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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:55pm On Oct 20, 2014
cheesy
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:50pm On Oct 20, 2014
Video: Ed Woodward call one of his signing a ‘fucking waste of money!’
http://90thmin.com/video-ed-woodward-call-one-of-his-signing-a-fucking-waste-of-money/


Vine: Did Ed Woodward call one of his players a f*****g waste of money?
The United supremo cut a frustrated figure in the stands and was caught on camera either saying: "F*****g waste of money", or "f*****g hell, what's the point". You decide.

We are not sure who the comment was directed at. It certainly wasn't Maroune Fellaini who scored a cracker. And there are plenty of big money signings wearing the red of Manchester United. Jaun Mata is a better guess as the Spaniard struggled to make any impact before being taken off.
http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/premier-league/vine-did-ed-woodward-call-one-of-his-players-a-fg-waste-of-money-30679775.html
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:42pm On Oct 20, 2014
I am pained.

This is a match we should have won considering the coming fixtures. We made some expensive individual errors. Our defence need to strike an understanding. If we had If we had Jones and Samlling we should have won today. I am not saying Rojo is bad, but there was lack of understanding. The first goal was Rojo's error in taking eyes off his man. The second goal was between Rojo and Rafael. Common sense tells that when your partner pushes up the field to mark a striker/player, you cover quickly and close up the remaining striker. It's even more worrisome because Rojo was previously with him before Jones pushed up. Rafael on his part was not alert to the offside trap set by his CBs.

West Brom scored from just two shots. That's bad for us. The positive is that we score two goals every match. I still believe our game will soon gel.
Christianity Etc › Re: Vatican Proposes Dramatic Shift In Attitude Towards Gays, Same Sex Couples by elampiro(m): 9:06am On Oct 18, 2014
Ubenedictus:
do you have a record of the conversation?


if you don't then I suggest u exercise prudence in your condemnations
Why do you defend the Pope when he and the vatican have not denied the conversation with the woman?

Hope you are following the this Synod? The other time you were blindly defending the document released on Monday which said homosexuals have gifts to render/offer to the church and that they are welcome. Majority of the cardinals have condemned that document.

Can anyone take you serious when you defend anything blindly as far as it's from the Vatican? Pope Francis clearly want changes and his liberal cardinals he planted to force this aren't hiding their intentions and who they are working for. Now they said doctrines can be changed. Funny!
Christianity Etc › Re: Vatican Proposes Dramatic Shift In Attitude Towards Gays, Same Sex Couples by elampiro(m):
Ubenedictus:
actually I think you need to go and read who a schismatic is, check canon law and like o said before you need to see your parish priest and until you do so abstain from Communion
Canon law doesn't say we should not criticize the Pope. Stop trying to threaten me, it will lead nowhere. I am happy working for Jesus by defending the tradition of the church.

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Some Cardinals are now saying Pope Francis silence is harming the church. Some of them have said he engineers the manipulations. Stay there and defend falsity.

No wonder Bergoglio was disobedient to Benedict.
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* I think you need to read what Priests have been writing about Pope Francis since Monday. Your blind obedience needs to be checked man.
Christianity Etc › Re: Vatican Proposes Dramatic Shift In Attitude Towards Gays, Same Sex Couples by elampiro(m): 9:27pm On Oct 16, 2014
Ubenedictus, what do you have to say about Pope Francis asking a divorced woman to be receiving communion against the law of the church?

False mercy in granting Communion (without valid annulment) to Catholic couples who are divorced and civilly remarried, even though they are in the state of adultery

Bible Verse: “Whoever divorces his wife (unless the marriage is unlawful) and marries another commits adultery.” Matthew 19:9
Christianity Etc › Re: Vatican Proposes Dramatic Shift In Attitude Towards Gays, Same Sex Couples by elampiro(m): 8:55pm On Oct 16, 2014
Ubenedictus:
you are.

Canon law is very clear on this, the person who obstinately refuses to believe that the guy who wears white in the vatican city is the pope is a schimatic and incurs latae sentatae excommunication.

So before you post the next post, ask yourself what you believe and what canon law say. You are either a schimatic or very close to been one. You should see your parish priest and abstain from the eucharist.
You are a joke here.

