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bekay911:
Where d hell is MMM n Sima

bekay, I think it's high time we started seeking for sima . . .call 911.

Araboy:
To be continued about Hausa Kanuri and Shuwa Arab presence in Nigeria and Sudan

Merci beaucoup Monsieur. I patiently wait for the subsequent parts

Long One:
‘cos that’s a sign that can calm this savage beast, lol.

Lol

On a more serious note, it’s also a fiery sign, thus suited to match/withstand my heat.

I do wonder why some people such as yourself attach much significance to these horoscopes . . .have they ever proved true?
and even so . . .wouldn't there just be 12 personalities shared amongst 7 billion people?

ok. . . erm what's your star sign? Does it match your being or do you just tailor your being to your star sign just to qualify?

@manmustwac

@emofine
What is the meaning of smh?

For some weird reason the topic you asked me this question got locked. Anyway to answer your question "smh" is just an abbreviation for [b]s[/b]haking.[b]m[/b]y.[b]h[/b]ead. It's just to verbalize ones action at that current moment.

Interesting . . .my mind loosely hovers on Isis Papers.

A phallicist is a person who worships the phallus and you can also describe this as a person who possesses a very strong s:e:x drive.

A phallus is an image of the male reproductive organ that was carried in a procession  in ancient festivals of Dionysus or Bacchus. It symbolized the generative power in nature of the male reproductive organ.

It could also be defined as an erect reproductive male organ or an object that is shaped in the form of a reproductive male organ.

So those who also worship the symbol of a phallus can also be called a "phallicist"?

sauer:
emofine ---girl I kissed in the subway

er. . .nah . . .I wanna be the sexy villain

[quote author=izi-n-bizi link=topic=863603.msg10139062#msg10139062 date=1328590346]Religion remains a means of introducing Spirituality, Is it not base to throw the banana away and hold unto the peelings? Or do we say the peelings are of no importance? No we dont but the banana holds the nutrient and not the peelings. 

Thank you Horus for that sound analogy[/quote]Essentially I guess you're saying that religion has a period where it serves it's purpose and after a while it's usefulness expires otherwise it would only serve to inhibit an individuals spirituality?

By the way, what is wrong if some individuals want to pander to other like-minded individuals forming a collective? What is the bother if some persons seek religion as a platform for their own spirituality?

Who designed the religion? whatever is designed by one cannot be practised by another as Spirituality. Spirituality is concieved, developed, designed and practised individually. The purpose of Religion approaches expiration and its end is near.

hmm interesting. Many a religious folks have a mantra of putting their spirit before the flesh (of course this is by no means exclusive to a person who is religious). Thus some learn to cultivate the spirit by diminishing worldly desires. If such people (maybe not all religious people) continue to water their spirit in this way - does that not carve out a basis or even a span of a spirit life. . . hence spirituality?

Whilst I agree that spirituality is individual, what separates the collective (the religious contingent) is the test each of them will have to go through by themselves. I suppose you can liken it to a study group. A group of students (perhaps in the same field may study together as a collective, learning from each other in the process) although they all sit the exam individually. Now even though they studied as a group it does not bar the fact that each student will have to pass through an examination individually. . . now couldn't the same be accorded for the religious populace?

Well I'm truly saddened when I hear news such as this.

Generations ago, European colonists and Christian missionaries looted Africa's ancient treasures. Now, Pentecostal Christian evangelists — most of them Africans — are helping wipe out remaining traces of how Africans once worked, played and prayed.

It's almost like a jihad crusade against the ancestral gods.

The old gods are being linked to the devil, and preachers are urging not only their rejection, but their destruction.

Disgusting. Smh.

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These idols bore testament to the world and proved to the Europeans that Africans had fine skills such as artistry and a sophisticated civilization that could be deemed fit enough to be purposely mistaken with European Ancient society (even though the "mistake" was obviously political and to propel propaganda).

What's more sad, is that whilst "civilized" and "Christian" Africans see fit to burn these Devil remains their converters see the treasure in them and would rather preserve them in their galleries milking Africans who come by to see their own ancestors work in the process. The more they ["repented" Africans] burn these idols the more the Europeans and co have a valid reason in looting those endangered treasures. Unbelievable.

