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Christianity EtcRe: Why Don’t Jw Fathers Sit For Their Daughter Who Gets Married To Non Witness? by Emusan(m): 2:24pm On Apr 28, 2024
Aemmyjah:
I'll create a new thread and acknowledge you and publicly say I'm a liar if you show us where 30 people were shot
Nobody sends you that.

Your deluded brother said I should bring the evidence where 30 people died.

Which you rush to support because two of you lack simple comprehension and lover of lies.

You even rush to post a screenshot for the meaning of the word 'GUN DOWN' to proof you're right.

Now, did I claim 30 people died by saying 30 persons were gun down?
Christianity EtcRe: Why Don’t Jw Fathers Sit For Their Daughter Who Gets Married To Non Witness? by Emusan(m): 2:09pm On Apr 28, 2024
Aemmyjah:
Are you a liar
If not, back up your claim even if na fake news website, that 30 people were shot
First of all admit your lies and lack of simple comprehension.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Don’t Jw Fathers Sit For Their Daughter Who Gets Married To Non Witness? by Emusan(m): 2:06pm On Apr 28, 2024
Aemmyjah:
Boy
Show where 30 people were shot or killed or anything
ElderElse

You didn't address my post cheesy grin cheesy grin
Christianity EtcRe: Why Don’t Jw Fathers Sit For Their Daughter Who Gets Married To Non Witness? by Emusan(m): 2:01pm On Apr 28, 2024
Aemmyjah:
If you think I'll ever support you over my brother, you're really fooling yourself
Deluded brother don't forget

Besides, who is begging for your support in the first place?

So, showing you people your lies and lack of comprehension is seeking for your support cheesy grin cheesy grin grin

Show us the source of where 30 people were 'gunned down' or remain a miserable,envious ,little lying boy
You know I didn't say 30 people died as against your deluded brother lie and lack of comprehension.

So, how many people were gun down by exjws? cheesy grin cheesy grin
Christianity EtcRe: Why Don’t Jw Fathers Sit For Their Daughter Who Gets Married To Non Witness? by Emusan(m): 1:50pm On Apr 28, 2024
Aemmyjah:
I did that
Rest boy
cheesy grin cheesy grin grin

So, you agree that your deluded brother lied and lack simple comprehension cheesy grin cheesy grin
Christianity EtcRe: Why Don’t Jw Fathers Sit For Their Daughter Who Gets Married To Non Witness? by Emusan(m): 1:24pm On Apr 28, 2024
Aemmyjah:
We respect the authorities
They took acknowledge us
We don't insult them
Protest against them
Use hate speech against them or abuse currency

Paul did not fight wars but when he heard that opposers were planning to kill him on the road as they even swore not to eat or drink as he traveled to making an appeal, they sent some soldiers to guard him

You're just too unreasonable
You didn't address your screenshot. Why?

Leave this part first.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Don’t Jw Fathers Sit For Their Daughter Who Gets Married To Non Witness? by Emusan(m): 1:07pm On Apr 28, 2024
Aemmyjah:
quote
This is the reason why you're doing research you compare different sources before drawing your conclusion.


You people are just too intellectual lazy.

Below is the meaning from another dictionary.

Anyway, don't forget also that Watchtower has to appreciate THE POLICE OFFICERS with GUN who came to their rescue before the exjws shot himself.

Christianity EtcRe: My Spiritual Fervency Is Affecting My Secular Interests: How Do I Find Balance? by Emusan(m):
Michael547:
Watchtower never said that spirit don't leave the body when a person dies.
Watchtower said NOTHING SURVIVED after man's death.

But it's evident that SPIRIT RETURNED TO GOD.

That is false teaching.

We have said that the spirit in man is the same as 'the breath of life' in Genesis 2:7. The spirit is not the person as shown in Psalms 146:4 in the screenshot below.
Pure lie!

Breath of life is not THE SPIRIT IN MAN

Psalm 146:4 you quoted never said SPIRIT isn't person.

