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Jashub:
This thing will replace humans. Mark my words...

You people don't even know how superior human is.

That is why you always think what HUMAN designed and built will replace the same human one day.

Kingsempires:
this is the reason why i ask are you a Christian. What type of proof do you want mat 1 to give you that mary conceived Jesus by the holy Spirit

You see the reason why you should understand a discussion properly before jump into it.

Who is talking about Jesus miraculous conception?

We're talking about Jesus delivery, did Jesus pass through Mary vaginal or not?

Kingsempires:
men are you a Christian

I made a comment, you jumped in without know the genesis and I asked you a question, the next is to ask me if I'm a Christian, what does that have to do with the question I asked you?

Kingsempires:
Mat 1

So, Matt 1 actually proved that Mary delivered Jesus vaginally.

Kingsempires:
This question way you they ask me you no they read bible

Okay, quote the Bible verse for me!

Kingsempires:
What i am talking of is mary being perpetual virgin

Did Jesus pass through Mary womanhood?

Kingsempires:
Through eye witnesses

Through eye witnesses that Jesus didn't pass through the womanhood of Mary.

So who are the eye witnesses according to early church?

Ubenedictus:
The scripture doesn't claim to record everything that God did in salvation history. In fact scripture tells us it did NOT record everything. The certainly for this miraculous birth of Jesus is not found in scripture. It is attested to by the early church, this is why all ancient Churches agree that Mary is perpetually a virgin

But the scripture recorded the birth of Jesus and nothing was said about being miraculous.

If it's not recorded in the scripture, where did early church get such info from?

Boomark:
Read this carefully

If you read the op you see where he said that we only bear witness (testify) to Jesus and never bear witness (testify) to the Father (Jehovah).

This alone is a Testament that you're a chronicle liar.

In the thread that leads to this thread, my point then was that: "THEY DON'T WITNESS FOR JESUS CHRIST EVEN THEIR NAME SPEAKS VOLUME OF THAT, I ALSO WENT FURTHER TO SAY THEY CHANGED THEIR NAME FROM HERALD OF CHRIST PRESENCE TO HERALD OF Jehovah PRESENCE, WHAT FOR IF THEY ARE ACTUALLY WITNESSING FOR JESUS?"

You're the one who is trying to proof that WITNESSING FOR JEHOVAH IS ALSO WITNESS ABOUT JESUS in which no where in the scripture were you commanded to WITNESS for the Father rather the abundant evidences from the scripture show that, Jesus is the one EVERYONE (INCLUDING THE FATHER and HOLY SPIRIT) WITNESS ABOUT.

You didn't understand the POV in the first place but quick to throw YOUR ANTICHRIST rhetoric.

Boomark:
I have told you before to stop typing too many words.

That is how you people boycott the critical part of someone's post.

I addressed your post properly by leaving no part unaddressed.

So, if my post is too many it means the initial post is a little bit long either.

Now, ask your questions again. You can number them, make them bold and simple.

No! I can't repeat that because I spent quite number of time to address your post.

The post is still and not deleted, you can do that by going back

I created this thread to ask you questions and you failed to answer my second question with a yes or no.

Only a liar will read my post and say I didn't answer your question(s).

Where in the scripture were you commanded to WITNESS FOR THE FATHER?

Boomark:
What do you want me to reply? The picture below is where you said the point we need is in Jn 15:26 so we don't need to bring in Jn 14:26

You need to reply because I asked some questions as well which you need to answer by not properly reply the post shows you're not read.

Yes! John 15:26 is what we need because the discussion is centered on WITNESSING for Jesus, so even the blind can see that John 15:26 explicitly says The Holy will WITNESS ABOUT JESUS. So, bringing another verse that isn't about WITNESSING is a distraction.

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Matthew 28:19-20 HCSB‬
[19] Go, therefore, and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, [20] teaching them to observe everything I have commanded you. And remember, I am with you always, to the end of the age.”

One verse doctrine is an error. See another one from Jesus Christ. You cannot bear witness for Christ without teaching everything he has commanded and told the apostles. You must tell people what he told the disciples about the Father, his God who sent him. How can you know as a gentile that the Father sent him if the apostles didn't testify of it? From Acts to Revelatoion? Have you seen that your antichrist doctrine is a blunder.

The point you're still deny and can't bring a single verse to support apart from your exegesis is where PEOPLE WERE COMMADED TO BEAR WITNESS FOR JEHOVAH.

1. Yahweh bears witness of His Son
2. The Holy Spirit bears witness about Jesus
3. Jesus Himself told the disciples to BEAR WITNESS OF HIM not another person.
4. The disciples attested and actually WITNESS about Jesus not another person.

