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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:33pm On Jan 20, 2020
Creativity from set piece has so much to do with the quality of forward you have and other players who can jump to nod in. Anold has 5 Assists from set plays, 2 from crossing. That is 7 over 9.

Robertson has 3 from crossing. That is 3 over 6 already. If they played in United, Maguire, Martial, Rashford, James, etc will be wasting those chances. Mane, Salah and Ferminho are a confusion to defenders.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:22pm On Jan 20, 2020
izzou:
[color=royalblue]I still believe the midfield is the problem, and your bolded is correct

For every 2-0 for Liverpool or Barcelona or Man City, there are numerous chances wasted. Look at chances Firminho, Mane, Salah and Oxlade wasted yesterday. As at when Liverpool had 9 corners, United had nothing

Yet with two or three chances, everyone blames the strikers for not scoring at United. Only Fred and Mctom dey useful for that midfield for now[/color]
All those chances were mostly created by the forwards, the defenders and the goalkeeper. Out of their 14 chances, midfield created 2.

Salah 3
Ferminho 3
Anold 2
Mane 2
Alisson 1
Robertson 1
Hendenson 1
Wijnaldum 1
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:17pm On Jan 20, 2020
patrickmuf:
When I talk Elampsbaba go say na Liverpool front 3 be their biggest force. VVD go open the opposition defense with just one long pass but our defenders no sabi at all.

Nothing annoys me like when Maguire, Lindelof, Shaw, Wan-Bissaka and Matic just keep passing the ball around with all manner of laxity even when we are a goal down. Only Fred moves the ball forward with purpose that's why I don't blame our strikers.
What I said from day one is that Liverpool midfield is their weakest link. I dont know when you heard me say their defence is weak.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:09pm On Jan 20, 2020
Meanwhile look at how fit Salah's body is. I can guess some United players have not even two abs cool

Hard work pays.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:08pm On Jan 20, 2020
This is why I don't blame Woodward and Ole because I know they must be facing big challenges. But fans sitting in the room taking odeku would be thinking things are easy.

Just like in a work place you use to blame those at the helms of affairs taking decisions that affect business, ..... until it gets to your turn
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:05pm On Jan 20, 2020
Manchester United legend Sir Alex Ferguson met with Napoli star Kalidou Koulibaly last summer to discuss a move to Old Trafford, according to stunning reports in Italy.

The Senegal international has been on United’s radar for a number of years and was wanted by Jose Mourinho as far back as 2017.

United signed Harry Maguire in a deal worth £80m last summer that saw the England international become the most expensive defender of all-time.

However, Foot Mercato claim that Koulibaly was United’s first choice and Ferguson was dispatched to speak to the defender in order to persuade him to move to the Theatre of Dreams.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/metro.co.uk/2020/01/18/ole-gunnar-solskjaer-sent-sir-alex-ferguson-speak-manchester-united-target-kalidou-koulibaly-12079715/amp/
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:29am On Jan 20, 2020
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m):
Distance covered per 90 minutes by midfield players last season

Fred 11.76
McTominay 11.75
Matic 11.52
Hendenson 11.46
Keita 11.20
Wijnaidum 10.95
Pogba 10.43

Pogba's time is too poor. He has to work harder.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:01pm On Jan 19, 2020
Lana1:
So in ur expert opinion, what is the problem of United?
We are yet to gain proper understanding and cohesion in our play. There is no superman yet in the team to instill fear in opposition defence. Did you see how Ferminho is the least skillful among the forward Liverpool players was breaking our defnders. Even Martial cannot do that. Salah and Mane without the ball make defence panic. This gives other players room to shine.

One superman in United, everything could change. Plus understanding of playing together for a long time.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:57pm On Jan 19, 2020
If I did not come to this thread today, in few weeks when this match is referenced, they would have told me that I do not watch football that the midfield is our problem. Even without McTominay, the midfield gave a good account of itself. The only player better than Fred today was Dijk. In the United team, Matic is among the top four.

And for the stats, Fred carried everything on his head. Even having the highest number of passes in the game just behind Dijk.





