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Travel / Re: General UK Visa Enquiries by ell77(f): 2:20pm On Oct 11, 2009
BABABABA:

@ell77

keep it up,u r doin a great job.i visited your website and i hv recommended it to some of my friends and i do hope they will contact u as soon as u complete your registration of your business in Nigeria.More grease to your elbow.

Thanks, for your encouraging words, happy to be of service.

I am already registered in UK.

Nigeria's registration process is not as transparent as it is in the UK. But I have met a lawyer from this forum whom I believe is quite honest and will probably be using his service. But before I use him, I have to obtain an office in Nigeria which I am still searching for through agents. Any recommendations nairaland? Sorry - off topic.
Travel / Re: General UK Visa Enquiries by ell77(f): 12:45pm On Oct 11, 2009
Khadie:

@Ell77: thanks for sharing this video and just for curiosity sake, was that you in the video?

@Khadie:
That's okay, don't mention it, I will try to post some more, to make life easier for people.
No that is not me in the video, I don't own the video either.
Here is another video:

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=keBOZ9rFuuk[/flash]
Travel / Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered by ell77(f): 12:19pm On Oct 11, 2009
cluster:

I made 2.1 in bus admin frm unilag and i intend studying marketing for my msc or any course along the line of my 1st degree.As for bsc it is a mistake i mean medcine for junior who want 2 b medical doctor

Okay. Medicine is very competitive and often requires interviews to obtain offer letters even for international students, though exceptions may apply.

Most Marketing courses should not require an interview unless your personal statement makes them suspect your communication/English skills may not be up to scratch, but they want to give you a chance (i.e. poor grammar, vocabulary, spelling etc). Interview for a marketing MSc in this case may be conducted over the phone and is unlikely to involve a face to face interview. But face to face interviews with international students often happens with medicine applicants.

Here is the basic step by step:
1. Start off with a written application to the university. For an undergraduate degree like medicine, this is often done through UCAS [/b]with early deadlines. See http://www.ucas.ac.uk for more information. But some universities may accept direct undergraduate applications for international students only. For [b]masters courses universities accept direct applications.
2. [/b]Once you have received and interview letter (if applicable), then passed the interview (for medicine it will likely be quite rigorous), you may be given a [b]conditional [/b]offer letter. This conditional offer letter depends on any exam results not yet available and/or paying part of the tuition fee.
[b]3.
Once you have filled whatever requirements were listed in the conditional offer letter you will receive an UNconditional [/b]offer letter that you are supposed to respond to confirming your acceptance of their offer (often an attached slip/letter).
[b]4.
You will then be sent your visa letter. It is the visa letter and the supporting documents listed in the visa letter (basically the things they said were used to give you the offer e.g. WAEC, transcript etc - this varies), along with your bank statements for the other PBS points (which you appear to be informed about) that you then use to apply to the UKBA via the VFS.

Hope that helps. Good luck.

Regards,


DegreeAngel UK Ltd
Travel / Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered by ell77(f): 12:11pm On Oct 11, 2009
cluster:

I made 2.1 in bus admin frm unilag and i intend studying marketing for my msc or any course along the line of my 1st degree.As for bsc it is a mistake i mean medcine for  junior who want 2 b medical doctor

Ok. Medicine is very competitive and often requires interviews to obtain offer letters even for international students, though exceptions may apply.

Most Marketing courses should not require an interview unless your personal statement makes them suspect your communication/English skills may not be up to scratch, but they want to give you a chance (i.e. poor grammar, vocabulary, spelling etc). Interview for a marketing MSc in this case may be conducted over the phone and is unlikely to involve a face to face interview. But face to face interviews with international students might happen for medicine applicants. Here is the basic step by step:
1. Start off with a written application to the university. For an undergraduate degree like medicine, this is often done through UCAS [/b]with early deadlines. See http://www.ucas.ac.uk for more information. But some universities may accept direct undergraduate applications for international students only. For [b]masters courses universities accept direct applications.
2. [/b]Once you have received and interview letter (if applicable), then passed the interview (for medicine it will liekly be quite rigorous), you may be given a [b]conditional [/b]offer letter. This conditional offer letter depends on any exam results not yet available and/or paying part of the tuition fee.
[b]3.
Once you have filled whatever requirements were listed in the conditional offer letter you will receive an UNconditional [/b]offer letter that you are supposed to respond to confirmating your acceptance of their offer (often an attached slip/letter).
[b]4.
You will then be sent your visa letter. It is the visa letter and the supporting documents listed in the visa letter (basically the things they said were used to give you the offer e.g. WAEC, transcript etc - this varies), along with your bank statements for the other PBS points (which you appear to be informed about) that you then use to apply to the UKBA via the VFS.

