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You certainly do not have an idea of the history behind the person you are arguing with. I have witnessed so much in different places. Sun miracles, visible Marian apparition on the wall, etc.

I have told you, you don't love the church more than I do. I am highly pained about what I see now.

Syncan: Do you know that a group of "traditionalists" in the catholic church sees father Gobbi's messages as false? You acclaim it as true, yet claiming traditionalist. What makes John Leary's messages true? What do you know about Veronica Leuken? Which visionaries apart from the "once a boy" you mentioned, do you know in Nigeria? I have told you, say your rosaries, attend Mass, pray for the clergy, church and all. He has ridiculed no church, I am not ashamed of him, Keep your eyes open and your mouth shut, until you know what you are talking about.

I know far far more than you think. I am well grounded. I know several visionaries in Nigeria.

Lastly, I used to read the locution site you posted on this thread. So don't think I am a novice to private and public revelations.

See more from today's interview. It is painful. Everything is collapsing.


1. Speaking of his personal faith, Francis said: "A Catholic God does not exist ….

"I believe in Jesus Christ, his incarnation. Jesus is my master and my pastor, but God, the father … is the light and the creator. This is my being."

http://www.cbc.ca/m/touch/world/story/1.1874308


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2. The most surprising thing he told me was: ‘God is not Catholic.’ I asked him what he meant, since he is the leader of the Catholic Church, and he told me that ‘God is universal, and we are catholic in the sense of the way we worship him.”

The opportunity to interview the new leader of the Catholic Church was enough to awe even a seasoned reporter.

http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/10/01/20769734-pope-francis-digs-at-vaticans-narcissistic-nature-calls-for-change?lite

Syncan: You earlier said I know nothing on the issue, and i said "only if you knew..."

I told you to pray, I told you to pray, It is from experience, it is in obedience to the mother's call. You are slipping away, you are slipping away, It was Peter that was made the shepherd, It was peter that was made the shepherd. It was not your "internet visionary", It was not your "internet visionary". Wait till your prophecy of woes take place, wait till your prophecy of woes take place. The Lord has not abandoned his people, the Lord has not abandoned his people!

This prophecies are not only from Maria. John Leary clearly has been saying samething among other hundred things he said which have come to pass.

But again, listen to Pope Francis. Only today again he ridiculed the mother church. He is shaming catholics. Everything catholic is now seen to be wrong.

I had earlier left this issue but Italo wants to prove she knows too much. I ignored her she kept looking for my trouble.

italo: ^^^

1. Are you Catholic?

2. Do you believe in the teachings of the Catholic Church?

Do you believe in the word of God?

So you want me to clap when the word of God is turn upside down or twisted to please the world? Pope Francis is ridiculing Catholic tradition and his predecessor and getting ovations from pagans.

Interview 1-10-2013

"I don't like the word narcissism", the Pope said, "it indicates an excessive love for oneself and this is not good, it can produce serious damage not only to the soul of those affected but also in relationship with others, with the society in which one lives. The real trouble is that those most affected by this  -  which is actually a kind of mental disorder  -  are people who have a lot of power. Often bosses are narcissists".

Many church leaders have been.
"You know what I think about this? Heads of the Church have often been narcissists, flattered and thrilled by their courtiers. The court is the leprosy of the papacy."


http://www.repubblica.it/cultura/2013/10/01/news/pope_s_conversation_with_scalfari_english-67643118/

Look at the supposed humble Pope Francis rubbishing every tradition and ridiculing his predecessors before the media is that how it should be?

italo: Why are you denying your stance. Didnt you say you believe all Maria's prophecies?

Didnt she say the new pope would teach heresy?

Didnt you say Francis is engaging in false teaching?

Do you know that it is Catholic teaching that an anti-pope cannot come from a valid conclave?

Do you know that not submitting to the pope means you are in schism with the Church?

Do you know that you are practically excommunicated?

Do you know what you are doing at all?

Don't try to be too smart.

Where is it written in the bible that a conclave can't produce an Antipope? How come we have had bad Popes in the past, siphoning money to give their families stupendous life styles, selling of indulgences, etc.


