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MaxInDHouse:
If it's about selling what they have and sharing the proceeds EQUALLY among themselves that is EVIL from the standpoint of our greatest counselor.
Remember Judas Iscariot raised the suggestion when Jesus was with the apostles {John 12:5} but Jesus told them:
For you always have the poor with you, and you can do them good whenever you want to, but you will not always have me. Mark 14:7

So since Jesus never agreed to the idea nor did it then such practice is from the flesh not the spirit!

Waoooo what the Apostles did by selling their properties and share it EQUALLY among themselves is EVIL

Let me see how many of your brothers will agree with you on this.

Before I bring fact.

MightySparrow:
The deity of Jesus written in The Finished Mystery is quietly discarded. Unless you are familiar with their teachings, you won't know anything. You need to read their Awake twenty years ago. So voluminous and full of criticisms and condemnation of churches with and without evidences.

They can't deny that Russell taught worshiping of Jesus Christ and all other doctrines.

Yet it's the one Jesus found worthy among ALL THE RELIGIONS ON EARTH and Jesus still allowed him to die worshiping Him when Jesus knows He is not to be worshipped.

They won't agree Russell is a pagan and died as a pagan because Russell is still part of those ruling with Jesus in heaven and directing the current Watchtower.

MaxInDHouse:
I'm not here for exchange of hurtful words o!

How is that my business?

Between Jesus and John the baptist who is the founder of Christianity?

Christian was derived from Christ.

A day old Bible student won't even ask a question like this.

John started gathering repentant Jews, he was baptizing them, he baptized Jesus too, many of his disciples later became Christians.

John wasn't THE CHRIST, was he?

So between John who started the whole thing in the first century and Jesus who later came to him who is the founder of Christianity?

John never found anything. He was simply doing his own assignment.

You agreed Russell founded Watchtower but Jesus bought it from him even though you never tell us HOW MUCH IT COST?

MaxInDHouse:
Are you talking about what Jesus (perfect teacher) laid down or what apostles (imperfect teachers) did?
Which one exactly are JWs not practicing?

What Apostles did that have used for example on this forum.

Was it bad or good?

We don't contribute to take it back that's what CHEERFUL GIVERS means {2Corinthians 9:7} Jesus Christ didn't teach us to receive back what we have given out to support God's work! Act 20:35

But Watchtower sold your Halls

Do they share it EQUALLY among JWs?

That's what God's organization is doing for our brothers who are less privileged to enjoy pure worship in all places! 2Corinthians 8:14

This isn't answer to my question.

Did what Apostles do wrong or right?

MightySparrow:
One fellow in this thread debated me and denied Russell. He wasn't a Jehovah's witnesses. The name changed by Rutherford, therefore, anything about Russell should be discarded.

Well it's ignorance.

Changing name doesn't erase the founder.

Jack is the founder of Twitter, Elon Musk bought it and change the name to X.

Does that mean Jack isn't founder of X?

If anything by Russell should be discarded, why are they still believe that Jesus returned in 1914? because that was Russell ideas copied from SDA.

Why are they still referring to their gods in Warwick as Faithful and discreet slave?

because these are Russell ideas.

In fact, Russell and his team are the ones Jesus met when he searched the whole Earth and found no true Christian.

These are the reasons Watchtower can't openly discard Russell.

MightySparrow:
Can see dishonesty? Can one say today that Can one say today that Methodist Church has nothing to do with John Wesley or Apostolic Faith with Florence Crawford? There are some Bible passages these people would not wish are in the scriptures. John 1:1 is one. They can by 'New Lights ' deny God altogether.
Holy Spirit is misguiding idiots.
Same Holy Spirit that guided Isaiah, Moses, Paul? Only God knows where there own Holy Spirit came from.

This mind manipulators have replaced the brain of their followers with pap

Stupidpreneurs

That's it!

And the truth is that, they know by their today's standard. Russell and his team too far from it.

So, they need to make way for excuses.

1. Russell was not perfect as God always used imperfect people for His task.

2. Many servants of God made mistakes in the Bible (Even though nobody ever claimed they never do but no servant of God ever USED GOD'S NAME TO LIE, reason why God even made the statement in Deu 18:20-22)

3. We have a new light.

Though I know Watchtower never discard Russell openly they only make excuses for his (RIGHT) teachings only the MaxinDhouse hallgoer miscreant I've seen telling bold face lies against Russell.

