₦airaland Forum

LagosShia:
you're entitled to your opinion.but please dont use lies and try to make my belief a "brand".what do you mean by brand?hello?!!!

Jesu. Use a dictionary, infer from context, something. Should it be so had to realize that by "brand", I mean "sect?" Specifically, whatever your sect within Shiite Islam is?

Also, do not call me a liar. At the very least, provide evidence. You've offered nothing. Overall, your response was of very low quality.

^-- Good call. They don't really have anyone. Perhaps borrow the Edo man PhysicsHD? Maybe he can fight on their behalf. He seemed to think the analogy was bad earlier, w/o stating his reasons.

^-- Not a good enough response. As if you didn't even read his post. Perhaps you need to call in a bigger gun to help you debunk.

Sounds like a nice guy.

But. . . dunno what his parents were thinking naming him "Allison." Does he have a brother named Jennifer too

^-- That SGU one people always go to?

IT imo is boring and not that interesting. I dunno, it depends on what specific area you are working on. But by and large, monkeying around with code is pretty dull and tedious.

kasiem:
Its a known fact that an igbo man with pen knife can kill 100 yorubas with guns. So, its implausible to join issues with recreants.

I love Nigeria.

Pretty solid response justifying the Hens, imo. I'm surprised Uche and the rest didn't try to respond. Will be pretty difficult to do so, I reckon.

America is our friend, fstranger. Well, they can be if we play our cards right.

I'd much rather be America's friend than its enemy, let's put it that way. If you want to be enemies of America, you'd better stock up on nuclear weapons to protect yourself. And nukes cost a lot of money.

rofl

That first article made me laugh Tinubu. . . very hard not to like the fella. He is very funny.

Such a great read.

Did Bode truly get to keep his stolen 80 billion, tho ?!?!

wow.

LoveKing:
Who know am tell am make him shut up. Na whem him go old like Ojukwu, na him him go come sey na revelation. Punkass

+1

MaziUche0:
[One of the decampees is former PDP leader in Lagos State, Chief Adeola Taiwo.  Others are former Deputy Chairman of the party, Princess Ademola Adedokun; former Chairman (South West), Chief Dare Owolabi and Chief Wale Mogaji.

Wow. Not a bad haul for the ACN.

Arosa:
Are those coons really kings? they look like some yeye chiefs from togo and Ghana.

Smh. He probably paid off whatever the equivalent of the Ooni of Ife are in various African countries to do that.

Just kidding, the Ooni wouldn't sink that low

@alex101: Just too naive. If you have something valuable and are too weak to protect it, it will be taken away from you. That is the just the way of the world. Nobody "owns" anything in this life unless they can defend it.

Let me go ahead and dissect the rest of your post, line by line

alex101:
May you live long Mr president! Spend as much money as you can on the militants as you can.

Keep spending money sending those militants abroad. Might cause you to lose an election, though No wahala.

Those before you did thesame thing on their kins when in power.

Who? When? When were former militants send abroad to study?

We have people celebrating an ex-con bode george and they are blaming you for trying to rehabilitate your people,,,, A beg make we hear something

Wait. . . the guys who are celebrating Bode George are in the same party as GEJ. Otherwise, what is the connection?

God bless tribalism, and I must thank    "general overseer" of tribalism-awolowo.

This, I can agree with. God bless Awolowo as well.

People need to stop this "bad-belle-ing" of these brave militants. If you don't like them getting paid for their good works of fighting OIL greed by non-oil producing and parasitic states in nigeria (we know them), then pick up a gun and fight them.

Is a dumb policy. But if he wants to implement it, then pay off everybody's militants, not just his own.

How many of the ND citizens own OIL blocks? Crooks from the north and SW are stealing OIL money and celebrating IBB, OBJ,bode george and co.

So less oil block ownership => sent militants abroad to study   How do the two connect?

Long live the militants and our dear GEJ, the C-in-C. If you don't like, go sip on a concentrated acid. Nonsense!