Hope that helps. Good luck.

Regards,


DegreeAngel UK Ltd
Travel / Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered by ell77(f): 11:57am On Oct 11, 2009
justwise:

Its basically saying that if u are applying from outside the UK that the funds must be held in your account for at least 28 days but if u are applying within UK then the fund could be paid into your account the same day u made your application.
This change wil start from 1 October 2009.
B4 the issue of 28days applies to every applicant but now its for pple applying from outside the UK.

ell77 will throw more light.


Yup that's basically what it means. Thanks Justwise! wink
Travel / Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered by ell77(f): 11:53am On Oct 11, 2009
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2Q2ierr8aQ[/flash]

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Your UK contact address on landing card, may be your university, if you have yet to obtain accommodation in UK.
Travel / Re: General UK Visa Enquiries by ell77(f): 11:41am On Oct 11, 2009
Travel / Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered by ell77(f): 1:12pm On Oct 10, 2009
BABABABA:

my sponsor told me that he will withdraw £2000 from my account immidiately i applied for my student visa and he promised to put the money back within 4 days after the withdrawal,am confused now.what is the implication of this?he argued that atleast the money has been held for the expected 28 days.pls i need help

@Babababa - It is not my personal opinion that it will affect your application. However, I have never advised any of my applicants to touch the money until they receive their visa, so I have not personally witnessed, the effects of withdrawing money - their be no effects or the effect could be bad.

Since your sponsor only needs it for four days, why doesn't he/she wait until you get your visa? He has come this far with you. To wait two weeks should not be so much as he/she has already waited 28 days. If it is urgent though, I suppose you don't have a choice, its his money not yours. My own opinion is that it will not affect your visa, but this is based on opinion not on fact. There have been no formal warnings by UKBA not to withdraw money - however, the money is supposed to be for the purpose of your studies. Technically you have met criteria, the only way they can reject you, is if they doubt your genuineness - but under this new system, I believe you can contest this was an unfair excuse as you indeed met criteria they laid out.

Hope that has been helpful, print your statement and at least apply before any necessary withdrawals. All the best!
Travel / Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered by ell77(f): 12:59pm On Oct 10, 2009
@Dirac
Ahh. So the money in your parents account equals the full year's tuition fee (apart from the £4,000 already paid) + the maintenance fee? If so then you can use their account to apply, just make sure you also have that receipt or that it has been printed as having paid £4000 on your visa letter. I understand the confusion because of this written on UKBA website:

Personal bank or building society statements covering a 28-day period ending no more than one month before the date of your application

Your personal bank or building society statements should show:

   * your name, or the name of the child's parent(s) or legal guardian(s) if applicable in the case of a child student;
   * the account number;
   * the date of the statement;
   * the financial institution's name and logo; and
   * the amount of money available.

You can use bank statements that are for a specific purpose (also known as 'ad hoc') as evidence, as long as:

   * they include all of the information above; and
   * they are printed on paper with the letterhead of the bank.

You cannot use mini-statements from cash machines (ATMs) as evidence.

You can use electronic bank statements from an online account if they include all the
information above. Each electronic bank statement should be stamped by the official
stamp of the bank on every page of the statement.

If you want to use a joint account as proof of your money, you must be named on the account along with at least one other person.

HOWEVER THIS WAS THE UPDATE THEY IMPLEMENTED:

What changes are you making?
Today we are announcing changes to the maintenance rules to resolve some of the issues that Universities have alerted us to.
From 21 August we will allow all students to use a bank account in their parent’s name to evidence that they meet the maintenance requirement. We plan to publish an update to the guidance on 21 August with further details.
We are changing the maintenance requirements under Tier 4 to allow all students of any age to use a bank account in their parent’s name to evidence that they meet the maintenance requirement.
Previously we only allowed students applying under the child student route, up to the age of 18 to use their parent’s bank account to evidence that they meet the maintenance requirement.

