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achorladey:
TRINITARIANS have the truth and fear will not allow you admit it in your kingdom halls that they do in order to avoid being thrown out. .

By their cunning life they must bow and agree to that effect to the glory of God the Father.

Michael547:
You have agreed that not all Trinitarians agree with your TRUTH AS WELL😂😂😂

Where did I claim MY TRUTH?

Jesus is The TRUTH HIMSELF.

I'm just so glad that you AGREED TRINITARIAN HAVE THE TRUTH.

PRAISE JESUS!

Michael547:
He has hooked

He thought every Trinitarian agreed with him now his eyes have opened

I love that!

I never thought even your deluded brother maxindhouse always shout it here.

It ball it's now in your court.

You have agreed that Trinitarian have the TRUTH AS WELL

Michael547:
So not every Trinitarian agrees with Mr Emusan

I love that!

Even your gods in Warwick knows Trinitarian don't agreed among themselves.

He has hooked

He mistakenly AGREED THAT TRINITARIAN HAS THE TRUTH now the eyes have opened.

I love that!

MaxInDHouse:

So your lie that only Watchtower holds the Truth was bursted by your brother and you're even happy

O ma oooo

Michael547:
Lol...yeah the truth that Michael is Jesus.

So not only Watchtower hold the Truth!

I love that!

achorladey:


The same set of people that said the name Christian is cursed by God and bastardised. That anybody that bears the name Christian does not belong to Jesus Christ and must think twice.

MaxInDHouse are you contradicting yourself why still alive?


cc: Emusan

When you fight the truth you won't know when you will start to fight yourself.

As usual, a shameless lying liar Maxindhouse will not stop being shameless.

MaxInDHouse:
In the year 1914 God gave Jesus the scepter!

And you are in attendant

Michael547:
Do you agree with Trinitarians who say that Michael is Jesus?

Now going back and forth.....

Michael547:
Oga go and convince your fellow Trinitarians that Michael is not Jesus.

At least Trinitarians have the TRUTH THEN!

Michael547:
Lol....are you not funny....what do you mean that If they see themselves as one?
Do you see yourself as one with them?

So if the Seventh day Adventist are true Christians irrespective of their interpretation of Daniel 10:13, then why are you bothered about my view of that verse?

I didn't quote you because of Daniel 10:13.

You made a statement which I want you to SUPPORT WITH GOD'S WORD instead you brought forth Geneva Study Bible and Matthew Poole's as your STRONG SUPPORT.

You claimed Cheif Prince is different from Archangel

Reason why I asked, what is the meaning of ARCHANGEL?

You claimed Jesus is the ONLY ONE EVER CALLED ARCHANGEL in the New Testament

I then asked you to provide the VERSE where this was stated.

Instead, you started your kangaroo post by jumping from Pilar to Post dodging the questions

At the end, you CONCLUDED I have problem with your view about Daniel 10:13.

Even with your cited Dan 10:13 is you that want to force Geneva Study Bible and Matthew Poole's commentary on people just because it simply aligned with your view when in reality not that you take Gevena Bible and Matthew Poole's as those HAVING THE TRUTH.

Michael547:
Go and ask your fellow Trinitarians those questions. I won't answer them.

But no Trinitarian ever said Jesus is the only one ever CALLED ARCHANGEL MICHAEL IN THE NEW TESTAMENT.

You did and to provide the verse from New Testament is now hard for you

Michael547:
Oga are Seventh day Adventist true Christians?
Yes or no?

Yes! If they see themselves as ONE.

So Oga, are Seventh Day Advent TRUE CHRISTIAN since they believe Jesus is Angel Michael?

Michael547:
Oga don't ask me questions.....

You're very dull for this.
You type your rubbish and ask questions but telling others not to do the same.

ask your fellow Trinitarians.

I already did

Why are you also drifting from the question of who has Authority/interpretation of scriptures today?

See this one, I'm always drifting but you are the very person who has not answer these questions since the beginning of this discussion.

1. What is the meaning of ARCHANGEL?
2. Where in the New Testament Jesus was ONLY CALLED ARCHANGEL MICHAEL? As you earlier said on this thread.

Since I asked these questions, the thread has added more than 2 pages.

So who is drifting from question between you and I?

Michael547:
Oga the Seventh day Adventist members today believe that Michael is Jesus and they hold the Trinity doctrine. Go and convince them.

I'm glad,

So, Seventh Day Adventist who produced Russell got it RIGHT and Jesus didn't choose them but the people Jesus chosen were still confused and teaching flip-flops about the identity of the person who choose them

Well, did SDA tell you they are student of Geneva study Bible and Matthew Poole's?

Michael547:
Oga so who has authority/interpretation today? Who should we listen to?

Now using style to drift away from the earlier points.

