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LadunaI:
125 I think they are up to 24,000 Prophets to have been sent to mankind, while only 25 were mentioned in holy Qur'an. And five of them are uuzul Azim.

124,000 rather.

LadunaI:
Yeah I always thought as much that Khidr was a saint rather than a prophet. But evidences presented by scholars that arogue in favour of him to be prophet is overwhelming.

I watched video series of Sheikh Yasir Ghadi exegesis of surat khaf, and he provided good points to support the fact Khidr was a prophet rather than mere wali.

However, his immortality status still raised a lot of argument as in perhaps may be he is an Angel, because no man could be living till eternity or for man y centuries. While some majority of al sunnah scholars believed otherwise (that Khidr is dead) many great Sufi sheikhs encountered with Khidr cannot be brushed aside. I even learnt that the famous Imam An Nawawi had a brief meetings with Khidr also.

No doubt I believe al Khidr is an enigma whose status cannot be less than a prophet!

As per my understanding of how Ikupakuti view Khidr is more or less like a GREAT Saint whose constant devotional activities has transformed him to status of "Rawaniya" lol and equate the like of Asif of prophet Sulaiman era as one of such. He said there are like perm sec for the Prophets.

Only Allah truly knows. Argument i see lately as recent as last week was he is alive. The brother said it emphatically. I dont have this knowledge at the moment. I call him Mr. Green in spiritual realm only "programmed" by Allah to teach esoteric knowledge.

JeromeBlack:
Morality is subjective. Morality changes

In the 70s, people thought that smoking cigarettes was okay.

I'm sure it was halal until the late 80s when they found out it was cancerous.

What kind of jagbajagba is this in the name of defending vices smh

JeromeBlack:
Sex education actually plays a part in reducing teen pregnancy.

But you wouldn't know that because your madrasa taught you to hate western concepts.

Fake news. I guess you need to look around you or better still, travel around the world to see how "sex education reduces teen pregnancy". Nonsense. What kinda white lie is this?

JeromeBlack:
Keep quiet.

1966. Muslims like you always dragging us to the past

Even if it year 2050 what was wrong in 1966 is wrong now. The only thing that changed was the law. The law persecuted them bcuz it recognized danger this practice poised to the community. It protects them in 21st century but it is still the same act. And now, see what it is doing to people

Saucyxo:
Lol. Sis. I've literally explicitly contradicted what you said. I'm not bipolar. I said "Everyone knows homosexuality is haram but we shouldn't hate. We should be righteous and treat them righteously." Like....

I can't believe there are people with access to FREE education in order to read and comprehend and they dont use it. Anyways. Like I've said... you dont have to support homosexuality. No one cares. You will not discriminate against them. The "gay education" you bashed is to educate kids to be tolerant. Something the Quran also teaches.

Its funny that you're not against sex education or even evolution that schools teach even though they're against the Qurans teaching. Schools teach Zina and gender equality. I didnt see your protest. You can go to a private school lol or leave the country!!!!! Ah ahn. Did they tie your hands ni. You're Nigerian. Go back to Nigeria. A PUBLIC school is able to teach about PUBLIC societial rules and laws.

Hating gay people is homophobic babes. Are you sure this isn't personal? Did a lady steal your woman or you dabble in the practice yourself ?

No, i can read btw the line. If you understand and declare something is haram, you have no more business advocating for it or indireclty defending homosexual as you rightly put up defence against sino's. This means that you consider it haram is a lip service. I am not a fool. And at no point i have ever supported the so called sex education. You can quote me if i did. If you cant it means you lied. Sex education in itself exposes kids to sexual immorality. It improves nothing in the community. If something is haram it must be hated. What we dont do it attack the one who engages in it. That's a crime. Only the State has the right to persecute. You can hate a gay man but don't attack him. Attacking him is tantamount to hate crime. Just like atheists openly say in secular world "fuvk the modafuvking G-d". No one arrest them for it bcus it is not a crime. But attacking believers in God is.

So the so called "gay lesson" being taught in the UK is introduction and exposition of children to this debauchery.

Saucyxo:
"I stand to be corrected... " that's the paragraph I'm going to reply you on. There were many many many mental disorders back in the days. That's why we have an ever evolving educational system. There was also a mental disorder that "proved" black people were incapable of handling freedom and they should remain slaves. These same medical professionals used to drink heroine to cure sickness and approved putting cocaine in coca cola. They were wrong. They admitted they were wrong. Homosexuality is not a mental disorder.