If I don't come here again for a long time, do not say I no dey wtach ball.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:47pm On Jan 19, 2020
diggz:
You guys played some good footie today to my dismay. Just wondering why everyone is blaming OGS like they expected a win or something. With Rashford and Mctom maybe you guys would've stood a chance today though. Matic is even getting a crucified for doing a decent job.

Anyways, you collect this one use hold body.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYx5ukr_YWw
The highlighted is just an agenda to prove that the midfield is the problem of United.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:11pm On Jan 19, 2020
patrickmuf:
You're just impossible.
Truth is bitter, particularly when it is not the popular view.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:09pm On Jan 19, 2020
ManBeast:
Man united 80 million don enter Mediterranean Sea, like kepa like Maguire, money down the drain oo grin cheesy.


We go dey alright sha. Airmark go rejoice like mad when dijk score dat header. huh
And we had a Smalling who made these kind of clearances look easy. We abused him week after week. If he chased Salah from the halfline, he would catch up.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:43pm On Jan 19, 2020
patrickmuf:
The ones Salah missed, the one De Gea saved is not clear cut abi?
It was a normal ball to save jor. DDG suppose to even save the first goal. I am sure Romero would have punched the ball over the bar.

But we missed what is called a big chance and then an empty net.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:33pm On Jan 19, 2020
patrickmuf:
Converted which chances? Did you see how chances Liverpool missed? If they too had converted their chances, it'd have been an embarrassing scoreline.
You mean those offisides and foul on DDG?

The chances missed by Perreira and Martial were the clearest chances in the match
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:28pm On Jan 19, 2020
This is not about stats, everyone saw what Fred played.

This is same Izzou who was trying to put the blame of our defeat on midfield. The blame was defence and formation. Our central midfielders can be exonerated for today's loss because our forward players missed chances. We had the first opportunity to create a big chance and score. We had more chances to equalize.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:24pm On Jan 19, 2020
izzou:
[color=royalblue]Nobody disputed the stats you quoted. I can remember patrickmuf was trying to tell you that their pattern of play limits their creativity but they are better than United midfielders. You refused
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They are simply not creative. No coach would have given Xavi or Lampard defensive duties. Our midfield is better. Push Fred and McTominay to play behind Mane, Salah, Ferminho and protected by the Liverpool defence and you would see real midfield.

izzou:
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Today, TAA will push for attack, get there and lose the ball, but he will still remain there because he knows Henderson is covering for him[/color]
That is because they play three in the middle.

izzou:
You can't watch today's match and choose United midfield over theirs.But you can sha grin[/color]
You are only trying to justify your stance only because Liverpool won. If we converted our chances, you will not be praising Hendenson and co for being backmen. They were lucky we didnt have Rashford
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:09pm On Jan 19, 2020
izzou:
[color=royalblue]You have been shouting Fred Fred Fred

What about your other midfielders. Wetin dey play? Abi na only Fred dey midfield today?

Liverpool's pattern of play may not show the creativity of their midfield, but those guys were awesome. Gini, Henderson and Oxlade played well

My opinion sha. You can keep using stats to console us. No wahala
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Also, without stats, Fred was the best midfielder in the two teams today. He was even playing in an inferior team with two man midfield.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:06pm On Jan 19, 2020
izzou:
[color=royalblue]You have been shouting Fred Fred Fred

What about your other midfielders. Wetin dey play? Abi na only Fred dey midfield today?

Liverpool's pattern of play may not show the creativity of their midfield, but those guys were awesome. Gini, Henderson and Oxlade played well

My opinion sha. You can keep using stats to console us. No wahala [/color]
We played only two CMs and Matic was still one of our better players today.

Remember, my argument was that our midfielders rated higher than Liverpool on individual basis. I put McTomonay as the best in the two teams (excluding Keita who has played too few minutes). Fred still one of the best in the combined midfield.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 7:54pm On Jan 19, 2020
izzou:
[color=royalblue]Everyone will always have an explanation

Only Fred was valuable in that midfield. He could keep the ball, which was vital. See as Henderson and Gini dey mark sef.

