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KunleOshob:
. . . Cause it is clear to all that the trinity concept is extra biblical and it was introduced by the early catholic church centuries after the apostles had passed on. . . .

nuclearboy:
^^^
Your aversion for the RCC is turning you into a "joagbaje" who chooses what he likes and discards the truth. . . .

And I hold in veneration
For the love of Him alone
Holy Church as His creation
and her teachings as His own

KunleOshob:
@enigma
I take except to the term "foolish" which you used in addressing my queries, this is supposed to be a mature discuss and you don't need to resort to abuse just becos someone exposes deep flaws and contradictions in your hypothesis.

KunleOshob:
In answering your questions, this is what the bible says:

>That the father is God.
>That Jesus is his only begotten son.
>That the holy spirit is the spirit of God which can be interpreted to mean a spirit of Godliness. Now where in the bible is it stated that these three entities are the same being even though the bible makes it clear they have similar attributes. Jesus said in clear terms that the father is greater than he is and that he is subject to the will of the Father, I don't why supposed christians would try and make Jesus what he or the bible NEVER claimed him to be.

aletheia:
^^^That was an interesting read! Raises all sorts of interesting implications with regard to the Septuagint and our "modern" translations of the OT which are based on the Hebrew Masoretic Text (perhaps a revision arising out of the Jews rejection of the Messiah?) What's your take on the issue?

MyJoe:

We are looking at things from biblical perspectives in this thread. We can show from the Bible that the Father is personal. But that won't be necessary, of course, since you probably know lots more about it than I do.

Deep Sight:
^^^ Hmm. E se o. Maybe someday I may be worth your time for a chat over a cup of tea.

Untill that day, now I am quite heavy hearted and must be bowed.

Deep Sight:
Your aversion to open discussion is most telling. It both saddens and frightens me. There is something very frigteningly dictatorial about it. Persons who are willing to discuss their faith and seeming inconsistencies therein are democrats and open teachers. Persons who will brand a discussion as "contemptible" and refuse to engage in it simply because it refers to the ontology of the Holy Spirit, and proffers a view that a given ontology will be inconsistent with certain doctrines  - are certainly very intolerant of open discussion indeed.

enitan2002:
when you personally think you an idea of a subject, why asking a question about it again Cos i'm very sure any explanation different from your own definition wont be acceptable by you.

Deep Sight:
For the Trinitarians - once it can be shown that the Holy Spirit is conceived in scripture as a force and not a person. . .the entire trinitarian construct instantly collapses and must be and remain dead on arrival.

1. I have found a friend in Jesus,
he's everything to me,
he's the fairest of ten thousand to my soul;
the Lily of the Valley, in him alone I see
all I need to cleanse and make me fully whole.
In sorrow he's my comfort, in trouble he's my stay,
he tells me every care on him to roll.
Refrain:
He's the Lily of the Valley,
the bright and Morning Star,
he's the fairest of ten thousand to my soul.  . . . . .

Thy Kingdom come, O God,
Thy rule, O Christ, begin;
Break with Thine iron rod
The tyrannies of sin.

. . .

O’er heathen lands afar
Thick darkness broodeth yet:
Arise, O Morning Star,
Arise, and never set!

A would-be armed robber who held up a mobile phone shop repented during the raid  and left as a rescued soul after a sermon from a Christian shop assistant.

Nayara Goncalves, 20, told the man calmly that God had better plans for him when he drew a gun and demanded cash from the till of the shop in Pompano Beach, Florida.

The fearless shop assistant even made the robber promise he would go back to church and turn his life around as he sheepishly left after listening to five minutes of preaching.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1298991/Armed-robber-Nayara-Goncalves-abandons-raid-shop-assistant-preaches-Christian-sermon.html#ixzz0vBbSSNSY

Televangelist Benny Hinn is asking his prayer partners to donate $2 million to his ministry because of financial difficulties.

In a message in his website, Hinn said his ministry accumulated the $2 million deficit in the last few months because of the poor economy, which translated to fewer offerings in some of his crusades in different parts of the world.

He cited one crusade in Jakarta, Indonesia recently where his ministry lost money "because the people could not give."

Hinn, who built his ministry through massive healing crusades and TV shows, said Benny Hinn Ministries has cut down on staff and expenses amounting to $21 million since 2008.

He added that the $2 million deficit is not a large amount and that God could surely provide. He pointed out, however, that some of his vendors "are asking for their money. They have been very kind in helping us and standing with us, but the time has come for this deficit to be taken care of so that I can go on preaching the Gospel without pressure."

He then asked his prayer partners to sow a seed into his ministry so that the gospel would continue to be preached.

"Think about the impact, the negative impact it would have If I said, 'OK, I cannot travel anymore. The financial pressure is just too heavy on me. Let somebody else do it.' God would judge me. Secondly, think about the souls that would not hear the gospel. Is it really worth? Of course not. $2 million, that's nothing. God can do that," he said.

While both Hinn, 57, and White, 44, have admitted to being friends for over two decades, both issued statements denying that there is anything inappropriate about their relationship.

"There is nothing inappropriate or morally improper about my friendship with Paula White," Hinn wrote in a message on his Web site.

In a statement issued on her Web site, White said she and Hinn have become closer since both have endured painful public divorces, but "our friendship has ,  Remained morally and spiritually pure."

Still, Hinn and White said in the future they would seek to avoid any appearance of impropriety.

"Because of my preeminent priority to my ministry and calling, Paula and I have concluded that we should avoid the appearance that our friendship is biblically impure or violates Scripture in any way," Hinn wrote.

He added that the two had "independently determined that we will have no further social relationship until such time as my divorce has concluded and only if we feel direction from the Lord to do so."