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Most times we don't have the whole picture. We don't know which clubs are making inquiries already. My submission is that if Gaal sanctioned it, then it's good. The only problem is the number of players we have in that left side of the defence. Evans, Shaw, Rojo, Blackett competing for 1 or 2 spots considering Smalling and Jones can suddenly form a formidable partnership. |
Monaco said they were on a top English player, and that they are still confident o land him. All the papers said it's Rooney. Now, what's the essence of selling Falcao and wanting to sign a player who wouldn't take a pay of less than £250k, even if he were to take a pay cut by next summer? Is Monaco not confused? ... D thing dey confusion me fa. * One of Mata, Rooney, RVP will not be at United next season except if one of them is indifferent to taking a squad role, or Mata just hang around knowing that the other two are already aging. |
Casillas' latest error, which saw him allow Kucka's long-range strike to beat him straight down the middle, is likely to increase the pressure on Spain boss Vicente del Bosque to drop the Real Madrid man in favour of in-form Manchester United stopper David de Gea. http://www.goal.com/en/match/slovakia-vs-spain/1653171/report?=CMPID=FBINT_141009_SlovakiaSpainReport |
There are many ways of counting. Counting down is one. Surely surely Starboard started his counting from the rare. |
tonididdy:You forgot to add CR7, Beckham, Giggs, Rafael, Blackett, Kean, ..... The list is endless. In Chelsea, where is Torres, Crespo, Deco, Malouda, Kalou, Mikel, Alex, Bosigwa, Joe Cole, Ashley Cole, Meireles, Cech |
Chances created is the most screwed and useless stat in football. The real attacking stats should stop at goals, assists, clear cut chances conversion and clear cut chances created. 1. What is the essence of the stat when a player creates 115 chances and only 5 led to a goal? And he got applauded? Or one creates 100 and only 7 led to a goal. 2. Who is more useful? One who creates 100 chances with 5 leading to a goal or one who creates 50 chances with 10 leading to a goal? 3. or between a player who created 100 (useless) chances with only 5 being big chances (CCC) or another who has only 50 chances with 10 big chances (clear cut chances)? 4. The analysts of chances created stats even get confused. In 2012/13 as of January Steve Pienaar was said to be the best in chances creation. At the end Pienaar was not mentioned again, instead we were told in one article it was Baines, in another it was Mata. 5. The worst of this stat is the fact that the stat is highly screwed in terms of the teams the players feature in. For instance: * Mata is no where near Jesus Navas. Navas is more creative than Mata. Despite Navas being a winger. * Mata is no longer among the top 5. Man City now has 3 players among the top 5. In my opinion, I see nothing important in chances created/key pass. |
afrodoc2:We were told that chances created is so important. They showed us Silva created every 25 mins while Hazard created every 31 mins. * I wanted to know why Ozil a number 10 was behind Nasri a winger. That post was just a trol and a trap for other things. |
mcfarlin:Just forget it. Let's leave. |
mcfarlin:Lol. You are not armed. Ozil is easily defendable but you don't just know how to go about it. |
* At Madrid, Ozil created massive 24 CCC in 2012/13. Last season he created only 4. Club and league influence. |
mcfarlin:How did ' passer' Ozil compared to Nasril in chances created? Ukwu!!! Leave world cup out of this. He was dropped due to indiscipline. |
mcfarlin:Last season, Ozil was Arsenal number 10 for the greater part while Nasril is a winger. So Ozil ought to have performed better if you want to use position as an excuse. |
mcfarlin:* I am talking about EPL. * Nasril has not played in Laliga before. The German team and Madrid are a different set up. |
Arsenal midfielder Mesut Özil has been ruled out for up to 12 weeks with a knee injury, the Germany national team medical staff have confirmed. ..... Arsenal don suffer. Walcott, Ramsey and now Ozil. * Chelsea is the lucky team. |
mcfarlin:Why do you think Ozil is better? The fact that they don't play same position made Ozil's case terrible. |
Dadehmola:Lol. No let SailorXY and Mazi hear dis. They are fans of players who just do the simple pass. |
Who is a better player between Ozil and Nasril? This is a very close call. |
Eden 'Messi' Hazard. Fabregas has spoken. He has paid his homage. Let everyone else shut up now and pay their homage. ![]() .................................... In another news- Ronaldo endorses Benzema. Calls him best striker in Laliga. What hope for Chicha now? Good night people. ![]()
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Coogar, I hear you. You always want the last word. Now you have it. |
Fabregas: Hazard is Chelsea's Messi Oct 7, 2014 15:35:00 The Spain international also says he had "three options in England" but felt that the Blues were the best club for him after deciding to leave Barcelona in the summer http://www.goal.com/en/news/9/england/2014/10/07/5164667/fabregas-hazard-is-chelseas-messi?ICID=HP_BN_1 Even Fabregas paid homage. ![]() ![]() |
Robin van Persie is the latest injury concern for Manchester United. Voetbal International say that Van Persie didn't take part in the training session after the Dutch squad had warmed up. Instead he returned inside the training facility complex. There is no claim on any specific injury to either Van Persie. Holland face Kazakhstan on Friday and then Iceland three days later. Should there be a problem with Van Persie then Van Gaal will hope his replacement as Dutch coach Guus Hiddink will keep the striker out. However, there's still the worry hanging over the long term fitness of Van Persie. [Source: Voetbal Internation] Plssssss ooooo. Let it just be a rumour. Now guys will 'kill' Rooney. |