The Francis and Kasper are the ones promoting schism. I guess you have not being listening to them.
Christianity Etc › Re: Vatican Proposes Dramatic Shift In Attitude Towards Gays, Same Sex Couples by elampiro(m): 8:22pm On Oct 16, 2014
Ubenedictus:
do you know what the saints say about those who encourage a schism?
And who is the person encouraging a Schism?
Christianity Etc › Re: Vatican Proposes Dramatic Shift In Attitude Towards Gays, Same Sex Couples by elampiro(m): 8:21pm On Oct 16, 2014
Ubenedictus:
actually dear, that is a gray portion of canon law, the suff that excommunicates a cleric is "heresy", not refusal to do work. He pope hasn't taught heresy,...those canons cannot be applied.


You seem to be readin half baked people on blogs.
There are many reasons a Pope becomes automatically excommunicated. Anyway let's leave this.

What is important is that one can have the believe a certain Pope is a bad Pope or even a False Prophet. Nothing wrong with that.
Christianity Etc › Re: Vatican Proposes Dramatic Shift In Attitude Towards Gays, Same Sex Couples by elampiro(m): 8:17pm On Oct 16, 2014
Ubenedictus:
maria divine mercy is not an approved apparation, the bishop of the diocese is distancin himself from the so-called "apparation".

Pls don't rank maria divine mercy along with fatima, la salette, akita...
I did not say Maria Divine Mercy was approved. I said it's one among many recent apparitions saying same thing. Even some of them have bishops as their spiritual directors.

Do you expect any apparition to be approved now? When last did the church approve any apparition?
Christianity Etc › Re: Vatican Proposes Dramatic Shift In Attitude Towards Gays, Same Sex Couples by elampiro(m): 10:34am On Oct 16, 2014
Syncan:
Oga, no one is threatening you, I just made a suggestion based on the rules on NL to post on topic. I really don't mind wherever you decide to post it as long as the OP does not complain, no wahala.



How does this respond to my post huh You just have a lot of bitterness in you that you're eager to release. Well, let's hear it.
I don't even get what you are driving at.
Christianity Etc › Re: Vatican Proposes Dramatic Shift In Attitude Towards Gays, Same Sex Couples by elampiro(m): 10:31am On Oct 16, 2014
Syncan:
What argument did you use scripture to support?
Cathecism of the Catholic Church (CCC) is completely drenched in scripture and tradition. You are not a catholic if you don't know this, you are just a maria divine mercy follower.
It's you that is not a Catholic. You are supporting and preaching heresy against the scripture.
Christianity Etc › Re: Vatican Proposes Dramatic Shift In Attitude Towards Gays, Same Sex Couples by elampiro(m): 8:56pm On Oct 15, 2014
Syncan:
You need to post on topic or you will incure the wrath of the mods, that's why I said to open a thread.
I won't incur any wrath, don't threaten me. If they support my argument or if there is any reason to invoke them, then it's cool. It's religion and catholicism we are discussing.

Syncan:
Now you are placing maria divine mercy messages and scripture as mates, ok na.
The Cardinals, bishops and priests who are complaining don't even know of Maria Divine Mercy. What is wrong is wrong. Take truth to the end of the world, it won't change. Divine Mercy devotion is a good example of truth that cannot be killed or buried.
Christianity Etc › Re: Vatican Proposes Dramatic Shift In Attitude Towards Gays, Same Sex Couples by elampiro(m): 8:49pm On Oct 15, 2014
Syncan:
I read the locutions because it contains inspiring and edifying messages, any day I start to see flip flops like those of maria divine mercy I will bail. I am not like you that MDM messages has replaced the scripture and church teachings for.
I have used scriptures to support my arguments. So what's the qualms about?

You on your part is placing CCC above scripture and tradition..
Christianity Etc › Re: Vatican Proposes Dramatic Shift In Attitude Towards Gays, Same Sex Couples by elampiro(m): 8:41pm On Oct 15, 2014
beryl04:
I am gay and that's the way I was born.


Ur question is just like asking if ur heterosexuality is from Holy spirit but I get it ur UN-informed and prolly know nothing about human sexuality apart from the mainstream and what d bible tells u is right sexuality.
But sorry to burst ur bubble Mr for human sexuality is neither black or white,male or female or even heterosexual and homosexual.there's other stuff in between and have been like that since beginning of time.
U know the bible shouldn't be the only literature u read ,try ur hands on other books and get to know more about the world u live in.
Mathew 19.

