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Christianity Etc › Re: An Exclusive Interview With Pope Francis by elampiro(m): 9:14am On Sep 30, 2013
italo: @ Elampiro,

Why should we take your visionary's words as God's words any more than we should take T.B Joshua's words as God's words.

At least T.B Joshua, we know and can see.
It is not compulsory.

But if you read the entire messages, you will know the truth. You will have an understanding why our world is turning upside down. You will know why the various govt are legalizing same sex marriage, bestiality and abortion , you will understand the financial crisis and struggle, you will understand the secrete of the planned microchip implant or the RFID implant. You will understand why the Masonic group are fighting the Catholic church and infiltrated it with their men and causing maximum scandal and chaos- the result we have in the gay lobby and abuse, plus many more, you will understand the book of revelation as it relates to our time.

These prophecies are in line with many catholic visionaries- past and contemporary.

As I said it's not compulsory to believe. The Divine Mercy was first condemned by the Vatican.
Christianity Etc › Re: An Exclusive Interview With Pope Francis by elampiro(m):
Syncan: Alarmist at work again, Publishing from his Internet Visionary, an Unknown face behind a keyboard, Who is your visionary? Can you certify that this visionary is even a male or female? What is his/her location? Why do you think the visionary is Catholic? Predictions...reminds me of Nostradamus, he should be first place in your list of prophets. I am not even going to criticize the content, there is no need doing that on an anonymous visionary.
1. The visionary is well known. Her name is Maria. An Irish Visionary with a bishop as her spiritual director.

2. Her messages in line with those given by St Francis of Assissi, at Latsallete, by late. Fr Stephano Gobi in the book 'To the priests Our Lady beloved sons', John Leary (catholic New York visionary with more than one bishop as spiritual director at different times), also in line with the approved massages at Akita, Medjugori, Fatima, Garabandal and many more.

3. The rosary, some dogmas and many feast days were influenced by Jesus' and Mary apparitions and messages. The Divine Mercy was once condemn by the Vatican. A Pope did not encourage Francis of Assisi.
Christianity Etc › Re: An Exclusive Interview With Pope Francis by elampiro(m):
Syncan: A. Hahahaha, Alarmist! pretend you do not know that people go to read the Vulgate and Greek versions of the scripture, when disputes arise from translations. What two translations always remain the same, but the core of the message should be interpreted as same. That's what I have done for you, find an independent Italian or Spanish speaker(even non-catholic), compare the meaning/understanding from the passage, till then bro, hold your peace; for you speak in Ignorance.

B. Other language translations are from the same source too, that's why broad discussion fora are available, to remove all doubt in such situations. Once there is doubt, you cannot convict. You are already blinded by your belief in certain "visionaries", wolf, wolf, wolf is now your cry.

C. Blatant lie. Tell me another translation that had such problem, tell me. This reminds me of St. Paul, "As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction". 2Pet3:16. When you become perplexed, seek more knowledge before judgement. You need to remind me of when the Vatican radio became the official source of correspondence between the pope and the world.

D. Hahaha, why not rather educate yourself on the history of Nigeria, you may want to start with the Igbos, they may even be closer to the term "God's people".

E. If he allows his conscience to do good.... Did you see that? Do you think a man is capable of doing "spiritual good" without it coming from the Holy Spirit? You really need to read some early fathers (which the Pope has read) and get knowledge. The Ignorant does not stand in Judgement of the learned.

F. Do not worry, I am watching, It is either he is the shepherd or the enemy; not the two, like you propose.


Mudslinging is not what I am here for, You keep bringing in new topics while exposing your Ignorance. Take a look at this reflection, "When I was young, I thought perhaps that I was doing some good; and now when I am old, I see that I do not have any good deed." Did not our Lord say: "No one is good but One, that is God" (Matthew 19:17). Therefore, if only the one God is good and the source of all good, how can a good deed be done that is not from God? And, how can someone who does a good deed ascribe it to himself and not to God"?. It is the duty of everyone to do good, you believe in what I preach or not, do good anyway.
I know the history of the Ibos. Can't you see how much they are catholics. That shows you something.