The anus is not a sex organ but it has a g spot just for pleasure. . Many men, hetro and homo sexuals love stimulating their anal g spot. You should try it .

The last point about what is normal in a relationship in terms of gender roles isn't even worthy of discussion I'm sorry.

see this guy openly defending vices yet claimed to be Muslim

Saucyxo:
I'm a Muslim.

I never thought 20 years ago a Muslim would defend homosexual. My question for you is, since you claimes to be muslim, it means you must have read Quran stance on it.

Is homosexual Haram or halal according to Quran?. Please answer this question. According to definition of homosexuality in the Qur'an, it is sexual relation between parties of the same sex. A Muslim must not openly support Haram.

Even though sexual relationship with opposite sex is human fitra but committing Zina is Haram. I have not seen any Muslim, sheikh or imam openly supported Zina. We all preach against it but this doesn't mean Muslims don't engage in it secretly. That's no one's business. But it is our business when you openly condone Zina. We must stand to challenge it.

In the same way, is homosexual haram in the Qur'an?. Is so why are you condoning it openly?. Hating the practice is not homophobic. I must teach my children to hate the practice but not to insult or attack those who do. Answer my question, sir.

LadunaI:
Wow! What an extreme quiet in here lol .

Empi.ree and other sheikhs in the the house I have a question. What is status of hadrat Khidr. Is he prophet of Allah, or a waliy ( perhaps as siddiq )or is he an angel?

All my life I have never believed khidr was a prophet but mere knowledgeable man blessed by Allah. But in recent years after watching numerous lectures like sheikh onikijipa, sheik Assim etc. They affirmed his prophethood with evidence from sura khaf 65 where Allah addresses khidr as His servant. This prompted a new meaning of the Ayah by virtue of their interpretation.

I have always equated khidr to famous powerful non-prophets like status of Maryam (as), ZulQurnain (as) etc

The question I haven't got answer for is, if khidr was prophet why is He not mentioned along with "25prophets" mentioned in the Quran?. Sheikh onikijipa would say "anobi khdiru". I believe the same issue was raised with ikupakuti. He also believes khidr was a prophet.

The "Dangers" of Homosexuality
Clip: Season 23 Episode 9 | 1m 41s

A policeman's 1966 lecture to teenagers on how homosexuality can destroy lives.


https://www.pbs.org/video/american-experience-dangers-homosexuality/



And guard yourselves against a chastisement which cannot fall exclusively on those of you who are wrong-doers, and know that Allah is severe in punishment.



Whether you hear or not I only wanted to send the same warning Allah revealed in His Glorious Book so that I am not guilty when time comes. One thing is to practice this stupid thing in your privacy but it is entirely different when people come in the open to embrace and promote it. That's what attracts destruction.

And we have so called muslims promoting this vice in the name of tolerance. It is incumbent on upright muslims to warm against it because when punishment comes it affects not only offenders but guiltless as well. I hope Nigeria still has the law in place. Even in some state in Western world it is still illegal. They are scared of legalizing homosexual. They know repercussions. There is difference between legalizing homosexual and gay secret practice. Legalizing homosexual is validating Haram. They know it. You do have your right to be gay in a country that allows it. That's your prerogative.

OfficialMURIC:
The Muslim Rights Concern (MURIC) has accused Adeleke University, Ede, Osun State, of persecuting Muslim students in the institution. According to the Islamic human rights organization, the private tertiary institution is serially violating the fundamental human rights of Muslim students in the institution.

This was disclosed in a press statement circulated on Tuesday, 18th June, 2019 by the Director of MURIC, Professor Ishaq Akintola.

“Adeleke University is a serial violator of Allah-given fundamental rights of Muslim students. This institution forces Muslim students to attend church on Sundays. It makes it mandatory for students living in the hostel to attend church every Wednesday and Saturday.

“The practice of any other faith on campus except Christianity is banned. Muslim students must not be seen observing Salat. Hijab is a taboo in Adeleke University. Yet all these Islamophobic practices are smartly hidden from prospective students of the institution until they have paid the exorbitant school fees and can no longer withdraw.