When the Catholic church has been reduced first to the pentecostal level and finally turn upside down to a one world religion, with the Eucharist changed from the body and blood of Christ to a mere sign of communion for all peoples of all faith to share, I will know which side you shall be. When you see Cardinals splits and a major part of the church teaching that sexual sins are no longer sins and new age icons replace the crucifix and the rest, I will know which side you will be. The schismatic church will be the one teaching errors while the true Catholism will be pushed underground. Everyone including the priests will have to make a choice.

It is coming, it is starting...

To me this KAgawa talk is purely out of sentiments and not from any kind of form or play. His performance so far does not warrant him being in the first team. Everyone saw what Nani did from two separate positions. Although we have to watch out for consistency. Being consistent over several games is what separate the men from the boys.

What problems do you people have with Rooney again?

Na wao!!!

Rooney has been our best player so far. The only time Rooney has been below optimal was the 2nd half against West Brom. But Moyes should know the guy needs a rest. He has been running and tackling too much. Anyone who said he doesn't track back is not being sincere. Against West Brom he did the marking more than Kagawa, he touched the ball more often. The whole of West Brom setting was a mess. From Defence to midfield, and Chicha+Nani who decided to isolate themselves from the rest fo the team. A gradual attacking build up from midfield would have been more beneficial.

As we go to Ukraine, I should have suggested that Rooney should be rested, but again he is our most experienced and reliable warlord in Europe. It's so choke for him.

Ubenedictus: you mean you find the pope guity of heresy based on unconfirmed prophesy?

Where did I mention anything like that? All I have done so far is to analyse his statements based on the gospel of Jesus Christ and the tradition passed on b the apostles.

Please let's leave this issue for now.

Carrick has made more interceptions than any other player in the 2013/14 Premier League. Fact!

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I saw the above somewhere. Please time to get someone who can sprint and tackle. Useless stat.

I like this guy, very humble and he loves Man United. He is the only one I want Moyes to give a run of games. And Nani.



Kagawa says he has no regret for being substituted, he will improve to fight for a spot in first team Just loving his attitude.

“I thought that I would have been able to find some space to create the chances in the second half,” Kagawa said .

“In that sense I was disappointed [to have been substituted.] Sure, I wasn’t involved that much. I didn’t touch the ball enough but I was trying to be patient so I didn’t feel that bad.

“I have to take this like some kinds of message [from the manager]. I need to improve more and more, or I can not survive at this club. I have to take this in a positive way and keep trying to do my best.”

Good night people.

Let's go to Ukraine.

A player who could not make any impact in any of the knockout games couldn't have been able to kick a ball in the final.

dademola: d same berbatov dt has witnessed 2 UCL finals in manutd.. Came on as a sub in one, and in d other, D MANAGER DIDNT CONSIDER HIM GOOD ENOF TO MAKE D BENCH, DESPITE D FACT THAT HE IS STILL OUR MOST EXPENSIVE PLAYER!! SHAME ON DIMITAR BERBATOV!!

Which coach on earth would have selected a player who didn't make impact in crucial matches enroute to the final?

The UCL alone is enough to know the difference between these two players. Berbatov has only 5 UCL goals which I believe were agaist weak teams in group stage while Rooney has scored against all the big European teams in the knock out stage. I guess it's only Madrid Rooney has not scored against.

Let's move on.

Listen to SAF


The purchase of Van Persie went against the policy of a "nucleus of young players" at Old Trafford, and Sir Alex admitted the deal to bring the striker from Arsenal was heavily discussed following similar, but less successful moves in the past.

"Van Persie’s age was ­certainly an issue ­because it has not always worked when we have bought older players," he continued.

"David Gill said to me after we bought Dimitar Berbatov [from Tottenham for £30 million] that we had to be careful when signing older players, but Van Persie was ­different. He was phenomenal for Arsenal last season and so I was confident it would work.”

afrodoc: just got back from work,are guys still on this berbatov issue?

ok another one.