You keep ridiculing the English publications from the Vatican.

I have made my point in this argument. The future will now tell.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:27am On Sep 30, 2013
Afrodoc, you have finished Berbatov with your statistics. The first statistics about his goals of 2010/11 tells a lot for that season.

When you add your second stat to the fact that he had only 5 UCL goals in 4 years, you see a player who is useless against big opposition. We also made a huge loss on his deal.

Even SAF said he was always unlucky with old players, and that Berbatov was a recent experience. But for RVP he was sure.

No one should ever tell me about Berbatov again.

Page number 456 bookmarked.
Christianity Etc › Re: An Exclusive Interview With Pope Francis by elampiro(m): 12:42am On Sep 30, 2013
God the Father for those born into pagan families, and through no fault of your own, I will grant you Mercy.

Monday, September 16th, 2013 @ 16:20

My dearest daughter the human race is, to a large extent, impervious to My Existence. So many know little about Me, their Father, their Creator. My sacred servants, including all those who believe in Me, the Creator of all that is, have failed to prepare humanity for the punishment which will face them if they do not acknowledge the error of their ways.

A desire to believe that ‘all will be well’ has meant that many of My children do not believe in the existence of Hell. This is a place where people who refuse My Mercy, My intervention to save souls, go. Mortal sin, unless it has been erased through reconciliation, will lead souls into the abyss of Hell. Those who may not be guilty of mortal sin, but who do not believe in Me, and instead believe in an existence which has been created and fabricated in their minds by false idols, have much to fear.

Reject Me, your creator and you will turn yourselves against Me.  You will cut yourself off. Many of you, when the truth of My Divinity is revealed to you, will fiercely oppose Me and nothing I do will save you from the fires of Hell. I can use every Divine Power but I can never force you to accept My Mercy. Nothing only the prayers of chosen souls will help you. This means that you will never see My Face. Anyone who tells you it does not matter if you do not accept My Existence is lying. Only those who accept Me, and through the Mercy of My only Son, can enter My Kingdom. If you are a kind and loving soul, and still reject Me – even when the Truth is made known to you – you, too, will also be cast away from Me. No eternal life will be yours.

I grant the Gift of purification upon all of you now but, in particular, to atheists and pagans. This purification will be painful but in many cases it will open their eyes to the Truth.  For those born into pagan families, and through no fault of your own, I will grant you Mercy. But for those of you who were given the Gospels and who know about the existence of the Triune God, and who now reject Me, there is little hope for you, until you turn back and atone for your sins. Then you must beg for the salvation of your soul.

 

Your Father

God the Most High

.........

The above is a message to a Catholic visionary. This same visionaries has correctly prophesy many of the things happening today, including the resignation of Pope Benedict.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:13am On Sep 30, 2013
Wait o. E never finish.

Berbatov has only 5 champions league goals in 4 years..


LWKMD. Ajigbijigbijigbi. According to Papa Ajasco.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:56pm On Sep 29, 2013
I don go sleep. Who has time for lazy Berbatov? Never ever won EPL best player. Has he ever been on EPL best XI?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:53pm On Sep 29, 2013
[b]In 2010/11, Berbatov three goals against Liverpool and one more agaist Everton were only his commendable achievements. The rest goals were against weak teams- 5 against Blackburn, 3 against Birmingham, 2 against blackpool, sunderland, fulham, bolton etc. He can't face big oppositions.

In a season of 38 fixtures, his EPL goals were in 10 fixtures. He went dry in 28 fixtures. He was not the reason we won the league. Rooney's goals and assists across several matches were more useful to the team that season.

