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After reviewing the highlights of the match again, I want to exonerate Fellaini of any blame in the goals. 1st goal- Evra took off his eyes from the players in the box. It was three United defenders against only Aguero. Fellaini did what he was suppose to do, stay arounf the edge of the box. Apart from the mistake from Smalling and Valencia, the goal would have been prevented had Evra been alert. 2nd goal was the fault of Smalling (I guess he was the one in front of Fellaini). The ball was headed towards our goal before it got to Fellaini. 3rd goal was Ferdinand's fault. He took his eyes off Aguero. 4. I don't know who to blame. It was a swift counter from City and Smalling went to help cover central defence while Nasri became free. Fellaini didn't play well as a midfielder, but a closer analysis of the goal shows that they were not his fault. |
Manchester #United fans are celebrating after the club's American owners, the Glazer family, dropped their opposition to the listing of Old Trafford as an "asset of community value". Two months ago, Trafford Council, supported by the British government, granted a request from the Manchester United Supporters Trust (MUST) to have the Premier League champions' home legally registered as a community asset. That status means it would be harder for the owners to sell it and, if they were to put it on the market, fans would be informed and given the chance to raise funds to bid for it. United opposed the move for the ground to be registered, but MUST said the club's lawyers had now withdrawn their request for the council to review the decision. Duncan Drasdo, the trust's chief executive, said: "We're delighted that the owners have taken the decision to back down over their opposition to the listing of Old Trafford as an asset of community value. We were always very confident of our case. "We hope this will offer further encouragement to supporters' trusts at other clubs and indeed provide extra impetus to the government to push forward boldly with meaningful reform of football to encourage greater participation by supporters in ownership of their clubs." (Source: ESPN) #mufc #mufs |
I think Fellaini can do better with speed and tackle more. He joined Carrick and the backline in shadow marking or trying win balls with positioning. He said his team mates have been trying to help him settle. Hope this is not what they are teaching him. This is not what I expect of him, but let's hope he can pick up and help the team with something different as he did against Leverkusen. |
StarBoard: Now it takes a humbling defeat at the derby for Moyes to realize that Nani, Kagawa and Evans will start vs LiverpoolApart from the defeat, it is very logical they are given that game. I wont be surprised to see Giggs too. Some of the other players need a rest. |
jackbauerspower: https://assets.sbnation.com/assets/1893669/Kirsten_Benteke.gifI think Jones is miles stronger than Smalling in taking out a man or when faced with a one on one situation. Jones could have taken out Nasri and even totally block the right back against City. |
pappilo: Touch not my anointed. Let God be the judge[color=#000099] Do you mean the nonsense you just typed there? |
gratiaeo: New church's and their quest for money. Churches formed by hungry and desperate pastors, they will tell you that Catholic (the mother church) is worshiping idol just to deceive you and lure you their own church (private center).Magicians calling themselves pastors and our people are always so gullible. |
debosky: Oh ok. . . .it must've been RVP's nephew and Rooney's cousin that were 'together in the face of defenders' against Chelski and Liverpool when y'all fired blanks.That was an early fixture with a new manager in charge. Sometimes to get the best out of Man United, someone has to push their back to the wall. It is getting to a point where the team throw caution to the wind and over run their opponents. |
The fear factor will return when we put Rooney and RVP together in the face of defenders. Should Kagawa and Nani hit form, then even the big teams will be scared by the time the reverse fixtures resume. The defence will be less under pressure in the next few games such that Moyes should have gotten more options in Evans, Rafael, Jones and Smalling for the right and central back before the next tough fixtures. With time Moyes will get the right balance. Moyes was the only EPL manager beating City home and away easily. The tough fixtures didn't allow Moyes to play Kagawa, Nani, Chicharito, Zaha and Janujaz. The man just stuck with the guys he felt made a good start to the season. One major good thing, the fixture exposed Giggs. Moyes doesn't have time for eye service. |
Which is better/best? Police arrest you for a traffic offense: 1. You settle on the spot with N500 or N1k Or 2. You go to station with them and pay N5K, or at worst you sleep in the cell for one night. Or 3. You decide to embarrass your children and wife by stripping naked in public in the eyes of other children who will mock your kids in school forever. Illiteracy is truly a disease. In his mind now he is very sensible and a hero. He lacks any self dignity, such men are heavy 'patronizer' of brothels. |
