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Wawwwwww(in Luka's voice)

The phenomenon known as growth observed in all living things is what would differentiate between manmade and natural creations in the future. I don't see robots or any man made thing having the capacity to grow although it's not a verifiable claim right now. Who knows how much damage or progress humanity can achieve in robotics within the next century?

LearnITsmash:
The clown above me is one of the reasons why Nigerians are senseless, now let me make this very simple, religion is the downfall of the entire black race and its because we have never for once tried to grow our race via producing our own stuff, we have always depended on other people sweat to survive hence our poor state, religion is the worst thing to happen to our black race

Not entirely true.
The black mentality is downfall of the entire black race cos even in developed societies,there isn't any major progress or achievements associated with the general black community and not just individuals.
Religion is an abstract concept.The blame game has to stop. Ben Carson & many others are perfect examples of why this mentality you have is largely invalid.

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Lmaooo...I'm just seeing the work you've been doing on this thread bruh...Classic jesusjnr

I take those words back.You haven't repented and it's still hilarious.
Keep it up tho

jesusjnr:
Lolz!
However i must say meanwhile that whatever happened, that your comments here clearly show a sharp contrast to your comments then that I couldn't even link such comment to you..

I don't think there's a major difference in my ideologies within the time we had that convo and now. I'd admit I have changed but not in the aspect of my core values.You need to examine the convo we had to understand why I chose to be spiteful&take up my role as the antagonist seriously.Although it seems you've repented from your ways and turned a new leaf. Fingers crossed as regards to your speculations.Maybe,just maybe you're right.

jesusjnr:
I'm good oh thanks.

You know, it was after that, I bumped into our past exchanges and I was like, what

No way!!!

Well i really liked your comments here, it made much sense.

Keep it up and God bless!

Lol..I know what your getting at but it's all good.I'll leave you to your imagination and speculations which you should reserve until your certain of them.
Thanks btw and God bless.

jesusjnr:
Emperorharry, long time no chat.

Sup bro..It's been a while,howzit going?

I didn't even know it was your comments I was liking and sharing.

Waaaaaaawwww...Well now you know.

Hmmm, let me reserve my comments for later, except you want to tell me something now that I don't know yet.

No not really. Is there something I should be telling you? Cos I'm pretty sure there's nothing to tell.

BabyApple:
Brother nothing like Islamic heaven sir. Who am i to judge who is going to heaven or who is going to Hell. Who created those terrorist ? Is it not Allah? Who created those that terrorist killed is it not Allah?... I am not in the position to say this one or that one is going to hell or heaven. Lets leave everything for God to judge. But the bitter truth is that if anyone of them come out and repent and forsake their way ... Am not sorry to tell you that Allah may Forgive them and may decide to punish them... Its is left for Allah to decide their fate not me.. Because All Human are Allah property. If you steal my money and you go to Allah seeking for forgiveness , my brother walahi its not Allah that will forgive you.. You will have to come to me and seek for my forgiveness then Allah will forgive you... We all know it is illegal to commit adultery ... Who do 2 people that commit adultery offend? Is it not God. If they ask for forgiveness Allah will forgive them but if they die without seeking for forgiveness and they die associating partner with Allah... My brother .. We are allow to say it is Hell fire on the day of judgement.

Well it's seems you are condoning such actions and stating it doesn't have a defined consequence. Kicking against it isn't enough to stop Islamic extremists...That's why I needed to know just what the Islamic judgement would be like for this guys.It seems you are not sure either which means these people are justified in some way,hence their actions don't have definite eternal consequence.
In Christianity a murderer is deemed to be eternally damned if he/she dies without asking forgiveness.So a suicide bomber is given one ticket straight to hell. As you can see,there would be no uncertainty from a Christian follower when asked the question I just asked you.This makes me doubt how much effort is made to ensure these terrorists aren't justified in anyway.

I have nothing against the Islam and I've enjoyed learning a few things I didn't previously know about the religion. This was the defining moment tho. The neutral take you had makes me wonder if these people aren't condemned by their fellow Muslims and there's a support whether directly or indirectly for their violent mission.
I know not all Muslims are violent or wish death on everybody that isn't a follower.That's why I wanted to know more about the religion's views.I want to be certain it is a religion that prohibits to the highest degree violence of any nature or in the name of jihad.I'm definitely not convinced about that after your reply.

BabyApple:
The major thing is not to die as a disbeliever.. Then leave the rest for God.

