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1. Your initial comment started with. Do private establishments like banks, hotels and malls take permission from FG b4 installing CCTV?

But there is a huge difference between private domains and entities like banks , hotels, malls and public spaces where governments regulate.

2. You also asked or insinuated that the state is trying to blame other people for their misfortunes which means you either did not read and understand the article because the state clearly stated what transpired from the begging and then present situation.

3. Obviously, Lagos state initiated the project and built up the basic infrastructures like monitoring stations and command centers before the federal government stepped in to do attache by asking the Lagos state government to stop actions on their project because they are coming in to install thousands of CCTV even though they didn't have any plan or road map in place, their police and CCTV contracts are still mired in incompetency and controversy back in Abuja.

4. It is very clear that the Lagos sate government have the capacity to do their own thing without the obstructive FG attache and distractions hence the state going ahead with their basic infrastructures for the program like command centers all over the state.


5. What the state is concerned about here is duplication of resources, equipment and redundancy, this is why they wrote the FG to find out what the deal is, but eventually, I see the state going it alone regardless like they did in other cases.


I still stand by my initial comment about your post.

Curious_city: Quoting just one line of my post tells a lot about you. It is your fundamental human right to be one sided and rude, but your right stops where other's starts.

Look through all my posts here, I debate objectively and don't attack persons. I'm not one of those persons U engage in e-brawl. I am not a partisan politician or an ethnic bigot. I call a spade a spade. My initial questions, if well answered could have been in favor of LASG, but instead allowing others to answer the question, U wanted to tell me who passed elementary school and who didn't.
Only small minds with inferior arguments attack persons instead of convincing others with their points.

Ramnon.2:
Mumu. I should provide a link with my Camera? Are you that daft?

So all of a sudden the pic came from your camera?

lmao..


Ok, what is the name of this street in Lagos including local government area?


Cheap and crooked con artist...

basadenet: But the Police Authority debunk this claim, so why blaming FG.

They did so where and how?


And even if they did, it wont be the first time they pansied to their masters...

Curious_city: How do U know I even attended elementary school?

Obviously, you asked the question because you lacked the capacity to read and comprehend simple English words in the article posted or you.


And if you didn't attend elementary school, that's double jeopardy for you...

basadenet: To me it is not politics but the truth. He has to follow the laid down rules.

What rules was that again? The same rules that disappeared when Tambuwal stepped in?

Why do you people decisive and confuse yourselves?

deletrue: Goodluck, such a level headed personality. i now remember OBJ who will never tolerate what Ameachi is doing. What on earth will turn off Ameachi's head to even plan or attempt to go against the president. Does Ameachi know the enormous powers of the president to attempt trying him? Well, jona is such an outstanding and very few individual in existence today.
But i think Amaech should be delt with, for attempting to jump out of his own party because of greed without even taking into consideration their wealth to the north. Just think of it, if the oil is from the north, does Amaech thinks the north will allow others to remain one nation? Am not tribal but just decided to say it as it is.

A jungle man and his banana republic sentiments.

Curious_city: Do private establishments like banks, hotels and malls take permission from FG b4 installing CCTV?

If yes, we need to redefine our democracy.
If no, why does LSG need permission to install them?

Or is it a case of not knowing our rights, yet blaming others for our misfortune?

You obviously didn't pay any attention to reading and comprehension in elementary school...

Egbon didinrin. The chairman of NL association of sexually repressed people himself.

kedu. odunma..

lmao.

Ramnon.2:
You want link? The yellow Lagos cab is a good link for your blind eyes.

Link that states the picture was taken in 2013.


...but I know you won't post the link because you are too fraudulent to do so...

I'm 10000000% sure that picture doesn't represent any part of lagos in 2013 hence the fraudulent reason why you didn't support that nonsense with any link which I dare you to post..


Cassava bread Dullards are fraudulent too of course...

NL is indeed full of sexually repressed people.

^^^^^^^^^ Effects of low grade education.