coogar: sure he is....Before RVP came, United had been turning games around even with 3 goals down. Yesterday, the result would have been different: 1. If we had Jones or Rafael on the right back. 2. Or Jones in the mifield. 3 or Cleverly starting. Fellaini is still adapting. 4. Had we opted for a 4.3.3 5. If Welbeck had played permanently behind Rooney. Welbeck was in a strange land yesterday. Despite having SAF last season, City were able to completely dominate United at Old Trafford. The scoreline could have been worse than 1-2. Good night and bye on this. |
***** When RVP is on the pitch we do not lose by more than one goal margin. We are watching. |
BinghiNya: and what exactly did your van persie do against chelshit and loserpoolDon't worry. The season will prove so many things. It is just starting. The big matches last season had Rooney and RVP. United couldn't have won at Ethihad last year without Rooney. It looks like this thread is about to be reduced to a direct comparison between Rooney and RVP. I have been trying not to reduce myself to creating an internal division among our players. This thread someone creates such. |
I refused to be drawn into arguments regarding individual performances. Arguments that will be endless and largely influenced by sentiments. It is enough that I made my observation about the match. The basic thing was that the team was poor. But if we were to hold individuals responsible, certainly not Wayne Rooney. I have not seen anywhere else Rooney took blame for any goal conceded or his overall performance. |
italo: What is Francis' agenda?[b]Let the immediate future speak for itself. With time you will see a one world religion while true Catholicism is suppressed and goes underground. 1. It will be done in the most cunningness ways just as it is gradually starting. 2. Do you know that by the end of 2011, a Cardinal was already speaking of Pope Benedict's death (removal)? See link below. The Pope will die within a year: Vatican 'assassination fears' revealed http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/vaticancityandholysee/9073811/The-Pope-will-die-within-a-year-Vatican-assassination-fears-revealed.html A year from that time was November 2012 where according to that Cardinal the Pope should die. By February 2013, Pope Benedict announced he was resigning. 3. For you to fully know what is happening, you will need to go read Catholic prophecies given over the last 100 years or so. ................................................................................................................................................................................... Pope Pius X. "Our Apostolic Mandate requires from Us that We watch over the purity of the Faith and the integrity of Catholic discipline. It requires from Us that We protect the faithful from evil and error; especially so when evil and error are presented in dynamic language which, concealing vague notions and ambiguous expressions with emotional and high-sounding words, is likely to set ablaze the hearts of men in pursuit of ideals which, whilst attractive, are nonetheless nefarious." Notre Charge Apostolique[/b]
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Even in 2007/2008 season we struggled to get off the block with SAF in charge. Let's relax and pray for a winning streak over several fixtures. Sunday 12th August 2007 Manchester United 0 Reading 0 ............................... Wednesday 15th August 2007 Portsmouth 1 Manchester United 1 Mwaruwari 53, Scholes 15 Sent off: Muntari 83 Sent off: Ronaldo 85 ................................. Sunday 19th August 2007 Manchester City 1 Manchester United 0 ................................ Sunday 26th August 2007 Manchester United (Nani 68) 1 Tottenham 0 ................................. Saturday 15th September 2007 Everton 0 Manchester United (Vidic 83) 1 |
Wayne Rooney on FB. Disappointing game yesterday, our performance just wasn't good enough. It's up to us as players to put it right now and there can be no better game to motivate us than facing Liverpool in the cup on Wednesday. |
The story behind Van Persie's no.20 Former Manchester United assistant manager Rene Meulensteen has revealed the story behind Robin van Persie's shirt number. Meulensteen told BBC: "The first time I saw Robin van Persie when he came to the club, I said: 'Listen, you'll fit like a glove here. The way I know you from a distance, the way you play, the way I know Manchester United, how we want to play and the way we operate, I think you will absolutely love it'. He's done that. "We were on the training pitch in the first week, I was setting up another possession game and I saw the manager speaking to Robin. I overheard him talking about the numbers that were available: 'There are only two numbers available, 20 and 21, what do you prefer?'. So to help Robin a little bit, I said: 'You can only be number 20 because if we do win the title that's number 20, which you will be carrying on your back'. |
chrisley024: This our style of 'positional defending' is not helping at all. We allow opponents come to our half while we keep watching claiming 'positional defending' is BS! Waiting for counter attack? Abeg, we're not a bottom table team that plays with such cowardliness.Good observation. I guess this is due to the sluggishness of our backline. |