Do you agree that you lied that "Jesus was called ARCHANGEL Michael ONLY IN THE NEW TESTAMENT"?

Michael547:
So who has authority of interpretation today? Is it you?

COMMENTARY

INTERPRETATION

Are common words you can find their meaning in dictionary, and if you don't have one Google is very much available.

If anyone has AUTHORITY over it Watchtower won't exist today not to talk of you believing lies.

Michael547:
Alright....sorry they are dead....but their teaches and views are held by many people today who believe in the Trinity.

Good that means not only Watchtower holds the Truth.

Do you agree?

So please go and convince your fellow Trinitarians first.

Give me the address of those who still believe their teaching first, at least we can verify if they still hold unto the same teaching today.

Michael547:
If the commentaries are not authority, are you now the authority?

You read the word COMMENTARY and you are calling it AUTHORITY.

Did you read it from their books they are passing AUTHORITY?

Well, if you think it's AUTHORITY then the same authority has bind you for every page of their books.

Michael547:
You are wasting your time with me. Go and convince your fellow Trinitarians first

Just as you're wasting your time telling me to go and convince them.

Where are they today?

You have their address?

The people you're talking about are ALL LONG DEAD before even C.T Russell was born.

Rather, I'll tell you to go and ask them if their view is still the same today.

Michael547:
Oga below is commentaries from Geneva Study Bible and Matthew Poole's commentary saying that Jesus is Michael in the bible. They both believe in the Trinity. They are not JWs. So why una still dey mention JW?

Did Geneva Study Bible and Matthew Poole's tell you they are SPEAKING FOR THE WHOLE TRINITARIANS?

Even those your screenshots were COMMENTARIES not AUTHORITY and if they are around today, their might have changed.

So, why do you want to force their COMMENTARIES on ALL TRINITARIANS as if THEY ARE THE ONLY ONE WHO MADE COMMENTARY for the whole Bible?

You people are the same person who will claim WE DON'T AGREE AMONG OURSELVES but here you are you want to change narration that robs oil in your palms.

Michael547:
Oga leave me and JWs out of this.....go and meet your fellow Trinitarians who says that Michael is Jesus.

I can't leave you and Jws out of this even though I never involve Jws in the first place.

My simple questions which you failed to addressed since are for YOU not Jws.

So I don't know why you want me to go and meet fellow Trinitarians who says Jesus is Michael rather than YOU provide the answer from the scripture you used earlier.

1. What is the meaning of ARCHANGEL?
2. Where in the New Testament Jesus was CALLED ONLY ARCHANGEL?

These are questions from the scripture and not from any one...

When you are done convincing them, we can now have a discussion.

I don't need to convince them.

Consider this scenario, Geneva Study Bible and Matthew Poole's have been done since 1500's & 1600's but at around 1900's Watchtower was teaching that ARCHANGEL Michael is the Pope.

Now, imagine Jws been confronted with Geneva Study Bible and Matthew Poole's where they teach that Jesus is the ARCHANGEL Michael.

Jws would call them all sort of imprinted names flipping different pages of Watchtower and cherry pick Bible verses to show Geneva Study Bible and Matthew Poole's were wrong and they are the one who hold the TRUTH.

Today, if those Jws could come back to life and their fellow Jws now using the same Geneva Study Bible and Matthew Poole's to support their claim that Jesus was truly the ARCHANGEL Michael, I'm such they'll look stupid and more confused (even in usual sense that is what they always look like)

So, using the materials of those you once called/currently call all sort of imprinted names when you still believe that THEY HOLD NO TRUTH should be your great concerns.

MaxInDHouse:
OK nah!

You yourself testified to that!

MaxInDHouse:
Jesus has one line of thought with his father {John 10:30} and prayed for all his disciples to have the same line of thought with himself and his Father! John 17:22

But on what goal does Jesus share the same line of thought with his father?

He himself explained that it's based on the ASSIGNMENT given to him {John 8:28} but on other things Jesus differs in thinking from his father that's why he could tell his father in prayer:

“Abba, Father, all things are possible for you; remove this cup from me. Yet, not what I want, but what you want.” Mark 14:36

From the above scripture it's clear that they are not always on the same line of thought but regarding the assignment binding them together which is the salvation of mankind Jesus is ever ready to submit to whatever his father decides.

So the same is what i always tell you people that when it comes to the channel that should direct the work we are doing in connection with Jehovah and his son Jesus Christ all of us have the same line of thought that it's the Governing Body we are to follow in doing that work! Hebrews 13:7

Do you understand me now?

Your nonsense line of thought had being proven to be nonexistent.

If you like define and redefine 100 times, your father the Devil do more than and he still failed.

Aemmyjah:
Michael547 asked you a question
You dodged it

So you were blind that you didn't see I first dodged my own question.