Berbatov led the attack and could not score in 28 fixtures in the season. 28 matches a top striker went dry!!! shocked shocked shocked Shame. Yet one naiaralander is crediting him with the reason for the total points gathered that won us the title. Joke of the millennium.

Rooney playing from midfield that season contributed to goals more via goals and assists and won more matches. If not for Rooney that returned from injury we would never had won the league.

No wonder Berbatov was shipped away as a 4million pounds striker. Can anyone tell me how much losses we incurred from Berbatov deal. Did he sell any shirt for the club? Rooney has made millions of pound for us even though we were lucky to have got him for only twenty something million.


I beg I wan sleep. Berbatov is not worth my time.
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:39pm On Sep 29, 2013
coogar: who cares what united's position was? the fact is rooney wasn't scoring, he was being outplayed by berbatov/chicharito and he wanted out of united. united kept winning - beating teams left, right & centre.



heaven bless the mexican, 13 goals + 2 assists in 1491 league minutes. he scored 20 goals in all competitons that season. berbatov was even better....



this is not how to compute statistics. for example, berbatov scored a hatrick against liverpool & rooney contributed nothing in that game. it's part of the dodgy stats you are crediting rooney with just because he started. how can a passenger get the credits for what other hardworking players achieved??

giggs assisted berba's first goal, nani assisted the second & oshea assisted the third. so what's rooney's contribution in this game? why would you put a win% next to rooney's name when oshea of all people was more productive than rooney in one of the biggest games of the season?



that's a myth - nani was better!!!



a total of 5 goals were scored in the game including swansea's goal. 2 goals were scored before rooney came on(2-0) 3 goals were scored after rooney came on(2-1)
1. Goals do not tell who is the most important player in a team at anytime. Maradonna was not always the highest scorer, same with Amokackie. Rooney's return took us to the top of the league.

2. Berbatov was useless, he was only lucky to score his 20 goals in a few matches against weak EPL teams except Liverpool. In how many matches did Berbatov score? He was irrelevant in 2/3 (two third) of our fixtures that season. Rooney was our most important player and the reason we won the league.

3. Johnny Evans was the official MOTM while Rooney was second. And the fans voted Rooney as the best. Nani was struggling with fitness on the night against Liverpool.

4. Using your logic, it means RVP lost us the match against Westbrom because it was 1-1 before his arrival. But in the case of Swansea, United won it 2-1 when Rooney arrived.

What is important is that Rooney assisted two goals when we won 4-1. United has only scored from open play in two matches and Rooney contributed 5 out of the 8 goals in those matches.

The Swansea match was 2-0, Rooney came and it went to 3-0 before Swansea scored 3-1. Check your facts.
Christianity Etc › Re: Jim Iyke Delivered In Synagogue Church Of All Nations by elampiro(m): 11:23pm On Sep 29, 2013
This was how Tonto Dike said she was delivered from the spirit of cigarette smoking, then later she posted pics of india hemp wraps.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:10pm On Sep 29, 2013
coogar: was the set piece he scored from a corner? a cross or what? chart is ridiculous? opta stats is ridiculous?



rooney was sent to america to work on his weight in 10/11. berbatov/chicharito won us the league that season whilst rooney was busy haranguing united for a move to city.



rooney's presence?? a fat fool that did not score from open play between august 2010 & the new year gave us better results? in this period, chicharito was scoring freely & berbatov was scoring hatricks.



rubbish.....how's rooney the best player against liverpool??



what about the games we lost? the swansea game was won before rooney stepped foot on the pitch. welbeck & RVP had scored goals before rooney came on & that would have been enough to see united through. it was 2-0 before rooney came on & 2-1 after rooney came on.

we are better off without rooney.....



statistics paint the true picture. facts over opinion, mate. ashley young is an easy target, people tend to think he's not paid his dues unlike the other wingers in our squad but ashley has done much more than valencia or js park in the little time he's been with us......FACT!!!
1. Before Rooney returned from America, what was the position of Man United in the league?