I am logging off for now. Hope to return later in the day. |
italo: Lol...Pope Francis and his cohort are using Benedict to appear to be genuine. Pope Francis is trying to hide under Benedict in his quest to push for acceptance of his agenda. When he presents a pic of him and Benedict, people will say he has same agenda as his predecessor. But Francis agenda is different he is coming out gradually. |
italo: Then he welcomes the agent of satan to the papacy.They are using him. Pope Francis is not alone in this changes that are coming. |
italo: For Elampiro (and others like him) who sees Pope Francis as an agent of satan who has broken with the teachings of his predecessor, Benedict XVI. Pope Benedict openly and seriously condemned homosexual marriages and fornication (cohabitation without marriage) Pope condemns gay marriage in speech to US bishops Pope Benedict XVI on Friday condemned gay marriage in a speech to bishops from the United States after Maryland last week became the eighth US state to legalise same-sex unions. Pope Benedict XVI, seen here on March 7, has condemned gay marriage in a speech to bishops from the United States after the US state of Maryland last week became the eighth in the nation to legalise same-sex unions. "Sexual differences cannot be dismissed as irrelevant to the definition of marriage," the pope said, warning against "the powerful political and cultural currents seeking to alter the legal definition of marriage". "Marriage and the family are institutions that must be promoted and defended from every possible misrepresentation of their true nature." He also said bishops could not overlook "the serious pastoral problem presented by the widespread practice of cohabitation". "The contemporary crisis of marriage and the family... has led to grave societal problems bearing an immense human and economic cost," he added. Benedict XVI has frequently warned against liberal family values in veiled references to homosexual marriage and adoptions by gay couples, and the Catholic Church often condemns countries that recognise gay rights. The pope's fears that the traditional family is at risk are likely to be the focal point of the World Meeting of Families 2012 in Italy in June. From Europe to the United States and Mexico, gay rights groups pushing for marriage and child adoption reforms are winning growing support, marking a change in public opinion which worries the Vatican. The issue has sparked heated exchanges between Church leaders and politicians. Earlier this month, Britain's Cardinal Keith O'Brien told Prime Minister David Cameron that same-sex unions were "madness" and a "grotesque subversion of a universally accepted human right". http://www.alternet.org/rss/breaking_news/830965/pope_condemns_gay_marriage_in_speech_to_us_bishops 2. Pope Benedict Takes Anti-Gay Marriage To New Level In Christmas Speech On Family Values VATICAN CITY — The pope pressed his opposition to gay marriage Friday, denouncing what he described as people eschewing their God-given gender identities to suit their sexual choices – and destroying the very "essence of the human creature" in the process. Benedict XVI made the comments in his annual Christmas address to the Vatican bureaucracy, one of his most important speeches of the year. He dedicated it this year to promoting traditional family values in the face of gains by same-sex marriage proponents in the U.S. and Europe and efforts to legalize gay marriage in places like France and Britain. In his remarks, Benedict quoted the chief rabbi of France, Gilles Bernheim, in saying the campaign for granting gays the right to marry and adopt children was an "attack" on the traditional family made up of a father, mother and children. "People dispute the idea that they have a nature, given to them by their bodily identity, that serves as a defining element of the human being," he said. "They deny their nature and decide that it is not something previously given to them, but that they make it for themselves." "The manipulation of nature, which we deplore today where our environment is concerned, now becomes man's fundamental choice where he himself is concerned," he said. It was the second time in a week that Benedict has taken on the question of gay marriage, which is currently dividing France, and which scored big electoral wins in the United States last month. In his recently released annual peace message, Benedict said gay marriage, like abortion and euthanasia, was a threat to world peace. The Vatican went on a similar anti-gay marriage media blitz last month after three U.S. states approved gay marriage by popular vote. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/21/pope-anti-gay-speech_n_2344870.html This is how a Pope should speak, and not to dance around issues. |
