Which country is that? Are you sure the chiken is not spoilt?

Anyway I usually wash chicken in a plastic bowl/basin with water and lemon or vinegar if I don't have lemon. I keep rubbing the chicken on outside same way you would wash any skin (like part of your own body).

The inside is trickier. Some people put their hand in and grab everything they can and yank out  all the contents. My mum taught me to use a spoon though to scrape the inside, rotating my hand and pulling from inside out in straight lines until all the contents fall out. This is because sometimes your hand cannot grab all the tiny bits and also if there are any broken bones etc they are likely to pierce your skin.

Keep rinsing the the bowl out and changing the water until the water is practically clear of any pink (may be cloudy because of the lemon or vinegar). If you really ae worried about the insides still you can make two vertical cuts on either side of the spine and break the back so that it opens up. That way you can see any areas where blood and organs and eggs etc remain. The only problem with this is it won't remain in its natural shape.

Hope that was what you needed! 

How do we combat fake pastors in Nigeria? Is there any way to have a regulatory system?

Watch this video for insight into why I am asking this question:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/video/2007/dec/09/video

@Poster - After eating at someone's house you should always offer to wash plates, that is simple good manners - I thought we were all raised this way?

Anyway, if you were taking the plate to the kitchen - were you going to wash it anyway or just leave it in the sink.

I can understand you might not like to be ordered to wash plates if she said it in a menacing manner too, but she said please so it is hard for me to picture how she could say it in a bad way. Perhaps you have previously ate in her hous and dropped the plates?? Maybe she just felt too tired like you indicated to go and wash the plates after they will be all dried up with food (start scrubbing). Or perhaps if you left the plates and sat with her on the couch it would not even have come into her mind to ask you this favour. Did you have to wash the pots and clean the kitchen too?
It really is not a big deal.

If I have a guest at my house I would not like that person to wash dishes after I cook for them whether it is my best friend or boyfriend - BUT I would like them to offer. In the same instance I believe my boyfriend shoudl do the same for me when cooking for me.

Marriage is different, as the home belongs to both of you. The upkeep of your tools and kitchen utensils etc will be the pride of both of you so both should share SOME responsibility. All you needed to say was "You don't have to ask me, I am a guest in your house who you fed and feel I am repaying you for cooking this lovely meal. I am doing this to say thank you, not for duty"

Wow Siena, I didn't know you were an artist too!

Well done, you should start your own TV show in nigeria! Just not sure if they will pay you enough??

See, I said it, we do have Nigerians we can be proud of afterall.

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Wow, I was not even receiving notification that there were new posts!

I can't believe the different directions this post has taken, people like to insult each other for know reason!

Anyway, for people who are not sure about my position, I really don't care enough about the head of household thing to fight for it in a relationship unnecessarily. But what I dislike is when a man uses this title to excuse any ill treatment he asserts against his wife.

I think this is a factor affecting many divorces nowadays and people need to realise it. Money and jobs can go at any time in a marriage and it is how the couple come together that keeps the marriage going. If the man takes out his frustrations and feeling of de-masculinity on his wife and decides not to work hard then fine.

@Dalby - you are speaking to me like I don't understand how hard it is to find a job. The issue is not him having a job but him not looking for one. When you have a family, you put them before yourself whether you are a man or woman. Okay, let the woman stop stressing herself too and decide to quit her job so she can sit at home with him. Then what?

Personally, I don't care for 'head of the household thing' if this was my husband and he was shouting, 'I am still head of the household', I will say 'ok, did I say you were not?'. How much do you want to bet, the lady in question did not even ask him if he believed he was still the head of the household?

I think the arguments probably arise from her making decisions concerning how money is spent. Even if both were working, I am sure you would find arguments over money (nothing too heavy). But the fact that, only she has VOLUNTEERED to work (he has outrightly REFUSED), yet he might be insisting he will decide how all money is spent in a way that she disagrees with, this is probably what caused this argument (efuah said something about decisions).