If it is by exegesis, everyone understand that, since both the Father and Son are One God!

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John 14:26 HCSB‬
[26] But the Counselor, the Holy Spirit — the Father will send Him in My name — will teach you all things and remind you of everything I have told you.

‭John 15:26-27 HCSB‬
[26] “When the Counselor comes, the One I will send to you from the Father — the Spirit of truth who proceeds from the Father — He will testify about Me. [27] You also will testify, because you have been with Me from the beginning.

You quoted Jn 15:26 and deceitfully left out Vs 27 just to maintain your lies and the doctrine of ANTICHRIST. Verse 27 says that the disciples will also testify about what Christ has told and commanded them from the beginning.

Verse 27 still support verse 26 it's about JESUS NOT ANOTHER PERSON.

I'm still waiting for you to provide the verse where you were commanded to WITNESS about The Father.

Your one verse scripture is not complete and that has let you into Antichrist. I have given you about 5 verses which includes you one verse. You should also tell us that the command Jesus gave in Matthew 28:19-20 is not proper or needed.

I didn't see any verse where it was written that WE SHOULD WITNESS ABOUT THE FATHER.

You're funny with your Antichrist saga.

I have told to you that the first witness Peter did was about Jehovah in Acts 2. Unless maybe you don't know who Jehovah God is.

So the updates still stands. It is Antichrist.

Just provide the verse where you were commanded to WITNESS FOR the Father.

Why is that hard for you to do?

Even your organization can't point to a single verse in the whole of the New Testament about JEHOVAH WITNESS rather it's from the Old Testament they can point to.

achorladey:
Whose witness is greater?

1. Witness of Jehovah about his son?

2. Witness of Jesus about his Jehovah?


You call people a liar simply because they don't dance to the tune of your points.

We accept human testimony, but God’s testimony is greater because it is the testimony of God, which he has given about his Son. Whoever believes in the Son of God accepts this testimony. Whoever does not believe God has made him out to be a liar, because they have not believed the testimony God has given about his Son. 11 And this is the testimony: God has given us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. 12 Whoever has the Son has life; whoever does not have the Son of God does not have life.

That is God witnessing or testifying about Jesus.

Now see how Jehovah's Witnesses tried to go around the reason they are Jehovah’s witnesses....



Bearing witness to Jehovah = Bearing witness to Jesus Christ

We all know in content and context that Acts 1:8 which is part of Jesus last words before returning to heaven says......

You Will Be Witnesses of Me”

The me here is Jesus Christ and since that Jesus is your master you either obey your master or disobey. All authority has been given to your master and he says be witnesses of me. While the Father says listen to whatever the master tell you because by means of him.... For all of God’s promises have been fulfilled in Christ with a resounding “Yes!” And through Christ, our “Amen” (which means “Yes”) ascends to God for his glory.

Funny enough, I didn't want us to reach this level reason why I just posted that John 15:26 which was boldly written who the HOLY SPIRIT WILL WITNESS ABOUT. Yet he saw a straight word from Jesus and still trying to spin the wheel with false accusations and lies.

You couldn't address my post properly and refuse to answer my questions.

I'm using this reply to redirect you to that post and do justice to it.

Boomark:
Updated again:

As we all have seen, Emusan refused to give a simple yes or no answer to question 2.

This was from my post "The mission of Holy Spirit is very clear, Teach, Remind, and WITNESS"

And while trying to use many words to confuse people

Only the person who is already confused will find my post confusing because I always try to analysis and articulate my post properly for easy understanding.

he said that we don't need what jesus said in Jn 14:28, about the Holy Spirit reminding the apostles everything that Jesus told them.

It's evident that you have been possessed with the spirit of lies.

Where did I say this?

So go back and reply my post properly.

Next time know how you engage someone on a public forum before you throw accusation.

Firstly, you never asked me question by mentioning or quoting my post.

Secondly, you didn't addressed my post properly but just thrown vague words.

Lastly, never leave ANY of my questions unanswered because that shows you don't want respond from me.

Boomark:
John 14:26 HCSB‬
[26] But the Counselor, the Holy Spirit — the Father will send Him in My name —will teach you all things and remind you of everything I have told you.

Here is what Jesus Christ said "When the Helper comes, whom I will send to you from the Father, that is the Spirit of truth who proceeds from the Father, He will testify about Me" - John 15:26

I don't know how John 14:26 negates the straight forward verse of John 15:26.

The point you still failed to raise is where THE APOSTLE WITNESS FOR JEHOVAH.

