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Let me add this!

Sinless regards to Jesus is that Jesus was not Born with that NATURE that exposed us to SIN.

We're all born with that SINFUL NATURE not that WE ARE ALREADY COMMITTED ANY SIN, so when Jesus faced many things that we also faced His Nature didn't ALLOW HIM to yield to it unlike us that can easily succumb to it.

Sin is our action, feeling and emotion against God's standard.

Which ALL BABIES don't capable of.

In fact, Watchtower made it clear in explanation of that "How original sin can affect us" by saying "We also suffer the consequences of our own errors and those of others.—Ecclesiastes 8:9; James 3:2.

So the reason why Babies are destroyed in Noah's day, Sodom and Gomarrah e.t.c is the consequences of their parents errors as God says in Deu 5:9.

Or in another perspective, God knows caring for babies is a lot of task so Noah & Lot can't cater for thousand of babies at ones.

Aemmyjah:
Babies are innocent and completely innocent

So if you agree with this, then why are you contradicting yourself about SINLESS?

To be innocent is to be PURE, BLAMELESS, SPOTLESS.

You even add COMPLETELY INNOCENT.

They are naive and can't do anything as they don't have this self consciousness of themselves and others and environment.

Good! So why are they enemies of God when they can't break God's law?

They only suck and sleep and are totally dependant on others

Everyone knows this Mr

Are babies born perfect (sinless) or imperfect (sinners)

All human are born with A FRAIL NATURE (which many people called ORIGINAL SIN) which makes us to BREAK GOD'S LAWS.

Breaking God's laws makes us God's enemies in which BABIES don't have ability to do.

Do you understand?

Aemmyjah:
See this ode trying to put me in his shoes

The only ode here is the person invading question which shows how stupid he is.

Ok, lemme Bring it down to your small understanding

Are babies born perfect or sinners?
Yes or No?

I've answered your question,

I asked you another one, answer that first before you switch gear

Oponu

MaxInDHouse:
So what is the meaning of that statement?

This is how your own translation puts it "Look! I was born guilty of error, And my mother conceived me in sin."

And in explaining original sin, Watchtower asked this question, how does original sin affect us?

Here is the answer, "Adam and Eve passed on their sinful condition to all their descendants. This is similar to the way human parents pass on genetic defects. (Romans 5:12) Thus, all humans have been born “in sin,” meaning that we are born imperfect and inclined toward error. —Psalm 51:5; Ephesians 2:3.

Perhaps you need to meditate on the whole chapter of Psalms 51 to grasp that David was talking about his own sin so how does that relate to his conception if it has nothing to do with David being a sinner o?

No! David was talking about HIS CONCEPTION, babies in the womb don't know anything about God's laws talk less of breaking it and breaking God's laws make us His enemies.

The 3 pix attached from Watchtower is what I've been telling you people since yet arguing blindly when your own leaders said the same.


Bible study 101.

Aemmyjah:
My bad
Either you or achorladey said so

And you still put "ME" in it

Now my question

Are babies sinless? Yes or No?

I've answered that

MaxInDHouse:
So what sin did David commit in his mother's womb?

Olodo did David say he committed any sin IN THE WOMB?

He said "IN SIN I WAS CONCEIVED"

He didn't said "I COMMITTED SIN WHILE I WAS IN THE WOMB"

Aemmyjah:
Sin-less means without sin, perfect, pure, spotless.

Now that you agreed with this, this is also Watchtower understanding about THE DEFINITION OF INNOCENT.

Scripture says Babies are INNOCENT 1 Corin 14:20

According to Watchtower innocent means PURE, BLAMELESS e.t.c

ENGLISH Dictionary also defines INNOCENT as SINLESS.

You also agreed that BABIES ARE INNOCENT.

So is INNOCENT= SINLESS?

OR do you want to change your stand that Babies are not INNOCENT again?



He has rope himself.

Now, are babies sinless or not? Yes or No?

Babies are INNOCENT and since you agreed that to be sinless is to be PURE, SPOTLESS (BLAMELESS) then Yes! Babies are sinless.

MaxInDHouse:
Sinless means without sin.

So which sin do Babies commit?

David said even the babies inside their mother's wombs are SINNERS! Psalms 51:5

No! David only acknowledge his own conception NOT ALL BABIES.

