anything. Even the people they call, "Ndi Ogbo" (the "Old Bende people) that seem to have a cabal of politicians headed by OUK do not have the power to even use tribalism as a tool to power.

The subgroups with a sense of clan unity like Ngwa and Ndoki do not have any strong political might despite their size.

You have to understand, Abia state politics is more like a party cabal rather than a community or tribe based power.
The Bende people for instance do not have a strong cohesive attachment to "Bende" as a cluster but rather to communities or alliance of communities like the Igbere/Alayi/Item. and sometimes you can't even tell where it starts and end. For instance, the Igbere/Alayi/Item cluster speak similar language and behave in similar fashion to the Abariba in Ohafia LGA and feel way more kinship with them than to the Itumbuso people in the same Local government.

Politics there is about the stomach and usually no tribe have such a great influence. If that was the case, Ngwa would have been governor since the inception of the state. Even despite the alliance with Ndoki in their "Ukwa la Ngwa", they still did not have much power to change much.

You have to understand again, Abia state is a very Igbocentric state. Aba is a confluence of many Igbos and the Igbo consciousness burns there more than anywhere else... If another MNK rises tomorrow, trust me it will be from those axis. Probably from Arochukwu, cos those guys are burning and just seeking an opportunity to turn the trajectory of Igbo history.

Don't be deceived by ChinenyeN, if any Ngwa man discover what she is saying here, they might forgive her but they might eat you for thinking the rubbish she parrots here is true.

...and don't be deceived by the inneptitude of the governors, if you come to Igbo villages/towns from Igbere, Alayi to Abariba, you will marvel at the cluster of massive housing projects there.

ChinenyeN:
Perhaps you are not getting it. Of course my response is dismissive, because I what I’m saying to you is that you are wrongly assuming what the basis for my views are. Because if this wrong assumption, we cannot actually have a conversation, because we will ultimately not even be on the same page from the start. You are bringing up a number of ancillary things that do not represent my position.

If you really want a substantive response from me, you would first examine the core of my view, being self-determination. This is the only thing I’ve been saying. Everything else about enemies, differences, uniqueness, etc is not my actual point.

Well, the problem is, Ndi Ngwa are way too Igbocentric to go towards the direction you are seeking. Too stubborn to even go towards the direction you seek. Another problem you might encounter is that Ngwaland is now too cosmopolitan and weaves well into the ethnic progress.
Ngwa is too obsessed with IPOB and MNK to even entertain your dreams. Generally they don't share that sentiments.
Ngwa are also one of the most Igbotic group out there, most behave like Abaribe. I guess this is what you are rebelling against.

ChinenyeN:
Perhaps you are not getting it. Of course my response is dismissive, because I what I’m saying to you is that you are wrongly assuming what the basis for my views are. Because if this wrong assumption, we cannot actually have a conversation, because we will ultimately not even be on the same page from the start. You are bringing up a number of ancillary things that do not represent my position.

If you really want a substantive response from me, you would first examine the core of my view, being self-determination. This is the only thing I’ve been saying. Everything else about enemies, differences, uniqueness, etc is not my actual point.

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What do you mean by "self-determination? Maybe you can elaborate?

Democrats have always been terrorist supporting party. That's why they installed a corpse as president of Nigeria while supervising the killings in Libya and Egypt.
All the progress the Republicans made to protect minority Christian groups in the North and Middle belt is now lost by a click of the button by sleepy Joe.

ChinenyeN:
It's always easy to spot someone who hasn't engaged in any real analysis of Igbo culture, language, history or identity. I encourage you to engage yourself in some research. In particular, I am recommending the following works:

Anthropology and colonial administration in Southeastern Nigeria by A. E. Afigbo (in fact, the entirety of the Ropes of Sand sindication, if you can find copies of them from Nsukka).

The role of ethnic unions in the development of Southern Nigeria by Austin Ahanotu

Among the Ibos by Thomas Basden

Bible Translation and Language Elaboration: The Igbo Experience by Uchenna Oyali

The Ibo Language report from the Archive of the Colonial Office in the U.K.

Research Work in the Ibo Region from the Archive of the Colonial Offic in the U.K. (there are at least two of these.

In Search of an Igbo Identity by Dmitri van den Bersselaar

Report on Ibo Language by Mr. N. W. Thomas, 1913 from the National Archives of Nigeria

Report on Ibo Union 1938 - 1955 from the National Archives of Nigeria

In fact, there are many more that I can share, but this should keep you busy initially and help you expand your learning and understanding of Igbo culture, language, history and identity.