Afam4eva: The same thing happened in Abia state.

We are talking about Lagos state and not your village.


And your village governor is not Fashola either...

I didn't believe their lies for a second. So why didn't they tell Tambuwal all the lies about following the rules and due process...?


You can not trust these ashol rock liars and clowns...

Afam4eva: Do you know how many years that that road has been under-construction? I won't be surprised if it remains like that till 2020.

Nobody is saying that Fashola is doing badly. At least most people can agree with the fact that he's probably the best governor that Lagos has had. But that does not take away the fact that his government is over-hyped.

The fact that Lagosians sent him back to Alausa with %82 landslide victory renders your opinion usual bad bele irrelevant.

Acidosis: Who introduced the Abuja project? GEJ?

kai..

I thought you said the project is stalled because

Other beneficial projects that will enhance human & personnel development...

and we are also fighting a big case of terrorism

Btw, don't yo need CCTV to fight terrorism too?

Get on the same page with ashole rock..

They can't even tie their own shoes...



smh..

^^^^^^^^^^^^ Incompetency...

Acidosis: Other beneficial projects that will enhance human & personnel development...

and we are also fighting a big case of terrorism

Actually, that question was a set up knowing liars like you go show face lie and spin... It's the same federal incompetence and lousy leadership..

Abuja: Where Are the CCTV Cameras?



But a few years down the line, the project initiated to support government’s effort to secure the country from terrorism has neither served its purpose nor being completed owing to various encumbrances that could be summarized as an alleged lack of commitment on the part of the project contractor to establish job schedule.

The project as handled by Chinese firm, ZTE has encountered delays and controversies enough to attract the federal parliament to investigate its position, yet there seems to be no end in sight to its completion. THISDAY investigations show that the project seemed to have remained in limbo, contributing nothing to Nigeria’s overall security efforts.
[b]
From dysfunctional systems and components to broken units occasioned by explosion from installed batteries of the CCTV cameras at an intercession between the Kashim Ibrahim Way and Aminu Kano Crescent in Wuse 2, as well as incomplete units at various parts of Abuja, the CCTV project appears to have added nothing to the arsenal available to Nigeria’s security outfit in fighting crime that has in recent time become a regular feature on the streets.

Just when there were media reports of a victim losing his sight from the explosion at Wuse 2, a national daily penultimate week reported an incident where a young undergraduate was robbed right under a CCTV camera which was later discovered to be dysfunctional by the victim as she attempted to provide the police with intelligence report of the incident. She had asked the police to trace the culprits with footages from the CCTV camera, only to be told that the cameras do not work and have remained useless for months now, although authorities in the police force claimed that the cameras have aided their work in combating crimes in Abuja and environs.[/b]
[b]
Also, an independent investigation by THISDAY shows that there are various complaints on the quality of work and material deployed for installation of CCTV in Abuja and its satellite towns. In Gwagwalada for instance, a site along the market road, opposite the University of Abuja Teaching Hospital with longitude and latitude 7.0781 and 8.94341 respectively as well as at Asokoro with longitude 7.54173 and latitude 9.02521 were found to be incomplete with no camera or faulty batteries, thus validating initial claims by experts that ZTE may have deployed substandard components to work on sites across the country. Some sites have also remained incomplete for a very long time.

Apart from these obvious setbacks in the completion of the project, THISDAY gathered that the recent decision of ZTE to retrench a good number of its Nigerian staff may further prolong the duration of the project which initial completion date was July, 2011 in accordance with the contractual terms agreed with the government.[/b]

Since there is no confirmed completion timeframe yet for the project, a part of the contractual terms for the project which include the provision of wireless voice service for the Nigerian Police Force (NPF) to aid its intelligence work against terrorism will remain pending, but this once again puts a question mark on the competence of ZTE to conclude the job.