MaxInDHouse:
We are practically applying everything Jesus taught

But you just said you don't practice that.

You mixed it up!
I am a JW so whatever i donate is for the build up of God's organization spiritually speaking as more Bibles, literatures and Halls are put in place where they're NEEDED.

But the same hall will be sold later without your money returned back to you

The apostles shared money to eradicate poverty among the first century Christians that is what Jesus never did neither did he teach them to do so!

So was the practice good or bad?

Why JWs can't follow their example?

JWs sell their hall or not?

MightySparrow:
They are not sincere. I have been reading their publications more than four decades. If you follow this thread, you will see that the Jehovah's Witnesses's of today are denying C.T. Russell. They said he was influenced by the church of his time. With the ' New Lights', the old lights and the bringers are discarded.
In the future, 1914 that seems to be the pillar of JWs will still be discarded by the then lazer light.
They don't have any Holy Spirit ; they are just playing kalokalo with scriptures.
They are living in delusion.

Not even only said "he was influenced by the church of his time" but "he was just a Bible student with his team searching the truth from the scripture and Russell was never a JW"

Yet with all this negative statement, they still believe Russell gave them 1914 accurately.

But no normal person ( I use normal for a reason) will read Russell works and conclude that the person behind it was just doing research.

MaxInDHouse:
They did it against Jesus' teachings because he specifically told them that they will always have the poor among them.

So Jesus teachings aren't applicable to JWs today

Jesus never taught us to do that otherwise there wouldn't have been any poor ones among his disciples!

Ah ah Jesus never TAUGHT you but you're restoring the teachings of the early Christians.

Now, you have confirmed that a teaching practiced by the Apostles no longer applicable to you people now.

You know, JWs sell their properties and never shared EQUALLY among themselves like the apostles did.

So you must find a way to twist and do your normal mumbo jumbo

achorladey:
Never knew one can be under ban in particular section on nairaland while still free to make comments on other sections

Cc: Emusan, Courz

I responded to a post on that thread and I was banned this morning.

Yes! Nairaland band rules has changed.

If it's anti-bot ban, it's just within the section but others sections allow comments & likes.

Aemmyjah:
No matter how peacock wan display
Wind go expose e Yansh
😂
Claiming deeper life and atheistic apostate
There are many things this guy is not telling us. One skeleton de e wardrobe. We don't care to know but he was kicked out from the organization. 👍

So you agree with your brothers that Emusan and Achorladey with Olaadegbu & Johnw47 are the same person, correct?

Janosky:
Is holy spirit giving Sosthenes & Paul conflicting information?

No!

Did Holy Spirit give Russell and Rutherford conflict information?

Is the same ghost that taught your Trinitarian mentors Martin Luther/Charles Spurgeon that Jesus Christ is Archangel Michael & did not teach you Emusan?

The same Jesus who taught Russell that He is God and need to be worshipped is the one who taught you that He is not God and doesn't need to be worshipped.

OPONU JaNosense

MaxInDHouse:
He's just an old fool

See him.

You claimed Holy Spirit told you, Emusan is the same person of Johnw47 & Olaadegbu.

Your brother accused Emusan again as the person of Achorladey.

Have you apologize for that lie?

cornelboy:
I was replying to both of your monikers that day at the same time (Emusan and achorladey).
I said "bye" to achorladey but continued to reply Emusan. You used your achorladey moniker to say I still replied you after saying goodbye. I didn't mind the first time. I went on to reply Emusan again and you repeated the same thing. You specifically said "my byes no dé finish" lol.
The only explanation is that you are the one running both monikers or else tell me how was my replying to Emusan the same as replying to you

Busted!

These are just your own delusions.

Now that you have a window of opportunity to confirm it. Why not take up the challenge?

The Bible you carry did not support false accusation reason why God says you should "Test all things; hold fast to that which is good." 1 Thess 5:21

Devil is the father of all false accusers reason why God doesn't want us to be his child, so he gave us that scripture.

So don't be a coward, since you are so sure of your delusion, then take up the challenge.

