dammyllare: His VC said he graduated in 2000 because that's the date on his certificate The VC also said he graduated during the 1998/1999 calendar year If you don't understand the calendar year, feel free to ask me and I will explain to you Dino set is 1999set, his results was approved in january 2000 That's the reason why his cert is reading 2000 he might graduate in 2000 and also serve in 2000 My graduation set is 2013 but my certificate is reading 2014 because strike affected us and we didn't finish until 2014 but in the school brochure our names was on the 2013set
From information available he served in 1999.
Are you saying that he went to serve before his results were approved?
hardballripplez: I do not believe all what is said in the book of judas. I am being objective here. For years you accused judas of being a betrayal, so what is wrong if I decide to hear from the book of judas what actually transpired. ? Reason. If you go to a court of law, the judge would listen to both parties. We could have a discussion about this. And don't forget that you can't assume the bible is complete . No it's not. There are hundreds of bible today with new and extra books. The Catholic bible has always had couple of more books though.
I can assure you that Judas did not write any book before he hung himself, neither did he commission anybody to write a book on his behalf.
The book of Judas is another book written by people who CLAIM to be Gnostics.
There are other books like that which try to cast aspersions on the Salvific work of Jesus and the nature of his being.
You'll find that these books are mischievous.
For example, the book or "gospel " of Mary Magdalen claims that Jesus married her and they had children and he did not die but lived to a grand age and blah blah blah...
Anybody can wake up and begin to write whatever comes into their heads so long as you have a very active imagination.
See How people rush to news that has scandal even on this form but find it difficult to contribute to any meaningful intellectual discuss.
It's because humans love lurid tales. That one that titillates our senses.
There's no court of law here.and nobody Really can speak on behalf of Judas.
If Judas hadn't betrayed Jesus, someone else would have. The theological niceties of predestination is not what I would want to get into here.
I wouldn't want to derail this already derailed thread. Maybe one day you can open a thread and put it all out in the open, cc me, and we can have a robust discussion or debate If you like.
hardballripplez: Will you be able to make it to this debate. If no, how canwe stay in touch so I could invite you to many other debates. I am available if you'll prefer an objective discussion at your church. IT will be with you and any of your pastors . Thanks
You probably didn't notice my signature. Despite that though, I'm Catholic. I'm not sure If I can join you in any debate for now due to location, but, you can always cc me on this forum or email me on elsonmorali007@yahoo.com.
Oh by the way, I don't need my "pastors" to make my arguments for me.
Seems you're a Moslem. If you are, then I understand why you're so eager to believe the book of Judas.
petra1: I did a little search and discovered that the pictures on this thread were not taken to post online . It's from one of the musical videos of the church someone screen shot that part and posted . You guys are just so gullible of every negative report.
Who's talking about pictures?
I went on YouTube and saw the videos with my korokoro eyes.
Or is it possible to Photoshop video again, when no be chidinma okeke.
Eguaikide: Sahara reporters and Yele is afraid of going to jail for spreading fake news! A VC has just spoken and confirmed Dino Melaye as a graduate of ABU ZARIA, you still have the audacity and shamelessness to quote an exam officer- are you guys not so low Yele since your generation can never come up with the option of fine in the case instituted against you, you will eventually rot in jail! Very idiotic online news media! Na buhari be that tell him to bring ordinary waec certificate him no gree since, you're now throwing banter at a university graduate! Yele you get sense so?
Ask yourself some salient questions like, why has it taken a whole Senate committee to call for an hearing before the V.C could come out to save the image of the school he governs?
hardballripplez: Lol. This is so funny. They needed an insider to get him. And if I may ask , how did this insider get him? The guy only kissed him so they'll know that it was Jesus. He didn't tie him down so they'll catch him. He only signified to them coz with all his popularity and with the face to face argument they had with him according to the bible, they still didn't know him.