Sources close to the project also hinted that ZTE was beginning to complicate issues in the project execution with its recent mass retrenchment of Nigerians within its employ. The company, THISDAY learnt had allegedly sacked 13 of its staffs in its Abuja office while another 30 were sacked in its Lagos office last month. THISDAY gathered that ZTE began the retrenchment of its Nigerian staff last year.

http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/abuja-where-are-the-cctv-cameras-/141195/

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Toktee: What facts,be honest spell out your state lets see wether such places do not exist,can you guys also show us facts on the developed areas or 4ever remain silent

Do you really want to see their stone age and backward villages? I'm sure you don't want to?




lmao..

Question ---



The completion date for the federal CCTV program was 2011, but this is 2013.


So what's the problem? What's holding back the FG CCTV installations?




^^^^^^^^^ I'm 100% sure it's the same federal incompetency and fraudulent activities..

karl max: I live in this area and knw this road .the road is in shangotedo [b]the reason why this road is tired is because fashole and tinubu has acres of land and are constructing their private estate along this road this is now their norm construcing road were they have land and private intrest [/b]while Neglecting the roads were people live and pay all sorts of development fees to lagos state and its council including tax.

Me sef hear say fashola and tinubu they build their own special airport for their private jects in the same area, they are even building their own special power plant..



Thanks for that wonderful gist jare...

joe4christ: Seeing your post, i was tempted to ask you if u loaned out your brain on credit?
Or is it that u reason through your a.nus
Do you even reason attall to have posted that crap of a comment.
I'm highly dissapointed in you being a nigerian with a shallow mind.
Damn you!

When you see them posting all over the place with the grin smile, you know they are trolls and clowns.

chidexy: Oga Omo_Tier1, the highlighted refer: I have asked myself that question severally, and yet to find a reasonable answer. I assume that the FG directive that the Lagos State Govt halt further roll out of the CCTV cameras should have come with the relevant reasons (supported by law of course), strong enough to have made the state govt to stop. Methinks that the State agencies should have liaised with the FG to address some of their concerns.

At the end of the day, CCTV may not really be the solution to our security challenges (might help) since we do not have a database of our citizens

They did, but as usual, they didn't respond.


The fact is, they are not interested in any CCTV in Lagos state or the other places they mentioned, it's the same federal jealousy and feelings of insecurity against Lagos state and it didn't start with the current administration or with this CCTV project.

Somehow they feel incompetent every time Lagos initiates major projects and before you know, they either attache themselves into the situation, obstruct or distract. They did the same thing over 30 years ago with Lagos state's first Metro rail attempt, federal cancellation of that cost the state $80 million or a lot more on today's money, now 30 years later and with renewed determination, the state revived the project and the same federal government again tried to obstruct.

Imagine Metro rail in Lagos and in Nigeria 30 years ago.. we definitely wont be talking about bad roads and heavy traffic today. In fact I see metro rail in other states today, but we kill ourselves with bad and petty leadership all the time.


Same way they neglected Ikorodu road for decades, but the minute the Lagos state government mobilized to reconstruct that road, they showed up again to obstruct.

The Nigerian federal government is full of illiterates, backward and unpatriotic elements..


What a shame..

Sincere 9gerian: [s]This report and the responses of ACN foot solders so far is shocking. When will these confused ACN e-warriors and their masters stop speaking from both sides of the mouth?

Precisely on the 9th of March 2013, a Nlander created a thread titled "Have Anyone Noticed The City Wide CCTV Cameras In Lagos??" https://www.nairaland.com/1220415/anyone-noticed-city-wide-cctv

The opening statement on that thread was:

"I have noticed that lagos is getting it right in terms of security.....i have been driving around lagos and noticed the numerous cctv cameras positioned at almost every major road and corners in lagos and being monitored online real time from the network operating centers....giving the security operatives a good hold on thecity.....any robbery or crime that takes place in the city will be contained in mins.