Yes! I'm strongly affirmed that I Emusan and Achorladey are not the same person.

So prove this statement wrong!

MaxInDHouse:
Irrelevant question!

If you have an idea just go straight to the point!

He dare not give answer!

The apostles were selling their properties and shared EQUALLY among themselves.

But today JWs are selling properties and never shared EQUALLY rather people like you still donate to them

Sand2022:
The main text for KJV translation is Textus Receptus, Vulgate was secondary. Whether it was found in the vulgate available for KJV translators is open the to question since not all latin versions had the comma.

The point Vulgate is around when KJV was made, so the idea of KJV using the comma didn't come from Erasmus.

I think the majority of scholars, Trinitarians inclusive agree that the comma is spurious. Tomorrow more studies could reveal to the contrary. So let's stick to the best evidence for now.

One of the reasons cite for rejection is that it's not found in the early Greek manuscripts we have in possession today

This thread addressees the reason why scholars rejected it and if their reason hold water or not then proceed to show that the text already in use and can be traced back to 2nd century.

As it was alluded to by early Christians.

There is umlaut there, Payne acknowledged it was there, but he stated that the Johannine comma was not found there. Where was the umlaut found? Close to the "the" in "there are three witness bearers".

Funny, you want something that was removed to still be in place.

So what is in between it?

It's the comma.

This umlaut was not added in the fourth century, but around 10th century by a scribe who saw difference between the Vatican 1209 and other manuscripts in Latin. There had been redaction to the Vatican manuscript over the years.

Where is your evidence for this?

MaxInDHouse:
I have asked you to explain what they were trying to do by selling their properties and sharing the proceeds EQUALLY.
If Dangote, Otedola, Adenuga, Tinubu and many other billionaires in Nigeria today should sell properties worth billions of dollars and decides to share the money equally with those that sold properties worth thousands of Naira what are they trying to do?
Don't be dumb, answer that question first!

Who cares what you think about me?

When your organisation sold their Halls, did they share the proceed EQUALLY among JWs?

Yet you'll still donate to them

Prosper1912:
Dem know say dem don fail like Satan
So since dem know say dem nor fit enter the kingdom, dem wan prevent other from entering.

I guess it's people who have been preventing jws to grow past 9milion followers for over 100years of fruitless effort.

creativehubb:
"A replacement certificate prepared was with CSU because nobody picked it up"

This your statement clearly alludes to the fact that he went to the school and bagged the degree or diploma. He didn't forget nothing, third parties of schools abound worldwide, and they issue valid certifications. Stop sounding foolish because you don't like Tinubu.

When the CSU don't even have clue who requested for it.

Well let me give you permutations on that:

1. Chicago drug case happened in 1993 and a requested was made in 1997 and nobody shows up. Well no one can tell who made the request it might be FBI or Tinubu himself, but if it's Tinubu why didn't he show up to pick it up?

2. This replacement happened in 1997 and in 1999 Tinubu sworn under oath that all his credentials disappeared while on exile, so why didn't he pick it up before 1999 of he surely apply for it?

The fact is that Bola A. Tinubu actually attended CSU but which one?

So Atiku was not after whether attended CSU or not but after the certificate submitted to INEC.

Fact of the matter is, Tinubu didn't forge any certificate, they confirmed he graduated there.

The certificate submitted to INEC was actually a forged one.

If you graduated from a school why must you forged their cert?

You are an idiot for saying be must come pick it up himself, it shows you are very dumb or just talking out of your spite for Tinubu.

So why applying for a replacement when you won't pick it up?

Why did you decide to forge the certificate when you can apply another one?

Don't be mad because you're supporting irregularities.

There are representatives of schools, that can process the results and send to you anywhere you are in the world.

So why didn't Tinubu follow that part but decided to forged the one with him now?

Last clip, Mr Orr who prepared Tinubu's documents and certified them without the consent of CSU as instructed by Wole the legal counsel of Tinubu, left CSU few weeks later.

Can you imagine? Definitely Dollar has exchanged hands

You people can defend anything.

Why the truth so far away from you guys?

creativehubb:
Now blockhead listen.

1) Tinubu has a certificate from CSU, with this he already qualified to contest.

He never had any certificate from CSU.

Go online and search for the certified Deposition copy and read.