Anyway, i don't know enough about this couple to say that much about them but I can speak of similar cases. Truthfully, I know judgement belongs to God (as i think someone else pointed out), and it is not my marriage, my friend or relative, so I am leaving it at that. This thread is getting a bit vicious (child abuse  ) and I have important things to do i.e. looking for a job!  

Peace

Dalby:

Why should someone compair himself with GOD? GOD made you and made man the head of the woman under the marriage institution

Have u ever been in the situation where you look for a job?, especially in the Nigerian labour market which is proliferated? How come she did not see that he was a lazyman from the get go?

In the Nigerian polity, you will always have divergent views, and a leaders responsibility is to listen to all points raised and apply wisdom to say which direction the polity goes, and in this case the home. This is also applicable the world over. The interesting fact is that it is not all the decisions that the head or leader takes that might finally be right. Thus the mantle falls on him to accept responsibility even when things go wrong and it is seen that he has made the wrong choice.
He should learn from his mistakes and move on since no one including the woman is perfect

Also if I had the opportunity, I would have allowed OBJ complete his term.

Providing for the family is only one of the duties of the head of the family, so you should not on that ground alone decapitate him

@Dalby - you are the one who compared a man to God.

Also, the point is not that he does not have a job, the point is he does not want to stress himself to look for one, but allows the woman to stress herself doing everything and yet he has time to argue over being the head - is that as important as the welfare of your family?

If it was a mere case of a man losing his job and searching desperately to get one whilst the woman treats him as boy-boy then I will say she is wrong - 100%! Because it can happen to anyone especially in Nigeria, but that is not how I read this story. I personally also know of examples worse than this.

Ok, so what are the man's duties in the family? Remeber there is a difference between duty and right and how can he carry out these duties if he is lazy?

You did not answer my question about all the politicians as you should have, I understand politics, I was discussing the differnece between a title for names sake and a title as a role. What about Abacha and all the other 'presidents' and what about our impeached governors? I am talking about corruption!

If my husband loses his job tomorrow, I can work 3 jobs so long as i know he is trying and he has my back. But if I am meant to work three jobs whilst my husband treads on my back, what will happen whne my back breaks? How will he support the children I leave behind? How will he support himself!  

He even gave you a child so what is the issue, stay and get on with it. What if someone pours acid on your face, or part of your body is amputated. Nobody is invincible, he is still a man even without his Instruments. It might be weird at first but it is more than possible. Sex is not the beginning and the end and if it is for you, then what would you have done when he becomes impotent anyway, cheat?

Nokka:

Original poster, if a Wife does not contribute financially to the household, or sits at home and gossips while the maids do all the work, I guess we can call her useless too as she is not contributing anything.

I agree!

Dalby:

I pray to GOD to give me a car before the end of 2007, if that prayer is not answered at the end of the year, will GOD seize to be GOD

Is that an attempt to compare yourself to God? God created me, my husband did not!

Please post things that make sense, this is actually a serious issue, many women suffer because of men like this. I am thankful the majority of Nigerian men I have met are not like this but I pray that these men will seek to do the right thing always. How will Nigeria progress if people subject themselves to such acts of laziness and cruelty?

Ok Obasanjo was the ruler of our country. If you were given the chance to remove him from power a year early would you not have done it? As far as I am concerned some titles mean different thngs when given to different men and it is up to the man to distinguish what they mean - the title can merely be a title and nothing more (a simple sign of pride and vanity-which i care nothing about) or it can be an indication of the role that person plays (rights and responsibilities alike-which i do care about). We have had many leaders, but no true leader. You can always be the head of the family, but not all men are the true heads of their family (or even know what it entails). Since OBJ was president people should agree with eveything he did including stealing money, the same goes for our governers of state, why investigate them, leave them to do what they were doing after all, they are the heads and we must be submissive to them!