The problem is that you assume that these are exclusive knowledge of yours.

Now, I see where your problem lies, you don't actually read history or much aware of cultural evolution no understand the evolution of ethnic cohesion. And even if you know, you do not know how to apply that knowledge.

For all history, no ethnicity started as one homogenous, mono-cultural creation. However, things events in history like a common enemy, famine, rise of a dominant religion or powerful empire can arise to bind these people together. However an underlying factor behind the success of such ethnic powers and it's sustainability is usually "language".

"Italy" were just kingdoms with no sense of national cohesion until the rise of powers in Europe made them see the need to unite based on the similarities that bind them together. Same with the German ethnic group. The English people understand their differences very well.. from the Northener in Newcastle to the Scouser to the Southerner in London.
However, England as a cohesive ethnic group conquered the world.

ChinenyeN:
Ekealterego, you've interacted with me on this platform long enough to know that I don't care about this argument of "hide conversations from enemies on this platform" or "they will spare you because of claiming a 'slight difference'". Please, you should know better than that.

I obviously believe that anyone who want to attack a person or people will simply attack a person or people. Whether or not the victim thinks themselves exempt is of no consequence, because the aggressor doesn't care what the victim thinks. So whether Ngwa is "Igbo" or Ngwa is "not Igbo", any aggression on the southeast will invariably affect Ngwa. That is obvious.

But that is irrelevant for me, because "slight difference" is not the basis by which I make my statements. You, and many others, should know this.

Now, let me respond to some strange comments by you.


Ngwa isn't even a homogenous group. Please, don't expend your breath on this amateur point. My views have nothing to do with homogeneity.


Again, I don't care about this need by some Igbo people like yourself to "hide" or be overly concerned by "enemies on this platform".


I already explained this. Anyone that wants to be an aggressor will be an aggressor. "Slight difference" or "big difference" doesn't change anything.


This is an amateur argument. I've already said that the Igbo-speaking communities should be free to maintain their own ethnic identies. What makes you think I will be concerned if Aro decides to do so?



This is one of the least insightful comments I have ever heard from you on this platform. That said, it seems you want to position yourself as someone who is familiar with Ngwa history and oral tradition. Left with me, I will say that this one statement shows you really don't know anything about Ngwa history and oral traditions, but I am a man who likes to give people the benefit of the doubt. So how about it? Do you want to dive into this topic and compare notes? I'm open if you are.


Amateur argument. Again, you know that my stance isn't about "uniqueness" and "slight difference". It is simple self-determination. I urge you to not forget that.


Another amateur argument made by Igbo people. There is this need to compare one's situation to someone elses, as though it matters. I've said it before on this platform, trying to draw a comparison of the Igbo context to another, unrelated community's context is a useless endeavor. Why? Because at the end of the day, the Igbo communities you are discussing are under no obligation to follow another ethnic community's model. The only thing that matters is the actions Igbo communities take with respect to their different desires of self-determination.


Again, comparing someone's context to someone elses. It's amateur. Perhaps you aren't in Yoruba circles, but they disgrace and argue among themselves a lot.


I remember this conversation. I still think all that bandwith was (at the end of the day) well-spent. Sometimes we only have the luxury of evaluating things after the fact/in hindsight. When I evaluate the development that occurred on NL, because of my willingness to consistently challenge the lack of self-reflection, lack of honesty and general Igbo propanda here on this platform, I am pleased.

I had hoped for a more insightful reply but 90% of your replies gave no answers but were dismissive of hard facts.

When I discuss, I draw parallels and give examples. You know why, arguments, logics, statistics and progress all draws from Relativism. When discussing about "ethnicity", you draw parallel and take your example and prove your points based on "ethnicity". It is commonsense 101.

No one is holding you from speaking up for your people and culture. In fact it is good and great but you guys just lack the wisdom, maturity or the self-awareness to navigate such discussions on a platform like this. If anyone needs to mine negative information about Yoruba groups and their intra-ethnic dynamics, you will probably need to disguise, sneak into their tightly locked platforms before you can hold on to anything. On the other hand, all we need to do to mine same information about you guys is just to type any of your names and that generation of Igbo nairalanders. It was such a disgrace what we witnessed then.