If you read the gospel of judas you will understand better that what u are made to believe is not the real account . If I may ask you. Who is judas to You? A godly or evil man? This was the guy who made th3 crucifixion possible. If not for him Jesus wouldn't have died for your sins, or don't you think so? Jesus emphatically stated that he didnt want to die coz he was scared. Although we have brave men these days and many im the days of yore who wouldn't mind dying for their people. Some of them even gave up their lives for their people . Jesus wasn't that kind if person . He loved his life . So tell me who judas is to you. And can you answer my questions about why you guys only believe in some part of the bible and not in others? . And also you didn't answer my question about the tower.
I'm sorry but arguing with you will be a complete waste of my time.
You pick a book over the Bible because it sounds "delicious" to your ears.
You accept everything written in the book of Judas but find it difficult to accept the books of the Bible.
We can go on and on, but I see that your mind is already fixated. You are in no frame of mind for objective discussion.
Good luck on your journey down the rabbit hole. I guess we all have to make that trip at last once in our life time.
bedspread: I PRAY GOD DOES NOT ALLOW YOU TO BE HELD UP IN ONE DISEASE OR ACCIDENT THAT ONLY HIM WILL CURE.... SIMPLY TAKE A VISIT TO THE LORDS CHOSEN AND CLEAR YOUR DOUBTS
Yeah. So that that juju that is tying you guys down there like "eran iya oshogbo" will now come and tie me down abi? God forbid.
Next time your church wants to publicize a miracle like this, let them follow up with genuine medical records proving that indeed something supernatural occurred.
hardballripplez: . This doesn't answer my question. My point was that Jesus was a well known figure. He was widely known to the people and the Pharisee. Just take the example of the woman from Samaria who cried after him . The poor knew him as well as the teachers in the synagogue. He doesn't need to be identified by any of his disciples. Ofcourse they knew where he was if they wanted to get him , and there are bible verses to back this up if you'll be interested . I am not asking if he was dark skinned or not. Was he known to the people ? Yes or no? I am specifically taking about the Israelites of then , not the people of now
You still didn't tell me if you believed the tower story or not
Sorry, but your argument isn't gonna fly.
This wasn't the first time Jesus was being sought after.
There was a time they wanted to seize him and throw him off a cliff, he escaped.
There was also a time they wanted to seize him and make him king forcefully, he escaped still. I'm sure there might be other incidences like that which weren't recorded in the Bible.
So did they need an insider to get him, so he won't escape again? it sounds plausible. There's a tradition that says that Judas betrayed him because he thought his master could not be captured anyway, (after all he's escaped before) and he'll have made his money.
This might explain his remorse later and his attempt to return the money.
Besides, he was arrested in the dark and to his credit, there was no difference in the way he carried himself with the way his disciples carried themselves. He was a man, and dressed like his disciples.
There was no master/servant relationship. In fact remember that earlier that same evening after the supper, he'd washed his disciples' feet, to teach them humility and that to be master you had to be a servant.
So Yes,they could have mistaken him for any of his disciples and they needed Judas to point him out.
petra1: He looks happy to me. If you dint believe he's Inocent kindly leave the matter to the court to decide .
You'll believe anything, after all, he's the god you worship.
I'm sure If he tells you to kill someone you won't hesitate.
I saw the video of him and the Otobo girl's mom where she came to apologize on behalf of her daughter and I wondered at the arrogance of the person some people are calling "man of god ".
It was soo clear, clearer than day that the woman only wanted peace for her family and that the matter should end.
Saao: e pain u say d guy finally graduated. why are u guys trying so hard to destroy him? what has he done to u? was it becuz he's d most vibrant guy in senate? here we have president we are not sure if he can boost of ssce certificate but u guys can still die for him. Dino pass all of na join, d guy na fighter i tell u
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I'm not surprised at your utterances. Birds of the same plumage...
I'll bet even you can't show us your primary school leaving certificate.
Jangbajantis: What you see here is true love in action. And they're telling you to try harder or change your strategy. No wife can be stupid enough to cover her husband's infidelity because of money? She knows El-rufai and Fulani herdsmen sympathizers are behind the ridiculous sex scandals. You guys should give it up on the apostle already and move on to more important things. He has won the battle without a word.
True love kor, true lover ni.
Show me last year's birthday pics and video where his wife was singing for him and I'll believe.