2. How many games did Hernadez played in 2010/11 visavis Rooney?

Also Rooney started 25 games in 2010/11 with United having 64% win and 2.12 points/match, while the 13 he didnt start United had 54% win with 2.08 point per match. Virtually all the other seasons are like that since his arrival. Even last season you guys said he was poor.

3. Rooney was our best forward against Liverpool.

4. I thought the Swansea game ended 4-1. What is the 2-1 you stated above?
Christianity Etc › Re: An Exclusive Interview With Pope Francis by elampiro(m):
Ubenedictus: you should atleast try to attend mass in europe or america or at least read reports of homilys given then you will have an idea of his point
I have someone who attends Pope Francis' daily masses, and we have discussed some of his homily in another forum.

But I thought the previous Popes are from Europe? Why did they not adopt this kind of Pope Francis' method which refuses to affirm the truth?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:42pm On Sep 29, 2013
coogar: rooney was the leader in 09/10 & 11/12 season. united won nothing in those 2 seasons and rooney scored plenty of goals.



produce this dodgy statistics where rooney's presence gave us better results than his absence. his absence won us the league in 10/11. his presence lost us the league in 09/10 & 11/12. 04/05 - 08/09 cannot count, we had ronaldo, ruud, tevez, etc then.


how did rooney help you beat leverkusen when he was the culprit that made them equalise? chicharito scored against liverpool, rooney didn't. the scorer should get the credit, not a setplay assistant!!!



RVP was a late substitute. nani & kagawa don't make the amount of dosh rooney makes. rooney gets paid the wages of a world class player but his performance(at best) is even lower than mediocrity.....

opta found rooney out...rooney is shyte!!
1. Your match chart is ridiculous because Rooney scored from a set piece. If Chicharito and co failed to connect his set pieces, then it's their headache. Rooney's accuracy gave him a goal from a set piece.

2. What do you mean by absence? Apart from two season or three, how many strikers have had more games than Rooney since we started winning league again from 2006?

3. In 2010/11, Rooney presence on the field gave us better results than when he was absent. So also in almost all the seasons. So I don't get it. I can't lay my hands on the start now and I am not in for a long argument.

4. Rooney was the best player in the Leverkusen match. He also scored two great goals and assisted 1. Against Liverpool he was the best player from the midfield to attack.

5. Manchester United has only scored from open play in just two matches- Swansea and Leverkusen. A total of 8 goals were scored in the two matches and Rooney had a hand in 5 of them.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:59pm On Sep 29, 2013
coogar: these scoring & assisting are mostly from setplays. if de gea takes those setplays, he would be scoring & assisting as well.



what about the clear chances rooney had been given on a plate and yet squandered? smalling set him up with an excellent pass at city & rooney kicked the ball out of the stadium and he was only 6 yards from goal.



for the media & the plastic chair analysts. evra has done more than rooney this season.



ironically, we have lost 3 league games in this period as well. individual glory vs team glory. i think i prefer the latter. when RVP, berbatov, ronaldo were in a rich vein of form, we won games & titles. whenever rooney is scoring/assisting freely, the team fails to win.

rooney is a poisoned chalice - we are better off without him.



there's nothing to argue - rooney's goals/contribution barely help the team to cop victories. this time last season, RVP was scoring winning goals, hatricks, etc. when rooney start scoring winning goals, i would give him his credits.
Which season has ever passed without Rooney being either the most important player or one of best in the team? Statistics has shown that Rooney's presence in United starting line up has given us better result in every season since he arrived than when he dint.

I thought RVP, Nani and Giggs have taken set pieces and Rooney even missed out of some matches. How many f those set pieces were scored aside penalty? You have to be a genius to score or assist from set pieces.

Rooney helped us beat Liverkusen and Liverpool to lift our spirits in the cup competition. The league poor running is a general problem for the team and I thought City and Chelsea are also not having it funny. If Rooney didn't score from open play yesterday, we had other players- Nani, Kagawa- Chicha and RVP. Whay didn't they create their own chance?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:42pm On Sep 29, 2013
chamotex: Don't try to school me on tactics and formations.
WTF is real football tactics?