Jenwitemi:
Spirituality is not about having faith or blind belief about some entity referred to as "GOD", but mainly about having knowledge, the innermost knowedge of oneself at the deepest level. Another important difference is that it is very possible to politicize religiosity(which is needed for religion to remain relevant for a meaningful length of time), but spirituality can never be politicized.

[quote author=izi-n-bizi link=topic=863603.msg10133657#msg10133657 date=1328532090]@Jenwitemi,
There is nothing like having faith in Spirituality, this idea reduces Faith to mere mental works and I did not state that Spirituality is about having faith. I clearly stated that Spirituality is a Faith. If you understand the meaning of Faith you will know that Faith is a personal belief, knowledge, philosophy, conviction on which the soul thrives - I quote your definition of Spirituality "having knowledge, innermost knowledge of oneself (sic) at the deepest level" I suppose you can now relate both. Faith sustains the soul and without it, the soul is unstable, lacking and distressed. Soul perpetually longs for faith. Faith is completely individualistic and cannot be shared as practised in Religion and your level of Faith is directly proportional to your Spirituality. A carnal soul lacks faith and lives in the grip and bondage of fear. You cannot have faith outside Spirituality, Faith is the Consequence of Spirituality and not Religion.

You are right about politicizing religion, truly Spirituality can not be politcized and Spirituality does not discuss the Religious concept of "GOD".[/quote]Intriguing.

You cannot have faith outside Spirituality, Faith is the Consequence of Spirituality and not Religion.

Reminds me of a question I asked a while ago on Nairaland.

Does one need religion in order to exercise faith in God?
Does religion carve out faith?

Spirituality is. . .mainly about having knowledge, the innermost knowedge of oneself at the deepest level.

Reminds me of a quote: - “Knowing others is intelligence; knowing yourself is true wisdom. Mastering others is strength; mastering yourself is true power.”

The islamists "hate" spirituality.

Really?

phxc:
Gen 3 vs 22 - 24 ----  22And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:

crossman9:
for the record it was for both reasons one the sin state the second he did not want man to life forever in a sin state so cast him out fact how can you get such simple thing wrong?

It's kinda strange how these two people could have lived in a sinless state forever yet have no knowledge of good and evil.
On the other hand the knowledge they acquired via sin brought upon the consequence of having only but a temporary life.
If they had eaten from the tree of life . . .I wonder what would have happened. The usual rule is that good always triumph over evil, I wonder if evil would have triumphed then? (just thinking out loud)

It's pretty strange. Were Adam and Eve supposed to remain innocent? In their child-like innocence would they have even procreated?

Long One:
Leo anyday.

Hhmm. . .if I may ask, why?

OmoPastor:
celebration of valentine's day is not part of christianity. its the devil's way of propagating immorality within the young. instead, valentine's day should be an aggressive soul winning day for all christians by organising programs that will bring them into church rather than joining them in immorality.

Interesting. Is that not how Christmas started? Wasn't the date 25 Dec originally a Pagan festival until the original event was usurped as a means of introducing Christ to the Pagans? Please correct me if I'm wrong.

sauer:

Next:

The tired Legend of sauer

mashnino:
Enjoy the story and my real name is actually Umar Mash.

Good and bad comments are invited

Sorry mate but your story is not that engaging. It was pretty cringe-worthy unfortunately but it did make me laugh (at the story mainly)
I'm even surprised that the author of such narrative is a male - this is not the style of writing I acquaint with men
It sounds more like a person relaying gossip than a memoir
Permit to ask, Umar Mash is this memoir loosely based on your life?

OLAADEGBU:
Racist Priest slap a woman in "Church"

Ok I do not condone the actions of the so called Priest but what exactly informed you he was "racist"? Because the woman (who threw water in his face) and he retaliated by slapping was "black"?

Is it possible for a dark skinned person to be racist?

Is it possible for a dark skinned person not to be a victim? Shall there only be one role accorded to each persons by virtue of skin colour? What defines a "racist"?