Some men have no intention of working and promise their wives heaven and earth, then they don't stick to them as soon as they marry, knowing the wife will not divorce because she does not believe in divorce and loves him. I have seen these things with my own eyes. Dalby, please don't treat your wife like that.

@gentlelegg - yes you are right about Adam's toil being a punishment for his sin, but Eve being ruled over was also a punishment for her sin. Before that she was not to be ruled over, she was a helper for Adam and the two roles are distinct. Read Genesis.

The first son example you explained does not fit the story. Unless you are saying bein the the HEAD is merely a title and not also a role. So which one is it? I thought it was both. Answer me, if this woman falls ill, dies or leaves him how will he eat? I don't make it a rule of fighting over titles, only how people are treated.

delighty:

Yes!!! I think a jobless man is still the head of his family because even the bible says that women are supposed to subject themselvesto their husbands. So even if the wife is employed and the man is idle, she is still expected to respect the husband even as she would do if he was employed.

Maybe you need to marry such a man, so you will understand the significance of what you just said. No one is talking about disrespecting the man. But what does the bible say about lazines?

@efuah - thanks, I just don't like it when people twist things to their own advantage and forget the parts they don't want to consider. Most likely, this story does not compare to any man on this post, I assume they are all atleast searching for work, but many are so quick to defend the man. If the woman dies tomorrow, that family is finished. What will he and his kids do? The next thing will be for him to sell his daughters to old babas to feed himself and sell his sons to be houseboys.

Instead of him to increase his wife's life he might just be diminishing it. Obviously I don't know this guy but i know guys who have done such. It is terrible.

I think, the point of the post for many, has been misconstrued. A lot of men like to get defensive when people start discussing whether a man is the head of the home or not. That is not the issue here

Also most females here are not saying that if a man does not have a job he is not head of the home (even though the title post may suggest so she explained herself in her post anyway)

The issue here is why would a man decide to marry a woman so he can sit at home and be lazy? If he was a house husband fine! But no he is allowing his wife to still do all the housework and everything.

DO you know there are some men who will get up in the morning whilst their wife is getting ready for work, order their wife to make them breakfast, set their clothes and make their bath. Then the wife will get the kids dressed, ready for school (wash, clothe, feed, pack their lunchboxes and and school books), sweep the whole house, drive them to school. Then go to work, maybe even work two jobs to compensate for the mans joblessness. Branch from work and buy fuel for gen, pick up the children from school, come home pour the fuel in the gen, pay Nepa and any other bill, fetch water, cook food for her husband who by now is bellowing that he does not want to eat the food in the fridge, start ironing the clothes for tomorrow, washing clothes and bedsheets by hand, making sure the childrens homework and school work is up to scratch, go and pick up any materials from shops that the school has said the child needs for a new project or get some provisions for boarding school. Then the man will cal her to find the remote and newspaper (that he is sitting under), she will answer the phone, she may need to go to market for more food and drink, she will set the night bath for the husband, he will ask her to give him her salary then divide it and give her the rest, when he asks her why the money is reduced (because she paid bills first and bought food) and she is only giving him her pay after she has spent some she may even receive insult and physcial abuse for not consulting him first as the head of the household. Yet if nepa cut the cable, he would scold her for not paying the bill.

IS THIS WHAT GOD INTENDED?

Please oh, if a man is man he should not want any human being to have to go through this in one day, every day, for the rest of her life, especiall ythier wife - this is torture. The least he can do is to help out in the home or to try to find work (even if it takes 20 years she will atleast feel he is not allwoing her to go through this out of wickedness) or better still both. My fear is that some men use this 'head of the family' brand as an excuse for unecessary cruelty. They may spend the day drinking and eating and watching TV, or even sitting at the local bar or smoking marijuana or bring their friends over to watch TV and she serves his friends too whilst he insults her about the food being too salty.

God did say Adam would rule over Eve, but he also said he would work all is life toiling for that bread/money and care for his family those were the terms. So if his toil is to help his wife, while SHE personally earns that money I personally can accept that (i.e. being a househusband) and would still class him head of the household but if he does not toil (is 100% lazy) and only adds to the womans burden, ask God if he deserves that title.