May tribalism continue to flourish in nigeria-AMEN. The more tribalism grows, the better,,,,,,at least it will help bring that devil's dungeon to an end quickly.
All man to himself. Damn! can't wait for that useless country to disintegrate,,,,,,we know de people wey go yamutu and starve to death when there will be no more oil money to steal.

Sigh. You don't get it. Whether Nigeria stays or scatters, the oil-producing communities will be dominated by outsiders, one way or another.

If you want to leap from the frying pan (Nigeria) into the fire (China, US, Shell). . . so be it.

Plus the thing is, if Nigeria separates. . . well, I feel a lot less bad about pillaging my neighbor/enemy for resources than I do my countryman. Up to ya'll. . . however you wanna play the game, we can play it.

If all else fails, use the nigger as a bogeyman

A little too late, bub.

Skimmed through the post, didn't read through it closely. But doesn't seem like new technology? Just making tech under adverse circumstances?

If you have a solid engineer and he has access to a machine shop he can probably make pretty much anything.

Unless the purpose is just ot learn, things only become interesting if:
A) He makes something novel
B) He makes it cheaper than it ordinarily is made

Otherwise, nothing really groundbreaking, is it?

owobokiri:
Going to Phillipines and Egypt for serious training? The same way our president went to Saudi Arabia for medical attention while the Saudi king flew to Usa for a minor back operation? I no go die. Where else will they go for trainings? Laos and Burma? This people in govt dont know their left from their right,

You have killed me dude. Two minutes of straight laughter reading this post of yours.

PurestBoy:
Bode Georgd and Tinubu are both thieves, Tinubu should explain the 16 foreign account he has or have they closed the investigation?

Screw them and their useless investigations. Take him to court and we'll see how the matter resolves itself. Instead they are playing a chickensh1t game of "investigating" for a decade. What silly investigation can they be doing 4 years after the man has left office? 12 years after he first entered?

Will they still be investigating in 2051 too?

If he becomes president, stands to reason that his party (and its allies) will have done reasonably well in the Senate too.

No reason to expect him to be impeached.

Wtf indeed.

Didn't know militancy was so profitable.

How come the OPC boys didn't get an amnesty + paycheck + free college education to the US too?

xamphara:
, poo happens, but Niger is the largest in terms of landmass so the geography can be a reason for in-summed list. God help naija

How is geography the explanation  Where did the additional 1.4 million votes come from? When were they recorded? Before or after the official deadline? Why the huge discrepancy?

I dunno how Nigerians see strange things happen and just say "God help naija." Yes, God should help naija. . . but Nigerians should help naija by asking some simple questions, too.

To modify a popular saying (from Ben Frankin), "God will help Nigeria if Nigeria first helps itself."

oyb:
sadly, this is the thinking of americans everywhere - one moment you guys are decrying the humans rights abuses over there, the next, you are saying they are basically subhuman people who deserve to remain serfs all their lives

This isn't an American thing, this is just me personally. Most Americans are definitely far nicer on these issues. The guys who share my views tend to be right-wing Republicans. . . not really mainstream ordinary Americans.

you may as well ask whats so bad about the status quo in nigeria? why should such backward people have true democracy?

Who told you Nigerians are backwards? When have Nigerians suppressed their own women? Nigerians are very western-leaning and are very suitable for democracy imo. Their values are different, for the most part. The main problem holding back Nigeria is a lack of alignment of interests.

everyone deserves the right to chart their own future

Agreed. But don't ask me to care or help. I like the status quo in Saudi personally, and am not too keen on seeing it change.

those fundamental rights americans are so fond of belong to everyone, not just americans

its these actions , this support of bad friends that leads to the al-qaedas of the world in the first place

the us support of musharraf fostered the growth of al qaeda in pakistan to the levels it is at today, imho.