All the best!  smiley
Travel / Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered by ell77(f): 10:20am On Oct 10, 2009
Dirac:

hello ell77. I have paid 4000GPB tuition deposit(half of the tuition) to the skool I am applying for. My start date was 21 September but my visa letter(which arrived late) stated that that my registration deadline is 30th October. I have the remaining funds, including maintenance in my parents a/c and also my a/c(i.e 9400 in my a/c and another 9400+++ in my parent's a/c). but the money in my a/c is not up to 28 days but that of my parents meet the requirement. What do u advice do I show statements of just my parents a/c or I show both my parents a/c and mine because mine is not up to 28 days

@Dirac - I am afraid you must wait until both all amounts have been held for a minimum of 28 days in your account. One option will be to contact your university and ask for an extension, explain to them you sent the money as a commitment and your dream is to study there but, because of your circumstance (be honest), you will probably not be able to make it for that date. Speak to enough people until you get someone who will help you, if they so "We do not that - it is against policy", then ask them "okay who deals with policy, since I know you are only trying to do the right thing perhaps if I speak to them things can be changed". I have helped my students with such universities who have strict policies. All the best okay!

cluster:

Pls can u brief me on procedure to take in get addmission from uk university for bsc and msc programe cos pbs is lot easier am familar with american system which differ from uk system

@Cluster
Well, if you are fully knowledgeable about the PBS system, then that makes life much easier for you. But the way you apply to a university really differs from university to university, especially between BSc and MSc. What will really help me answer your question more thoroughly is if you give me details of exactly what it is you are interested in in terms of course and perhaps career if your not sure of the course. Let me know your background also - then I can give you a step by step plan. You can also check out my website for courses I help students apply to at CERTAIN universities, FREE of charge:
http://www.degreeangel.co.uk

Look forward to hearing from you both - on your progress and views! smiley
Travel / Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered by ell77(f): 7:37pm On Oct 09, 2009
jossy26:

@ell tnx 4 your reply.2 clarify my last post,waec misplaced my cert and d option dey gave me is using a confirmation of result addresed to BHC dats y m askin if anyone has used it to get a student visa?and again any 1 dt v used it did u open d letter cos m sure it will b in a sealed envelope wt waec confidential stamp on it
@jossy

Sorry for the delay, today has been very busy. Okay I believe funkybaby has kindly answered you in another forum so there is little help I need to give you. What I will say is that peoples supporting documents are not based on a general list per se. Apart from the visa letter and financial statements, the most necessary documents are defined by the UKBA as those documents the university used in selecting you. Some add transcripts because on their visa letter it implies the university looked at that, some add SSCE, cos this was implied on their visa letter. You must look at your visa letter to gauge which documents you need, but by and large most people have used SSCE as well as university results, so I imagine you will need this. As you are already working on this - good luck. If you have enough time, I am sure you will be successful.

BABABABA:

thanks NL for your contribution to my enquiry

That's okay! wink

justwise:

Good luck with the whole process,u will be ok.

Ditto! grin

Thank you everyone for your contribution to these cases it is really heart warming to know some of us still look after our fellow man. smiley
Travel / Re: General UK Visa Enquiries by ell77(f): 7:31pm On Oct 09, 2009
erico2k2:

for those of you arguing about rent deposit etc, there is a lawin the Uk which states that Landlords are only allowed to collect one month rent in advance and one month in hand ie you need to have two months rent to start living in a single room,guys  dont get it wrong,everybody who comes to the Uk start with one room unless your parents or relatives are here who own thier own house,same law is what Lagos state govt are trying to introduce.
So in all there aint  no way anyone is gonna ask you to pay up to 6months rent as someone said on here,thats a practical scam,you however may be required to sign a 6months contract ie you will have to live there for 6 months B4 you are allowed to move out  and take you deposit.

@Erico - thank you for this point, it is a very important one. The a landlord can only ask for one month deposit by law but may ask for any amount in 'advance rent' - this is less regulated. One month is more common for those who have full-time jobs or a guarantor. However, if a landlord perceives risk of default i.e. those on benefits or those without regular employment such as students. It is not uncommon for them to ask for 6 months deposit in advance, it is their choice to do so, you may choose another property if you are not interested. This seems to happen more to foreign students compared to home students - I guess it is an unfortunate perceived bias of them being more able to run away (and is not a scam in the sense of being illegal but is quite unfair). To me, it is not advisable to pay this amount if you can find a landlord elsewhere who is more reasonable, but some people are forced to accept. Of course there have been some cases of litigation where landlords collected 6 months advance rent and the court decided that this was illegally being used as a deposit with a false name as 'advance rent'. But you will find the number of said cases are rare. It is very important to work out terminology when reading contracts - I suggest all new students go to their international advisors at their universities for help with contracts on arrival.

