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I repeat a point made in my last post: Christ's presence convicted Zacchaeus; maybe RCCG is not convicted because Christ is not present in it?

[quote author=omo~fat link=topic=481794.msg6429989#msg6429989 date=1279791662]^^^ Since you're so into this particular story, let take abit further.

Christ went to eat in this man's house, no?
Lets imagine that Zacc didn't feel convicted and make the offer to repay, would Christ have had to vomit the food he ate?
Would the folks outside have been justified to come and carry Christ because he "knowingly" ate in a crooked man's house?

I'm not saying the church should be a haven for all kinds of criminals but come on, be fair.

As someone said earlier, are you also going to go after the children's schools and everyone Akingbola ever donated money to?

Come on[/quote]You don't understand the story.

Christ chose to dine with Zacchaeus knowing beforehand that Zacc was a tax collector BUT also knowing that His (Christ's) presence with Zacc would convict Zacc. Maybe Christ is not present in RCCG which is why RCCG does not feel convicted?

^^^^ If and when RCCG are convicted by Christ's teaching they will know what to do.

If RCCG is led and directed by the Holy Spirit rather than mammon, they will know what to do.

EDIT Remember our friend Zacchaeus? When he was convicted by Christ's teaching, he knew what to do without needing to be told.

^^^ And RCCG does not feel convicted about receiving stolen money? Is RCCG really following Christ then?

[quote author=omo~fat link=topic=481794.msg6429672#msg6429672 date=1279788267]Christ didn't tell Zacc to return the money, Christ didn't force Zacc to return the money - Zacc himself felt convicted and offered to refund whatever stolen money he had with interest. Get the story right.[/quote]So, Zacc felt convicted by Christ's teaching; but the RCCG does not feel convicted by Christ's teaching!

Which one of them is Christ's follower then? Does RCCG believe in Christ at all, then?

Last two posts quite good; Jesus is God of course and said so Himself.

The Christians arguing against this simply do not understand what it means to say "Jesus is God".

We can ignore the non-Christians altogether --- unless they are seeking genuine understanding even as they disagree.

anonimi:
Luke 19: 1-10 . . .

I guess going by your logic, Zaccheus should have waited for "proof" and "legal body" to convict him rather than the presence of Christ alone being sufficient. Note that the declaration of salvation was after the restitution promise by Zaccheus.
But obviously Adeboye and others like him are not worshipping the God of Christ but something else.

anonimi:
plenty questions- one simple answer:

follow the example of Christ with Zaccheus as stated in my previous post except the church is not of Christ.

Very good answer  too.

Also, below is an interesting exercise in 'logic':

- Akingbola has not been convicted of stealing

- RCCG has not been proven to have received stolen money from Akingbola

- James Ibori has not been convicted of looting

- Babangida has not been convicted of looting

- Abacha was never convicted of looting

- Abacha was never convicted of brutality

- Abacha was never convicted of killing Ken saro Wiwa

If I've got this to work, you should see a Raven 90 dish with 7 LNBs on it though it can actually receive from 8 satellites as one of the LNBs get signals from 2 different satellites.

Starting from extreme left right as we look at it: 1w, 5e, 7e & 9e, 13e (centre), 16e, 19e, 28e.

The attached file was drawn up by a kind poster on satellites.co.uk; see http://www.satellites.co.uk/forums/dish-setup-guides-information-threads-faqs/133694-offset-lnb-monobloc-lnb-guide-pdf.html

It will give an idea of how satellite signals are reflected (as with a mirror) in a multi-LNB set up.

I will post something equally interesting in the next post.

I should point out a qualification that I added on the multi-LNB thread.

My earlier reply was based on the positioning of the LNBs alone. The LNBs are correctly Nilesat at focus, 7e at B and 28e at C. I do not think your arrows showing the incoming directions of the waves and signals are correct --- but that is not critical for practical purposes; that is more relevant for theoretical understanding.

I should point out that my reply on the other thread was based on the positioning of the LNBs alone. The LNBs are correctly Nilesat at focus, 7e at B and 28e at C. I do not think your arrows showing the incoming directions of the waves and signals are correct --- but that is not critical for practical purposes; it is more relevant for theoretical understanding.

@freshp

Exactly! W3A is 7e and multi TV is 28e; normally, they should be on the other side of the Nilesat LNB except that the east is reversed to "west" in multi LNB setup.