All babies are sinners (ENEMIES of God)

You've been repeating this lie but no evidence from the scripture.

until God's laws are inculcated in them that's what makes them God's friends. Deuteronomy 6:6-7

And SIN is to break God's law, so how can babies sinned when GOD'S LAWS haven't been INCULCATED in them, talk less of BREAKING the Laws?

So when you read about an Israelite talking about their young ones being heritage from God know that it's because they have what it takes to make their children God's friends not that all babies are God's heritage otherwise they wouldn't have killed all babies in Amalek because that will be tantamount to destroying God's heritage!

All babies are INNOCENT.

That's why Bible admonished believers to be Like them.

And Jesus said such are the kingdom of God for.

So your leaders lied against Holy scripture, babies aren't God's enemies.

Aemmyjah:
He's desperate for the attention

I deliberately used the word INNOCENT to lead them on
They fell for it
Now they accuse you

Lying liar!

I've used that word INNOCENT as what Bible says before you even think of joining with COMPLETELY INNOCENT

Aemmyjah:
Were you not the one that quoted what the Bible said about babies of believers being sanctified?
You not only shoot yourself on the foot but all over your body

What merit does a baby build with God?

Provide where I said the @bold

cornelboy:
I don't know what you mean by spear lol

Then check your dictionary.

but God will not destroy the babies of his people

because the Babies are not His enemies again

We understand

It he were to destroy the world today only the wicked and their babies would perish.

Of course, we know where the narration is tending towards.

That doesn't change the fact that all babies are born sinners and hence they are God's enemies.

Reason you can't provide just single verse to support your claim.

All humans are born sinners and our lives start from baby.

No! Our lives start from embryo.

So babies no matter what they become in the future are sinners

We're not talking about WHAT THEY BECOME IN THE FUTURE.

Babies know no wrong or right says YOU.

Your deluded brother says Babies ARE COMPLETELY INNOCENT, so know the difference.

Aemmyjah:
Babies are SIN-LESS. Yes or No?

Answer my question first!

Why simple question is so hard for you people to answer?

Image123:
Are you ipob? Is anything wrong with ipob?

I'm not a member of IPOB but you know you don't rate IPOB as yourself.

Image123:
LoLz, ipob pastor inside Deeper life? 84 year old? No drama.

What brought IPOB here?

Do you mean someone can't just take decision that seems fit for them?

MaxInDHouse:
True Christians are supposed to be NEUTRAL as far as politics is concerned because our kingdom is no part of this world! John 18:36

But it is well!

But there is politics in Warwick house being played.

Aemmyjah:
No evidence

What does it mean to be sinless?

MaxInDHouse:
It cost you nothing to post it now that i'm asking because if it's your stupid clinching you will post it a million times.

Pressure till wa

But you already said it's your conclusion

So stop beating about the bush just post where God's organization said
"innocence is equal to sinless"

I have done that before.

Were you blind when I first posted it?

If you didn't see it that time what is the assurance that you'll see it now?

MaxInDHouse:
If you can't just repost it now then i'll conclude you're just lying!

It's your conclusion!

But the evidence is there.

Or were you blind when I posted it?

duro4chang:
A lawyer without good morals typical of headless mob. He should be punished

So how do you want people to react to such news by bringing it to a WhatsApp group?

Do you want them to start praising such action or to condemn it?

kabillionaire:
The father was right 100%

Did the father issue them certificate for being husband and wife?

Dreambeat:
Church wedding is the traditional marriage of the white man

But you can't be given certificate for traditional wedding which means Gov is the one that can pronounce man and woman as husband and wife by given you cert.

achorladey:
It was after reading again after you quoted him, his comments sink.

I no too put mind a first since I know his mumu and gibberish peddling no get rival.

You'll see how he will begin to jump from verse to verse just to confuse himself more on that

MaxInDHouse:
Please quote where WATCHTOWER explicitly say "innocence is equal to sinless"

That's all!

I've done that before!

Check previous post

MaxInDHouse:
I keep asking you to quote where i said innocence is equal to sinless but you're just arguing blindly!

I said you lied!

Innocent /= Sinless

Whereas Watchtower and Dictionary said it is.

Simple comprehension is lacking here

achorladey:
It was after reading again after you quoted him, his comments sink.

I no too put mind a first since I know his mumu and gibberish peddling no get rival.