“We call on the National Universities Commission (NUC) to come to the rescue of Muslim students in Adeleke University. It is a religious scam. This institution hides under a non-religious nomenclature to ensnare Muslim students into an enclave of religious apartheid.

“In particular, we invite NUC to take a look at the students’ handbook of this institution, especially pages 7, 49, 50, 56 and 60. These pages, to our mind, contain rules that infringe on the religious freedom of Muslim students. As a regulating body, NUC has a duty to intervene in this matter as part of its oversight function on Nigeria’s universities.

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“Many private universities do not bear Christian names but they pursue Christian evangelical goals. Worse still, they lack the spirit of tolerance. Muslim candidates who have already chosen private universities where they are likely to become victims of Islamophobia are, therefore, advised to apply for a change of university before it is too late.

“Western education was the weapon used by the British colonialists to coerce Muslims into converting to Christianity in the past. The new trick is to use private universities to achieve the culpable. It will serve as a deterrent for other neo-imperialists masquerading as higher institutions.”

Professor Ishaq Akintola,
Director,
Muslim Rights Concern (MURIC)


http://muslimrightsmuric..com/2019/06/adeleke-university-persecuting-muslim.html?m=1

Proffwhyhurry12:
This accusation is highly condemned and has to be look into. There is iota of truth in every rumors. I remember in my Primary and secondary school that we are forced to close our eyes on assembly ground during morning devotion infact during that time they'll come after we Muslim to check maybe we really close our eyes. Though we were given the right to lead and pray Islamic way on Friday

I have no doubt these allegation are true. Screenshot below is conversation with a family member last week.

Yet CHRISTIANs said Buhari wants to islamise Nigeria. But I blame Muslim students who chose the university.. Must you go there when it is clear it is a Christian owned and operated institution.

I almost forgot. Part of what i need to look for is automatic transmission. I doubt i can operate shift. Been decades I drove shift. Shift is weird to me now.

Saucyxo:
Lol you're a very confused individual babes. I even went to go read the full article. That's exactly what it says.

I dont personally agree with homosexuality but I will not discriminate. I'm a Muslim so I wont pray your kids end up hateful, spiteful, intolerant terrorists. Neither will I pray they end up in a position that they will be treated unfavourably because of anything that they do or the way they are. I hope the schools they go to teach tolerance in spite of differences or disagreement so they dont end up in a bad situation.

you don't understand anything at all. Now that I put pressure you agree that you don't agree with homosexual. That was my point all along.


The only difference between us is you publicly condone their right to practice it. That's clear from your posts.

What I disagree with is always discrimination against them like verbal or physical attacks on them. Why did you skipped this?. Now that I cited close example you said you don't agree with homosexual. Indeed

Listen bro, I will teach my children to hate homosexual practices with all their heart and soul but do not attack or discriminate against them.. if they come to your job and you are manager or CEO don't deny them employment on this basis etc. That's my point. But we hate them for this practice. Read btw the lines.

Saying I hate gay or homosexual is not tantamount to homophobic. But attacking and denying them basic needs are.

And there is a job I can't personally give them like TEACHING. Either Islamic teaching or Western education. No. I don't want them near my kids. That's not homophobic. That's my right to protect my children from them.

They can keep their homononsense to their bedrooms. That's fine with me. You however professed publicly what's in your heart. So I won't be surprised if your children end up gay. It is a fact, not making fun of you. At that time you be like "it is their right"

Smiling and suffering


It is responsibility of Muslim parents to teach their kids about halal and haram

Saucyxo:
Lol the sanction is... they'll ban anti gay activists from entering their country.

I'm tired of you. I'm tired of your twisting a very clear headline. Please don't take this personal

I hope all your kids turn gays/lesbians before your eyes. Only then you get to think properly. But I'm sure you will come out with your brown teeth to tell us "it is their right". But inside of you is burning

Saucyxo:
That's their country. I dont see your point. You're free to move there if you want to discriminate.

The screenshot you just sent me said the US bans homophobics from their country. Why shouldn't they ? They ban racists and terrorists. They can do what they like.

you skipped headline all the way from top and middle only to pick the bottom line to make yourself feel good. Kontinu

Saucyxo:
Nonetheless, no one is being imposed. Gay partnerships are legal in Britain. If you do not want to learn about the society in which you live in go to a private school. The British government is funding these schools and can teach what they see fit.

how about sanction on countries that punish gay? Is that not imposing this sexual orientation on others?. Our world is not homogeneous my friend.