In fact, going by your own acceptance of Eccl 12:7, it means Psalm 146:4 is contradiction.

This shows that, Breath of Life goes down but The SPIRIT OF MAN GOES BACK TO GOD WHO GAVE IT.

Where does Job 32:8 shows that the spirit in man is different from the breath of God in that same verse?
It's there, check your usual Biblehub for the interlinear and see two different words were used.

The SPIRIT IS DIFFERENTIATED from the Breath of life.
"But there is a spirit[a] within people, the breath of the Almighty within them, that makes them intelligent." - Job 32:8

Also, 1 Cor 2:11 shows that the SPIRIT OF MAN has ability to KNOW. Only a person can do that.

You are a liar. You've said here that spirit and soul that goes to hell don't 'need' to go to God 'in heaven' before going to hell fire. And I have asked you where you got that interpretation from?
You see why I do say you people lack simple comprehension.

You said I'm a liar but it's evident that you're the liar here.

This was your previous statement "So Why are you saying that some spirit and soul do not RETURN to God 'in heaven' before going to hell fire?

Compare this with your statement above, which shows you deliberately lied against me.

I was the one who cited Eccl 12:7, so why will you lie that I said some Spirit and Soul DO NOT RETURN TO GOD?

You are a fraud to say that versions that uses spirit in Ecclesiastics 3:19 is wrong. What is the Hebrew word for spirit? Explain why different versions use spirit and breath in Psalms 146:4 in the screenshot below?
It's like you just learn that word FRAUD.

Did I say they are wrong?

I said THE BEST RENDITION would have been 'BREATH' for people like who mistaken it for SPIRIT OF MAN L, and I went further to provide a translation that used 'BREATH'.

Definitely you're lost on this subject matter!
Christianity EtcRe: My Spiritual Fervency Is Affecting My Secular Interests: How Do I Find Balance? by Emusan(m): 12:28pm On Apr 28, 2024
Michael547:
😁😁😁.....I agree that all 'spirit' of good and bad people returns to God who lives 'in heaven' as Ecclesiastics 12:7 shows.
Now, it's established that SOMETHING ACTUALLY SURVIVED after man's death!

So, why do you agree with watchtower that claimed nothing survived man after death?

Oya answer my questions before we proceed.

So Why are you saying that some spirit and soul do not return to God 'in heaven' before going to hell fire?
I never said that, stop lying.

I said THE SPIRIT RETURNED TO GOD.

Which other bible verse shows that God created man and put 'His Spirit' in man that is different from the 'breath of life' in Genesis 2:7?
Job 32:8

If you say the spirit of man and Animal is different, explain Ecclesiastics 3:19 in the screenshot below?
Eccl 3:19 is about BREATH both in Man and Animals.

Even though some translations used SPIRIT but the best rendition would be BREATH.

"For people and animals share the same fate—both breathe[a] and both must die. So people have no real advantage over the animals. How meaningless!"
Christianity EtcRe: My Spiritual Fervency Is Affecting My Secular Interests: How Do I Find Balance? by Emusan(m): 11:42am On Apr 28, 2024
Address this point first before you continue with your post.

Now, that means both the evil and righteous people SPIRIT will return to God. Right?

How many times will I tell you this?

Michael547:
Which other bible verse shows that God created man and put 'His Spirit' in man that is different from the 'breath of life' in Genesis 2:7?

If you say the spirit of man and Animal is different, explain Ecclesiastics 3:19 in the screenshot below.




Oga you are giving an interpretation of spirit and soul returning back to God in Ecclesiastics 12:7 according to your personal opinion.
If you said and agreed that both spirit and soul of good and bad people return to God who lives in heaven, why are you trying to twist the meaning According to your opinion that some soul and spirit do not need to get to God in heaven before going to hell fire?
Where are you getting this interpretation from?
Christianity EtcRe: My Spiritual Fervency Is Affecting My Secular Interests: How Do I Find Balance? by Emusan(m): 11:10am On Apr 28, 2024
Michael547:
Please identify what the spirit of man is in Genesis 2:7.
Gen 2:7 never talks about SPIRIT OF MAN but the breath of life

Spirit of man not equate LIFE FORCE.