 “Haven’t you read,” he replied, “that at the beginning the Creator ‘made them male and female,’[a] 5 and said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh’[b]? 6 So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate.”

7 “Why then,” they asked, “did Moses command that a man give his wife a certificate of divorce and send her away?”

8 Jesus replied, “Moses permitted you to divorce your wives because your hearts were hard. But it was not this way from the beginning. 9 I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery.”

10 The disciples said to him, “If this is the situation between a husband and wife, it is better not to marry.”

11 Jesus replied, “Not everyone can accept this word, but only those to whom it has been given. 12 For there are eunuchs who were born that way, and there are eunuchs who have been made eunuchs by others—and there are those who choose to live like eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. The one who can accept this should accept it.”
Christianity Etc › Re: Vatican Proposes Dramatic Shift In Attitude Towards Gays, Same Sex Couples by elampiro(m): 4:09pm On Oct 15, 2014
beryl04:
Oh now it's church approved prophecies not Holy spirit induced prophecies.
Get real bro

Btw,I never claimed to be a catholic!
How do you know what is from Holy Spirit? You said you are a gay, is that from the Holy Spirit?
Christianity Etc › Re: Vatican Proposes Dramatic Shift In Attitude Towards Gays, Same Sex Couples by elampiro(m): 12:52pm On Oct 15, 2014
Syncan:
You can open a thread to start pasting them, I will likely visit to paste the contradictions too.
There is no harm in pasting them here.

If you want to see contradiction even in the bible you would see. Ok?
Christianity Etc › Re: Vatican Proposes Dramatic Shift In Attitude Towards Gays, Same Sex Couples by elampiro(m): 12:51pm On Oct 15, 2014
Syncan:
Flip flops speaking for itself abi? God does not contradict itself. Many have prophecied in the past, they had followers yet were not of God. You should read and follow nostrademus too.
Why do you read locutions? You are contradicting yourself.

Nostrademus despite being centuries old was not approved by the church. I didn't even live them.

Now, I have read all the approved messages and I hear God talk to me through them and the recent messages. And the prophecies are coming true (happening).
Christianity Etc › Re: Vatican Proposes Dramatic Shift In Attitude Towards Gays, Same Sex Couples by elampiro(m): 12:41pm On Oct 15, 2014
Syncan:
You see, you pick and choose which one to believe, why did you chose mdm over locutions? I do not want to go into the contradictions of maria divine mercy, all that anyone need to do is type " contradictions of maria divine mercy" in google and voila.
The messages of Maria Divine Mercy speak for themselves. If you want to believe what people write on blog to try and discredit them, that's your personal stuff. There are countless counter articles too validating them in line with church teachings, tradition and scripture.

As I said, I don't debate messages. I can only paste some of them here and let the readers here discern for themselves.
Christianity Etc › Re: Vatican Proposes Dramatic Shift In Attitude Towards Gays, Same Sex Couples by elampiro(m): 12:37pm On Oct 15, 2014
Syncan:
Did you take a look at the bold? What is wrong with that for a Pope? More so I see "Jesus" is calling him Pope Francis, did you take note of that? So was the advice to us to disown our Pope like you and run? Or to continuosly pray that good may triumph over evil.
Read the entire message.

I don't debate messages. That message speaks for itself.
Christianity Etc › Re: Vatican Proposes Dramatic Shift In Attitude Towards Gays, Same Sex Couples by elampiro(m): 12:22pm On Oct 15, 2014
4.001 – Message of Our Lady, Queen of Peace, delivered on June 29, 2014 transmitted in 29/06/2014

Dear children, I am your Sorrowful Mother and I suffer because of what is coming for you. Bend your knees in prayer for the Church of my Jesus. A great disorder will shake the faith of many men and women. The devil will cause a great division within the Church, but I ask you to keep alight the flame of your faith. Love the truth and defend it. Stay with Jesus. Do not hold back. These are the times I have announced to you in the past. Pray. Only through the power of prayer can you attain victory. The day is coming when the book of truth will be despised by the world and new ideologies will spread throughout the world. Be alert. Read and believe in the Gospel. This is the message which I bring you today in the name of the Most Holy Trinity. Thank you for allowing me to bring you together here once again. I give you my blessing in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. Amen. Peac

http://www.sign.org/articles/pedro-regis-messages-discernment


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Another visionary Pedro. He is popular among American catholics.