This link from a university shows what has been happening but what that university may provide to assist those being asked for 6 months in advance rent. Check if yours can do the same:
http://www.plymouth.ac.uk/pages/view.asp?page=18633

funkybaby:

and many have been refused as a result of not having a place to be accommodated in the UK

am not going to enter into an arguement/discussion with you on this.

its really up to the applicant to do what he decides.

Okay that's fine - I don't believe we are arguing, we are merely offering opinions for the same goal - to help this prospective student. I am happy to see caring Nigerian's like you, you need to keep up the good work - i have pretty much agreed with every opinion or thought you have put forward so far. The reason I put forth my own opinion is the fact that the applicant does not have time to take your option and if he took the time, he would be rejected on the basis of applying too late (it will take time to confirm payments and contract). Many visiting visas receive rejection because of no accommodation and it is possible this happened with student visas under the old scheme too - but the point I am trying to get across is it is not necessary under this new scheme. I understand your points and the old scheme was very subjective so we all were rushing to tick boxes we were not sure existed or not as you could be rejected over anything - but that was the whole point of PBS. At the beginning of PBS perhaps some people were rejected for not having accommodation even if they had the required fees - I have not personally witnessed this in the PBS period, but I believe you that it might have happened since you said so: this is a mistake on the part of the BHC then and an administrative review would have sorted that out. Probably more likely in the beginning stages of the new system as everyone was still thinking with the old system in mind, this is less likely now as the new process is now more familiar to them. My latest student got his visa after 11 working days from Ikeja, he did not have accommodation even though his university provides accommodation (he didn't get halls of residence because the waiting list for accommodation linked to his university had started from May and he started his application in September), he left that space blank. But had all the money needed to cover him, I am currently searching for private accommodation for him. He will take this accommodation list to his university for further advice and a letter supporting his studies here.
Travel / Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered by ell77(f): 10:33am On Oct 09, 2009
@jossy- i will answer soon.
Travel / Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered by ell77(f): 10:30am On Oct 09, 2009
I am writing from my phone. So pls excuse writing. on arrival he can stay at a hotel or a backpackers hostel. not all unis have halls of residence and those that do cannot give to all. most give international students pref but not all. some require deposit some holding fee some more. the issue is does ukba require it. the answer is NO. i can give example of successful student visas that have not put uk accom. would make his stay easier if he had halls - but is not needed for visa.
Travel / Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered by ell77(f): 8:12am On Oct 09, 2009
funkybaby:


maintenance funds or not. its advisable he shows evidence of where he will be accommodated while he is studying.  and i guess the poster has probably never been to the UK before. so where is he going to stay? even if its just for 2weeks . . . . till he knows his way around.



as easy as PBS looks, people are still been refused for silly reasons and minor errors.


even if he escapes it now, it will be an issue for him at the port of entry. so why take chances with the initial visa application. look for some cheap accommodation. even if its a 200pounds deposit, pay it and get a contract or something.

just my opinion though.
justwise:

I agree with the points u made there. As a student, u are expected to have an accommodation, either school accommodation or private rented houses. The school will not give u a place to stay if u did not pay for one in advance.

@Funky Baby & justwise - Again, thank you for your contribution - This is a good opinion, worked out with common sense. But the UKBA does not operate like this.

Many have been given student visas without accommodation in UK.

His school does not own/offer halls of residence (hostel) to him (not every school does) so he cannot get the easiest option.

If he wanted to pay for accommodation before leaving, the lowest deposit accepted in UK is a months rent as deposit plus the first months rent in advance i.e. two months. This comes up to on average £400-£800 for just a room shared in a house with others, lets not talk about him getting his own accommodation. Also for private accommodation - unless you can provide a guarantor or are working full-time, most private landlords take it as a given you must produce 6 months deposit i.e. £1200 - £2400 on average for one room shared in a house with others. There are exceptions to this, but these cases are rare. I doubt he can get this.

There are currently scam artists in UK who will advertise property and will collect a deposit without you meeting them, only for you to find out, they do not even own the property. His best way of avoiding this is either getting halls of residence - which isn't an option for him, or by getting the accommodation and paying for it with a CONTRACT on arrival to UK.