Saucyxo:
Just to clarify here, they're not teaching anyone to be gay. They're educating children not to discriminate. They do this with every minority group that may be subject to discrimination. Source: I live in Birmingham, UK and I'm training to be a teacher.

You sound someone filled with hatred. Islam says we should follow the law if the land were in. You're outside Nigeria I'm assuming and reaping the benefits of being outside Nigeria. You're not better in terms of morality than anyone else. They've chosen to live life that way. You do not have to agree to their lifestyle choice but you have chosen to live among them so the very least you will do is not discriminate. As much as Islam hates homosexuality, I believe it hates judgemental people even more.

you will never understand until some of those children eventually turn gay. That's their goal. They don't have to tell you they aren't teaching gay. No one tells you to hate nobody. Please stop using this tactic. I have said earlier that no one has the right to attack others for their sexual orientation. Why are you guys doing injustice to yourself?.

My question is why did they single out homosexual of all subjects?. They have ulterior motives which you guys are blind to see. Don't worry about where I live.

By constitutional rights in UK etc, no one should be discriminated against. Constitution already guarantees this. So why is there a need for them to single out this class to teach kids to be tolerate towards them?. It is parents job to teach their kids not to hate anyone or attack anyone.

Question still remains because the other guy didn't answer. Why did they single out gay lesson to be taught at junior school?.

These kids are naturally on fitra. They want to distort their natural order. If you don't see that now just wait when parents get worried about their kids turn gay. I'm sure that UK law doesn't allow public nudity. In that case I don't expect gays or straight to have intercourse in public. It is a private thing. Therefore they should keep their homosexual life in their bedrooms. No one knows what goes on there. Why did they need to advertise and impose special lesson on people?.

I never claimed to have perfect life than them but we all know what is wrong is wrong. You don't need to be religious or cite Islam before refuting this. These people in authority that legalized homosexual don't themselves do it save few. But they want to destroy your life in the name of your 'rights'.

sarahade:
I won't reply you anymore because i can see you are angry.
But wait how does the health risk involved in homosexuality affect you?

Sir your argument on homosexuality is not valid even life itself is a risk. Drinking water sef is risky so what are you saying.

Please if you have a problem with homosexuals that is your problem not mine or that of anyone . Thanks

keep it in your bedroom. That's all. No one cares what you do in your bedroom. Straight people don't come out here to advertise they are straight. Why should homosexual folks come out to play victim card and impose their sexual orientation on others?.

I have no idea how you determined if I'm angry. This tactic is very common from the losing side. What's anger has to do when in fact this is a faceless forum?. Does this makes sense to you?.

JeromeBlack:
Empir.ee is chopping cane for Islam as usual.

guy, while Islam has its stance on it, no religion supports this practice. And sometimes we don't need to cite religion to refute homosexual. Sane humans simply dislike homosexual. It is not a natural way of life.

Anyone who's against homosexual practice regardless of religion is my ally on this. Sad thing about this is that many of you guys commenting on here your family don't know what you do online. It is very sad thing when all of a sudden your sexual orientation changes at home.

Parents really need to watch out what their kids do online. Many of you guys are unfortunate victims of broken homes, child abuse, mental breakdown, depression etc

OtemAtum:
Allah e trish lep abunobahit vak e yekot.

Guy, why are you shaming yourself everywhere?. You just started rubbish in the other thread and now you came here making fool of yourself. Smh.

Is this your religion you tried to profess?. Like I knew you have nothing upstairs

^^ That up there doesn't worth my time.

^^^

This thread is introduction for new Muslims. If you have issue to discuss open a separate thread. This thread is not meant for irrelevant topic of yours

oyatz:
We are definitely not operating from the same frequency.

I am not into dick measuring contest with you, go and look for your mates.
Point to any statement I wrote that was a lie.

Don't quote me again if you don't understand what I wrote.

escape route after seeing screenshot. Nonesense

budaatum:
Where are they heading?

fold hands and watch them as days go by.

If I say anything now you won't agree with me. So just wait and thank me later.

oyatz:
Then you shouldn't have tried to down play my efforts.

This is not about Politics. Everything I wrote happened and are 100% true.


Nigerians have been killed by Islamic fundamentalists for similar and even lesser issues.