What confused me earlier was that the LNB which you now call 7e, Microgiant had referred to as 22w ---- which cannot really be correct.

Is Malagasy on W3A?

EDIT I now realise that "Malagasy" or "Madagascar" refers to the MBCs on 7e ----- so you are totally correct.

@freshp

Use enigmatrax@hotmail.com

I might be slow to respond but I will get back to you in the end.

eni

No hard feelings at anyone at all, in all honesty. I just say things as I see it --- when I can be bothered.

Keep FTA flag flying.  

Do your job, man; no one is preventing you from doing that. I will always air my opinion if I see abuse/likely abuse of power ---- until I am banned or something.

Then allow us to air legitimate opinions. Easy!

I have no need to petition the owner nor any desire whatsoever to act as moderator. As a contributor, I have the right to air my opinion ----- within the rules.

enitan2002:
you cant be in office without abusing it once in a while . . .

Moderator, ride on!!!!!!!

And you think that is a good thing?

twinstaiye:
Picking on me? You sure know how to ride a horse then.  You come off your low horse, It is not an assumptions, it is what i know for a fact, no wonder you claimed to read all about multi tv here when there is in fact a thread open for that. I am doing my job as moderator, I am not here to please you.
And I hasten to add that, one more pick on me, the post wont see the light of the day.

That will be an abuse of moderator powers --- in so far as the chap does not break the rules. And that is not simply because it has happened to me too in the past.

Naah, I don't think he has enough 'integrity' or 'cleverness' to go for even that! My suspicion is that it is one of those "PhDs" you can buy for about $300 or so based on your "life experience". Don't be surprised to see Joagbaje parading a "PhD" soon when he is able to raise enough money to buy one.

@Joagbaje

Here, go and get your own "PhD" too!

http://www.lorenzuniversity.com/lp/adjectives/buy.asp?source=GoogleL-US&kw=Buy%20phd&amd=1&seg=1&cagn=13&kmt=broad&gclid=CJfz5-jb_KICFeF95QodBihkjQ

http://www.universaldegrees.com/universaldegrees/offer3.asp?source=Google-US&kw=Buy%20phd&amd=1&seg=1&cagn=29&kmt=broad&gclid=CN-wmfja_KICFcl25QodoGuajg

EDIT pasiitor Joagbaje, I hope you realise how easy it is: No admission, No studies, No exams! What are you waiting for? Note that you can get yout your "PhD" in just 15 (yes, FIFTEEN) days!

^^^ There are lots of them in Chris Embassy (parading as Christ Embassy); it is basically endemic there and it's as if the people are bewitched to go and steal and them bring the stolen money into the church. Below is another example:


https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-356276.0.html

N15m scam rocks Chris Oyakhilome’s church
23 November, 2009 01:27:00 Reports

Another round of crisis is rocking Pastor Chris Oyakhilome’s Christ Embassy, as a former student of Igbinedion University, Okada, Edo State, Victor Osagie, alias Jerry Finger, has admitted defrauding foreigners of $96,607( about N15million) and spending the proceeds on tithes and offerings in the church.

Osagie, a 23 -year old former Chemical Engineering student who dropped out of the university in 2004 due to what he called ‘family issues’, was picked up by operatives of the Economic and Financial Crimes Commission (EFCC) in Benin, following a petition by a regional compliance officer with Moneygram International, who suspected that the number of foreign ladies, mostly Americans and Germans, who have been sending money to the fraudster were victims of fraud.

magaddai:
@Enigma, Pls i'm a newbie in this stuff. Kindly what are feeds, how can one use/utilise them with his decoder if possible. Thanx a lot. You guys are doing great job. Keep it up.

Don't worry, friend, we were all newbies at one point. 

A "feed" in our context is a satellite television signal used by an operator to supply pictures/sound to stations that are far away. Let us say you are in Abuja watching NTA Abuja but NTA Abuja wants to receive a transmission from NTA Enugu; one of the ways by which NTA Enugu can send the transmission to Abuja is by a satellite feed which NTA Abuja will receive ("download" and transmit to their viewers.

If you want to enjoy NTA feeds and e.g. watch the newscasters while they are preparing to read the news try 27.5w on C Band; when I had it I used to be able to see the newscasters joking around or adjusting their make-up etc before reading the news. 