I never said there was a hole position in 4-3-3, I simply answered your question about where Rooney has been playing.

You've just stated the lineup/formation I posted earlier.
Only thing is Rooney will not be moved any time soon cos DM is not brave enough to do that for obvious reasons I have stated earlier.
So come up with another formation/line up...a realistic one
Your formtion was not 4-3-3.
Christianity Etc › Re: An Exclusive Interview With Pope Francis by elampiro(m): 9:20pm On Sep 29, 2013
Syncan: Just take a look at the bolded, it clearly states "Pope Francis focuses on a passage from the Letter to the Corinthians". Praise God! I never saw that before referring you to 2Cor 5:21. Now I see that it is clearly stated in your own post that he was talking scriptures, Alleluia!
All the fake pastors today also focus on certain verses of the scripture to mislead people from the truth.

Jesus clearly warned us against errors.
Christianity Etc › Re: An Exclusive Interview With Pope Francis by elampiro(m):
Syncan: A. Having noticed the difference in other languages, and knowing the scripture passage he was talking on, I can without doubt tell you, that the English translation of the Pope's homily, did not come out correctly.

B. I gave you link, where it was explained by those who read it in other languages, If you fail to enlighten yourself but chose the destructive way of slander, na you know.

C. Perfection of the church? In translations by Vatican secretaries? Are you high on something or what. Does infallibility cover translations and typographical errors too? The message was translated in numerous languages, I trusted the shepherd not to teach so obvious an error, so i went for clarifications and found out that it was due to translations. You searched his homily for errors; and when the evil one showed you a mirage, you went to town shouting "I have found the devils advocate".

D. I wonder where you are getting all these from, so God loves Portugal, France or Nigeria less than USA? Israel is Israel, USA is USA.

E. The Catechism of the Catholic Church explains that "Since it rejects or denies the existence of God, atheism is a sin against the virtue of religion but the imputability of the offense can be significantly diminished in virtue of the intentions and the circumstances" (CCC#2125).
It will interest you to know that the church believes that God is capable of saving whosoever he wills. The "good thief" was promised paradise, he was not a believer, he was simply the "good thief", allow God decide to what end the "good atheist" comes to. Let him do good anyway.

F.The Shepherd does not cause confusion, it is the enemy that does that. Make up your mind who Pope Francis is, "the shepherd or the enemy" and stop confusing yourself. Pray Pray Pray, says the nuestra senhora de fatima
A. If you stand on the ground that the Vatican translation of the Pope's message to the world is wrong, then you have just finished the church (institution). What is the English speaking world meant to believe again. You are putting a dent on everything in English that has ever come out of the Vatican, including the bible. Watch your lies, they can cause a great harm.

B. I don't need any link modifying the Pope's words just as you guys accused the circular papers. The Vatican news has ever been the authentic source. If anyone is misled, the Vatican should be held responsible. So don't threaten me. You do not love the church more than I do.

C. Now see the new defence 'Vatican secretary'. That translation corroborated hundreds of such released on same day together with those from catholic conservative and liberal websites.
The world do not know any secretary but the Vatican. You are reducing the church to an institution of incompetence.

D. Go and read the history of USA and their founding fathers.

E. The offence can only be diminished if the atheist doesn't outrightly reject God. But Pope Francis wrote to a renowned professed atheist who knows the church and her teachings but decided to promote completely contradicting teachings about existence of God, and the Pope assured him he was saved if he follows his conscience to do good. Haba!

F. You will soon understand something about this shepherd stuff. When you see the cardinals take action in the future, you will know which is the schismatic church or true catholic church. You will be left with a choice whether to follow errors or truth.


**** Pope Francis said atheist are saved if they do good. In another letter he said atheist are saved if they follow their conscience.