The mession of Holy Spirit is very clear, Teach, Remind, and WITNESS

For you to continue holding unto your antichrist belief

Which Antichrist belief are you talking about here?

you said that Jn 14:26 is a lie and that i am arguing with Jesus Christ as seen in the picture below.

Where did I say John 14:26 is a lie?
Oya provide the place...

False accusation.

Why is it so easy for you Jws to lie against people when you can't even comprehend the POV in the first place?

So answer these questions accordingly.

1. Is John 14:26 which I quoted not the direct word of Jesus Christ?

Yes! It's Jesus Christ direct word.

Now my questions:
Is John 15:26 I quoted also not direct word of Jesus Christ?

Which is more precise with WITNESSING FOR JESUS, John 14:26 or John 15:26?

2. Did the Holy Spirit [b]testify about Jesus, Jn 15:26, without reminding the disciples of everything Jesus told them according to Jn 14:26?

Please give a simple yes or no answer to 1 and 2.

The Holy Spirit did everything Jesus said.

WITNESSING FOR JESUS was precisely MENTIONED by Jesus.

I don't know why you bring John 14:26 into this when John 15:26 is actually the point we need.

If you can't answer yes or no to 1 and 2, also number them and give SHORT reason why you can't. Don't go and start typing long messages just to deceive people.

Who did Jesus say Holy Spirit will WITNESS FOR?

Who did Jesus say after disciples receiving the Holy Spirit they will WITNESS FOR?

Where did any APOSTLE witness for Jehovah?

If you can answer these questions, then we will know who is going against the scripture.

I want to show the world that this is really antichrist, coupled with lack of understanding of English.

To say the Holy Spirit WITNESS FOR JESUS which is the direct word from Jesus and that the apostles witness for Jesus which is also back by scripture is what you called ANTICHRIST.

Boomark:
Update:

Since Emusan has refused to give a simple yes or no answer to my question, it is evident that what he was teaching base on just one single verse is ANTICHRIST as seen in the original post. Those who hold into such belief should throw it away.

Where did you ask me question in the first place?

MaxInDHouse:
If you don't know the answer then keep your question to yourself!

Shameless liar

1. Are you a Christian?
2. Are you a JWs?
3. Are you a Christian and JWs?

Well, you've already proved your own lie of ONE LINE OF THOUGHT here by saying "I will say it anywhere except to teach among Jehovah's Witnesses because the GB hasn't approved it that's my own personal research."

Your gods already said THEY ARE CHRISTIAN

MaxInDHouse:
I will never ever answer the same group name with faithless people so just call me:
"Maximus one of Jehovah's Witnesses"

Then answer the simple question:

Are you a Christian?

MaxInDHouse:
I will say it anywhere except to teach among Jehovah's Witnesses because the GB hasn't approved it that's my own personal research.

If you're claiming Christian yet rejecting Jesus' counsel regarding how Christianity should be then you're just deceiving yourself BASTARDIZING the group name!

Now it's your turn!

Boomark:
Whatever he is doesn't matter. He is alone and not a Jehovah's witness or maybe an ignorant witness. Jehovah's witnesses will reject him if they see what he is saying..

You can go to any Jehovah's witness offline and ask them if they are Christians. They make use of Christian greek scripture as seem on the last page of Malachi in NWT. They are Christians.

This guy is just on his own. Wondering about like a sheep without shepherd.

The question: Are you a Christian?

This is the answer from Watchtower.…..

See attached screenshot

Boomark:
Emusan and co, I want to tell you guys that this guy might be an agent of darkness using Jehovah's witness to cause chaos.

No Jehovah's witness will say all these nonsense about Christians. Jehovah's witness call their new testament Christian greek scriptures. With that, they can't say all these nonsense.

He can't engage me because he will run away as usual.

I'm glad you can hear from the horse mouth.

The funny thing is, ask him if he is a Christian or not?

Boomark:
Yes to which question?

Anyway you should have asked him what he has to say about the endorsement of Christians from New World Translation which I posted.

As you can see despite his derogatory words about the name 'Christian'. If you ask him The simple question: Are you a Christian?

He won't give a straight forward answer.

achorladey:
Looool

You see the drama so

MaxInDHouse:
Who is my brother? Matthew 12:46-50

Is he one of Jehovah's Witnesses learning with the WATCHTOWER?

Yes! He is ONE OF JEHOVAH Witnesses.

Engage him and see for yourself

When ONE LINE OF THOUGHT is drag into mud

I know he is not one of those who will asslick you but face the truth.