On the ABA naming issues, yes, maybe you will need to dig deeper into Igbo history. "ABA" is not the only "ABA" based place-names in Igbo land. There are 1000s of them in Alaigbo. The most popular ones being, ABAtete, ABAgana, ABAkiliki. These were all Aro or Aro-allied originated or influenced settlements.

These are not the only common names they have. The Abam groups too share this same history with Aros because they worked together too especially in the establishment of new settlements.

The "NDI" based names were also common features of Abam, Aros and to some extent ohofia settlements. These were used to distinguish the place they settled in from the UMUs and AMAs. usually, Igbos would refer people outside their ingroups as "Ndi". These Ndis are usually smaller hamlets or villages. Like Ndi-Okekere or Ndi-Okoro.

Just in case you doubt this, remember that popular Igbo settlements were based around either smithing, medicine, markets (exotic goods, crafts, etc) and the Aros/Abams were highly influential in this regards.

I am glad we have gladiators like Bkayy, slayerforever and the rest who have in a year or two cleaned up the mess and disgrace you guys created here over the years

And again, Nairaland is a dying platform. On Facebook and other social media like Facebook, large Igbo centric groups with some numbering up to 1 million members have risen to foster an understanding between Igbo subgroups. While seeing the huge connections and appreciating our individual beauty and we end up, celebrating it together as a common win for the Igbo race.

While these large Igbo groups are so successful and fun, the subgroups also have their groups to discuss umunna talks, culture, history and unique challenges each sub-groups are facing.

That's the beauty of today's social media and you know what, divisive people who pick up minute things to exergerate like yours are treated with hostility.

The reason I give MNK credit for this was that, it didn't exist before now, these knowledge were the exclusive possession of a few but now it is commercialised to young, passionate and vibrant Igbo youths. MNK started the commercialisation of this knowledge and lighted up the fire in the hearts of the average Igbo youths in the streets and social media and our parents at home.

QueenAgbo:
Remove agbor from your illusion,we are not interested.Thanks.

Are you from Agbor? You are not? Go back to your backward village. You are Bini subject.

RedboneSmith:
Very different writing styles, dude.

And even though it is clear that ChinenyeN is standoffish about Igbo pan-ethnicity, his views aren't quite as extreme as ImembaN's, who sometimes comes across like he's just trolling Igbo people.

imembaN = Osagyefo98 = Maleszenawi = Yyseke = Juliusmalema and his 60 other monikers.

ChinenyeN:
Always typical of Igbo people to try to rob someone of their Igboness and self-identity on this platform since 2008. You people think you actually have authority. Shninama. Imemba is a wholly different person than I. We don’t even write or communicate the same, and we don’t 100% share the same views. It should be easy to tell us apart.

For the record, I believe the Igbo tag is unavoidable, but from an academic standpoint and even a general knowledge standpoint. The academic definition of Igbo is just an ethno-linguistics family of languages. The world also now knows that there are a group of communities in the Lower Niger that can be referenced with the word “Igbo” or “Igbo-speaking”. This is general knowledge that is available or has become pervasive, so I can accept it. By coming from an Igbo-speaking community, I am invariably described as “Igbo”.

But language is not identity. Igbo people are trying so hard to turn “language into ethnicity” for every Igbo-speaking group, and that is where I draw the line. All Igbo-speaking groups should be free to proudly return to maintaining their own ethnic identities, if that is what they want. An Igbo identity is not compulsory.

Sometimes I don't know what is responsible for your archiac views. You all over the internet crying about "Ngwa identity" as if there is any nation in the world even a homogenous country where there are no regional identity, culture and language.

You are too blind to know where to draw the line or on which platform to discuss them.. What is shameful is that most of you are so archaic in your thoughts that you lack to tact to discuss such topics on hostile platforms like Nairaland where hate, and vultures are ever looking for the most minute of things to exergerate and fight you..

At the end of the day, do you think if you are fighting a common enemy, that they will spare you because you are holding on so tightly to a "slight difference" that other Igbos even in the same state do not even notice.
If you are so vocal about your Identity, what will people who were historically stronger, richer, culturally significant with more reverred history like Arochukwu in the same Abia state will do? The same Aros that "Aba" was named after? Wetin dem go do?

What is so unique to Ngwa that you left your Ngwa Facebook groups to discuss here before enemies on this platform.

Just so you know also, your talk about "Igbo ethnic identity" holds the same for ALL large ethnic groups in the WORLD.
Ethnic English people didn't come from one single progenitor, neither are Italian or Ethnic Germans but you see, even the ethnic Germans that find themselves in Austria, Luxemburg, Switzerland, etc knew what was up.