Are you saying that these Islamic extremists and fanatics have a chance of making Islamic heaven? Cos that's the question I'm asking there.
How's the afterlife of a suicide bomber going to be like in your opinion? That's my question

BabyApple:
Thank you very much for taking your time to ask question about Islam i am very Glad and Happy. My Brother , Scholars preach against such action every now and then .. They claim to be a Muslim but they go into worship places to kill people in churches and mosques. My brother Let me tell you .. Even during War ( I mean during the Prophet time ) It is illegal for Muslim Army to Harm anyone that enter any place of worship whether it is church or where idol worshipper worship their idol or any place of worship.. Once them don enter that place of worship.. You dare not harm them.. During this war GUESS WHAT, if anyone say Lahila Ilala ( Meaning There is No deity worthy of worship beside the God that created the whole universe ) he won't be kill.. Weda its genuine or not.. You dare not kill them.. One of the prophet companion did and when the prophet heard about it .. He was so angry to the extent that God reveal a verses on top that issue. Walahi Allah is more merciful than what we could think of. Ask me anything i will any 1 million times.

That's new...So what's your verdict..Eternal enjoyment or damnation?

BabyApple:
I can only talk for myself sir. I dont know the level of knowledge of other Muslim but it is a major sin in Islam. There are 3 sins which God always Lay Emphasise on in Quran which is
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1. Association of Partner with Him.
2. Killing Innocent Soul for Unjust reason.
3. Fornication and Adultery...

It is mentioned in several verses of the quran. The problem is some people know but they dont work on their character and conduct or rather they lack knowledge of how God operate. Whats the question i didn't answer bro?

Thanks for the enlightenment bruh.
And about the question was "how do other Muslims feel about these people(Islamic extremists and terrorists)and their actions? Like do you non violent folks feel these guys aren't doing the will of Allah and therefore eternally damned or is it the other way around?

BabyApple:
My brother this is the question i have been waiting for.. Take a look at this verse of the Holy Quran.
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Quran 5:32

'' That was why We wrote for the Children of Israel that who ever killed a soul, except for a soul slain, or for sedition in the earth, it should be considered as though he had killed all mankind; and that who ever saved it should be regarded as though he had saved all mankind. '''' Our Messengers brought them proofs; then many of them thereafter commit excesses in the earth.:::::

My brother do you see the punishment of taking a soul unjustly.
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Islam doesn't teach violent. There are some verses of the Quran that sound violent but in actual fact they are not violent verse.. When we get there i will explain better.

Is this a verse every follower of Islam is aware of? Like a tenet of some sort or like commandments in Christianity that prohibits violence. And there's the other question I asked which you didn't answer in this post.

What do you think is the reason for violent nature of Islamic extremists or terrorists which is usually linked to religious scriptures also and how do other Muslims feel about these people and their actions?

BabyApple:
Yes my brother depending on the goodness you are talking about. As a Muslim and the Ummah of the prophets Muhammad ( Peace Be Upon Him ) Believes in all the books that was revealed by God as long as it does not contradict the fact that God is one. So we believe the bible was revealed by God and so as Quran. We have 2 religious books in Islam the main is the

1 --- Quran which is solely the word of God alone and does not include any other prophets word.

2 --- The Hadith ::::: Which is the Saying of the Prophet Muhammad ( Peace Be Upon Him ). So if you ask me any question i will answer your question from the Quran or Hadith with Prove.

I've already asked my question. All I need from you is an answer and if you can quote any scriptural references backing your answer it would be helpful.
There's this stereotype/misconception that Islam and it's followers breed hatred,violence,hinder progress etc,so all I need from you is an answer that refutes this claim or gives a new perspective on why this stereotype/misconception is wrong.

Does Islam seek the greater good of the world we live in so as to create a better world for everybody irrespective of their religious views? And can you back it with scriptures that support it.That would be very helpful.

The only way that everybody can be happy is if nobody and nothing existed at all whether you look at it from the oblivion perspective or the programmed beings and world perspective. There's no way you can make everybody satisfied in this world except they aren't conscious of their actions or lack to ability to make choices and want things for themselves.

Kingkun69:
american dad>>>>>Family Guy
After a while Family Guy became stale and forced they don't even make gay jokes again I am watching Rick and Morty now and that thing is soloo funny and the way Rick talks is so...

Yeah rick and Morty is a religion now and somehow they managed to make irritable and alcohol addicted rick look good. Can't wait for the season 4 in November. I think after Seth left the writing crew of family guy and took up the Orville. The show started reducing the hurtful&carefree jokes and started caring more about the content they create so as to avoid the backlash they experienced under Seth's reign.It's still a good show tho,not just as funny as the new ones.

Akanniade:
Futurama is a good one is you are science inclined.

Good ol' futurama.