Like i said oh, i cant take United midfield over Liverpool.[/color]
My argument stands, nothing special in Liverpool midfield. Mostly as I said, our midfield is more creative. Even the defence today, Fred tried.

Highest tackle for United Fred 3
Highest interception for United Fred 4
Highest dribble for United Fred 3
Highest chances created for United Fred and Bissaka 2
One of the only four players to get a shot on target
Fred had zero unsucessful touch and only one dispossession.

As for Liverpool, Hendenson had 5 tackles and zero interception which is their highest. So don't say anyhting like he did better difensively than Fred. And Fred beat him in the attacking stats
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 7:19pm On Jan 19, 2020
Fred don turn Xavi o

See turning
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 7:11pm On Jan 19, 2020
patrickmuf:
Watford, Crystal Palace and Wolves have held Liverpool down and but not for poor finishing or VAR, they'd have won or at least claimed a point. We are playing better now sha.
Sometimes small teams surprise even Barca, Madrid and Juventus
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 7:09pm On Jan 19, 2020
patrickmuf:
Our press is so not coordinated, everytime we get it right, Liverpool players boot the ball out surrendering possession in the process. I dare say if we had Rashford, Pogba and McTominay we would trouble this Liverpool team.
And we are playing against one of the best teams in the world. I was not expecting us to dominate. But a win is always possible
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 6:56pm On Jan 19, 2020
Fred and Matic are among our best players today
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 6:51pm On Jan 19, 2020
We have had our own chances to score.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 6:50pm On Jan 19, 2020
patrickmuf:
Even when we had Ronaldo, Rooney, Tevez, Scholes and the rest, I don't think they has been anytime Liverpool showed us as much respect as we are showing them here. This is just sad.
They also had their own world class players like Gerrard, Alonxo, Torres, etc.

But we showed City respect under SAF.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 6:39pm On Jan 19, 2020
olabode89:
Even if he is being played as a fullback he has to cover Trent as Mane is usually on lazy ass Lindelof. It seems that AWB does the have the required gas tank to play that position.
How many times has he played there before? Ole tactics did not work today
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 6:38pm On Jan 19, 2020
patrickmuf:
Elampiro, I hope you're watching the match? Can you see how effective Liverpool's supporting cast is?
They are a superior team by attack and defence are weakened by non availability fo Rashford and McTominay to counter their fast play. The fact still remain that the front three is their asset. They are very dangerous and so can confuse any defence.

Most importantly, a full back has again added to his creativity stat because he has a player who can nod in a set piece.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 6:34pm On Jan 19, 2020
olabode89:
Are you watching this game at all??

Matic is the only midfielder that it trying the control the midfield with pressure relieving accurate passes. He has been one of our better players in the game.
Yes he has done well bringing that control and calmness when we have the ball. But without the ball is the problem.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 6:32pm On Jan 19, 2020
izzou:
[color=royalblue]Maybe stats dey see wetin i no dey see sha

But there's no way i'll pick this midfield over that of Liverpool.

Its not possible[/color]
The case might have been different if we played McTominay to match the pace of the match instead of Matic. Secondly if we played Rashford to stretch the defence. Thirdly if we also played three in midfield. Fourhtly, if we played a formation that the players are used to. Bissaka and William at wingbacks are two inexperienced people for that role.

Remember too we could have gotten the first goal with a perfect pass from Matic to James, but James and Matial connection was very poor. Martial could pace as Rashford would do to enable James square at first time. I guess too you are aware the goal came from a fault of the defence. And something told me that Romero could have gotten a punch on that ball.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 6:24pm On Jan 19, 2020
olabode89:
Mane, Trent, and Gini are running a train on AWB. Baba no dey bother chase Trent back again. omoloomo.
He is being played as a wingback. He doesn't have a full duty to fill the full back. May be tactics failing United because we have two guys playing in the wingback probably the first time in their life, or at least against a big team
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 6:21pm On Jan 19, 2020
Lana1:
Maguire and Matic are our tallest outfield players. But na Williams, one of our shortest players dey mark Van Dijk.

The things you will only see at Manchester United
But it was Maguire who should have cleared that goal. He and DDG are having a bad day. Lindelof was saved by VAR

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