₦airaland Forum

Let's not tribalize the matter. Everyone is free to vote for whom they want in a democracy, no matter how foolish others might perceive it. If they want PDP, it is their right.

The themes that Jarus highlights (zoning, born to rule, religion, "destined one", or whatever they call Goodluck) are things that can probably tear apart Nigeria, if not dealt with properly.

Yes, Fstranger is correct. . . this is not really an election about ideas, but about personalities and individuals. At least, for your average voter this is the case.

The problem is, many Nigerians view the candidates as ethnic/regional champions, so to speak. Buhari representing the core North, GEJ representing the ND (and I guess Igbos as well.) Neither is truly a national figure.

Imagine a scenario in which Buhari wins, utterly flops, and the lot of the ND man is much worse? It could even be something out of Buhari's hands, like plummeting oil prices. Do you think the ND man will view this election as anything other than a pivotal event that lead to hope for the future being snatched out of his hands?

On the other hand, suppose that GEJ wins. My strong suspicion is that these amazing GDP growth #s for Nigeria as a whole have primarily been concentrated in the south, not the north. Maybe +10% GDP growth for Nigeria in a year represents 5% in the North, 12% in the south. . . something like that. Anyway, if this hypothesis is roughly true and your typical Northerner doesn't see much improvement in his life over the next four years, won't they be even more prone to blaming their misfortune on being "cheated" out of the presidency by GEJ? I've not even discussed the issue of who will succeed GEJ (North or SE?), and how that will play into things.

Anyway, the above picture I paint is pessimistic. But is also not really an unlikely scenario, to be honest.

I wouldn't be surprised if the country becomes more divided. Whoever wins will really need to reach out to the loser(s) and pacify them.

EDIT: Post might have typos, errors. . . a bit late here

maclatunji:
However, what is more likely is that Tinubu will refuse to align with Buhari in exchange for the reversal of rigged elections in the North Central region plus a few billions of dollars transport money.

I'm sure GEJ won't mind sacrificing the Saraki family and David Mark to win the presidency. And I hope Tinubu doesn't chop the billions alone, but asks for infrastructure projects 

I'm curious to hear from Gbawe what he thinks a deal might look like.

Btw, we get to play this same game again whenever GEJ's turn ends and the Hausa and Igbo fight it out to succeed Goodluck

fstranger3:
Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat?


THE STONE REJECTED HAS BECOME THE CORNERSTONE.

You have won the day, fstranger

Buhari (and those in his inner circle) simply are not very good strategists, tbh. W/o that alliance, he'll end up losing. The steps the ACN took of dominating senate/house seats is a step Buhari could and should have taken to give himself a stronger negotiating position w.r.t. the ACN and the PDP. Very shortsighted.

hmm

Every man has a price.

Even the SW has a price. So long as we have good governance in our region, have those elections rigged against the ACN in Kwara, Benue, and other places turn out fine, then I'm content (though I'd push for more than this.)

If Nigeria won't throw off the shackles of the PDP themselves, then I don't see why the ACN must by force liberate the entire country.

Charity begins at home, as they say.

Maybe another 4 years of PDP rule will teach Nigerians that it is a bad idea to have a one-party state. . .

BRF won't get to appoint his own commissioners? 

Why do you say this? Where did you hear it from?

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From this article: http://234next.com/csp/cms/sites/Next/Opinion/5689517-146/story.csp

Pweety4me:
[color=#550077]Taker her to the beach & buy a fruit, watever fruit she fancies, if it's a big 1 open the fruit first, place the ring inside & give it 2 her , then once she sees it ask her to marry you! [/color]

What if she bites the fruit and chokes on the ring

Kenyy:
Please be informed that this dastardly behaviour of the PDP and the lecturer would not have come to light if  Edo State was to be under the control of PDP; if however in doubt, please  ask Senator David Mark, Bukola Saraki, etc.