Chose appropriate platform to champion your Ngwacentric Igbo views, it is only wisdom. You don't find Yoruba people who are even way more diverse disgracing themselves here in that manner.

Igboid, you remember when I debated with you that ChinenyeN and the rest of those generation on Nairaland caused more harm than good right? That's why we respect MNK.

How are these "Igbo leaders"? They are all APC minions.

Konquest:
Yup!

The Ijaws and Ogoni people are definitely majorly fishermen migrants from Ghana.

The head of the Ogoni Traditional Council in Rivers State confirmed bluntly 3 or 4 years ago in a Saturday Punch interview that
Ogoni is a fusion of people from
Ghana and Ibibioland. He said
Ogoni language shares strong
similarities with languages
spoken in Ghana!

From the little study I did, I would say, the Ibibio, Efik, to Annang, ibeno, oro, obolo, andoni till Ogbia and Kugbo in Bayelsa state is a language cluster and maybe in some area a continuum.

I believe that Ogoni migration would rather come east from the Cameroons based on the direction rather than west.

Because of the length of their geographic spread and dispersal, the "purity" of the continuum would definitely be altered by the infusion of one culture or the other, while some are even extinct, cutting off the chain at some point in the continuum.
Ochichi for instance is functionally extinct (only spoken by one or two elders, they have merged with the Etches, an Igbo speaking group in Rivers state), therefore interupting the continuum at some point.

Also, because of years of migration, seperation by geographic elements (river mountains), drawing the map of that continuum physically might be hard but lingustically, one can see that it is there.

ChinenyeN:
So when the British abolished the slave trade, there were still ships and slaves that were in transit. Some of them were resettled in Sierra Leone. They came back to Nigeria mostly in hopes of making it back to the communities they were stolen or sold from. Many couldn’t completely trace themselves back and they ended up settling in different pockets/areas in the southwest, southeast and south south Nigeria as close as they could find for their former communities. Those are the Saro.

They effectively integrated into the local communities that they settled around/beside.

Some were also returning free slaves or former slaves.
For instance, in Lagos, many Saros were from Brazil.. You could tell from their surnames. Like Dacosta, Dasilva.

While as you said some from Sierra Leone like the Coles.
Fela's grandparents were Saros from Sierra Leone I believe who returned to Abeokuta.

NGArmyTerrorist:
I can now conclude that education in the gutter called Nigeria is not a problem but the iberibesm from child's birth. How can you elect someone who is not solving any of the problem facing you and you are still proud of him. What makes you different from those terrorists up in the Northern Nigeria. This country is really cursed! Tueh

So you couldn't deduce that the guy is a Northerner?

LOL. Juliusmalema, what happened to your other monikers?

Here is a rare picture of Juliusmalema aka Yyseke replying himself with his 25 monikers