Do animals have spirit?
Yes!

If yes, do their spirit differ from that of men?
Yes! God DIRECTLY created Man in His OWN IMAGE and put His Spirit in man.

Animals were created by command.

You can proof me wrong by providing where God PUT HIS SPIRIT IN ANIMALS.

You have no proof that the spirit and soul does not 'need' to go to heaven before going to hell since you've agreed that all spirit and soul must return to God who lives in heaven. It's just your personal opinion.
If you don't agree then Which location do the spirit and soul return to God before going to either heaven or hell fire?
[/quote]The fact that the SPIRIT RETURNED TO GOD is the proof.

That shows that it's only God who has the final say on where the Spirit will be temporarily.

Don't dodge this my question again:

Now, that means both the evil and righteous people SPIRIT will return to God. Right?
Christianity EtcRe: Why Don’t Jw Fathers Sit For Their Daughter Who Gets Married To Non Witness? by Emusan(m): 11:00am On Apr 28, 2024
Janosky:
Other youths are filthy Casanovas. iniquities is their norm not exception.
"Their churches have lost the glory."

Nah JW's write those screenshots evidences?
Which means there's no any difference between Jws and other Christians cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin

JaNosenss always proves the name right.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Don’t Jw Fathers Sit For Their Daughter Who Gets Married To Non Witness? by Emusan(m): 10:57am On Apr 28, 2024
Aemmyjah:
Envy will kill that small boy
😂
It's evident that majority of you on this forum lack simple comprehension.

Did I say 30 people died?

Do you know the meaning of GUN DOWN?

O ma se oooo
Christianity EtcRe: Why Don’t Jw Fathers Sit For Their Daughter Who Gets Married To Non Witness? by Emusan(m): 10:54am On Apr 28, 2024
Janosky:
Emusan LYING miscreant.

Bring the evidence of 30 people that died in your head
.
If not because you always proof yourself as JaNosense and lying liar jws like your father the Devil.

Where did you see 30 PEOPLE DIED in my post?

When I say you have simple comprehension issue you'll think otherwise.

At least you can't deny the incident didn't happen.
Christianity EtcRe: My Spiritual Fervency Is Affecting My Secular Interests: How Do I Find Balance? by Emusan(m): 7:00pm On Apr 27, 2024
Michael547:
But you agree that God's spirit appears in Genesis 1:2.
Yes! It's God's Spirit.

So where did you see ACTIVE FORCE?

Is God's spirit in Genesis 1:2 the same as the breath of life in Genesis 2:7 that generate life in both man and animals?
No because I never claimed God's Spirit is ACTIVE FORCE and Man Spirit is LIFE FORCE.

There's no difference between ACTIVE and LIFE.

You are a very dubious man😁😁😁....
You're more dubious.

So because God can operate more than the speed of life
Speed of LIFE Ke...

he revealed to you that the soul and spirit do not 'need' to return to him in heaven before going to hell fire?😁😁
The Bible says "...and The SPIRIT returned to God who gave it"

I know you lack simple comprehension but yes the Spirit doesn't need to get to heaven and this simply means that God is the one who has the final say on the Spirit.

I agree the spirit which is the life force in man and animals returns to God at death.
Spirit is not LIFE FORCE, only a dubious person will claim that.

Now, that means both the evil and righteous people SPIRIT will return to God.
Christianity EtcRe: My Spiritual Fervency Is Affecting My Secular Interests: How Do I Find Balance? by Emusan(m): 6:08pm On Apr 27, 2024
Michael547:
Oga holy spirit in Genesis 1:2 is the active force of God used for creation.
Active force never appear in any Bible verse.

You can proof me wrong.

The 'breath of life' in Genesis chapter 2:7 Is the spirit that generates 'life' in both humans and animals.
So God has two different SPIRITS, is that so?