Shirley must have read from her source or complete sports or DSTV analysts that Suarez was used as false 9 for Liverpool. Then she concluded that Suarez operated as a second striker. ![]() Shirley, good night o. Weare already into another day. I gat to freshen myself well with some sleep. Coogar, I am done. |
coogar:You are putting words in my mouth. The perfect example I gave was RVP and Robben. As for assists, they came from the wingers because we relied from supply from the wings. I know Rooney didnt take much set plays as compared to 2012/13 to 2013/14 where he took almost half of them when he played. |
Shirley07:If you agreed Suarez was a false 9, then why do you still argue? Good you have long dropped your submission he played from the wing. I think you are confusing yourself with your use of false 9 and SS. They are two different things. See below: ............................................... The False 9, in some ways, similar to a more advanced attacking midfielder/playmaker role, is an unconventional lone striker or centre-forward, who drops deep into midfield. The purpose of this is that it creates a problem for opposing centre-backs who can either follow him, leaving space behind them for onrushing midfielders, forwards or wingers to exploit, or leaving him to have time and space to dribble or pick out a pass. Key attributes for a False 9 are similar to those of a deep-lying striker; dribbling ability to take advantage of space between the lines, good short passing ability to link up with the midfield and vision to play through team-mates making runs from deep to goal. Matthias Sindelar was arguably the first False 9, playing in the Austrian national team in the 1930s.[7] A False 9 was also utilized by the Hungarian national team during the beginning of the 1950s, with striker Nándor Hidegkuti acting in the role. Roma under manager Luciano Spalletti used Francesco Totti, nominally a trequartista, up-front in an innovative "4–6–0" formation;[8][9] this was met with a run of 11 consecutive victories. Arsenal under Arsène Wenger utilised Robin van Persie as a False 9, often partnering with Theo Walcott who would move into the box from the flanks, in a false 4–2–3–1. At Euro 2012, Spain manager Vicente del Bosque, although sometimes using a typical striker in Fernando Torres, used a false 9 in Cesc Fabregas in several matches, including the final. By the end of 2012, the False 9 had gone 'mainstream' with many clubs employing a version of the system. Barcelona's Lionel Messi has been an exponent of the false 9 position to much success in recent years, first under coach Pep Guardiola and later under Tito Vilanova.[10] ...................................... * In the example above, would you say Walcott was the lead striker and RVP a winger/SS? NOW PROBLEM IS SOLVED. ![]() |
coogar:* I never said Falcao is in the hole. * In 2011/12 we had Valencia, Nani, Young, Giggs playing very actively all season. Our operation was from the wings. We had Young and Giggs taking set plays. Even Cleverley took set plays. * The argument has been between you and I. Even some guys who started with you stopped posting since. |
chrisley024:I don't rely on people to back me. I hardly get backing here. So chill. He couldn't get stat because he was looking at a narrow angle. This is why those who look at the overall situation know who is who. Madrid are ready to break the bank. ![]() EPL players voted Hazard. whoscored rated Hazard higher, chances created are shits. ![]() |
coogar:Console yourself. ![]() |
1. Players voted Hazard twice. 2. whoscored rated Hazard more 2/3 3. Hazard scores more goals. 4. Hazard is a better dribbler. 5. Hazard doesnt get played in the hole as much as Silva. 6. Hazard converts more of his CCC. 7. Hazard is valued more in the market. |
coogar: Rooney doesnt have the players award over Messi. He doesnt have whoscored rating over Messi. He doesnt have the dribbles more than Messi. He doesnt have the goals more than Messi. He is not valued more than Messi. |
chrisley024:What about goals? What about the fact that Silva played some matches as the number 10? |
coogar:* nihilist was never my spokesman. We have been on this for the third day now and nihilist only posted twice. The moment I showed that Silva played the number 10, your argument was ended. I also showed that Hazard won on goals and assists and you refused to produce your similar chart of 2012/13. * RVP and Falcao are both centre forwards just as RVP and Robben. But RVP is the lead striker. Just as between RVP and Robben, it was evident that Chicha was the box striker while Rooney was the hunter who played behind. |
Shirley07:This is getting too long. I will soon log out to go do other things. I watched many Liverpool matches last season and I know what I am talking about. Suarez operated as Rooney would do when he plays top 9. If you play Rooney as top 9, he would start his move behind JS Park and Giggs or behind Mata and Young. Now sef, I don't know if your argument is that Suarez played as an SS or as a winger. But don't you use whoscored.com? They have post match formation. You can compare the result with zonal marking to know which player was used as the number 9. There are ways to verify these things. |
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