Some men, it seems, get married simply to have someone to rule over and do everything for them, another form of slavery. That was not what my God ordained.

Review what it says in the bible about laziness. The issue is not even his claim of head for me, he should get up and do something, anything helpful!  

hotfunmi:

why bleach your skin please? i noticed that this act is more prevalent among we yorubas. Are we not proud of our Africanness andymore. Even after Fela warned and made jest of those that do it, the trend continues to grow and men are fighting with women these days for bleaching cream.

Is it more prevalent in Yoruba people?

I didn't know that, are you sure you are not generalising as i have seen people do it from many different tribes it is a black issue full stop. If you ask a lot of Nigerian men now they will say they can marry any colour but would prefer light skinned girls. It is not the same with all Nigerian guys though and i don't know if it is a majority or minority to be honest, it is kinda hard to tell. Overseas I would say it is majority but in Nigeria I would say it is not. There are so many black (as in black as the night beautiful) peeps in Naija i don't know why people will worry about skin colour. Having said that if their skin has discolouration then that may be why, and it is not really a race thing therefore.

It depends on if you need to do a Church wedding and traditional also, apparently you can do all of this for N370,000. With 700 guests, look at this attachment.

Figurehead? yes I guess so. Real head? NO!

If the man lost his job through no fault of his own and was trying to get back or was disabled or something the fine, circumstances caused it and i can accept him still calling himself the head.

But if it is ordinary laziness then no way! Do you mean I should work, come home, cook, clean, supervise the children, answer you every beck and call whilst you have not moved from you position for two days and you have the audacity to call yourself the HEAD! Head of what exactly.

The head of the family has rights and responsibilities
RESPONSIBILITIES:
-They are the moral compass (how morally correct is it to treat your wife badly and allow her to stress herself without caring to help - selfishness),
-They are providers (he is not providing cash, food, shelter, clean water, education)
-They are role models (sure if you want you child to grow up lazy, if you ask your sons to study they will soon say "why, did daddy need to study for the job he is doing?"
-They are protectors (how can he protect his wife when he is the main contributor to her ill health - giving her hypertension)
-They care about their wife's emotional and physical welfar (if he cared so much he would atleast atempt to find work)

RIGHTS:
-Decision makers
-you know the rest

If the woman is doing all this, then as far as I am concerned she is the real head of the family and deserves to make decisions, afterall, the children need to know her example is th best example of what a parent and spouse should do and not his.

If people want to fight for this 'head of the family' status they must know there are no rights in life without responsibilities unless the person is a thief!

rufaai:


He he he, even though I am trying to keep a young girl for me. She's in JSS2! - A beautiful young girl that could fit me when I am more ready to be a Married man, So I better think off now and plan life.

How old is this child, since you are 18? You better remove your eye from that area, just because someone is young does not mean they can't hurt you either (in case that was what you were thinking as a new defence startegy).

Anyway, I am not sure being friends with this girl is advisable either, but being civil is probably necessary if you are likely to bump into her. She used you, cheated on you and then manipulated you into believing you had to beg her to speak to her, you even went as far as to apologise to her. She does not sound good for you in any way shape or form. Just concentrat on your studies, when you finish and are successful you will meet so many girls you will start choosing those who have good characters. Character is more important than whatever is drawing you back to this girl who cheated on you. Good luck though, because you are a guy it does not make you any less vulnerable to emotional pain, afterall, we are all human.

oziomatv:

body dey for cloth. i don tey since no body dey hear from you.

@oziomatv - lol. I have been around, maybe not so much on the debate issues though. I will be doing nysc this march (hopefully)!

romeo:

It was in Enugu my sister, it took the might of the rich and influential people of the town to realise, though some people opposed it but they couldn't do a thing about it

i am not going to say my hometown here

@romeo- ok, well maybe you can tell this guys bro so they can migrate there! I would loved to have known where in Enugu, but I respect your ned for privacy. If only evey city can have rich influential people do such. If I was rich I think I would say, I can develop this land, hospital, school, water etc but on condition you abolish this osu caste thing MENTALLY!