2010/2011 season berbatovs greatest ever EPL season he scored 20 goals which got us ELEVEN points.
the same season rooney's joint worst scoring season for United he scored 11 goals which got us TEN points.

in actual fact berbatov is not only a flat track bully he is a stat padder! he pads stats by loading goals against faecal teams that have long given up the ghost

This fact can further be strengthened by the following parameters Rooney dominated:

Number of assists
Number of clear cut chances created
Number of accurate passes from midfield.
Etc.

italo: Good. You believe all the messages. This means that you believe the message that said Pope Benedict XVI would be ousted from office.

If that prophecy came true, it means Pope Benedict XVI who said he quit by his own volition is a liar.

If that prophecy was false, it means it was not from God.

Which is it...true or false prophecy?

@Italo, I think it is enough. Hope to see you again.

They said we should pray, pray, pray.

chamotex: Gary Neville " Players will leave before Moyes"

With sir Bobby on the board, coupled with Fergie and Gill still on the board - Moyes is not going anywhere soon.

Coogar are you watching MNF?

I am in support of this.

We need to give the coach some time. But we have always complained about our players.

dademola: y u still dey reason d matter? Afrodoc has shown us hw useless berba's goals were......

I have left the matter. Berba's goals were only relevant in 3 wins and 2 draws. Remove his goals, the rest matches he scored would still have been won.

SailorXY: .

That illustration of Carrick poor attitude to direct confrontation is what I have always written so much about. We need midfielders who will not shadow mark or run backwards to join our defence in the 18 box, but midfielders who go for direct confrontation and tackles.

This was why I suggested Alex Song, I am not saying he is the best we can get, but such a player would have brought a different dimension to us- energy, direct tackles and force. Fellaini seems to have element of that kind of approach but his lack of speed is a big hindrance. I have seen Song this season for Barca, the guy is still very okay.

Bye.

See you again.

Syncan: You make me laugh...only if you knew...

Say it. I want to know. We all are exchanging knowledge.

Syncan: A very good advice, you've just given yourself. Keep your mouth shut until you know what you're talking about.

Discussing the Pope teachings has no implication. He has taught errors as foretold by Maria messages. More will come.

If I decided to withheld any evidence, it is not because I am not sure, but because I am considering spiritual immaturity of many.

But I get your advise though.

Syncan: I. My friend you are not dealing with novices here. Her internet name is Maria, just like mine is Syncan. What is the name of her spiritual director? I gave you a name when I quoted anther visionary. I reiterate, no one has seen Maria! She writes: "The woman wishes to be known by the name Maria Divine Mercy and says that it is the wish of Jesus that she remains anonymous to protect her family and to avoid any distraction from the messages."

2. Hogwash. I have followed all those messages, mind you Medjugorje and Garabandal have not received approvals. Your maria may "tap" some of these to develop his/her's. But Hogwash is what I'll use in describing the rest.

3. At least the Visionaries here submitted to the authorities, while yours prophesy from the comfort of his/her closet. Test every spirit is the mandate given to people of God, how do we do this effectively, without seeing the instrument? Let him/her continue to spread milleniarism which has already been condemned by the church (see CCC 676). Yeah and do not forget Nostradamus, his predictions came true as well, you can make him top of your list.

Her name is Maria. Why should the name of the spiritual director be mentioned when there is an instruction to keep quite. I have had a chat with a priest who works with Maria.

You don't know much about the church teachings about private revelations. The church did not say the faithful should not listen or discern such.


In Nigeria a popular seer with messages of coming apostacy has a bishop as his spiritual director. The bishop was chosen by Jesus and he accepted. Before then, the seer who was little boy had no prior knowledge of the bishop.

italo: @ Elampiro,

You believe all the messages attributed to this "Maria" are true?

Yes. That is because the messages are happening in our world today. On a global scale.


However, there are some things I have withheld from this argument because I don't want t cause an irreparable damage. I might produce them in the future should certain things become clearer.

italo: How do you know this person? How do you know her name is Maria? How do you know she is Irish? Which Bishop is her Spiritual Director?

In short, how do you know any such person exists?

Some members of the prayer group all over the world (particularly some people from USA and Ireland) said they have met her. And they said she is one and same person, same voice in her interview posted to youtube.