Oga how do you know that the spirit and soul do not 'need' to get to heaven before God acts on it since you agree that they return to God who lives in heaven?
I know because God can operate more than the speed of light.

Now you agree that something survived in man after death, right?
Christianity EtcRe: My Spiritual Fervency Is Affecting My Secular Interests: How Do I Find Balance? by Emusan(m): 5:47pm On Apr 27, 2024
Michael547:
Oga the spirit of 'life force' is different from the holy spirit. The spirit of life force can also be referred to as breath in a man or animal.
Can you imagine "The Spirit of 'LIFE FORCE'"

What type of sentence is that?

Holy spirit is said to be ACTIVE FORCE
Human/Animals is said to be LIFE FORCE

What is the difference?

You are very dubious😁😁😁....you have said that every spirit and soul returns to God who lives in heaven.
So how do they not get to heaven before going to hell or don't they return to God again?
How do you know that they don't need to get to heaven?😁
Lack of comprehension is in play here.

The Spirit must RETURN to God, does it means it must get to heaven before God acts on it?

This is really pathetic.

The only dubious person here is the person who believed that when Man died, nothing survives after yet claiming THE LIFE FORCE RETURNED TO GOD.

This is the evidence that SOMETHING SURVIVES after the death of Man.
Christianity EtcRe: My Spiritual Fervency Is Affecting My Secular Interests: How Do I Find Balance? by Emusan(m): 5:26pm On Apr 27, 2024
Michael547:
Watch tower teaches that the spirit is the life force which operates in humans and animals and that it is not the person. So a person does not exist after death.
If SPIRIT is the life force then it means that's God's Holy Spirit which the same Watchtower teaches that is the ACTIVE FORCE. Is that correct?

So why ONLY HUMAN SPIRIT RETURNED TO GOD and not that of animals?

So you areMO saying that Every spirit and soul first gets to heaven before going to hell, right?
It doesn't need to get to heaven before directed to their temporary abode.

The fact is THE SPIRIT RETURNED TO GOD which means SOMETHING SURVIVES in man after death.
Christianity EtcRe: My Spiritual Fervency Is Affecting My Secular Interests: How Do I Find Balance? by Emusan(m): 5:17pm On Apr 27, 2024
Michael547:
Yes the spirit which is the life force goes back to God.
So why did Watchtower teaches that NOTHING SURVIVE in man after death?

Now answer my question.
You don't have question in the first place.


because the Spirit returned to God and the same spirit is directed to hell.
Christianity EtcRe: My Spiritual Fervency Is Affecting My Secular Interests: How Do I Find Balance? by Emusan(m): 5:13pm On Apr 27, 2024
Michael547:
I don't understand.....The spirit and soul goes to Hell fire after going to God in heaven?
Address my point first...

Good which means SOMETHING ACTUALLY exists after man died. Is that correct?
Christianity EtcRe: My Spiritual Fervency Is Affecting My Secular Interests: How Do I Find Balance? by Emusan(m): 5:11pm On Apr 27, 2024
Michael547:
Yes.
Good which means SOMETHING ACTUALLY exists after man died. Is that correct?

And you said the soul is inside the spirit.
So which soul and spirit goes to hell fire?
The same that returned to God.
Christianity EtcRe: My Spiritual Fervency Is Affecting My Secular Interests: How Do I Find Balance? by Emusan(m): 5:07pm On Apr 27, 2024
Michael547:
Lol....so which soul and spirit goes to hell fire?
You agreed that the Spirit returned to God, right?
Christianity EtcRe: My Spiritual Fervency Is Affecting My Secular Interests: How Do I Find Balance? by Emusan(m): 5:05pm On Apr 27, 2024
Michael547:
So when everyone dies, their spirit and soul returns to God?
"For then the dust will return to the earth, and the spirit will return to God who gave it." - Eccl 12:7

Which part is difficult to under here?
Christianity EtcRe: My Spiritual Fervency Is Affecting My Secular Interests: How Do I Find Balance? by Emusan(m): 5:01pm On Apr 27, 2024
Michael547:
Soul nko?
Soul resides in spirit.