The above is different from the CCC which says (some) atheists can be saved depending on the circumstance. Note the difference. The Pope is telling them to just do good and they are saved. What is the definition of good? In accordance to the atheist conscience. I guess like sponsoring abortion and sharing free contraceptives.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:44pm On Sep 29, 2013
coogar: which ones has he got since RVP got injured? freekick against city(set play), corner vs liverpool @ OT(set play), freekick vs west brom(another set play). so what exactly is rooney doing in the team?
He scores and assist for the team.

He has a good attacking build up.

He helped us beat Liverpool

Yesterday he helped Kagawa with a clear cut chance.

You need a good team selection to excel. Rooney has been our best player so far.

Wayne Rooney has either scored or assisted all bar two of ‪#‎mufc‬'s 11 goals since coming on as a substitute at Swansea on the opening day.



I don't intend to enter into any argument.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:07pm On Sep 29, 2013
@Coogar, Rooney has some assists and goals from open play in the matches United has played so far.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:07pm On Sep 29, 2013
dademola: bros.. Welbeck shudnt be starting games for a club of utd's magnitude and class!! D nxt thing u'd say is dt we need his physical strength?about physical strength! I ask again; WHEN DID MAN UTD BECOME A BIRMIGHAM OR STOKE CITY, WHERE PPLE LIKE CAMERON JEROME and KENWYNE JONES ARE RELIED UPON, COS OF PHYSICAL STRENGTH? Look around d elite clubs in europe. Is welbeck even fit to sit on d bench at barca, madrid and bayern?
You look at the players at your disposal plus the opponent to pick your team. You must always get the right blend. Did Welbeck not score against Wigan and Swansea?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 7:58pm On Sep 29, 2013
SailorXY: Guy abeg make we no dey hype nonsense...
Cleverley, Welbeck, Young, Giggs, Rio, Valencia cannot get into match day squads of Barca or City or what-have-you not to talk of Start-up 11! Valencia can be excused for right back but that's about it. Even Carrick & Evra can only make match day squads @ best in many of these elite teams, and trust me they will be irrelevant to Man United in about 12 months from now. Its either we get out the books & sign real quality NOW then Moyes can have a base to build upon OR we start blending in the young guys who we all know are TALENTED... Any other script now won't be productive that much cuz the core of this present team simply is rubbish & Fergie was a demigod
Change should be gradual. You cannot play the young guys now just because they are talented. We only need to play one or two at a time. Don't forget the young guys handed us the worst preseason in decades.

We will be strong with the following line up:

Defence:
Best four = Rafael, Vidic, Evans and Evra. (Add Smalling and Jones for best 6.)

Midfield:
Best three: Carrick, Fellaini and Cleverly. (Add Jones and Anderson as back up)

Attacking midfield and striking: Nani, RVP, Rooney, Kagawa. (Add Valecia, Welbeck, Chicharito for back up)

The above is based on current form.

We can bring one or two players in January. Then we bring like three of four by summer. We should not be too desperate just to get addition. We should get the right players with quality. Our target now is to ensure we finish top three in the league.

Finally, since Moyes has identified that we don't have up to 5 world class players, he should work towards that now. But a coach can make world class out of his players. Mourinho Inter Milan didn't look great to win the UCL until he gave them a different mentality within two years. We Have Rooney, Nani, RVP and Vidic who are great great players in the world. We have Rafael who gives so much every time he plays. These players have showed class so far in over 80% of the time they had so far. We have Kagawa, Valencia, Jones and Welbeck, Chicharito who can be helped to greatness. Together with the young players, the program should be well planned and it will work.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 7:20pm On Sep 29, 2013
If we were to play a 4-3-3 formation yesterday, Chicha should have gone off first while Fellaini comes in. Nani, Rooney and Kagawa in the attack. Rooney and Kagawa should have been interchanging positions till RVP comes to change one of them. We could have still won that way easily.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 7:17pm On Sep 29, 2013
chamotex: Rooney has been playing in the hole...duhh

The only position left is the main striking role...so are you saying RVP should be dropped for Rooney?
I don't get it. I never implied that.