Your argument for this?

and for me, al qaeda and bin laden will always be the bastar-d children of the us clandestine interventions in Afghanistan

Yeah, you are right here, unfortunately. But Bin Laden was needed to fight the Soviets. . . or should the US have let Afghanistan fall to communism? 

seriously, your 'backward people ' comment has me smh. what next? i have seen on some forums where American chicks called arab chicks subhuman.

It is what it is, man. Given absolutely no interference from outsiders, they'll build a fairly crappy, oppressive government. Give Yoruba, Igbo and certain other groups in Nigeria their own country with no interference from outsider, they'll build progressive, foward-thinking democracies. Can you say the same about the Arab man?  I'm not trying to be racist or bigoted. . . but let's call a spade a spade.

Lagosboy:
I was trying to analyse your post as it all made sense till i got to the last bolded sentence. It is very unfair to categorise a people int hat manner , it is demeaning,it is bigoted IMO.

I stand by what I said. Democracy imo is a means to an end. A means for creating a better society. It isn't as if they are struggling to build a society in which the rights of women, religious minorities, etc are protected. They just want to replace the Saudi rulers with some other set of strongmen. What is so noble about that? Why should I feel excited about it?

The Saudi people are largely more educated than we Nigerians , They have far better univerisites

Who cares? How is this impressive? Nigeria produces 2.3 million barrels of oil per day, Saudi produces 10 million. Nigeria has a population of 140 million people. Saudi has what, 30 million? Give Yorubaland even 5 million barrels of oil a day and I can exceed everything they've accomplished in 10 years, max. So what do any of their supposed accomplishments mean? Just pure dumb luck. Some dinosaurs millions of years ago decided to go die in Saudi Arabia. Somehow this means I should be impressed by the Saudi people 

and have an under 30 popluation of about 70% who are very enlightened. The Saudi and Iranian women have more university education than most women in other countries, The iranian female undergraduates outnumber the male undergraduates.

You are mixing up issues. Persians I have a great deal of respect for and feel differently about. The issues there are different from that in Saudi, anyway.

How could you say such people dont deserve to have a say in their governance. Wheatever the majority of the people want to have they have a right to have it and not what some external forces want for them. Imagine Abacha telling the west Nigerians are to backward to have an open democracy because Nigerian men beat the wives etc.

Buddie, the Saudis have a right to be free from one family hijacking the whole country for themselves.

They are free to have whatever they can get for themselves. But it isn't some cause I feel a pressing need to go out of my way to help.

Maybe you guys have in mind that these countries want to replace their governments with wonderful, open, democracies, where everyone can participate. However, imo it is much likelier that a place like Saudi descends into anarchy and chaos. A Sunni Arab kingdom with a significant Shia minority concentrated around some of the best oilfields, Iran and Israel looming in the midst, Al Queda and other radical movements . . .

What is so bad about the status quo? You want to risk the 0.5% chance that they'd actually produce anything decent for the 95% chance we'll get something much, much worse? Women aren't even allowed to vote in most of those countries. Why is it by force that such backwards people should have democracy?

oyb:
dude, this thinking is why there is plenty of hatred for the us outside it's shores.

the west has no problems with propping up despots for the 'Greater good' pinochet, saddam, mobutu the list goes on

the us supported Saddam for years. it was only until he overreached himself by invading kuwait that he suddenly become a despot

Why shouldn't the West look out for itself first? That is the way things naturally are, isn't it? I look out for the interests of myself and my people first before looking out for yours, no? This is largely what it is, even if the US uses more uplifting language to justify its acts.

in the same way, the us supported the shah of iran, and reinstated him when he was deposed - that triggered off the iranian revolution. its easy to call the iranians evil etal, but how would you relate to a country that does its best to keep you ruled by lousy leaders?

No, Iran was definitely a huge mistake. And if I were on the receiving end of a screwjob from the US, I'd not be happy at all.

if the rumours about abiola being poisoned with tea by us officials are one day confirmed, what do you think the reaction to the us will be?

Nope, I'd be quite pissed. But he was probably just killed off by Abacha, tbh.

as to the house of saud not being that bad, you're not a citizen of saudi, so how are you to tell?