Now how many saying virtually same thing about the church? So many.
Christianity Etc › Re: Vatican Proposes Dramatic Shift In Attitude Towards Gays, Same Sex Couples by elampiro(m): 12:18pm On Oct 15, 2014
9. (Special Locution)

Apr

14

The Modern Events  

Jesus

Pope Francis wants only blessings for the Church, and desires to make the Church a place where everyone is welcome.  He wants to study the needs of the Church and has begun this process by calling a Synod, which will face the issues of family life.

There will be three stages.  First, the time leading up to the Synod.  Second, the Synod itself and third, the Church after the Synod.  The Synod will be a watershed.  The desire to accommodate and to be open will come at a high price.  People will speak up.  Some guided by heaven and others guided by hell.

Before the Synod, survey results will be revealed by those who want to influence the outcome.  At the Synod itself, some bishops will say things that will break with traditional morality.  Others will make suggestions that cannot be followed.  All of that will lead to the time after the Synod.

Some, to the far right, will have difficulty in accepting the tone of the Synod.  The vast majority of Catholics will wonder what took place and just what was determined.  There is a third group which has advocated serious changes in the Church’s teachings concerning family life issues.  They will see the Synod as the vindication, at long last, of their positions (even though this was not explicitly said).

After the Synod, the Church will be known as the Church of Pope Francis.  More than anything else, the Synod will put its stamp on this pontificate, just as Vatican II did for Pope John XXIII.

The Church, however, will not be ready for the fierce battles that lie ahead.  It will not be a Church formed by the Woman Clothed With the Sun, nor will it be able to confront the great forces that are shaping the world.  The Church of Pope Francis will not be ready.  It will be a popular, accepting and open Church but will not be ready for the future events.

http://www.locutions.org/2014/04/9-special-locution/


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* I see this as a polite way of telling you guys who Pope Francis is.

* We know too the side Pope Francis is between the two forces in the Synod.
Christianity Etc › Re: Vatican Proposes Dramatic Shift In Attitude Towards Gays, Same Sex Couples by elampiro(m): 12:12pm On Oct 15, 2014
Syncan:
Let me make clear some things here, since you've started your usual butterfly movement.

* I brought up the locution in argument previously to show you the confusion you can get into by following unapproved messages like your life depends on it.

* While maria divine mercy calls Pope Francis a false prophet, and says benedict was forced to resign, the locution actually said contrary, as a matter of fact the locution says benedict obeyed the promptings of the Holy Spirit in his heart to leave the stage for one who is in a better position to lead the church through this period.

* Do you see the contradictions?

Now I ask you elampiro, who is the representative of Peter in the church now, who is the pope of the catholic church as ordained by God?
I knew this was the reason you followed locution. Lol

I did not tell you I believe in locution, I only pointed to you what your beloved locution said about Pope Francis recently.

I believe in Maria's messages.
Christianity Etc › Re: Vatican Proposes Dramatic Shift In Attitude Towards Gays, Same Sex Couples by elampiro(m): 12:06pm On Oct 15, 2014
I will get that locution message for you soon. When I have time.
Christianity Etc › Re: Vatican Proposes Dramatic Shift In Attitude Towards Gays, Same Sex Couples by elampiro(m): 11:48am On Oct 15, 2014
Syncan:
It is you who is bringing in different things at a time, now you are shouting one after the other, you have not shown me where the locutions called Pope Francis antichrist, I am still waiting.
Now you are changing again. Did I say locution call Pope Francis Anntichrist? Even Maria messages did not call him Antichrist. The Maria messages said severally and emphatically since 2010 that Pope Benedict would not die on the throne but will quit (forced to quit from fores behind the scene) and that the False Prophet (the second beast of revelation) will take over. The first beast who is the Antichrist will come afterwards after the False prophet has cunningly dismantled the church over a period. When Pope Francis was elected the messages confirmed him to be the cunning impostor who will 'maradona' virtually everyone, according to the scriptures even the elect. So, don't put words into my mouth.