MaxInDHouse:
You are not but claiming that's why i will not sit on the same bench with you so call me whatever you want, i know my brothers in the faith!

Your brother has answered you HERE

Cowards he doesn't have mind to say capital YES boldly

achorladey
Courz
Johnw74
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MaxInDHouse:
YES!
The group name "CHRISTIANS" has been CURSED and BASTARDIZED that's why you can't mention the name of your church as your so called PASTORS are condemning their fellow believers in their teachings even though they're all claiming "CHRISTIANS"

JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES will speak with one voice to condemn the blunder of a backslider not teachings that binds us together as one.

So if you find anyone speaking against what we teach ask him to mention the name of his church and see him or her silenced.


WHY?

There is no church with a unique teaching that members can be proud of except Jehovah's Witnesses!

So what happens to others claiming Christians?

They have brought a CURSE onto that name "CHRISTIANS" due to the contradictions among them such can't exist among God's own people that's why the true God gave us a group name that unites all His true worshipers:

JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES! Isaiah 65:15

No matter how pained you can be that's the undeniable truth!

So are you a Christian?

Boomark:
No. I don't agree with of the last part concerning "witness of Jehovah."

The person who opened this thread is Jws and he has been promoting such heretic teaching.

He is know for badmouthing the name CHRISTIAN even when Watchtower dare not to.

Screenshots below speak more about the issue.

Then you can understand the reason for this thread.

What do you have to say?
Or you can ask him if he is also a Christian with evidence below.

NOTE: The BASTARDIZED and CURSED old group name is the name CHRISTIAN

Ubenedictus:
It is also not logical to believe that a virgin gave birth...

Yes! It's not logical and that's why the scripture says it's a miracle.

But did scripture say it's a miracle that Mary gave birth without the baby passed through her womanhood?

I'm sure the illogicality of that didn't stop you from believing it

If it's based on just logic I won't believe it but I believe it because it is attributed to miracle.

Boomark:
True Christianns are Jehovah's witnesses.

That's nice!

Do you agree with statement "So just as some worshipers of God in ancient times turned their backs on pure worship a Christian too may turn back from following the Way of holiness but a Witness of Jehovah will never ever turn back no matter what happens!"

Those who don't witness for both Jehovah God and the Son Jesus are antichrist, 1 Jn 2:22-23

I am not talking about a church named Jehovah's witnesses or a church named Christian.

Okay

Boomark:
There is nothing brilliant about this if you don't know what they are actually witnessing about Christ.

In you own view after reading the OP, is there any differences between Christian and Jehovah Witness?

Boomark:
I still wonder if you people really read your bible or you just read and depends on only bulletins and what your preachers teach you.

Yes we do and that is why we are different from you who read and rely on Watchtower and Awake.

I will show you how your lack of knowledge of the truth has made you and your friends to preach the doctrine of antichrist.

After injecting your own words without a single verse where anyone claimed to WITNESS for Jehovah

We know who holds the doctrine of Antichrist and that is the person who DENY JESUS of:

1. Worship
2. Praises
3. Prayer e.t.c

‭John 14:26 HCSB‬
[26] But the Counselor, the Holy Spirit — the Father will send Him in My name — will teach you all things and remind you of everything I have told you.

Take note, the Holy Spirit will remind them everything that Christ told them about Jehovah his Father. That is, His witnesses for Jehovah and more
This alone has destroyed your point and belief that the Holy Spirit will bear witness to Christ alone and not His Father.

You're arguing against Jesus Himself with your lie.

Here is what Jesus Christ said "When the Helper comes, whom I will send to you from the Father, that is the Spirit of truth who proceeds from the Father, He will testify about Me" - John 15:26

You can see direct statement on WHO THE HOLY SPIRIT WILL WITNESS FOR.

Now what are those everything Christ said which the Holy Spirit will remind them? They are plenty but here are some of them.

# Jesus Christ bore witness that the Father sent him. To do the will of God alone.
# He bore witness he does exactly all that the father commanded him, Jn 14:31.
# He bore witness that he is the servant of God, Isa 42:1-5, Mt 12:16-21.
# He bore witness that God the Father his God is the only true God, Jn 17:3, Jn 20:17. His disciples remembered it in Eph 1:17, 1 Peter 1:3.
# He bore witness that the Father is greater than him, Jn 14:28, 2 Corinthians 11:3.
# That everything is from God and God reconcile us back to Himself through Jesus Christ, 2 Corinthians 5:18-21.
# For, There is one God and one Mediator who can reconcile God and humanity—the man Christ Jesus. 1 Timothy 2:5
# Etc.