Example:
http://forums.gumtree.com/about158808.html&highlight=

So he cannot have accommodation before coming to UK. UKBA does not require it. If he has money in his maintenance amount required by UKBA, part of this will be used to pay for accommodation. Which if enough should not take him long to move into a place in the region he goes to school. Most house owners right now are desperate to fill empty rooms, as they find they can't sell their home. Also the process of verifying accommodation and receiving proof of this accommodation by mail/courier would take more time which he does not own.
Travel / Re: General UK Visa Enquiries by ell77(f): 8:10am On Oct 09, 2009
funkybaby:

maintenance funds or not. its advisable he shows evidence of where he will be accommodated while he is studying. and i guess the poster has probably never been to the UK before. so where is he going to stay? even if its just for 2weeks . . . . till he knows his way around.

as easy as PBS looks, people are still been refused for silly reasons and minor errors.

even if he escapes it now, it will be an issue for him at the port of entry. so why take chances with the initial visa application. look for some cheap accommodation. even if its a 200pounds deposit, pay it and get a contract or something.

just my opinion though.

@Funky Baby - This is a good opinion, worked out with common sense. But the UKBA does not operate like this.

Many have been given student visas without accommodation in UK.

His school does not own/offer halls of residence (hostel) to him (not every school does) so he cannot get the easiest option.

If he wanted to pay for accommodation before leaving, the lowest deposit accepted in UK is a months rent as deposit plus the first months rent in advance i.e. two months. This comes up to on average £400-£800 for just a room shared in a house with others, lets not talk about him getting his own accommodation. Also for private accommodation - unless you can provide a guarantor or are working full-time, most private landlords take it as a given you must produce 6 months deposit i.e. £1200 - £2400 on average for one room shared in a house with others. There are exceptions to this, but these cases are rare. I doubt he can get this.

There are currently scam artists in UK who will advertise property and will collect a deposit without you meeting them, only for you to find out, they do not even own the property. His best way of avoiding this is either getting halls of residence - which isn't an option for him, or by getting the accommodation and paying for it with a CONTRACT on arrival to UK.

Example:
http://forums.gumtree.com/about158808.html&highlight=

So he cannot have accommodation before coming to UK. UKBA does not require it. If he has money in his maintenance amount required by UKBA, part of this will be used to pay for accommodation. Which if enough should not take him long to move into a place in the region he goes to school. Most house owners right now are desperate to fill empty rooms, as they find they can't sell their home.
Travel / Re: General UK Visa Enquiries by ell77(f): 7:23pm On Oct 08, 2009
BABABABA:

pls do i have to show evidence of accomodation becos the college does not have any hall of residence,the college advised that if i can show £7200 meant for maintance in my account it will be good enough,that i shld not bother myself paying any estate agent for accomodation letter.pls what is your opinion about this?is it true that the ECO dont look out for accomodation letter again?dont u think the ECO might ask where do u want to live in your first few days in the UK as they normarly do b4 the tier 4 PBS.pls dont say my ques is too much ooo.i am just trying to get advise becos the PBS system is new to me
Khadie:


There is  a place in the self assessment form under PBS that asked if your accommodation fee has being paid to your sponsor and if you say no, I want to think that the part where you will have to show that you have sufficient fund to cover outstanding expenses in the form will help as your account details will back up the fact that you do have the fund. House what do you think?

Khadie is perfectly spot on.
Travel / Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered by ell77(f): 7:22pm On Oct 08, 2009
BABABABA:

pls do i have to show evidence of accomodation becos the college does not have any hall of residence,the college advised that if i can show £7200 meant for maintance in my account will good enough,that i shld not bother myself paying any estate agent for accomodation letter.pls what is your opinion about this?dont u think the ECO might ask where do u want to live in your first few days in the UK as they normarly do b4 the PBS.pls dont say my ques is too much ooo.i am just trying to get advise becos the PBS system is new to me.

You do not need to show a UK address. The UK recognises paying for accommodation before you move in does not always seem favourable. Also if you pay for accommodation and are rejected a visa it is unlikely you can receive funds back. So don't pay for accommodation, you may leave the UK contact address blank. I believbe that is part of the guidelines.

That is okay.
Fashion / Re: Nigerian Girls Are The Most Beautiful In Africa! by ell77(f): 9:10am On Oct 08, 2009
vislabraye:

Enough about Nigerian girls. What about Nigerian guyz grin

Well, if you think Nigerian girls are beautiful they are the mother's of Nigerian men so the men must be handsome.
But if you think they are ugly, how will they bring forth handsome men?
So the answer applies to both in this case.
Which do you vote for?  grin
Politics / Re: 'All Nigerians Are Corrupt', Says Oprah Winfrey by ell77(f): 9:27pm On Oct 07, 2009
ceasyc:

continued
oprah DID NOT say so
it was d people dat came on the show that talked about their experiences
and investigations


I DONT STATE WOT I DONT KNOW UNLIKE SOME PEOPLE!

at the end of the show,oprah said this
"I know we're going to get a letter from somebody saying that Nigeria has a
lot of wonderful people. You don't have to send the letter," Oprah says. "We
already know that. We're just talking about this particular scam that's going on.
We're not talking about the entire country and everybody in the country."