Nnamdi Aziwe abolished this thing in the east ages ago so it is actually illegal but unfotunately people pay no attention thats why the fact your town decided to formally celebrate it being abolished MENTALLY alos was so important. Those leaders (who did this in ur town) should write a book or something to show others how to do it. I feel bad for those classed as Osu.

romeo:

it was abolished in my home town about 15 years ago with a get together dance and merry making to mark it

@Romeo - that's quite interesting, really? Which hometown was that, do you know how they came about doing it because it seems other towns have failed when the government has tried to abolish it, I agree with you it should be abolished. Also you are right the caste system is everywhere, and without merit also.

oziomatv:

@ ell77
long time no see.

lol. @ oziomatv - i have been around my brother. How u dey?

Wow, can't believe things like this still exist it is purely discrimination. If I were you I would still marry the so-called Osu, afterall you are Christian and don't believe in all the condemnation and death stuff.

If you need to appease your family though, apparently there is a reversal ritual to make the person no longer Osu. I don't know what it is unfortunately and even tried search google, you may need to buy a JSTO book to find out more.

Quote from "http://www.kwenu.com/publications/maduabum/osu_system.htm"

The good news is that there is indeed a remedy for this involuntary inclusion into the caste. Even those who voluntarily joined the caste can still have the status ritual reversed. For those who may not know, the Osu initiation can be reversed; it is a reversible reality in Agu-Ukwu Nri, the religious hometown of Ndiigbo. All you need to do is to perform the required rites and rituals for it to be reversed. By so doing you would have been fully and completely separated from any tie that had bonded you with the god at initiation. The rate of ritual killings can be reduced in our society if those who have been affected are cleansed and fully integrated into the society.

Good luck, but remember you can always migrate to an area that tolerates you (within Nigeria or abroad) and this discrimination has to stop somewhere so you can be one of those people to break out of this bondage. Someday I am sure this will be a thing of history, it just may not be in you lifetime, but you won't be the first person to marry an Osu for love. In fact, there is no need for this label, you are marrying your love. If you leave this girl for someone else, you may marry a wicked person, good people are hard to find, so forget labels put on her what do you see in her?

calyx:

both of them are wrong. why not try, in the next two days,

"In the next two days", implies sometime tomorrow or the day after tomorrow - so this may also be wrong.

I think you meant to say "in two days time".

"The day after tomorrow" is not actually wrong it may just sound long winded, I suppose.

"Next tomorrow" is pidgin like the original poster said. If a foreigner speaks with you they will pick this up as being unusual.

@strahan - the deadline for foreign graduates (Nigerian origin) to register is the 28th of February, you have to go to Abuja to do it with the required documents.

http://www.nysc.gov.ng/index.php

I don't think you have to ditch your language either (my Grandpa spoke better than Queen Elizabeth but was fluent in several Nigeian languages also), but do concentrate on English. I know someone said studies are more important but trust me, some people get into jobs by talking their way in, and some people with 1st class degrees are rejected based on their inability to communicate. If you are the best at what you do, how will someone know if they can't understand you? Especially these multinational companies, grades are just a prescreening tool, they are looking for a total package. I don't think English pronunciation should be as important as it is (although we do need a common language), but the fact is it is important and anyone who advises this guy that English is not important is not being fair, in the real world this could really be a barrier in him realising his dreams.

Anyway poster, I hope you have listened to the good advice here. It is true noones English is perfect, but if you feel the need to improve it then try your best and leave the rest to your other attributes. Okay?