EDIT To see various feeds that people have found (most are in Europe though) try http://www.satelliweb.com/index.php?section=livef

@ Hotwire

Could you please confirm the name of the satellite (or the orbital position) that you receive with the second (i.e. 'Madagascar') LNB. This is because I don't think it is NSS 7 (22w?) as Microgiant stated it.

@ Microgiant

Many many thanks for the pictures.

Well, as was said of him the fraudulent wolf in sheep clothing that is Joagbaje has so far been unable to redeem his own integrity.

However, even as it is most desirable for a sinner to turn away from his sin, again here is one more chance for pasiiiitor Joagbaje to redeem himself:

. . . could you please tell us which university or institution he (Oyakhilome) got his PhD from and in which year?

anonimi:
The yorubas have a saying:

eni gbe epo l'aja ko jale bi eni to gba lowo e= he who stole oil from the shelve is not as guilty as the one who received it from him.

do the maths and figure out where the gravity of the supposedly all-knowing pastors' guilt lies

The law of the land and lawyers call it "Receiving Stolen Property"

It could have been a Feed. Some feeds are a one-off, some are occasional and some are regular/frequent on a particular frequency.

freshp:
@ hot wire
i will really love to see how you did it since to the best of my knowledge multi tv is on the east while nilesat is on the west. . . for malagasy i can understand its close to nilesat. but multi tv. . .well
i need to know

When you are using a multi-LNB setup the central LNB remains where it will be as aligned to the focus satellite. However, the other LNBs are placed in "reverse" i.e. an LNB for a satellite that is east in the sky will be placed "west" on the LNB rail and vice versa. This is because the satellite signals are reflected at an angle especially on an offset dish.

Joagbaje:
Most bibles are in kjv. Do you want him to produce another translation? The major thing is the study materials inside. So producing a jkv is not plagiarism. We have many study bibles that are jkvs. Mr learned, Do you know what plagiarism is? It was used with permission.The major work of the bible is the middle references. And concordance with word of exhortation. In your rage and jealousy you didnt even bother to find out about it. This is just a tip of the iceberge. The phd holder will soon flood every nation with other materials .

Small people talk about successful men. Why is the phd paining you, Dont allow it to make your certificate inferior.

I will let you in on a little secret. I have acted as examiner (or a marker if that is too complicated for you) of people's PhDs. I won't say beyond that about my profile to avoid boasting.

You have now shown yourself to be an untrustworthy weasel and probably a fraud whose god is his belly and who is not to be trusted.

I will give you yet one more chance to redeem yourself:

. . . could you please tell us which university or institution he (Oyakhilome) got his PhD from and in which year?

Pleasure, George.

According to various things that we have read, heard or even watched him say himself:

1. God once told the G.O. that out of thousands of people present in one gathering only about a dozen or so "would make heaven" if the world ended then.

2. He once invited God to drink tea and his cup of tea became half-full

3. When he is standing at his gatherings including ("Holy Ghost" nights), god is always talking to him there and then e.g. telling him that one person with headache "is receiving healing", another person with bad mouth odour is getting his healing, another one who farts all the time is being restored to her pride etc etc etc ad nauseam

This same G.O., god now refused to tell him that his lieutenants including Akingbola are thieves?? ?? ??

Pull another one!!!!!

Joagbaje:
May God forgive your dirty heart. I'm a DuncE. Phd is fake. What is your proof.  If I prove to you it's genuine won't you call it worldly? The degree was important for umbelievers like you. Are you aware pastor Chris produced a bible? And fir such bible to be authorized internationaly, one must meet some requirement? I'm a Dunce? . And other materials will be produced soon . Commentaries etc. I'm a Dunce?

Intact you deserve a slap!

GBOGA! Take that for your face!

With this post you have shown by your own words that you are indeed an ignoramus and a dunce. And of course you have not denied, let alone disprove, that you are a weasel. 

Yeah right, opaks Oyaks Oyakhilome "produced a bible" indeed. The ignoramus is referring to one of the cheating fads of various WoF "preachers" to make merchandise of their victims by packaging a regular Bible e.g. the KJV (especially if public domain), write a few words or "prayer points" here and there and sell to their victims. And in the case of a dunce like Joagbaje, the mugs say "oh, he is so great he has even produced a Bible". Where, when and how is such a Bible "authorized internationally"?

I will give you one more chance to redeem yourself:

. . . could you please tell us which university or institution he (Oyakhilome) got his PhD from and in which year?