SO WHERE D HELL DID SHE SAY WOT U QUOTED/THE POINTLESS ALLEGATIONS?
GO TO HER SITE (OPRAH.COM) AND U CAN READ D 17 PAGES OF THAT SHOW!!!

in d space search oprah.com, type in cunning cons , click go/search and read!!!

@ceasyc - Thanks for the clarification, I am glad there are people like you able to defend people's names. I was shocked and angry when I heard this and even googled it to find the video. When i could not find full length. I didn't know what to think or suspect. Good job! Hope others see your post! undecided
Travel / Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered by ell77(f): 9:19pm On Oct 07, 2009
BABABABA:

thanks ell77,but if i may ask do u mean my personal bank statement of account held for at least 28 days with the required amount and a letter from my bank will be enough to prove availability of fund?becos somebody told me that the two set of documents stand in isolation and i make him to understand that the PBS is more transparent compared to the old immigation rule ,kindly enlighten me becos i am really confused about the documents to prove availability of fund apart from the two set of documents mentioned above.

Yes your bank statement and a letter from the bank confirming this is your account are all you need to prove your maintenance and tuition fees (some successfully omit the latter). Some of the major exceptions being:
- If you paid some of your course fees and this is not highlighted in the visa letter you will need a receipt for this.
- If some of the money is from parents your will need their account details also.
- If you are receiving a loan from your bank or an international organization you will need official letter etc for this also.
Romance / Re: Why Do Ladies Run After Handsome Guys? by ell77(f): 9:14pm On Oct 07, 2009
So their children will be fine.
Fashion / Re: Nigerian Girls Are The Most Beautiful In Africa! by ell77(f): 9:13pm On Oct 07, 2009
michelin89:

She looks average for Eastern standards.

@michelin89
Did this guy not see the Nigerian girls whose photos are displayed on the first page before he posted this picture? I don't understand how he thought this picture was better. Beauty really is in the eye of the beholder!
Travel / Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered by ell77(f): 8:56pm On Oct 07, 2009
BABABABA:

do i have to show the source of the money held in my account for 28 days ?the money was deposited into my personal account by my father but he has got no payslip or certificate of incorporation to show the source of his income ?

It is not part of the requirements for a UK student visa.
Travel / Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered by ell77(f): 8:31pm On Oct 07, 2009
b.iriah:

the money you need to show for the student visa, does it need to be in one account only or the money can be lodged in two separate accounts, for instance the money in the two accounts will add up to the money i need to show

@ b.iriah
The money needs to be in your account, the account of your parents or a combination of the two. It can be in multiple accounts if it meets these requirements. But you must present the information clearly and write oanda conversion on each. To make it clearer you can reference and write this total of sums i.e.
Exhibit A - TOTAL SUM:
-Supporting bank statement 1 shows £4000 belonging to Miss Lola Thomas (the applicant),
-Supporting bank statement 2 shows £4000 belonging to Miss Lola Thomas (the applicant),
-Supporting bank statement 3 shows £10,000 belonging to Mr Kunle Thomas (the applicant's father - please see exhibit B for parental statement of consent/financial sponsorship).

Total Sum=£18,000 please check statements for individual conversion rates and Naira amounts held.
Travel / Re: General UK Visa Enquiries by ell77(f): 8:31pm On Oct 07, 2009
b.iriah:

the money you need to show for the student visa, does it need to be in one account only or the money can be lodged in two separate accounts, for instance the money in the two accounts will add up to the money that i need to show?

The money needs to be in your account, the account of your parents or a combination of the two. It can be in multiple accounts if it meets these requirements. But you must present the information clearly and write oanda conversion on each. To make it clearer you can reference and write this total of sums i.e.
Exhibit A - TOTAL SUM:
-Supporting bank statement 1 shows £4000 belonging to Miss Lola Thomas (the applicant),
-Supporting bank statement 2 shows £4000 belonging to Miss Lola Thomas (the applicant),
-Supporting bank statement 3 shows £10,000 belonging to Mr Kunle Thomas (the applicant's father - please see exhibit B for parental statement of consent/financial sponsorship).
Travel / Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered by ell77(f): 5:36pm On Oct 07, 2009
i-toro:

@ell77: Thx 4 your advice. Actually am working so i`ve 2 make sure i hv d stamp on my passport b4 tendering my resignation notice.Moreover it was ready for collection on the 5th Oct(29Sep is just d day it was stamped).