‭John 17:3 HCSB‬
[3] This is eternal life: that they may know You, the only true God, and the One You have sent — Jesus Christ.

If you don't know God and also Jesus Christ whom he sent, you are going nowhere.

And you are anti-christ if you refuse to accept the things that Jesus Christ said, because all he said about his God is the will of God and true.

‭1 John 2:22-23 HCSB‬
[22] Who is the liar, if not the one who denies that Jesus is the Messiah? This one is the antichrist: the one who denies the Father and the Son. [23] No one who denies the Son can have the Father; he who confesses the Son has the Father as well.

The first thing Peter did through the power of the Holy Spirit on Pentecost day was to bear witness to Jehovah God. He told the people about the will of God according to Joel, before telling them how God used Jesus Christ to achieve that purpose.

‭Acts 2:14-22 HCSB‬
[14] But Peter stood up with the Eleven, raised his voice, and proclaimed to them: “Men of Judah and all you residents of Jerusalem, let me explain this to you and pay attention to my words. [15] For these people are not drunk, as you suppose, since it’s only nine in the morning. [16] On the contrary, this is what was spoken through the prophet Joel: [17] And it will be in the last days, says God, that I will pour out My Spirit on all humanity; then your sons and your daughters will prophesy, your young men will see visions, and your old men will dream dreams. [18] I will even pour out My Spirit on My male and female slaves in those days, and they will prophesy. [19] I will display wonders in the heaven above and signs on the earth below: blood and fire and a cloud of smoke. [20] The sun will be turned to darkness and the moon to blood before the great and remarkable Day of the Lord comes. [21] Then everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.

Then after this, from Acts 2:22-36, you see practical example of what it means to witness for Christ. It means bearing witness to Jehovah through Christ Jesus. It is about telling people what God used Jesus Christ to do. With that, all the glory will returns to the Father.

Act 2:22-36 Read through front your bible.
Vs 22, God endorsed Jesus and did many miracles through him.
Vs 23, All that happened to Jesus was God's plan.
...Vs 33, Jesus received the Holy Spirit from the Father.
Vs 36, God made him Lord and Messiah.

As you can see, you must return all glory to the Father while preaching Christ. If not, whatever you are doing is not endorsed by Christ nor the Holy Spirit of God but antichrist.

‭1 Peter 4:11 HCSB‬
[11] If anyone speaks, it should be as one who speaks God’s words; if anyone serves, it should be from the strength God provides, so that God may be glorified through Jesus Christ in everything. To Him belong the glory and the power forever and ever. Amen.

Like I told you before, everything is about God through Jesus Christ. Leaving God out of the witnessing about Christ is antichrist. These things are everywhere but I know that the antichrist doctrine of Trinity is why people won't see it. I will deal with Trinity soon.

People in Matthew 7:21-23 thought it is by doing signs and wonders in his name, prophecying in his name that they will gain eternal life but he rejected them and told them that if it i not the will of God, it is nothing. Christ made know the will of God to us and that is what everyone must pursue.

All these are your own pure addition.

I'm expect you to provide a verse where it says something like "You shall bear WITNESS for Jehovah"

You don't know more than Jesus who says all these: “When the Helper comes, whom I will send to you from the Father, that is the Spirit of truth who proceeds from the Father, He will testify about Me" - John 15:26

And the direct command issued in Acts 1:8 "but you will receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you; and you shall be My witnesses both in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and even to the remotest part of the earth.”

Reason why the disciples can also say "Therefore it is necessary that of the men who have accompanied us all the time that the Lord Jesus went in and out among us— beginning with the baptism of John until the day that He was taken up from us—one of these must become a witness with us of His resurrection.”

Or the instruction to Paul "But on the night immediately following, the Lord stood at his side and said, “Take courage; for as you have solemnly witnessed to My cause at Jerusalem, so you must witness at Rome also.”

Well, since Jesus is God Almighty we don't have problem with the Father witness.

So, if you're serious and not Antichrist come out boldly and change your name to JESUS WITNESS.

Only an Antichrist disguise as true follower of Christ will change name from HERALD OF CHRIST to another thing and still be claiming with other side of the mouth that they BELONG TO CHRIST.

Prosper1912:
That emusan nor get brain.

You didn't address my post but the next thing is to start abusing!

Well, I know your type.

Prosper1912:
U ask me to prove how it was 1914 still u were saying is 1913 and I have done the calculation for u.

Where did I ask YOU to prove how it was 1914?

NOW THAT I BROUGHT THE SAME ChatGPT to you, you went cold