You just kill it with that @underlined.

achorladey:
To be a learner in evil......( JaNosense aka Janosky et al., 2023)


Chai I was not reading closely at all.


That guy na confirm no get sense and Mumu peddling peddler. I expect nothing less when bought = use

You can imagine such statement against God just to defend those lying 8 old men in Warwick.

cornelboy:
If God wanted to destroy the world today, he wouldn't destroy my baby because I'm God's friends already. The baby is my property.

The color part is what I want you to know.

Not that Bible says Babies are God's enemies but just to massage the brainwashed followers egos of those gods in Warwick is the reason for all these.

The babies of the wicked will surely be destroyed together with their parents.

And your Babies who are Jehovah enemies will be spear

Double standard bullshit

It wouldn't matter whether those babies know their right from left.

Now you're talking which means it's not that babies are God's enemies but God visiting the iniquity of the parents on their children. DEU 5:9

All babies are indeed God's enemies right from birth including mine.
I was God's enemy right from birth

But your babies will be spear because their enmity is different from nonjws ones

We know the gist

MaxInDHouse:
So there's no need asking questions if you don't want explanation!

Explanation is different from twisting or peddling lies.

MaxInDHouse:
So babies are God's enemies whether you like it or not that's the truth!

The Bible already shut your mouth on that.

My point is, you lied that INNOCENT = sinless.

So Watchtower and Dictionary say you're a liar.

MaxInDHouse:
So when did i agree with you that innocence is equal to sinless?

So where did I say you agree with it?

Lying liar JWs.

MaxInDHouse:
It's you that's desperately rushing to conclusion JWs no get problem o!

If Jws doesn't have problem they won't be desperate to explain their lies.

All babies are God's enemies.

Provide the Bible verse

That's why we are striving to inculcate God's word in them so they can become God's friend.

Bible already told us that Babies are INNOCENT, God's Heritage and Rewards.

Do you understand now?

Even before you post it I already understood it.

So do you agree with God that Babies are INNOCENT?

Once these babies has been taught God's laws they will be blessed just as Jesus blessed those Israelites children {Mark 10:16}

You can see the lying mouth.

I said earlier that what makes people enemies of God is by breaking God's law.

Now in your delusion brain, you came back to eat your vomit.

Bible study 101!

don't forget that it's the baby of a gentile that Jesus wasn't willing to heal o {Matthew 15:21-28} Jesus later yielded to the woman's cry not because of the child but for her faith.

Story story story!

So if all babies are God's friends why did Jesus refuse to heal the child of that none Israelites?

The same Jesus says children are such the kingdom of God prepared for and to enter God's kingdom you must be ready to BE LIKE THEM. This alone is enough evidence that your gods lies against Babies.

Janosky:
See this Emusan wey no dey understand anything

At least I'm better than you in reasoning.

JWs have opened your eyes to see your own folly, that in the context of 2 kings 10:9, "INNOCENCE" does NOT apply to Psalms 51:5, David PROVEN that,& have vindicated JWs teaching.

Emusan LIAR exposed again

You're now denying your own publication

1 Peter 2:22
"who committed no sin, nor was any deceit found in His mouth;"

John 8:46
"Which one of you convicts Me of sin?"

Emusan,@ John 8:46, Jesus Christ is asking you a question.

Emusan LIAR, is Jesus Christ blameless & pure?

Jesus is blameless, pure and innocent.

Where in the Bible that Babies are God's enemies?

You will see how he won't answer this but beating about the bush on it

Emusan LIAR, Adam was TEACHABLE and RECEPTIVE to God's instructions & missed the garden of Eden?

Oh Adam isn't teachable? How was he able to name All the animals?

You're too dull JaNosense

Guy, you too dey Lie lie.

Bring the lie out

Paul warned Emusan to stop thinking like children.
.

Yes I agreed and the same Paul admonished you JaNosense to be INNOCENT like Babies to evil.

Are you saying Paul is telling you to be like God's enemies?

"Be infants in evil", meaning be a learner in practice of evil.

So you should be A LEANER IN EVIL.

You mean God through Paul was admonished people to be A LEARNER in EVIL

Whoever do you like this needs serious deliverance.

Emusan,Continue in your FOLLY DECEIVING YOURSELF.

Listen to Jehovah through Paul who told you to "BE A LEANER IN EVIL"

You will be well soon