@i-Toro: Then you don't have a problem, one week is perfectly reasonhable to get your things together. But if you are still uncertain, how about taking your annual eave before handing in your notice? Or asking your employer for one year sabattical?

All the best - either way, you are coming to UK!

b.iriah:

@ell77.

i was recently refused a student visa to the uk--today actually,im quite devastated to be honest.

Anyway, i want to re apply but i'm thinking of the 28 day rule which came into effect on the 1st and i was wondering if you knew whether it would affect me since i am re-applying.

Also, if someone were to sponsor my education, like my uncle, for instance and i include a letter of consent with my application, do you think it would be suspicious, because i was refused on the grounds of incomplete maintenance funds. I scored 30 points for the visa letter, since i am going to be boarding in an independent school, i only need to show course fees for a year which is 19,507 gbp, but i only managed to show 11,300 gbp. Your views would be greatly appreciated.

@ b.iriah : Sorry to he hear this. Your rejection was, however to be expected. There are really only two criteria:
1. Having the offer and eveidence to support this.
2. Having the money asked for and evidence to supprt this.

It is not a case of they will just 'allow you' - even if you were N100 out due to currency fluctuations they have the RIGHT to reject you let alone £8,000. That's roughly N2 million Naira. They are not desperate for you to come to UK. They make thier money from your visa application anyway!

You need the full maintenance fee for the year and tuition fee in your account or the acount of your parents. Your uncle does not count, unless he is your legal guardian i.e. you are an orphan and he has legally adopted you. Apply again if your course has not yet begun (you cannot do administrative review as the fault was on your part) and is still at least a month away but not more than 6 months away i.e. the rare November courses, and larger number of January, February, March and April courses.

You must have the full money in your account for 28 days since it is a new application and as soon as you have this you must apply within a month of the balance statement. You must apply as if you had made no previous application i.e. you need a new visa letter if the date has changed and you must submit all supporting documents again.

Hope this helps?

All the best.

DegreeAngel UK Ltd
Travel / Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered by ell77(f): 8:56am On Oct 07, 2009
dayonuel:

@ell77, your doing a g8t job. keep it up.
my problem goes thus; i reapplied for a student visa since mid last month, it was just granted yesterday but the school has already resumed with extention given also lapsed. the school as however refused to grant any resumption extension again. The only option i have now is to defer till jan, 2010 but the clearance entry given states from 30/09/09, do you think i will have any problems travellin in dec as against jan that my deferrment will be confirmed on the new letter that will be issued by the school?

@dayonel - you have two options:
1. Try to enter the UK with your visa for the course hoping you will not be asked for your visa letter at entry and that the school was strictly against writing visa letters with longer extension because of the UKBA but will accept you if you arrive. You can also change your school with your visa although the process is long, so maybe if you ask them straight up if they would accept you if you entered the school without the written extension you will find that this is okay. TWO MAJOR PROBLEMS WITH THAT IS: you could be reufsed at entry and will have lost your flight money without even leaving the airport or if by some chance you escape the entry officer and enter and your school does not let you in you could be seen as staying illegally as your school may report to the UKBA that you are in UK but not in their school! You can see why this option is not really recommendable although for some people in certain circumstances it may be ok.

2. Apply to your school again for January intake now you should have had money in your account for close to 28days by now so when you receive the letter apply for a new visa for January, this will leave you plenty of time. You can't use the visa you have already. You will only have lost the previous visa fee. But N150k for flight ticket is not near the visa fee is it?! Once you have that visa you can enter the UK up to one month before your course starts i.e. December.
Travel / Re: Somali Girls Are The Most Beautiful In Africa! by ell77(f): 9:04pm On Oct 06, 2009
chic2pimp:

Yeah right undecided. Keep lying to yourself.

Lol. It was an exaggeration. Just to let you know how many Nigerian women are biased in connection to Nigerian men. Not all - but many! I am telling you my experience, yours [b]can [/b]be different - it does not have to be the same. I have seen Ghanaians and Nigerians fighting each other and Nigerian women disgrace the Ghanaian men based on stereotypes even though in front of their eyes they can see their stereotypes are not true.