This is the biggest reason the PDP needs to go, really. Can you imagine commending someone for not rigging votes? To give "props", as jumobi1 suggests? 

How about we just get rid of the party that rigs in the first place and have a legitimate democracy?

Hehe

ACN is kind of funny

@fstranger3: It is a pretty entertaining part of nairaland

smh @ this PDP

wales:
Akunyili, who spoke at a press conference in Abuja on Tuesday, alleged that Ngige, who was the candidate of the Action Congress of Nigeria in the election, got his victory in a “fraudulent manner.”

This RIGGING artist is claiming that Ngige is the one who is fraudulent? She and Peter Obi should be rotting in jail cells for rigging and voter intimidation in Aniocha.

Shame on her.

[size=18pt]Major streets of Awka, the state capital, were jammed on Tuesday as the ACN candidate and his supporters held a victory party. [/size]

Ngige told his teeming supporters that he was now the senator-elect. “What I am waiting for is for the Resident Electoral Commission to issue me with my certificate of return,” he told the cheering crowd of supporters.

Well said.

He urged them not to be carried away by the celebrations.[size=18pt] “Tomorrow, we shall return to work. There are more elections ahead of us,” he admonished. [/size]

Heed those words, Governor Obi. Ngige is going after you next.

To be very blunt. . . you cannot win an election in Nigeria if two of the three largest ethnic groups in the country are voting against you. GEJ flopping in SW = losing to Buhari

Does this mean a re-run? Or what?

@muami: CPC and Buhari are not serious politicians, if what you posted is accurate.

@Pweety4me: Did you write this yourself, or get it from somewhere? If the former, you should write for a site/blog. . . it is pretty good.

real4life:
Apparently, Ribadu agreed to step down for Buhari, but Bakare refused to step down for ACN candidate.

Our hope now is that Jonathan and Tinubu also fail to reach a deal, then maybe there'll be a runoff.

Are you serious? Man, let me not say bad things about a Pastor

[quote author=BABE! link=topic=642473.msg8115052#msg8115052 date=1302670738]^^Aight! You cool! So Introduction:
My name is BABE! I come from Nairaland! 190 is my Father! Inked_Nerd is my friend! ADVOCATOR is my boyfriend!

You?[/quote]Lol @ your introduction  Which part of Nairaland are you from? Uptown, where the rich folk live?

Me, I'm just ekt_bear. . . no kin/significant others here (to my knowledge, at least  ).
[quote author=Inked_Nerd link=topic=642473.msg8115061#msg8115061 date=1302670982]^^^ lol nice introduction.

@ekt_bear: Hi ekt_bear. BABE! is really nice so if ya stick around long enough she'll show you around.[/quote]Thanks, appreciate it.

ThiefOfHearts:
Dont know how someone who cant even speak Yoruba is claiming Ekiti state

I wouldn't say I cannot speak. . . just cannot speak very good 


@jaybee: sorry for derailing. . .

It is just funny. Isn't it hilarious to you that the same guy that OBJ hates and GEJ probably dislikes and wishes he could jail is the one he has to talk to to get a win?

Funny as heck to me. You don't find it amusing?

I dey laff

[quote author=BABE! link=topic=642473.msg8114933#msg8114933 date=1302667629]^^^Oh, I see! Just asking! So you don't speak yoruba?[/quote]Kinda, sorta. . . let's just say it is a work in progress I can understand it pretty well though. Not so great at reading it (unless it is just Lagos Yoruba rather than pure, deep Yoruba).

Make I follow them to Gabon to trouble their spirits 

But on a serious note. . . I feel kind of bad things haven't worked out for you all.

rokiatu:
Bad joke

As soon as I submitted it I knew it wasn't going to fly Oh well. . .

:-x

He probably just needs to invest in a good bra

[quote author=BABE! link=topic=642473.msg8114903#msg8114903 date=1302667047]^^ hey, guy, where you from?[/quote]Ekiti State. I grew up in Maryland and Texas though. So "from" those three places, I guess