Odepo:
HISTORY of aAbua shows that Abua owns Port Harcourt and not as claimed by the Okrikas and the Ikwerres
Because as a people we relied heavily on oral than written tradition, there is not a large body of documentation on our origin. Nonetheless, scholars have used two theories and linguistic analysis to reconstruct the Abua origin and migration over the centuries. These theories are:
(i) The Delta Cross Movement
(ii) The Benin Empire Migration
The Delta Cross Movement Theory
Traditions relate the history of Abua to the migration or movements of the Delta Cross Speakers. Prominent among these theorists are the linguists and university historians such as Murdock (1959), Nair (1972), Alagoa (1972), Williamson (1987), and Faraclas (1989).
The high point in this set of tradition is that given the language the Abuan’s speak, the people may have migrated from the Bantu heartland and moved downwards to the point where they currently occupy through the eastern Niger delta. The traditions of other people with related languages, the culture of the Abua group and a comparison of the linguistic relationship between the central delta group and her immediate neighbors reinforce their view. Some of these views are presented below:
Nair in his account recorded that Abua was among the seven Efut towns that grew out of the seven Efut settlements. The founders were believed according to him to be an offshoot of the Bantu-speaking peoples. These migrated from the neighborhood of Usha Edit (Rio del Rey) in the Cameroon. They left their original place of residence in a convoy of about seven boats and reached the Nigerian coastline.
In summary, this thesis suggest that Abua migrated from the same place with ancestors of the present day Efiks of the Cross Rivers state and that the group probably arrives where they are now in the late 13th century. This view is strongly supported by similarities in the numbering system of Abua, Efik, and Ibibio. It is also supported by some socio-political similarities; Abua, Efik, and Ibibio among others belong to the broad language group known as Delta Cross. Murdock suggests that these three ethnic groups – Ibibio, Efik, and Abua among others belong to the Bantoid sub-group of the Nigritic family based on linguistic evidence. Similarly, Ejituwu (1991) writing about the Obolo (Andoni) which is also a Delta Cross speaking community, suggested that there was a general movement of the Delta Cross speakers from the upper reaches of the Cross river towards its mouth. The movement may have reached the mouth of the river by about 300 B.C. As population pressures mount at the mouth of the Cross river, various groups of Delta Cross speakers started to look for new rivers and creeks into which to expand. To the east, they found themselves blocked by a cluster of other Bantu-speaking groups who were themselves in the process of expansion; to the west however, lay an area, which while not empty, was more sparsely populated. Accordingly, several waves of migrants traveled along the western creeks, some eventually settling down either in the eastern Niger delta or elsewhere in the delta. According to Ejituwu, the central delta group to which Abua belongs is one of the earliest migrants among these Delta Cross speakers.
Clark (1970) maintained that (i) the possession and use of iron technology and (ii) food production were responsible for the Bantu expansion at the time. With the use of iron technology more food was produced consequently, population soared and competition for space set in. These led to expansion, which was also encouraged by better military hardware produced with their iron technology such as spears, sickles, arrowheads and knives.
In summary, this tradition holds that Abua, Odual, Kugbo, Ogbia among others sometimes referred to as Abua group, migrated from Rio del Ray in the Cameroon through the Cross river to the Niger delta. They settled among other place

it is because Ibibio and Efik are so disunited and lack the vision to embrace all the cross people together. The group of Efik spanning from Cross-River to Akwa-ibom to Andoni, Ogoni, to Kugbo, Ogbia, to Abureni are all the same group or allied group of people.

I believe this stories of drugs is just the new propaganda to distract us from something more sinister.

Did this just appear from out of no where? Why is it making the news all of a sudden? Is this a new thing? is this a local problem? Did it exist in the past? Why were people not talking about it then? Meth existed for years and it is not a new drug so, is the supply a new thing? Who introduced it?

I feel some powerful elements are marketing it and making it available to destroy the youths... the first thing you do is market and talk about it (ask African American about how the drug epidemic started in their community)

You can trust people who are given to drugs, they will eventually seek it out just to test it. I am sure this drug doesn't come cheap and youths cannot just afford it.

I feel there is something brewing behind the scenes.

Bkayy, Igboid what are your thoughts?

Shaolin77:
Dsalvo plaindealer factshunter aribsala0 legendher0 unshakablejihad horsepower102 ofoigbo igboid.

Among Nigerian tribe in the US Igbo are the most predominant ethnic group

All these stats, Igboid was actually right..

the other stats was based on Language spoken.

bkayy you guys were right after all.

JOemmy:
I honestly don't think so uhrobo people are even more larger in population than the ijaws in bayelsa the only state ijaws can boast of is not even fully ijaw u have other ethnic groups there who vehemently reject been purely ijaw but the igbos have pure igbo five states including many proud igbo speaking communities in the south south and middle belt not to even talk of millions of igbos living outside nigeria I don't think ijaws are actually up to 10m if a proper census is conducted in Nigeria.

How did you come about Ijaw being 10 million? What is the basis for that stats? They only occupy 4 LGAs in Bayelsa and just small minority villages in one other LGAs. Remember Bayelsa is not more than 2 million people. the least populated in the whole country and Ijaws are about 60%. Where did you get the remaining 9 million?

Ijaws are not more than 3 million people in the whole of Nigeria.

Ovamboland:
They paid the price of treachery and rebellion

That's fine...and you are paying a higher price. You are at the very bottom of what human life represents.

adamsmith914:
Don’t mind those ipobians even the Tigray war in Ethiopia is making them excited? Anything Secession whether wrong or right they will support, take for example Ethiopia.

The tigrays a majority tribe that have ruled Ethiopia for donkey years, they lost power a few years ago in a democratic election, they have taken up arms today against the state, yet ipobians support them? Anything that causes confusion is what ipobians support, they hope to achieve freedom in confusion?

I know comprehension is hard for you. What the people did in Egypt and Tunisia was the force the resignation of the president who was in power for over 3 decades.

What happened in Libya better represents what bringing down the government is. The government as we know it holds Nigeria together.