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-104944.0.html


Check individual university websites from this (also I think environmental engineering is not always combined with civil engineering so I hope you are sure of which type you prefer this is environmental - the only two from london are Imperial and UCL):

http://www.prospects.ac.uk/cms/ShowPage/Home_page/Find_courses_and_research/p!eacge

FOR THE UK:

May differ between different unis. Here is an example for LSE:
Each programme in the prospectus lists the level of English required for admission – either Standard or Higher.

Standard

• TOEFL (Test of English as a Foreign Language) with a minimum score of 603 in the paper test, 250 in the computer-based test or 100 in the internet based test. For full information on TOEFL and testing centres worldwide, please see www.ets.org/toefl
• IELTS (International English Language Testing System) with a minimum score of 6.5. For full details about the British Council's English tests, please see www.ielts.org
• LSE Language Test with a minimum score of 65 (not accepted by Accounting and Finance)

Higher

• TOEFL (Test of English as a Foreign Language) with a minimum score of 627 in the paper test, 263 in the computer based test or 107 in the internet based test
• IELTS (International English Language Testing System) with a minimum score of 7.0
• LSE Language Test with a minimum score of 70 (not accepted by Economic History and Law)

Other test scores may be acceptable if you have already obtained them. You should supply evidence of your English test with your application and if you are made an offer we will indicate whether we will accept your score or if we require one of the tests above. You may be required to achieve a higher score at the discretion of the selectors. If you have not yet taken any English test, we recommend that you take the IELTS, TOEFL or LSE test.

Here is the british council website on IELTS:

http://www.britishcouncil.org/nigeria-learning-exams-in-nigeria-ielts.htm

But I am assuming TOEFL is a better test to take. Whether you need a test or not will depend on the uni I guess as Nigeria is an ENglish Speaking Country anyway. So choose the course you want first, then look at unis that offer this course, then look at admission criteria.

Goodluck. You can call british council for info too i guess, also there will be a fair in february organised by british council in Nigeria you can ask the universities from uk there:

http://www.britishcouncil.org/nigeria-learning-study-in-the-uk-education-advice.htm

Here is an article from the UK guardian about fees charged it has a table of all fees for international students. However this is the average and I still encourage you to look at the individual website even of those that may be high, the course you are interested in may not be so high!

http://education.guardian.co.uk/students/table/0,,2105900,00.html

The lowest appears to be city university. But check the detailed tables , articles and uni websites as they often make tables that are misleading:

http://education.guardian.co.uk/students/internationalstudents/page/0,,2105822,00.html

Try this search engine I have done an example for management and business studies in London here:

http://www.prospects.ac.uk/cms/ShowPage/Home_page/Find_courses_and_research/p!eacge

But here is the beginning of the advanced search engine for the degree type and area you want:

http://www.prospects.ac.uk/cms/ShowPage/Home_page/Find_courses_and_research/p!eacge?mode=AdvSearch

Opt for a fulltime degree it will be hard to get a visa otherwise. For a masters dgree fees can actually be as high as £20,000 maybe more that figure was for Imperial's Finance MSc (N5 million naira), so depends on the course and university. London is the most expensive city in Europe, but is also the most diverse so it is more hospitable to blacks than most other European cities.

Cost for a student including student fees for one year may be as high as £38,500 depending on the course (N9.625 million naira)!

BUT FINALLY, THIS PAGE SHOULD TELL YOU ALL YOU NEED ABOUT FUNDING:
http://www.prospects.ac.uk/cms/ShowPage/Home_page/International_students/Step_by_step_guide/How_much_does_it_cost_/p!eFjgceL

HERE IS ABOUT INTERNATIONAL STUDENTS IN GENRAL:
http://www.prospects.ac.uk/cms/ShowPage/Home_page/International_students/p!elmbb

Good luck let me know how it goes, I am doing the opposite transition I am going to Nigeria to do NYSC!

This is really useful information guys, does anyone know how to approach an organisation to take you on as a corper before you register? Rather than after camp?

Also are you saying you could for instance go to camp in abuja and then get posted to Lagos for you PPA?