In the sense of less beef with Israel, peace in the Middle East, less influence for guys like Bin Laden and those think like him, etc. Who knows, maybe Saudi Arabs think the royal family is bad. But again, what alternative do they have that is suitable?

the us will always turn a blind eye to the excesses of its friends in the middle east. . .and this may be their ultimate undoing.

That is the way of the world. Help your friends, suppress your enemies.

Lagosboy:
It is what majority of the Saudi people desire that matters and it is not what favours the west. Mubarak provided 30 years of stability and the expense of development, freedom and prosperity of its people , these stability of 30 years crumbled within 18 days and Egypt is not a somalia now but hopefully is on the right track to reform.

I'm not holding my breath. We shall see. It is too early to declare Egypt a success.

To the two posters above. . . what guarantee do we have that the Saudi Arabs wouldn't replace their monarchy with something much more dangerous and evil? Are you really sure you want to risk instability like that? 

House of Saud isn't that bad, all things considered.

Bloated by corruption

Engorged on stolen wealth

A cow fattened on another man's crops

https://www.pointblanknews.com/Special_Reports/Peremobowei_Ebebi.jpg

Such gluttony is disgusting

I think if you put a bit more time into this and were inclined, you could submit this as an editorial. Perhaps Next or Sahara Reporters. I'm not quite sure. Certainly a lot more thought went into this than 90%+ of the editorials you see in most Nigerian newspapers.

You've have to remove/tone down stuff which hurts Igbo feelings though. Maybe remove the hens.

By Dada Jackson Senior Correspondent, Lagos

In furtherance of efforts aimed at bringing down the soaring cement price before year’s end, the Dangote Group, owners of Ibeshe Cement Plant in Ogun State, has hinted that the multi-billion-naira plant will be ready for commissioning in June, this year. Deputy Director (Projects), in charge of the plant Ved Prakash Sarkari, dropped the hint last week while conducting media executives round the facilty.The cost of the entire plant, including the power plant, according to Sarkari, is $620 million (about N93b). The plant has two lines with each of the lines producing 6,000 tonnes of cement per day, totalling 12,000 tonnes of cement daily. With a projection of 20,000 bags per day, multiplied by 12, the total bags of cement that will be churned out by the plant is not expected to be less than 240,000 bags daily when fully in operation. Prakash said that at “full throttle,” the Ibeshe Cement Plant would produce six million metric tonnes of cement per annum.He added that the Ibeshe plant has three power plants of 35MW each. He pointed out that though the official commissioning of the plant would be in the second quarter of the year, the plant would, however, start test running in April and, at the same time, commence the production of clinkers in the same month (April). He was quick to add that the kiln (where excess products are kept) was ready. The project supervisor said that the facility, which is nearing completion, has state-of-the-art equipment that are second to none in the whole of Africa. He added that finishing touches were being put to the plant, noting that such important components as the conveyor belt, however, is still under construction. He added that in line with the practice worldwide, the plant was located in a place where raw materials for the production of the commodity are in abundance. This, he noted, informed the confidence being exuded by the company that the high cement prices currently being experienced in some parts of the country would soon become a thing of the past. The raw materials at Ibeshe, he stated, are expected to last for 400 years, pointing out that the mines would equally last for another 90 years. According to him, the Ibeshe plant has five mining points where the limestones are processed. A notable feature of the plant is that dumpers (heavy duty trucks) would be provided to carry the limestone from the mines to the crushers. The dumpers, he stated, have different carrying capacity ranging from 40, 60 to 70 tonnes weight per dumper. Another unique feature of the Ibeshe plant is the three state-of-the art storage facilities which it has. He said that about eight communities which  border the plant were adequately compensated by the company when it came on board, adding that, as of now, the company does not have any cause to worry about unnecessary encroachment from any of them.

http://www.independentngonline.com/DailyIndependent/Article.aspx?id=29934&print=1