Vintagepipes, this documents from the US research centre seem to support your assertions.
CC: Igboid, Slayerforever, Bkayy.

IkpuMmadu:
Most okun and kabba folks in Kogi insist they are not yoruba also... Seun my friend

I think the problem might not be unrelated to the fact that in the past, the people who spoke the "Yoruba" language were regarded as the "Akus" (From "Eku" because of their usual way of greeting).
This is before the creation of national and state boundaries.

Then, Ijebus (Jebous), Egbas, etc were regarded as separate from yorubas but under "Akus". Yoruba was the most numerous of all the "Akus"...
However, the lazy missionaries and subsequent colonialist just grouped all of them as "Yoruba".

Most groups like the Ijebus and Egbas rebelled against the Yoruba tag seriously for a very long time... I guess now, they are not as hostile towards the tag as in the past.

I can imagine why the Okuns will rebel against the Yoruba tag.

Phut:
I have heard the word “Okomoko” but I am not quite sure of the meaning. Does it perchance mean “stupid”?

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UncleAyo:
These are my observation trully about the tribe. Thanks for helping to put this traits into words.

I dislike tribalism or when people attribute negative traits to a tribe, but I became amazed that a large number of people can behave the same way and exhibit same traits.

What do you mean by traits? Have you asked "Why".

Do you know so many of them still have uncles, brothers, sisters, aunties who died as a result of the Western backed and funded Nigerian war against Biafra?

Do you know what many of them experienced after the war? Left with no money and starting from the scratch?

Yes, it was them against the whole nation.
So, maybe you should think hard about losing your loved ones, father and mother and having to start life alone with people against you.
Experience that and come and tell me how it feels.

Looking at all the pictures of dead uncles and aunties who I only see in pictures, I am usually astounded at how quickly forgiving Igbo people actually are.

LegendHer0:
You are right that the Igbos are more in those Asian countries and I can attribute that to the fact that the Igbos first resort is sha to travel and leave Nigeria so his people can say he’s in Obodoyinbo so they are always more desperate to go to any country.

It’s not only in Asia countries, even in some African countries you will see them. An Igbo guy once wrote about this phenomenon of “My son is in abroad” mentality of the Igbo man on SaharaReporters. I will update the thread if I get that link.

However you are wrong when you said those Asian countries proffer more opportunities for businesses/individuals than western countries. That’s a big lie because most of the Nigerian diasporan remittance are usually from the Westeen countries.

Let’s even forget that a Nigerian professionals in corporate America earn so well in these western countries annually than what some business can earn someone in let’s say Thailand or Singapore. also non-white collar businesses thrive very well in USA too. Car shipping businesses, phone businesses, supermarkets, drop shipping, African groceries stores, African Mechanics, online retails, and etc to start with.

That is why you see that most Nigerians arrested for drug pushing crimes are always in those Asian countries because there isn’t that much opportunities there so guys resort to quick money.

Lastly to buttress my point, PWC did a report on diasporan remittance to Nigeria in association with the World bank and you can clearly see that Nigerians in Western countries have the largest remittance to the country. I can’t even find Asian diasporan on the top list.

https://www.pwc.com/ng/en/pdf/the-economic-power-of-nigerias-diaspora.pdf

These are remittances made through official money transfer channels....

I will tell you for free, in most of these other countries, this is not what Igbos would use, except for emergency purposes or those who are just satisfied with their regular pay.

Again, even if you know the model of most Igbos, mere "remittances" is not the common model, rather exports for business, which comes back to them.

and the regular Money transfer model favours those who do regular jobs...

Although there are many Igbos in the corporate world or even regular jobs in the West but most prefer business and exportation.

If you see the high representation of Igbos in sports in America, like Basketball, American football, etc Even in science and technology over other Nigerian groups, you may think this figure is not accurate but this is a neutral study so you can't refute it.

GodIsBiafran:
Exactly! The ONLY state they are majority in is Bayelsa. And we all know Bayelsa is one the least populated states in the South.

And in Bayelsa, they occupy only 4 LGAs and probably a few villages in one other LGA.

GodIsBiafran:
This is why nobody takes you seriously. The single biggest tribe in Nigeria is Igbo. Only when Hausa and Fulani are combined do they outnumber us. We are the biggest tribe. Ijaw is the most overrated tribe in Nigeria. I doubt your population is more than 5 million.

Ijaws cannot be more than 2.5 million. Even if they use magic.