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marvelmike:
Count mi in , t_enaohwo@yahoo.com

davidylan:
That's exactly what the sports section here is like. All of you talking poo!

tpiah:
the ongoing cholera epidemic in nigeria wasnt discussed on nairaland either.


the cnn report has been done to death in the past, with various curses rained on the religious leaders involved.

this is just a rehashing, i should think.

vedaxcool:
Where did I indicate that I do not believe that you are not a christian what you are saying? beats me, as you first post on the topic showed you brought religion into the discussion only to turn around and say I brought religion in response to your post now that is so low.

Adolf Hitler is likely to have had Jewish and African roots, DNA tests have shown.

Saliva samples taken from 39 relatives of the Nazi leader show he may have had biological links to the “subhuman” races that he tried to exterminate during the Holocaust.

Jean-Paul Mulders, a Belgian journalist, and Marc Vermeeren, a historian, tracked down the Fuhrer’s relatives, including an Austrian farmer who was his cousin, earlier this year.

A chromosome called Haplogroup E1b1b1 which showed up in their samples is rare in Western Europe and is most commonly found in the Berbers of Morocco, Algeria and Tunisia, as well as among Ashkenazi and Sephardic Jews.

"One can from this postulate that Hitler was related to people whom he despised," Mr Mulders wrote in the Belgian magazine, Knack.

Haplogroup E1b1b1, which accounts for approximately 18 to 20 per cent of Ashkenazi and 8.6 per cent to 30 per cent of Sephardic Y-chromosomes, appears to be one of the major founding lineages of the Jewish population.

Knack, which published the findings, says the DNA was tested under stringent laboratory conditions.

"This is a surprising result," said Ronny Decorte, a genetic specialist at the Catholic University of Leuven.

"The affair is fascinating if one compares it with the conception of the world of the Nazis, in which race and blood was central.

“Hitler's concern over his descent was not unjustified. He was apparently not "pure" or ‘Ayran’.”

It is not the first time that historians have suggested Hitler had Jewish ancestry.

His father, Alois, is thought to have been the illegitimate offspring of a maid called Maria Schickelgruber and a 19-year-old Jewish man called Frankenberger.

GudFolk:
In many countries polygamy is the law, yet when such families apply for visas they face discrimination by the USA who refused to accept that a man can have 10 wives and 70 children.

Do you know why Americans hate polygamy? Because they think it will cripple the tax system, since each child must get protection and tax deductions, etc.

Speaking of laws, why is the West desperate to change laws in Africa? if that is the case, then the same African religious immigrants can choose to begin changing laws in the USA, which is already happening in Britain and other communities full of immigrant groups who do NOT like the laws of the Western countries now their new homes.

GudFolk:
Evidence of bigotry hiding behind science to cover up discrimination against incest. 1st generation incest-born babies are not condemned to suffer defects. Do not exaggerate the problems of incest please!

Consider this, a homosexual 65 years old priest chooses intimacy with a 12 year old boy and suddenly we can use pedophelia as an excuse to ban homosexuals. Therefore, just because a minority of incest cases lead to birth defects does not mean all 100% will. Therefore incestuous marriage is a right as much as you claim homosexual marriage to be a right.

Besides, the gene pool is strong enough to survive the 1st generation of incest. Nothing says the second generation must practice incest,[/b] just like you say that bi-sexual parents can give birth to heterosexual children. Note  that true homosexuals cannot give birth unless they become bisexual for just a day.

GudFolk:
I do NOT support this, but the law of the land in Uganda wants the death penalty for homosexuality. I am sure they will have same for incest.

Yet, the hypocritical Americans with their elitist bigotry, racism and Fascist attitudes are so angry with Uganda, while ElRazur tells us that laws are to be obeyed.

But if we must change laws we do not like, then surely couples engaged in loving incestuous relationships, need the same rights for marriage and protection like all other abnormalities in Western nations. Yet those same hypocritical nations condemn polygamy and other sexual variations. At least Islam condemns all deviations while being truthful to the fact that thousands of different 14 year old girls in America and the West get pregnant every day, so why not marry them if they find good husbands too.

So hypocrisy is when we hear of Homosexuals demanding the right to marry but the same Homosexuals defend the right to discriminate and be totally intolerant of incestuous marriages despite the existence of Birth Control methods.

Uyi Iredia:
"law is the law" - by ElRazur

guy >>> i get problem with that statement >>> it sounds religious  

honeric01:
Nope, i want to know why you don't have a problem with Bestiality, yet with incest

Since homosexuals don't give birth, those who practice incest can decide not to pro-create too, same goes with those who practice bestiality, they can all go out to adopt just like what homosexuals do or do you have a different approach to this?

I do not have to be in any camp before letting out what i feel about some certain issues humans think they have answers to, thereby ignoring the no 1 reason for creation in the 1st place, so please any questions i ask, kindly try providing an answer to them since you're in the "field".

The incest practitioners can also decide not to make babies, thereby going out to adopt too or what do you think?

And who told you now is better than then? we have it in history that those in that era lived longer than us in this era, if they had weaker genes, why then did they live longer than we you claim have "stronger" and better gene or what's the essence of gene if the no 1 importance of human existence is defeated which is SURVIVAL?