No wonder the recent bank robbery on thursday at zenithbank abule egba was foiled inmins and the whole eight robbers fully armed arrested"- billante ( m ): 8:47pm

On that same thread, the ACN e-warriors led by @Omo_Tier1..,Kuroji..,seanet01...,et al laboured tirelessly to prove to us how Fashola installed 10,000 CCTV cameras in Lagos and how we should bow down and worship Fashola.

That was 9th of March 2013. Now fast forward to today. The same ACN e-cockroaches are on this thread telling us how FG stopped Fashola from installing 10,000 CCTV cameras in Lagos. Ladies and gentlemen, this is another instance of clear double speak from a confused set of people. Which do we believe now?

Assuming today's report is true, if the state govt knew the FG had the powers (legally) to stop it from executing the project, why didn't it get the needed clearance or collaboration before going public with project?

Why is the ACN state governors always having this competition mentality with the FG? Why play politics with everything? Why always ACN controlled states? The same Good governance tour that was rejected by ACN controlled states has been to APGA and CPC controlled states and are presently in Zamfara state, an ANPP controlled state. Why always ACN states? The governor of Akwa- Ibom, Rivers and many other opposition controlled states in the north have tarred several federal roads without MEDIA NOISE. Why is that of ACN controlled states always associated with squabbles and MEDIA NOISE?

My impression is that ACN governors have competition mentality with regards to their relationship with FG. That is wrong. These are two different tiers of govt with clearly defined responsibilities that should collaborate to deliver services to the people[/s]

Boring ashole rock laptop regurgitation...

Biafra diplomat: [s]Are you this daft? Intelligent people will always answer questions with facts but ignorant ones like you will resort to cheap insults and abuse to cover up inherent flaws. For starters, this is an anonimous forum and you dont know me personally. From your utterance, I know you are from the ghetto. Poor ACN bulldog like you![/s]

I don't waste my time going back n forth with ignorant and backward villagers like you...

nameo: [s]Am actually tired and fed up of this constant noise making and Propaganda by the LASG and many ACN States. It is no longer funny joor. Stop blaming all your misfortunes on the FG. I hate noisemaking.

I am aware that hundreds of CCTV cameras have already been deployed in Lagos, a project been handled by the FG which is still going on. Why not wait for the project to complete or tell the FG to fasten up the project.[/s]

What a senseless rant...

Biafra diplomat: [s]What exactly are you trying to prove by posting these select pictures? Mind you, the worst governors can still post a few pictures of such even when majority of its roads are in disrepair. Honestly, it baffles me at the rate ignorant peeps are hyping Fashola to high heaven, while the dude along with his mentor Thifnubu, smiles to the bank, amassing money for 2015 elections. They will show a few pictures of Lekki, including tolled roads as achievement while large swats of mainland is gradually becoming the worlds biggest slum! Even to construct simple drainages and excavate canals is such a herculeen task, watch out how the coming rains will reak harvork on the city. I pity the residents because there is so much suffering and yet the governor is busy with propaganda. SMH. [/s]

I don't waste my time going back b forth with ignorant and backward villagers like you...

Ibro Yaya: They have already told you that even the President's plane declares its manifest before taking off. Why bring Patrick Yakowa and Azazi to this matter? Where they taking off from an airport or where they flying a commercial or private Jet?Think with your head I beg!

Ameachi's captain knew the right thing to do, but failed to do it. Maybe his head is also becoming big like his master Ameachi!

Please leave GEJ out of this matter. Laws must be obeyed, period!!

This remains rubbish till we hear Amaechi's sided of story...

Omo_Tier1: What are you on about? Is it the criminal vigilantes that dot the landscape of Nigeria that are now more experienced in the use of cctv? I have just explained to you that it is not necessarily the NPF that would be operating these cctv, rather the would need their output to help them police the state. What has this got to do with importation of cctv?

I scratched my head at that for a min too...

Acidosis: LOL! If we go, we'll render hundred of thousands of Lagosians jobless..

Weak and stale comedy is all you have left? I'll pass..