Example of Jamaican girl(JL), Nigerian Girl (NG) and Nigerian man(NM) dialogue I witnessed:

JL: "Why is it many Nigerian date Jamaicans cos of passports - but Ghanaian African are okay - they are much better".

NM: "You are probably with Ghanaian cos you can't get a Nigerian - everyone knows they are second rate Nigerian wannabe's - Nigerians are more successful."

JL: "That's not true, my Ghanaian boyfriend, is caring, intelligent and works in a Big 4 accounting firm, he is better than the last Nigerian man I dated."

NG: "Yes but I am sure he is black as the night (sounded racist), short, ugly and pronounces Church as Chech!"

The NG girl had met this Ghanaian guy as had I and he did not fit any of these stereotypes.

You can imagine. Instead of the them to leave her biased comment and maybe even attack her at most, not only does the man defend his men. The woman annihilates Ghanaian men unfairly. I am not like this and I know other Nigerian women who are not like this and some who are. Yet if you check it, and ask them (the defensive ones) - they personally do not have anything against Ghanaian men. They are just defensive on behalf of Nigerian men. They might cuss them themselves, but would never say it to others or allow others to do so.

I am certain I am not the only Nigerian girl who has witnessed this in UK. This is what I meant previously in the post you highlighted bold.
Travel / Re: Somali Girls Are The Most Beautiful In Africa! by ell77(f): 8:27pm On Oct 06, 2009
nene1:

I am like you were too with your dating preferences. If it was not a man from my country, it was another west african.l That was the farthest I would go. But now I don't care as long as the guy is a muslim.

I agreed with everything you said especially the stuff I highlighted in bold. When you said that we were the only race with such a high proportion of men who think other women are better looking, that was very true. I think that is the reason why some of the females here including myself get annoyed with threads like these saying how we are not as good looking or as good in other aspects to as other women. and why can't we be like them and so on,

I understand.

ikeyman00:

@@@@

somalia

hhhahaa oh well

one thing certain; this a chance for yall to see the views these east africans have on yall

cant say more lipsrsealed they think u talk like a monkey hhhaaaaaaaa, big nose etc

but there u go; messed up monkeys haaaaa

You can imagine! The only people that seem to respect Nigerian men for being Nigerians are Nigerian women and yet the opposite is not always the case. I know many Nigerian women who will rate a successful handsome Ghanaian as second rate to a Nigerian agbero. Fine, it nice to see these patriotic women even though i can feel sorry for those non-Nigerian men who dare to stand next to a Nigerian man. But why the imbalance in this unflinching bias? Even I can't explain it - as I am probably among this category. I can see good in every race and still feel guilty if I support that a Non-Nigerian man is better than a Nigerian. Why?
Travel / Re: Move Back To Nigeria Club by ell77(f): 7:23pm On Oct 06, 2009
Sorry its been a long time since I posted here - thanks for all the contributions, quite interesting posts and links. I served in Nigeria from March 2008-March 2009. Batch A as a foreign student. I can tell you it was not easy, but it was well worth it. I have more of a leg to stand on whenever I visit Lagos. I lived as a Lagosian. I rode in danfo and Okada and BRT, everywhere i needed to go. I learned to drink pure water half-way and lay it on a table without it falling over, I learned how to haggle prices (from Plantain to Taxi ride). I learned how to argue with agbero without them killing me! I learned how to be independent in a state that is not tourist friendly. i learned how to encourage Nigerian schoolkids to be productive. I learned how corrupt and envious people could be. I learned how beautiful and wonderful they could be. I did not achieve so much in terms of work. But I achieved much in terms of personal mountains. I GREW - by FORCE!
Travel / Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered by ell77(f): 7:07pm On Oct 06, 2009
maileby:

@ell77, thanks for your contributions on this thread. Pls I have an offer to study in Australia(Feb., 2010). I got part of the fund I will use for this 2yrs masters program from my busines(I am self employed), the remaining part of the fund was given to me by my sister. The Australian Embassyy require evidence of source of fund e.g Tax Clearance Certificate, Income tax, pay slips or other evidence of regular income. e.t.c. My question is that the money in my account balance does not tally with the Tax Statement, can I include only my receipts, some documents of business transactions and my business registration certtificate? Pls advise me. Thanks.

Sorry maileby - the UK visa system and Australian visa system are quite different, the UK visa does not currently ask you to prove your source of funds before you can obtain the visa - they only require you to have the funds (or your parents).

I would not like to advise you wrongly, try creating your own thread - and hopeful someone else can be of more help! Sorry. Good luck - i am sure you will be fine! grin

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