GAR3TH:
If anything most edo people affiliate themselves with other groups in delta state because historically those groups came from the same Bini empire, hence why they share similar cultures. Culturally speaking, apart from the Oba, both igbos and yorubas don't really share anything cultural with edos.

What of the fine artistry from both the Binis and Yorubas (Ile Ife) . . . I heard there was a link there, no?

GAR3TH:
Its a bit confusing but there are Edo(bini) ethnic group, Edo (state) and Edo (people/speaking groups). The first two are simple to define but the last one, edo people/speaking groups, are people who have cultural, linguistic, ancestral or biological links to the original benin empire. So people who are considered edo(bini) people can be found in other states and speak different language variations, for example the Urhobos in delta can be call edo speaking people. On the other hand Igbos can live in edo state but they aren't necessarily edo (ethnic) or edo( people/speaking groups)

GAR3TH:
You guys do realize that when people refer to edos they are mainly talking about edo people (speaking groups), such as the Bini, Esan, Afemai, Isoko, Urhobo and many other edo groups. In other words what may be true for one edo group may not necessarily be true for other edo groups.

Thanks for the clarification.

Fulaman198:
It's ok, like I said not everyone gets angered easily, especially those of us in the younger generation, we are less irritable.

HEHEHE no, Nigeria has the largest population of Fulani people in West Africa, but not the highest concentration.  Guinea has a population that is 50%+ Fulani.  So while we boast the highest number of Fulani people (given Nigeria's high population), we don't have the concentration % of Fulani that Guinea does.

Yes this is how I used to rationalize such in my head - concentration vs population. But I had no idea Nigeria had the largest Fulani population in West Africa. I thought it will either be Senegal or Guinea in fact.

Griots can be found in the more rural areas of Northern Nigeria.

I admire the Griots. I used to think Griots were exclusive to a particular ethnic group in the Sahel i.e Wolof.

Fulaman198 thanks again for the information. It was very interesting. Mi yetti sanne sanne

Okay. Not understood!!

La Parisienne , La Parisienne , La Parisienne . I've missed her here

La Parisienne:
J'espère que tout va bien avec toi.

Oui ooo

sauer:
oui, tout va bien avec moi. seulement, je pense que je travaille trop 

La Parisienne/emöfine/freecocoa/Flashaldrin

Na so e be, no rest for the wicked Legend
Schade.

girl peck

prank him

La Parisienne et sauer

If it's not a Nigerian surely it's Indian. Hmm I wish her all the luck in this world

DanKan0:
Might go Sudan this summer. For first hand information 

I plan on going to Sudan for first-hand info too but not this summer though.

If you do go this summer update us o

Fulaman198:
I think the whole temperament thing is blown out of proportion.  There are kind and mean people in every ethnic group.  I do not feel that we in Fulani in Nigeria are any different from other Fulani.  We have a code we adhere to called Pulaagu.  It's a way of life.  To be a good Fulani, one must be modest, humble, always seeking knowledge and truth, but also to be brave.

I was actually weary to ask that first question because I didn't know how to word it without offending some persons. And yes there are good and bad people everywhere.
Always seeking truth? truth of what kind? religious/spiritual?

Actually I used to wonder why the Fulanis in Nigeria were referred to as "Fulani" and the Senegalese for example often used the term "Peul" etc . .I intially thought it was due to the Hausa pronunciation because I've heard that Hausa people sometimes mix the "F" sound with the "P" sound.

The media likes to sometimes spoil the name of people who are mainly Muslim throughout the world.  Fulani in Nigeria are viewed as brothers and sisters to other Fulani in other Fulani West African countries.  In fact on facebook, there are many Fulani groups and we all get along great trying to adapt to each others slightly different dialects within the same language.  Every year, there is a conference called KJPF (Kawtal Jangoobe Pulaar Fulfulde) in which all Fulani countries participate.  In 2009, this event was hosted in Yola, Nigeria.  Sometimes, it is hosted in Guinea, Senegal, etc.

That's great. Has there ever been a Kawtal Jangoobe Pulaar Fulfulde conference hosted in Sudan?
Did you attend the one in Yola?