Kiss the truth.

one again, guy, please we don't need propaganda here. I know from day one the moment you posted your first post. Please take your propaganda elsewhere. Were Muslims not killed by the same people?.

How about this (screenshot)?.

Guy, don't get me started

OtemAtum:
Yes I know it's Islam section. I'm here for a purpose, to open their eyes to the truth.

oh well, you are on a dead mission then

OtemAtum:
I don't actually have a religion. I was only trying to introduce the truth of the UNIVERSE. Maybe I shouldn't have done that anyway.

you should have thought about this before posting. This is Islam section.

oyatz:
What are you saying?

Were you not in this country when the then deputy Governor of Zamfara State, Mahmud Shinkafi declared that 'All Muslims should consider the killing of Isioma Daniel (a journalist with ThisDay Newspaper) a Religious obligation' for writing an article in the Newspaper about the likelihood of Prophet Mohammed approving the holding of Miss World beauty peagents and possibly marrying one of the contestants if he were to be alive in 2002?

Where were you when many Nigerians were killed by Muslim terrorists because someone in Faraway Denmark drew a cartoon of Prophet Mohammed?

Where were you when Gideon Akaluka was beheaded by Islamic fundamentalists in Kano and his head paraded on a stick simply because his wife wiped her anus with a sheet of paper with Arabic inscription which they claimed was Quran (actually a Shia propaganda Magazine from Iran)?



I am trying to prevent potential violence and you are discouraging it

guy, I don't have time for this. Don't bring politics here, please. Thanks

budaatum:
It wasn't "single out gay lessons"! It was Equality lessons which I detailed for you above and here again, teaching them not to discriminate against anyone because of their age, being or becoming a transsexual person, being married or in a civil partnership, being pregnant or on maternity leave, disability, race including colour, nationality, ethnic or national origin, religion, belief or lack of religion/belief, sex, sexual orientation. It was the parents who objected and made the news "gay lessons" and which you heard and without researching into it yourself changed into "two brothers" which is not honest!

You do know it was being taught in every school in the country? Do you think they were teaching their own children to be gay too or are you just not using your brain? This is Birmingham UK. They would not be teaching "don't discriminate" if there was no need for it. Even the people protesting will tell you they are being discriminated again. We deal with discrimination by educating that stupidity out of you!

I will not be corrected by your "equal rights". The school is pro LGBT. If you don't know where they are heading with this I know

oyatz:
Which truths?

Your so-called truths can lead to the loss of lives and properties of innocent Nigerians when Terrorists start Killing people for your insults against Allah.

guy, stop inciting hatred here. No one is killing anyone. OtemAtum had right to post his introduction. My response here is more appropriate to bring his attention to the wrong thread. Only op has final say not me either.

Please stop hatred against muslims. Thanks

OtemAtum:
the OP said we should introduce ourselves and I did. How is this a wrong thread for my introduction?

op said



"Muslim Newbies, introduce yourselves"


You didn't just introduced yourself but your religion.

budaatum:
If you knew anything about the Birmingham you are talking about you'd understand that they were teaching the Equality Act 2010 which makes it illegal to discriminate against anyone because of their age, being or becoming a transsexual person, being married or in a civil partnership, being pregnant or on maternity leave disability, race including colour, nationality, ethnic or national origin, religion, belief or lack of religion/belief, sex, sexual orientation which the parents protesting had to learn for their citizenship to remain in the country.

Or would you rather we don't teach them to live and let live?

now you have successfully shifted goalpost. It is already Constitutional rights for anyone to be whatever they want to be. My question is why single out gay lesson?.

I don't support any individual attacking anyone due to their sexual orientation. That's a crime. But from moral standpoint, homosexual is wrong. Whoever chose to practice it should do so in their private life. Why teach children this specific case in school?. Rather they should teach that it is against the law to attack people due to whatever reason it is. Only govt has the right to PERSECUTE. Period.

Why do they not teach them to tolerate incest?

OtemAtum:
I am Otem of Truth, born to declare the truth of our Universe to the world. I have come to reveal the creator of your god Allah. By making the Creator of Allah known, the world will start to live right, using their brains, worshipping no god and doing good to humanity.

Currently Allah is in a spiritual cage where his god mates have confined him to.

Greetings to you all.

wrong thread, buddy