I asked you another question since you say having the same line of thought is a delusion

Lack of simple comprehension, go back to my post read slowly, either my post says having the same line of thought means DELUSION or the lies of ONE LINE OF THOUGHT you people parade here is nonexistent.

I understand that some illustrations are too much for people to understand despite the age. Kpele

Says the lack of home training boy who lack simple comprehension yet be claiming to be vast in science

Michael547:
So why are you not agreeing with Geneva Study Bible and Matthew Poole's commentary na on daniel 10:13.....are they not your people again?

You're doing this just to dodge my questions but I will keep bringing them up for you.

1. What is the meaning of ARCHANGEL?

2. Where in the New Testament was it stated that Jesus is the ONLY ARCHANGEL?

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Why are you afraid of using God's word to support your claim INSTEAD of holding to a commentaries something you can't even share among your hall people?

Like I pointed above, not that you believe both people behind Geneva Bible and Matthew Poole's commentary HAVE THE TRUTH NOR CURRENTLY AMONG THOSE RULING WITH CHRIST IN HEAVEN.

For instance, both Geneva Bible and Matthew already say Jesus is Michael (according to your cherry pick part) more than 100 years yet Watchtower that claim Jesus came in 1914 and has chosen them were still confused on the identity of who MICHAEL IS?

From being Pope to this back to pope to that blablabla....

Aemmyjah:
If you give your students a mathematical test and they all give you the same correct answers, acting the tests
You'll say they're excellent or delusional?

Another nonsense comparison.

You don't know the right analogy to use.

achorladey:
What is the difference between the trust use here....



and



cc: Emusan, FxMasterz, Oteneaaron, Courz, MightySparrow

I don't understand. Please help!!!!!

One line of thought is a delusion even the confused maxmumu himself knows that, he was just keep repeating that line to stay afloat.

achorladey:
What is the difference between the trust use here....



and



cc: Emusan, FxMasterz, Oteneaaron, Courz, MightySparrow

I don't understand. Please help!!!!!

They can sugarcoat and twist anything.

Michael547:
Oga you first quoted me.....

This line is stale already.

I was talking to Kingsempires and not you.

Did kingsempires first quoted you or ask you to talk to him?

Cut the crab Mr.

You lied about God and His word, you were asked to support your lie with scripture you begin to tell stories instead of you to be happy to show everyone WHERE GOD'S SHOW JESUS WAS THE ONLY DIRECTLY CALLED ARCHANGEL IN THE NEW TESTAMENT.

Oga it is not my fault that your fellow Trinitarians, GENEVA STUDY BIBLE and MATTHEW POOLE'S agree that Michael is Jesus in Daniel 10:13.

They are not God's word.

That you saw a part of their work that dance to your tune or agreeing with your lie doesn't mean you agreed they are actually PART OF 144,000 ruling with Jesus Christ in heaven now or they TEACH THE TRUTH.

No matter how many times you repost those cherry pick screenshot, it will always show your hypocrisy!

I thought you said all other churches are right apart from the JWs?

Yes! because you jws claimed other churches are wrong and only you are right!

Or do you believe another is right apart from jws?

Go and meet your people.

You don't need to tell me, I'm always with my people.

Or did complain to you?

FxMasterz:
New Light automatically makes the previous lights Past Darkness. This means the previous members who died with that previous light actually died in darkness. There's no guarantee that the current gullible ones won't die in darkness as the New Lights of today could become past darkness tomorrow after they're long dead. JW members are in trouble.

Jehovah Knows best and therefore does not misguide His people. If the GBs are claiming to be hearing directly from Jehovah through His Spirit, and what they hear today turns to past darkness tomorrow, then, they're not hearing from the true Jehovah.

That is the very simple way to understand it unless you're a jws.

Look at this scenario:

Inspired = from God = trustworthy
The Apostles were inspired = no error in their writings
Bible is inspired = no error and we can trust in it completely

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GB were inspired = they can make error in doctrine and teaching
Watchtower and Awake were a product of GB inspiration = Contain errors and wrong teachings
GB provides spiritual food in due season = you must swallow every mole we dish.

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In the above, the 1st - two obviously negate each other but see how they want the 3rd one agrees/matches with each other.

FxMasterz:
While they enforced this trust on the gullible members, they taught them many UNTRUTHS which many of the gullible folks have died with since the inception of the cult, only for the cult to make a U-turn and bring a supposed NEW LIGHT without any remorse or apology for the previous falsehoods.

That question will continue to cause severe and eternal pains in their heart.

because they can't boldly answer, Yes/No! But will quickly say, "well, Jehovah knows the best"

So, if Jehovah knows the best, why changing from the Darkness doctrine to New Light in the first place?

If the fate of those who died in your false light is not known, how are you sure you know what will happen to those who are not Jws as well? because there's no different between the two.

So much on that but only a few can reason towards that angle.