At least you know the SPIRIT RETURNED TO GOD according to the scripture.
Christianity EtcRe: My Spiritual Fervency Is Affecting My Secular Interests: How Do I Find Balance? by Emusan(m): 4:58pm On Apr 27, 2024
Michael547:
So where does the soul and spirit go when a person dies?
"For then the dust will return to the earth, and the spirit will return to God who gave it." - Eccl 12:7
Christianity EtcRe: Why Don’t Jw Fathers Sit For Their Daughter Who Gets Married To Non Witness? by Emusan(m): 4:51pm On Apr 27, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ people throughout the earth knows!
They know that the whole world hasn't been Jws yet over 30 persons were gun down in a Kingdom Hall in Germany by exjws and Police has to come to their rescue.

They know that the whole world hasn't been Jws because jws are to be look with a suspicious and one eyes according to you.

They know that the whole world hasn't been Jws yet some Jws are committing different atrocities.

If you want receipt, you can say cheers cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy
HealthRe: Passenger Dies Inside Bus In Kwara by Emusan(m): 9:06am On Apr 26, 2024
cathodekazim:
Obingoes are really illiterate and kinsmen with zero IQ. A man was said to have seizures and couldn't be saved because of the remote area but see them displaying their stewpidness and low reasoning capabilities
You people are just so pathetic.

This case happened last weekend or early this week.

The lady inside the bus was the one who updated people on X(Twitter) for assistance as she's not a medical personnel.

And people told her what they can do.

But unfortunately as a country that didn't value life, for good whole 3 hours no help from anywhere.

What happened to this man is preventable and avoidable and it can happen to anyone but guess what killed the man. The poor state of the country results from many years of mismanagement by the so called leaders you people always supported.
Christianity EtcRe: The Christian Creation Story. Why Its An Old Wives Tale by Emusan(m): 8:50am On Apr 26, 2024
jaephoenix:
The Bible is a book adored by Christians. It has been found to contain a lot of errors, lies and contradictions and thus not a reliable book. I made a thread about it here, in case ya'll wanna check it out and debate on the points there. Unfortunately for Christians, the gaffess were so many, and they could not come up with any defenses.
But in this thread, I'm gonna concentrate on the creation story, cos a Christian challenged me to(Just like another christian challenged me to open a thread about the bible errors and in the end he never gave any defenses). The errors are so much that I have to take them in parts. So this is only Part 1

What are the factual errors in the Genesis creation account?
There are several errors, since it’s a creation myth based on the knowledge, superstitions and misconceptions of the people who wrote it, just like any other creation myth. Let’s consider just some of them:
You started the thread with a strawman argument.

Even though I've done this more than 10years ago on this forum I'll just try to summarise my point because I don't have time for a lengthy post.

1. Duration time for the creation. This is the first considerable problem. Genesis says that, from the early stages of the earth’s formation to the dawn of man, only six days passed, which is obviously wrong. We know this whole process took about 4 billion years.
You don't know stop lying, you believe it's 4Billiion years.

Many apologists try to solve this crude mistake by declaring that the word “day” has a more vague meaning, such as six general divisions of time. We don’t know this, however, and the whole context of the story seems closer to 24 hour days (for example, we constantly read “And the evening and the morning were the first day.”).
The Creator is a witness to His own creation and He's the one says He did it in just 6 days and model the time for man to used.

Even 100Billions years can't produce a design model out of chaos.

2. The order of creation days. The order in which the creation events happened in the bible and the true geological and biological evolution of the earth are completely different. Some examples follow:
You can't expect Creation to be the same as what follows after.

Creation came with supernatural events.