Ok, when did did we come from? just give me an accurate answer and stop trying to drag my questions into mud, did we come from same source or came from different source?

if we came from same source, then what's wrong with these offspring from same source having sex?

pingu2k5:
@Elrazur: what is logic? What is illogical? It seems it is only what you agree with that is logical. Paedophilia, incest, homosexuality are all un-natural and disgusting and should make you sick. There is nothing like logic; there is only the laws of the creator of everything.

jayrome:
So to MANNY, ELRAZUR n your crew of nitwits, i wish your fathers had bn gay. Quit trying to corrupt d younger generation with d rationality of ds OUTRAGE. Arrrgh!!! As if we dnt av enuff problems in d world already.

GudFolk:
Why is America a land of hypocrisy? We have thousands of cases of teenage pregnancies with girls being impregnated by teenage boys. However, if a virile man of 25 years impregnates a sexually active 16 year old who already gave birth at the age of 14yrs, then the American justice system drags the 25 year old man to court for child molestation and statutory r-ape. Please!

Polygamous marriage is illegal in most states in the USA even though it is between consenting adults.

And yet, the USA wants to force homosexual marriage on the world when they cannot even be honest with their own laws. Therefore, I will equate homosexual marriage with incestuous marriage as minority abominations that should not plague the majority of normal society. But neither do I advocate violence against such abnormals. Just prayers!

pingu2k5:
Sorry o, ElRazur, who told you a child is too young to know what is good for him/her sexually? Who says there has to be an age you'll reach to be sexually active?

GudFolk:
ElRazur,  you truly suffer emotionally challenges of "anger management" ?

Firstly, if you are able to comprehend what you read, I already said that not every homosexual act is equivalent to pedophilia. Only a small percentage are equivalent, and that is why homosexuals have distanced themselves from craddle-robbers in their arguments.

However, by the same light INCEST is NOT and never has been equated to 100% pregnancy if you use birth control, which is exactly what married heterosexuals do and even the unmarried promiscuous ones who sleep around.

Therefore, INCEST cannot destroy the gene pool any more than homosexuals destroy the gene pool because one isolated act does not bring catastrophe on humanity's gene pool. Speaking of birth defects many chemicals in the environment have caused defects even amongst heterosexual couples giving birth.

So since you REFUSE to give equality to INCESTUOUS MARRIAGE, then why should the majority of society follow your whims and only give equality to homosexual marriage while ignoring other forms of marriage like INCESTUOUS MARRIAGES or even Polygamy which is a crime in the USA (but not Africa, though Africans avoid Polyandry, which is selfish).

honeric01:
Does it have to be only horse? what about those who sleep with normal animal without huge organs like that of an horse? if you don't have a problem with that, then you should also fight for their right as a human being because they believe they were born to love animals.

Some women sleep with horses and are not dead so using that man as an example is kinda wrong because the structure of a man's organ is very different from that of a woman.

And as for incest, if you don't have a problem with homosexuals and bestiality, then you shouldn't have a problem with incest too because they are also not hurting anyone.

What's bad about looking alike? we have alot of twins that look alike and most Asians look alike, even some Europeans look alike.

I would like to know how every race came to be (in your own words), were they all created differently or they came from ONE source?

Did our ancestors fall from the sky or came out of a particular place? and this place they came out from, how did that place come to being? (asking this to see if in your own word is the same place all humanity came from).

GudFolk:
ElRazur, you must suffer serious comprehension challenges?

I already said INCEST can cause pregnancy if you avoid birth control methods. But since you are well aware that even married heterosexuals use birth control, then you are also well aware that in civilized society, you will have a majority of those understanding the problems of incestuous pregnancy ensuring they use birth control too.

If you have a minority of cases of pregnancy, it will not bring the END of all humanity. Accidents amongst a minority of families have not eradicated human civilization.

Equating incest with pregnancy is as ignorant of ElRazur as many others equate homosexuality with pedophilia.
Incest can occur without pregnancy just like homosexuality can occur with pedophilia. In face homosexuals have worked hard to distance homosexuality form pedophilia so you can work as equally hard to enforce "safe-incest" using birth control.

So effectively what you are saying is that Homosexuality is the same as Paedophilia? Are you kidding me?   See what I mean by you being daft? Paedohillia is the attraction to sexually immature person, usually by a sexually matured person or adult. That is they have a sexual attraction to prepubescent child.  On the other hand, homosexuality is same sex attraction to people who are usually adult and consented to it.  

In the case of paedophilia, a child is too young to know what is good for them sexually and as a result get exploited by someone who is an adult (paedophile).

Please using your extensive knowledge, explain to me as to how this two type of sexual orientation are the same? If you ignore this, then you are really sstttupid than I think you are am afraid.

If you cannot stop discrimination against INCEST, then the vast majority who discriminate against homosexuals are better than you since they are not hypocrites like you. You support one minority only to oppress another. At least the majority of normal people believe in democracy by the numbers where the majority rules and majority are heterosexual marriages for procreation, and not incestuous marriages neither homosexuals ones (and not even those marriages barren of offspring which are also common by the way).

honeric01:
@ElRazur

How about those who practice bestiality?

GudFolk:
Unlike you, society discriminates wisely when following God's divine laws. But if you choose to bring equality then the hypocrisy against a tiny minority that need incestuous marriage for their happiness while not hurting society as a whole?

alamsdee:
demons from the pit of hell have invaded nairaland, i guess anyone in his right senses should avoid this site from now on, they have been sent by satan to pollute the minds of nigerians that visit this site, from today i revoke my membership of this evil and demonic website, I pray that everyone with the fear of God will have their spiritual eyes opened to see clearly the manipulation of satan as he trys to use this website to confuse people and lead them to eternal damnation.

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