₦airaland Forum

Abagworo's perspective is pretty easy to understand. He believes that Igbo are better off in Nigeria than outside of it. Now, perhaps this belief is something you disagree with. But if you agree with that belief, then 75% of what Abagworo says naturally follows from it.

Of course, the issue is that many Igbo here don't have this same belief.

[quote author=isale_gan2 link=topic=592030.msg7597519#msg7597519 date=1295930940]But the issue is, is a TRIBALIST someone who hates other tribes, as AljHarem says, or just someone who loves their tribe?  It's the term Eku-Bear was not sure about.  He says he is a tribalist who looks out for the interest of his own people.  

Bear, can you clear it up, please?[/quote]Like I said, I don't hate anyone else. Just love my own ethnic group. If this makes me a "tribalist", so be it. . . I could care less  I'm not the sort of person who will change his philosophy due to the negative perceptions of others.

And practically speaking, it isn't like I desire to be some sort of pan-Nigerian figure either now or in the future. So there isn't any real price to be paid for tribalism.

johndoe200:
These things are not what RIVERS STATE needs. What WE want is for there to be more than ONE city in the state.

If Amaechi really had the interest of the state at heart he would have tried to build A new town/city in each senatorial district. he could then place all these new buildings in them.

All he is doing is just helping his semi ibo brothers. Thank God the FG has understood the issue and is building a new city outside PH.


PH is your "hometown"? I doubt that seriously.

Amaechi is pretty popular though, from what I've heard? Or is this wrong?

wahala dey! 

Wow. PH is really moving!

Mickoman:
so who is a tribalist then?

I don't even know what Nigerians mean when they use this term. They seem to use it both for (A) racists and for (B) people who want to protect the interests of their folk.

I don't view myself as a racist, but I guess since I fall under category (B) I'm a tribalist.

[quote author=EzeUche_ link=topic=592030.msg7597159#msg7597159 date=1295922796]And who went on a tantrum against the Igbo, because one Igbo claimed Lagos? What lurks deep in his heart is something that we have all seen.

Eku_bear reminds me of Katsumoto in characteristics. We all know those type of Yoruba. They do not show any outward tribalism like their bestial Yoruba brothers I mentioned above. They are the elite of their race. Outward tribalism is beneath them, but the tribalism still lurks in their heart. True sons of Oduduwa and the MOST DANGEROUS KIND. I fear those type of Yoruba more than anything else. The blood of Awolowo flows through their vein. They might smile with you, drink with you, party with you, cry with you,  but they will stab you in the back in a moments notice.[/quote]That is a very negative spin on things. I have no beef with anyone, so long as his interests and that of my own people do not conflict. However, anyone who threatens the interests of the Yoruba is my enemy (subject to fairness of course, if we are clearly in the wrong I cannot support that.)

And even then, it isn't as if I'm anti-Hausa, anti-Fulani, anti-Ijaw, anti-Igbo, etc. Generally it is  a few bad eggs in each of those groups, not everyone.

But aside from that, I'm pretty chill.

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=591988.msg7597130#msg7597130 date=1295922417]Can you believe that I had this Benin man in my Organization for a few years and I always thought he was Yoruba?
He always speak Yoruba to me, has a Yoruba name, and not even part of the Yoruba groups of Benin. I just found out he was from Benin last friday. Shocked and pleasantly surprised. Not surprising that he loves the Yoruba culture and talks about it a great deal. such a respectful and diligent man.

God bless the welcomingly welcome-ness of Yoruba people towards other groups.[/quote]DJ Khaled voice: "WE DA BEST"

Supposedly 80K Nigerians in the Houston area alone, as of 2003 (http://www.america.gov/st/washfile-english/2003/November/20031121162843yeroc9.750003e-02.html).

Tack on Los Angeles, Dallas, DC Metro area, NYC, Chicago, Atlanta, and I wouldn't be surprised if the pop were north of 500k.

Lol

I'm not really that inherently tribalistic. . . just the nature of Nigeria requires one to be. Not being protective of your ethnic group's interests in this country is a recipe for disaster.

Obiagu1:
I know the thought of Niger in Nigeria will scare you.

Likely many of the Hausa in Niger Republic and surrounding areas have already moved to Kano, lol. So that ship has sailed.

