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shanda:
I came across this link, I hope you guys will take time to read through it. It addressed everything inside out with all the necessary bible verses that talked about tithing. I still don't know where the bible specifically say we should pay 10% as tithe.

8 And the Scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, preached the gospel to Abraham beforehand, saying, "In you all the nations shall be blessed". 9 So then those who are of faith are blessed with believing Abraham.

InesQor:
@PA1982
If that's what you think then I have nothing more to say to you. Cheers. . . .

Vicar made thief kneel until police arrived

Father Andrew Cain, the vicar of St James' Church in West Hampstead, London, confronted the crook after hearing assistant curate Christine Cargill let out a shriek.

Father Cain rushed to find out what had happened and came face-to-face with burglar Eric McDougall - who had stolen £150 in collection money and an iPhone - as he tried to run off.

But rather than let the 54-year-old thief escape, Father Cain stood firmly in front of him barring his way and ordered him to: "Kneel down on the floor'.

Speaking this week about the 11am raid on February 22, Father Cain, 44, said: "I heard Christine cry out and I saw this figure and was worried he might have done something to her."

He added: "I just stood in front of him and told him to kneel on the floor - luckily he was quite obliging. . . ."

There is some debate about whether Paul is using the Philo’s categories of “earthly” and “heavenly” man. Although some see Philo’s influence, the connection is tenuous, especially with no proof that Paul uses Philo’s categories anywhere else. Most of Paul’s other terminology differs sufficiently from Philo that there is no reason to conclude that he is being influenced by him in this passage. This is all the more true when one considers that evidence for the influence of Genesis on this passage is much stronger. There is no reason to posit another major background influence since the Genesis influence sufficiently explains the passage.

Possible Rabbinic influences face the same problem; a superficial reading seems to support the conclusion that Paul was influenced by them, but analysis invariably exposes such links as forced.

debosky:
I find myself agreeing with nuclear boy again. . . . How times gave changed!

Salary in itself is not the issue, it's what drives the person - motivation for profit or a true desire to devote oneself solely to preaching the message without seeking other forms of vocation.

The potential for abuse is what has led me to rethink some of my giving to a 'church'.

Zikkyy:
there's no way i will agree a priesthood can be called 'AFTER THE ORDER OF MELCHIZEDEK'. The way i understand it, Christ priesthood is of the type 'similar' to that of Melchi. Thats what the bible meant by 'after the order'.

The Scriptures say the following about him: "You are a priest forever, in the way Melchizedek was a priest."

But for pastor Chris to say it's ok, I believe him becos he is a very learned man in the things of the spirit and would never say something is ok if it isn't

Joagbaje:
So what do you say about this charade" here.

Mark 9:26
26 And the spirit cried, and rent him sore, and came out of him: and he was as one dead; insomuch that many said, He is dead.

James
                                          You see, Derek, I'm some-
                                          thing of an amateur
                                          horologist.

                                                       Del
                                                  (Quietly)
                                          I thought it was too good
                                          to be true. Now he's gonna
                                          tell our bloody fortune.

                                                       Rodney
                                          No, an horologist. It means
                                          an expert in watches.

                                                       Del
                                          Oh, that sort of horologist.

John to the seven churches which are in Asia: Grace be unto you, and peace, from him which is, and which was, and which is to come; and from the seven Spirits which are before his throne

And unto the angel of the church in Sardis write; These things saith he that hath the seven Spirits of God, and the seven stars; I know thy works, that thou hast a name that thou livest, and art dead.

And out of the throne proceeded lightnings and thunderings and voices: and there were seven lamps of fire burning before the throne, which are the seven Spirits of God.

And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth.

nuclearboy:
Great to see you re-emphasize the above

It solves the problem this thread poses

WE CANNOT explain these things adequately and so needs find where our confluence of agreement is which we have seen thus far

Can we then agree to sheath swords and apply selves to more productive ventures standing against the real enemies within Christianity ?

. . . the question that I posed . . . remains: how can Jesus be God and The Father be God at the same time? To this of course we add, how can Jesus be God, The Father be God and the Holy Spirit be God at the same time. I suppose one honest answer would be to say: "we don't know - but that is what the Bible reveals". I can live with that.

And now, Father, glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world began.

“Father, I want those you have given me to be with me where I am, and to see my glory, the glory you have given me because you loved me before the creation of the world.