aeu1: I am responding to this thread for the sake of at least one person who will learn something new here. This stripping has a lot to do with the spiritual realm (just realise that mere mentioning of spirit will make many to object profusely), however, for those that are aware that spiritual realm exists: in witchcraft, one of the popular ways of overpowering a target spiritually and consequently physically is to manifest scenes to attract sympathy after the offender must have committed an atrocity. The background to all these stripping is neither scientific, nor psychiatric in most cases as alluded to by many commentaries in this thread. Someone mentioned soldiers would not capitulate, if they are overpowered spiritually, they will equally turn back on a definite note.I think you are living in fear and you are probably a believer of a fake prophet who has put so much fear in you. You see everything from a spiritual perspective. |
n0m0705: Thank God the thread is now calm.I am beginning to see that Jones is our second best defender after Vidic. Had Jones played at the right back, he would have blocked it properly even though he cannot use the ball effectively. Had he paired Vidic at the centre, may be there wouldn't have been so much space for Aguero and Toure to shoot. Rafael can still be said to be our best number 2 because of his ability on the ball when he goes forward, but he too sometimes get shaken off his feet by skilful wingers. |
Had Cleverley not introduced and Fellaini pushed forward, City could ave hit seven. That singular move brought some fear into City and reduced their midfield dominance. If Jones had played in the midfield today I am sure City chances would have been reduced. Even if he had played in the right back, it would have gone a long way. Jones doesn't allow you turning him around as they did to our back men today, particularly Smalling. Smalling had a magnificent game against Leverkusen but he was rubbished on the 'ground battle' today. Fellaini became too soft and unnecessarily slow. ...... Just as I thought we have got a rugged man with a good football sense. Hope we won't cry for more midfielders by January. I won't like that at all. |
Purist: Funny thing is, the stats paint a completely different picture. United had more of the ball and had a higher pass completion rate.Tackles are very important. We lost out completely in that area of the game. Secondly, statistics do not tell the full story. Sometimes it can even be misleading for those who didnt see the game. United only played for about 30 minutes- the last 30 minutes. But City were still more dangerous each time they had the ball. One other advantage the City players had was that they were more athletic and fitter. Our backline were always struggling to cope with their speed. This is why I have always thought that Vidic and Ferdinand are too slow. If we can get Jones the experience to replace Fedinanad, that would be great. |
Cristalz: Okay superstar1, my latest forum padiMoyes has no blame. He has never lost at Ethihad like thIs before. But now he would be more careful about the formation to adopt in big games. 4-3-3 looks best for us in big games. Had Fellaini played at his optimum may be the 4-4-2 would have worked. I didn't see Fellaini doing the dirty jobs he did against Leverkusen. He was too soft and slow. But this is not to say the blame should go to only a certain players. |
Cristalz: Leave them. Their excuse is now that Leverkusen is not the same as City.Something has to be done about the respect United give to City. Arguero and Nasri are always using us. If we didn't resort to defending against them too early, we could have pushed them back. What was the essence of the defence sitting with the goalkeeper in the first half? We started nervously hoping to come into the game gradually, but we let in the first goal. It was a really poor performance. We have to change our attitude when we play City. |
FACT: 6 of Manchester #United's 13 Premier League titles have come after they won only 2 of their opening 5 games. The season has just begun! Keep calm and support United! |
If we can go on a winning streak it will really help us. It think it was in 2007/8 season, Man United were on 18th position after 5 matches. Then we went on a winning streak and by Nw year we were on top. Now we have gotten Chelsea, Liverpool and City behind us. If we can get two wins, then the confidence would have returned. The coach should keep Rooney, Carrick and RVP away from Carling cup. We should always put both strikers in the face of our opponents in premier league matches. Then if we can get Kagawa and Nani to fine form, we will be deadly such that by time we start playing the reverse fixtures the story would have changed. Fellaini would also have settled. Jones and Evans will return soon and the coach should take a decision on Ferdinand. Lastly, Rafael will be back soon. |
Emperoh: ,Had this fixture came in November, the coach would have had it much easier picking his starting line up. Today, the coach decided to stick to the guys who have been doing the job for him this season. Perhaps, Nani and Kagawa could have help in retaining the ball. But they too weren't looking very superb in the last outings. Had the score been slim, the changes would surely have been different. We could have seen Chicharito planted in the box for a late rally for goals. But Young may have just lost his place in the starting line up. |
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