One thing that surprised me though is that most Fulani thought that the Adamawa Fulfulde dialect was spoken only in Cameroon and not Nigeria, or they thought that the Adamawa Dialect was the only dialect spoken in Nigeria.  What they fail to realize is that Nigeria has several Fulani dialects.  A lot of other Fulani think that Nigerian Fulanis no longer speak the native tongue.  To some extent they are correct (as aforementioned, the Fulani in the Northwest can't speak 1 kobo of Fulfulde).  But we in the Northeast or we who originate in the North east can.

Lol @ Northwest not even speaking 1 kobo of Fulfulde. Yeah I found it kinda strange that the conquerors ended up speaking the language of those who they subdued. Usually it's the other way around no matter how difficult or easy the language of the conqueror is.

Fulani, Hausa, Kanuri all try to get along in Nigeria.

I included Kanuri because I usually hear of the Hausa and Fulani's and they seemed like allies thus wondered how relations were like with the Kanuris.

For me, I view Southerners with a lot of respect, in fact many Fulani do.  Of course in every ethnic group, one will find people who choose to stay only with their ethnic group (this is prevalent everywhere in the world).  But most Fulani are not like that.

Oh so Fulanis intermingle? I've always assumed they were private and conservative people.

It is truly hard to estimate the amount of "ethnic" Fulani in Nigeria.  As far as Fulani speakers go I would say between 3 and 4 million in Nigeria.  But those who are ethnic Fulani maybe around 12 million? I am not sure as I could be wrong. That number includes all fulani people whether they can or can't speak the language.

That's a lot. I thought they'd number in the thousands even. Is the population of Fulanis in Nigeria one of the highest recorded for West Africa?

If you want to have a good idea of Fulani culture, you must understand Puulagu.  It is the very basis of Fulani culture as every Fulani from Senegal to  Sudan practices it.  The Wodaabe in Niger and Chad are not as Islamized as we are in Nigeria apparently.  The thing about being a nomad is that you are constantly on the move and sometimes don't have time for deep prayer.

I've been curious as to how the Wodaabe's especially will be viewed. They host male beauty pagenats so I've wondered if such event was looked down on by other Fulanis.

Fulani culture places a huge emphasis on music and being humble.

That's beautiful.
[Side Note:] Can griots be found in Northern Nigeria?

It is kind of odd how the richest man in Africa is a Fulani man (Dangote) and some of the poorest people in Africa are also Fulani.

Hmmm I've loosely considered this. By the way could you explain the Rimbe and Rimaybe class thing in further detail please.

I hope I addressed all your questions.

Yes you have, thanks. How does one say "thank you" in Fulfulde?

Fulaman198:
I do not mind, ask away

Thanks

I've always wondered if it was just my imagination but the Fulani's in nature and temperament appear to be different in other West African countries as compared to Nigerian Fulani's (perhaps news coming from Nigeria overshadows the rest somewhat)

But if it's not my imagination at play or the media being skewed with the news do you have any idea why such difference in behaviours exists among the Fulani's in Nigeria as compared to other West African States?

How are the Fulani's in Nigeria viewed by other West African Fulani's? - I keep on thinking of the Sokoto Caliphate and the spread of Islam so I've always wondered if the Nigerian Fulani's were revered/respected in the region?

How do the Fulani's view the Hausa's, Kanuri's and Southerners?

I understand Islam plays a big role to Fulani's so I've wondered if Fulani traditional culture shares similarity with Islam?

Do you know the estimate number of Fulani's in Nigeria?

How close or brotherly are the Fulani's to each other from across West Africa i.e. how do the Fula's in Senegal receive their Fulani brothers in Nigeria etc?

P.S I hope none of my questions offends if so I do apologise, it wasn't intentional.

The last few posts on here were really interesting and informative especially Fulaman198's posts.
It's really good to hear directly from both the Hausa and Fulani groups and not just have to rely on second hand information or hearsay.
I have a few questions to ask myself if you guys don't mind?

2mch:
Very very important. . But some wowo people can come together and have fine kids and vice versa. 

Valid point. Negative times negative na positive abi
Jokes aside you made a good point and like you say it can also be vice versa or maybe it' s just relative.