A replacement certificate prepared was with CSU because nobody picked it up.

That's why CSU registrar concluded that the one submitted to INEC was not from them.

2) Before CSU, Tinubu has a first level certificate, same as Obi used, with this he is eligible to contest.

What is the name of the first leaving school he attended?

You're still defending a man who claimed to have attended Government College Ibadan under oath but claimed to have attended Government College Lagos to CSU.

Very pathetic.

Why will the court disqualify him when he has a degree from a university, when the requirements is SSCE. Please get sense...what did Obi use to apply to INEC?
SSCE.

CSU already said the certificate he submitted to INEC is not from them.

So where did he see it?

Also, do you know your lying president says in Chatham House last year that his original certificate has been sent to him by CSU, when CSU doesn't even send cert to anybody as the person who requested for replacement must pick it up in person.

But in all you'll be claiming to be the lover of Nigeria when in reality you people are the real enemies of this country.

Aemmyjah:
He's still in pain over someone that is already married... What lust cannot do does not exist

That is why I said you people and your gods dwell in falsehood and the scripture says Devil is the father of all liars

The lady hasn't even married yet!

But since yesterday, you have displayed your dead conscience to the person who you have never met just because you learnt she's no more identify with your demonic organisation.

You are so pained since yesterday just because of the negative review of my friend against your pretentious organisation.

Well your ranting and wailing against her won't change her experience against your organisation, after all you already called her WEREY

yarimo:
In politics class TINUBU is in 400L second semester, ATIKU just wrote jamb while obi is in primary 6

Say in forgery!

You can see from CSU documents that Tinubu claimed to attend Government College Lagos and finished in 1970.

Do you agree with Tinubu on this?

The fake lover and killer of Nigeria.

Aemmyjah:
English has failed some people

Smile....

When they can't proof their point again

cornelboy:
Me a no say you be achorladey so forget about any challenge.

You know and you're afraid to take up the challenge.

So how do you know?

Aemmyjah:
Hate is a strong word amd a wrong word to describe. There are certain foods you don't eat, clothes you won't wear, programs you won't watch, sports you won't watch, places you won't want to go or live. That does not mean you hate them.
English is not hard to understand

It means you HATE them!

Check the meaning of hate.

You're the very one who lacks simple understanding of English.

JWs have confirmed the OP assertion here.

cornelboy:
Challenge wey no go bring money a no dé do

So you prefer to be peddling falsehood against someone than to confirm for yourself as Bible asked you to.

I know if you take that challenge then your brother will be affected too since he claimed it was Holy Spirit who told him that I'm a multiple person here.

That's nice!

Aemmyjah:
Well
Then why should OP bring it up as if it is his own business?

The OP question was, why JWs hate Christian songs but dance to secular music?

The centre point is "HATE" according to the OP

Anytime it's about JWs, you people always trying to remind people it's not their business.

Besides, I don't listen to Naira Marley or Portable or all these songs.

I didn't say you do, I only asked you question

I do enjoy listening to songs of the 80s or 90s...

Well good for you.

JWs have a right to choice of songs or anything.

Do you believe others have the same right of choice?

Why not go and sing Islamic songs where they are being played na since you worship same God

You mean JWs and Muslim worship the same God.

Aemmyjah:
All these religious singers are just businessmen and women

Since they are just business men and women

So what is the different between Tope Alabi that dance to Malian songs and you that dances to the same songs and yet not a business man?

achorladey:
With more lies and manipulations as usual

You know, without lies and manipulations their battered image will remain batter forever.

So they must use more lies to cover previous lies until they get consumed by it.

achorladey:
He even put confirmed

Many problem for MaxInDHouse the insanities and madness peddling peddler to sort

I'm expecting him to show me that version.

cornelboy:
That's right bro. You can see the desperation and frustration

He uses his two accounts to reply himself and console himself.

If he thinks there's a group better than the JWs, he should present them and let's examine their practices. I do not like all these coward moves.

If you reason with him well, you would see that he doesn't take God nor the Bible serious. And that's typical of a disfellowshipped JW haha

So are you ready for the challenge?

CEV: "Put everything to the test. Accept what is good" - 1 Thess 5:21

MaxInDHouse:
Confirmed!

So your own version have WEREY?