Porous border + wealth differential = Move to Nigeria

dayokanu:
Now the coup was executed to make Awolowo PM. LOL

What next? Awolowo from his jail cell in Calabar Killed Balewa, Sardauna and Akintola.

Obiagu1:
Sad, it's only the Igbos that are holed up in this pathetic country. I wish we have a clan in Cameroon, I'd probably move there permanently.

jason123:
My french teacher (sec school) is also a benin man. His name is KOLAWOLE . But do you support the 37 state statement? Do you think their should be a merger?

No need for a merger, but more trade, economic cooperation would be good for both sides, I think.

jason123:
Yorubas and Nigerians, What do you think? Since the north allows people from Chad, Niger etc to come in. Why can't the south do the same

Err, they already are in Nigeria (mostly Lagos). That border is really porous. One of my dad's good friends is a Yoruba guy from Benin.

Good!

Toyota Cowrolla, I guess . . . 

So hard for me to know whether to take these stories of the supernatural seriously. 95% of me doesn't believe, but the other 5% wonders. . .

Been saying it for a long time, since i was a lil kid.

I didn't know it was igbo in origin. No biggie either way.

Na wa o.

Different day, same sh1t.

Heh, interesting.

@kulutempa: It does, thanks.

To protect again forex risk. . . well, is there some sort of naira/dollar options market? If there is, then it'd be pretty easy to protect against this, yes?

Interesting discussion.

Question for ya'll (though to some extent it has been answered already).

What are the different factors involved in then pricing loans issued by say a Nigerian corporation, in light of this bond issue?

Say a Nigerian corporation wants to borrow $100 million loan from (A) a Nigerian bank (B) a foreign bank.

I guess in both cases (A) and (B), the lender essentially assesses the creditworthiness of the corporation, and then comes up with some higher rate X% the company is going to be charged, relative to some base rate. So if the base rate is Y%, the corporation will be required to pay X+Y% for the loan, where X is a function of credit-worthiness, duration of the loan, etc.

So how concretely does this bond help Nigerian organizations seeking loans? Does the Nigerian central bank base rate change in response to this loan? Or do foreign lenders ignore whatever the Nigerian central bank sets the base rate to, and instead use this bond as the base rate (and thus price things relative to it)?

Ifygurl:
LOL. Welcome to Nigeria. The country where lightskin means automatic beauty. LOL

No joke

Even Airis is just OK, not amazing.

Mai Suya:
_{oya sing everyone}

. . .if you do me I go do you,

rock me i rock you,

slap me i . . .em 

[quote author=Jenifa_ link=topic=590997.msg7585726#msg7585726 date=1295764122]they left in 2009. sang a goodbye song sef. *tear*
they're went to the corporate world to make proper use of their degrees I guess.

I still wonder what happened with the mullato girl titi.[/quote]The music business isn't easy Even if you are very talented.


And lol @ mulatto girl; you aren't very politically correct

alj harem:
i am from kukawa local government.

They have local governments in Chad?

Aigbofa:
EzeUche is terminally sick with tribalism, he can't be cured.

I too am becoming ill with this sickness. I don't think it is quite gone yet. Only in remission for the night

alj harem:
what!!!

dapobear, this is just the beginning,, like ezeuche said, we will rise from the ashes of nigeria

we will rise like the Phoenix

we igbos will rise

dapobear,, na war be this if you no know

A clever and devious man. Not quite what he seems at all. Is he even Nigerian, like he claims? Perhaps he is from the Chad Republic like his kinsman, Abacha  

Alhaji Harem, a riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma  

Kalu Akanu:
Now that's the spirit. It is freezing cold. We don't have that California sunshine! And plus classes haven't started yet. They start next week.

It is pretty cold here, unfortunately. I'm supposed to be doing work, but procrastinating instead on nairaland.

Anyway, I apologize guys for being a d1ck. I can sort of get caught up with this stuff and don't know when to stop.

Ola edo:
Come on people, lets shake hands.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sONfxPCTU0

Heh. Fair enough. I'll leave it at that. Tribalism is quite fun, but should probably stop, lest others are corrupted.

EzeUche, it is 12:34am in DC on a Saturday night. First or 2nd week of classes. Hella parties going on. What is your weak @ss doing at home? And don't make up some story about being with your girl. Proly wrestling with some of your homies, eh?