In a 4-3-3, we can have Nani/Valencia on the right, RVP in the middle and Rooney on the left.

In the real football tactics, there is nothing like hole position in a 4-3-3 formation. It's more obvious in the 4-4-2 or 4-4-1-1 formations.

May be we can now say that a formation of 4-2-1-3 should identify the hole position with the task of getting the one man to be more attack minded.

I guess I have answered your question in the best way possible.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 6:54pm On Sep 29, 2013
dademola: welbeck has played well ke? Nawa for u oo
Welbeck did very well against Wigan and Swansea. In the match against City he was sent to a strange land. Every player has his quality, it is left for the coach to understand all his most importants player and use them to get results.

If you play Chicha and the defence play deep how would he get the supplies? If you play Chicha, everyone must push forward. If the defence and midfield can't push forward, then bring in players who can help in the midfield battle. We only needed to bully Westbrom off the ball in the midfield but we failed. In fact, that was where we lost the match.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m):
debosky: Y'all can blame Moyes all you want, but how can your entire team make Amalfitano look like Maradona - running from inside his own half and scoring without anyone taking him out? huh

That should be worth a one week fine for every player involved.
That was the problem of Janujaz who gave the ball away.

Anderson who was tired and could not take him out.

And finally Ferdinand.


********** One major problem yesterday was that our defence played deep. That created a big gulf in the midfield between the attacking position of Chicharito and Nani from the rest of the team. The Westbrom guys had a party utilizing the midfield and Anderson and Carrick didn't do a good job to confront in direct tackles that would have help recover the ball quickly. The Westbrom guys were criss crossing our midfield unchallenge and it forced Rooney and Kagawa back.

If you saw it, at half time I said Moyes should choke the midfield. You have to plan on having the upper hand in midfield possession before thinking of goals. Instead of stabilizing the midfield at half time, Moyes brought Janujaz who was too attack minded and careless in keeping the ball. Had the midfield been stable and the score still deadlock, the next step would have been to unleash RVP on them. Then finally bring in that linking power from Welbeck to ensure a we retain possesion till the end to prevent them from scoring.

At the start of 2nd half we should have had Carrcikc- Fellaini- Kagawa- Nani- Rooney -Chicharito. At worst the game would have been deadlock till RVP joins the attack.

Then finally, Welbeck should have come to replace Rooney or Kagawa. The match should have ended with Carrick and Fellani in the midfield. Then Welbeck plays from the left while Kagawa/Rooney stay behind RVP and Nani from the right. Welbeck would be task with the duty to retract to help the midfield with his power. With this Moyes could have gone home with a 1-0 or 2-0.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 6:17pm On Sep 29, 2013
chamotex: I didn't say he'll play in midfield... I asked where will he play?
Where has he been playing all these while? Rooney can play anywhere in the attack.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 6:16pm On Sep 29, 2013
SailorXY: @Elampiro, I know you are desperately seeking for a villain cuz of that defeat but know this
Anderson played his role very well, he was very much involved in forward plays
Chicharito's sub was not the necessary thing, you say it was like United played a man less cuz he didn't score...put up his stats from the game let's see how much he was involved compared to other players of Man United. How better did van Persie fare??
Buttner did his thing well, he had no fault directly at his footstep so I still don't get your taunts against the young man
Januzaj took some time to settle,*I agree Kagawa's withdrawal was uncalled for* and despite the fact he lost the ball a couple of times, he still had better attempts than Young or Welbeck all season #simple
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How about Rooney deciding to lay off a return pass on the penalty spot after good work from Nani *who was still outside the box* when a shot on goal was the easier decision??
How about Ferdinand leaving acres of land between him & de Gea when he sure knew his almost crippled legs can't carry him anywhere near fast??
What did Carrick do to merit remaining on the pitch for 90mins??
Can we have expert ratings of Buttner and Anderson? Lets see the opinion of renowned bookmakers, like two or three.