Your beloeved Locutions menages said Pope Francis church will not be ready for the world events.
Christianity Etc › Re: Vatican Proposes Dramatic Shift In Attitude Towards Gays, Same Sex Couples by elampiro(m): 11:04am On Oct 15, 2014
Syncan:
Do you know how many have been led astray by false prophecy? The way I see it, the number is about to increase by one. Tell me the passages you are reading with respect to homosexuality in the scriptures?
One after the other. I thought you were defending the locution messages because they praised Pope Francis. Are you backing out now? Lol

* We will come to homosexuality later today. May be tonight. We are losing man hour...
Christianity Etc › Re: Vatican Proposes Dramatic Shift In Attitude Towards Gays, Same Sex Couples by elampiro(m): 10:42am On Oct 15, 2014
Syncan:
Oh yeah, me twisting things because am referring you to scriptures. Whatever the date of the message bro, it must be consistent with scriptures. If you call Francis antichrist because he supposedly does not stand up at a time of deliberation for what is right, then same must be applied to St. Peter.
Francis is fighting tradition. That's the problem. He also publicly said he sees himself as opposition to those who hold conservative views.
Christianity Etc › Re: Vatican Proposes Dramatic Shift In Attitude Towards Gays, Same Sex Couples by elampiro(m): 10:40am On Oct 15, 2014
beryl04:
and non of ur spurious prophecies is coming to fulfilment.
If you don't believ in church approved prophecies why are you claiming to be a Catholic?
Christianity Etc › Re: Vatican Proposes Dramatic Shift In Attitude Towards Gays, Same Sex Couples by elampiro(m):
Syncan:
Lie. The locutions has never been in sync with your hatred or disrespect for the Pope. Quote me the message. Keep away from maria divine mercy, read scriptures instead, read lives of the saints, practice love of God and neighbours and pray for the Pope and leaders of the church.
*You cannot tell me to keep away from Maria messages. Even the Vatican once banned Divine Mercy devotion and they ended up being wrong. Even Fatima, the bishop doubted. I can go on endlessly. I old you I read others not only Maria messages.

* I reiterate that even as mild and kind the locutions messages have been to Francis, it has given a message that the church of Francis after the Synod will not be ready for the world and will not be formed after 'The Woman Clotted With The Sun'.

* You said I should read scripture. Is homosexuality consistent with scripture? No.
I saw that message, even though I am not all for the locutions.
Christianity Etc › Re: Vatican Proposes Dramatic Shift In Attitude Towards Gays, Same Sex Couples by elampiro(m): 10:32am On Oct 15, 2014
beryl04:
The same cardinal Burke that moved and covered up child-molesting priests under his jurisdiction in Missouri.
Ur problem Mr Elampiro is stark ignorance of the world u live in and in the faith u so vigorously defend.
U need to get out from under that spell and please for d umpteenth time,the world is not ending anytime soon and non of ur spurious prophecies is coming to fulfilment.
Let assume your claim is true. What about the other 40 Cardinals, do they also cover up for anyone? This is blackmail to sound valid. Concentrate on the issue at hand- The Church teachings.

You are not oblige to believe in prophecies. The people of Noah did not believe either.
Christianity Etc › Re: Vatican Proposes Dramatic Shift In Attitude Towards Gays, Same Sex Couples by elampiro(m): 10:28am On Oct 15, 2014
Syncan:
So St. Peter must have excommunicated himself when he did not stand up for uncircumcised gentiles.
* Stop twisting things. That prophecy was given in 1846. We are talking about deviating from tradition.

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Our Lady at La Salette said on September 19, 1846, "Rome would lose the Faith and become the seat of the Antichrist . . .  The Church will be in eclipse."
Christianity Etc › Re: Vatican Proposes Dramatic Shift In Attitude Towards Gays, Same Sex Couples by elampiro(m): 10:23am On Oct 15, 2014
Syncan:
You see the bold, na you put am. Stop adding and subtracting at will. You adulterate the message and confuse yourself.
Take what you want to take.

Any good Catholic knows what these prophecies are talking about. A dividing line is being drawn. Everyone has to choose between accepting truth or lie. Truth is something that can never be killed.

Enough said. It's a matter of choice.

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