For instance the creation of the first man came as a FULL GROWN HUMAN not as a baby yet the way the Creator program Baby to form and develop is different.

a. In Genesis 1:7 it says God divided the waters above and under the firmament. The only logical way to interpret this “firmament” or “heavens”, is the atmosphere, where water in vapour form is stored and eventually falls as rain. If this was done in a subsequent stage of the earth’s formation (day two), we would expect that the amount of water vapour in the atmosphere should increase over time. We however know that the exact opposite happened, as carbon dioxide and water vapour were partly replaced by oxygen.
You came up with your own insertion not what Bible says.

b. In Genesis 1:11 it suggests that plants were the first form of life to appear, what is obviously wrong. It also suggests that plants and animals appeared in different times, what we know not to be true. Last, if compared to Genesis 1:16–18, it indicates that plants came before the sun, which would be impossible since sunlight is a fundamental ingredient to the process of photosynthesis, which is how plants produce their food.
If we should go by six days of creation.

Plants can survive weeks or even months without Sun.

So, few days between plants and sun isn't an issue here.

c. In Genesis 1:16–18, as discussed before, the sun comes only after the plants appeared on the planet, which is obviously absurd. Some apologists try to save this by alleging that the sun already existed but wasn’t visible until the fourth day, since the earth’s atmosphere was thicker. First of all, the atmosphere was already transparent enough to see the sun when the first plants appeared in the planet. Moreover, the organisms from which plants evolved had already “invented” the process of photosynthesis and hence needed a substantial amount of sunlight. Finally, there are several studies who show how a plant’s growth is deeply affected by an increased period of cloudy days, and so it’s absurd to suppose that big trees and others could have appeared in a time of thick atmosphere, where the portion of light entering the planet was so weak that the sun wasn’t even visible.
No issue here as stated above.

d. Genesis 1:20 and 24 suggests that flying animals came before land animals, which is just wrong due to the fossil and DNA knowledge we have.
How many Fossil and DNA do you have from YOUR 4 BILLIONS AGO?

which Land Animal first appear and which flying animal first appear?

3. Magical elements. Some apologists argue that the creation myth in Genesis has a special status, since it’s much more “sober” in terms of reality than the creation myths of other religions. First of all, what matters is the truth. To construct a fable with elements closer to reality doesn’t change the fact that it is a fable. Secondly, the fact that the Genesis account seems less mesmerizing than others is just because the israelites followed monotheism (or at least monolatrism), and hence their creation story was devoid of the many struggles between gods that commonly take place at the beginning of other myths. Finally, it’s important to remember that there are many magical elements surrounding the Genesis story: the book of Revelations talks about a war in heaven between a dragon and his hosts and an angel and his hosts; Genesis itself, just a few pages afterwards, talks about talking serpents, magic fruits and a universal flood that occured just because God was in a bad mood with humanity
I don't see how this relates to the other part of the thread.

Miracle exists with God and the creation itself is miracle.

So, do you think God who created human with speech can't make snake or any animal talk?
Christianity EtcRe: The Christian Creation Story. Why Its An Old Wives Tale by Emusan(m): 8:24am On Apr 26, 2024
jaephoenix:
2. I can show you screenshot of the Christian that challenged me to do the thread. His name is Emusan. Check his profile and his posts and you'll see it. And u owe me an apology for insinuating otherwise
Do you know what challenge mean?

This is the second time you've been saying this but because I couldn't address your thread and the post yesterday, you made this statement again.

What I said was that you can create any topics of yours on this forum and tag people and even people you didn't tag will still respond.

Lack of simple comprehension is at play here or because you're too curious to deviate from that thread.
PropertiesRe: How Many Bedroom Do You Think Lagos Landlord Will Get From This Kitchen? by Emusan(m): 2:55pm On Apr 25, 2024
SALLYBERRY01:
What did you use to design this
ArchiCAD
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah’s Witnesses Ease Shunning Rules After Blow In Oslo Court by Emusan(m): 11:21am On Apr 25, 2024
chatinent:
I'm irreligious rn.
Now but jws before, right?
PropertiesRe: How Many Bedroom Do You Think Lagos Landlord Will Get From This Kitchen? by Emusan(m): 11:15am On Apr 25, 2024
SALLYBERRY01:
GOD HAVE MERCY
It's actually a nice design especially if you see the interior.

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