I have nothing against Chicharito, had the selection been okay, he would have got a better service. However, if RVP started in his place despite the poor selection, we should have had a better balance upfront.

I don't know if anyone told Rooney not to shoot at goal again. He elected to pass to RVP and another player instead of shooting himself in two separate occasions yesterday. Nani also made the same mistake, when he should have shot, he decided to dribble to make it very clear on goal.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 5:43pm On Sep 29, 2013
chamotex: So where will Rooney play in this your 3 man midfield?
In a 4-3-3, Rooney cannot be in the midfield.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m):
SailorXY: City is offering Januzaj £45k weekly to quit United in January, which is tripple what he currently earns. There are interests from Juventus as well as from Spain, that shows the talent in this lad yet some fans are clamoring for Welbeck & Valencia to keep stinking up everywhere cuz they have "power" SMH
Remove sentiments from what transpired yesterday. Janujaz was giving away possession so carelessly. We survived to recover two but the third led to a goal.

Welbeck has played well until the Man City match. Welbeck and RVP gave us the shield and the win at Swansea. Chicharito scored one goal everyone suddenly forgot about what some players have been doing for us.

Run of games also has a way of exposing weakness of players.
Christianity Etc › Re: An Exclusive Interview With Pope Francis by elampiro(m): 5:24pm On Sep 29, 2013
Syncan: A. Yes even the bible translation is not free of errors, that's why I go a little further.

B. I produced the official spanish translation of the Popes word. You did right by reading the English version, but when you get confused, seek for enlightenment with an open mind, don't read seeking to find faults. What is the essence of those who read in other languges understanding him (as shown in my link) and you don't, its not his fault then.

C. I produced the entire article, but spambot hid it due to the volume of foreign laguage I guess, you may check out a hidden post earlier.

D. USA is just a world power( which several others had been), There is only one "Jews", their nation is Isreal.

Finally. Do not worry about me, my faith in God gives no room for panic. "...though I pass through the valley of the shadow of death, I fear no evil..." The shepherd will never abandon his flock. Schism is against the shepherd not from the shepherd. It is a grave error to schism.
A. So are you saying the Vatican radio translation of the Pope's comments contains errors? Please clarify.

B. I don't understand Spanish, and how many nairalanders undersand Spanish that you decided to give us a Spanish version? How can I read a language I don't understand? Stop trying to confuse us with Spanish.

C. Why did you have to give us a Spanish version of a comment that the Vatican clearly gave us in English. So are yu saying the Vatican is misleading the entire English speaking world? If as you claim, the Vatican has mislead the English speaking world, then where is the perfection of the church?

You can see how Pope Francis is clearly causing confusion.

D. USA and Israel are inseparable. History shows tells a lot about them. God is also revealing today what special love He has for USA, and the enemy plan to ruin it just as the enemy wants to ruin the Catholic church.

E. Let me ask you another simple question. What is the teaching of the church regarding atheist going to heaven or hell?

F. When the 'shepherd' is out to cause confusion you will see the outcome. You are going to see the Cardinals reaction soon to all these.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 1:02pm On Sep 29, 2013
Manchester United boss David Moyes says his team do not have sufficient class to win the Champions League this season. Moyes is concerned that his squad may lack the quality to challenge for Europe's top club prize.

"To win the Champions League, you need five or six world-class players, Look at Bayern Munich, they have it. Look at Barcelona, who had it in the past and Real Madrid, who have maybe got it now.

"That's the level you have to be at to win it. We've not got that yet but what we have got is experience." (Source: Skysports)

Wahala dey o.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:32pm On Sep 29, 2013
That was a god summary. Particularly as regards the rotation of defenders.

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