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dammywapes:
I’m referring to whole season not restart. Final third or not he scores big team. He might have get a goal second leg to liverpool if he was fully fit. That second leg to liverpool i don’t see us losing to them. For a while , we lost to them because we lack leader who can convert our chances pereira lost open goal while martial formed ice cold as usual.

We didn't finish higher than 66 points because of our results against smaller teams. We did fairly well against big teams. We played counter attacking football

dammywapes:
No coach will toy with rashford , reason is look at is stat against top 6 this season even before ole came during LVG reign rashford do score big teams. Same thing England boss don’t toy with him tho he is off form i won’t be surprised if he score sevilla tomorrow.

We've only played against 2 top teams since we resumed.

And please let's not make this about Rashford. The whole is clueless 90% of the time when we get to the final third

afrodoc2:
You have moved on to another issue now. Let's just agree to disagree on this issue.

I didn't na. The injury is to be blamed. Okay got it

elrony:
I like the guy Sha I no go lie... Barca move probably did him dirty

I think the finance is the problem for Bayern maybe.

I'm kinda indifferent about him. If he's that expensive, we should look away. Honestly I'm tired of buying expensive players only for us to complain and complain. How much did those bayern players cost? E no just make sense because we will still troll these players and complain about them

Leyqute:
Don’t engage it na

Lol I won't

afrodoc2:
I was not debating Ole's ability or inability to coach. Was just talking about Rashford's specific situation. Or was it not Ole that was coaching him before he got injured?


Rashford: explosive and making all sort of runs before injury. Rashford: immobile and trying long range passes rather than taking players on after injury.
Same coach, same team but somehow it is not the injury but the coach. We should try to be fair in our assessments.

Rashford was not here when Bruno came in and we started getting good results. We were winning. Why must the coach play him when he's not fit? And how long before this injury excuse expires?

BlueAngel444:
are you saying Abraham on 18goals outscored Rashyform who has just about 15 or 16 goals from open play

Abraham ST, Rashford LW

elrony:
Make we sign am?

Barca pursue am comot, bayern wan do same, odikwa risky. Unless he comes for below 40m and agrees salary of 100k

afrodoc2:
I made that post 1 week after the restart. Maybe i just was paying more attention, and maybe it only became obvious to you after he reduced his movement further due to ill-effects of trying to run on a back that is not fully recovered..

I saw him and Greenwood swap positions a couple of times in our match against Bournemouth.

Anyways, this isn't only about Rashford. When we started AWB (did after a couple of games and switched off) and Williams won't take risk and get down to the byline. We get into the attacking third and we become confused on what to do with the ball. A player holds the ball and instead of others creating space and making runs, they stand still. Sometimes they bump into each other because they don't know where the ball is going to end up next. OGS the manager will be enjoying tye comfort of his sit, other managers are quick to react if something is not going to plan.

We're going to play Sevilla next. I won't be surprised if we make Sevilla turn Bayern because we're very clueless with the ball when we get to final third

melodyogonna:
Maybe he's not making those runs cos he's still healing? I'm sure he would not have been on the starting lineup until next season if James was a little bit more useful. Everyone who watched Rashford before his injury knows he doesn't hug the touchline, that was James.

afrodoc2:
Before Rashford broke a bone in his spine he was constantly making runs. Since he came back from the injury he stopped making those runs, and you think it is due to coach’s tactic?

When we resumed the league, he was swapping positions with Martial and Greenwood. He was playing closer to the box 18 with better movements. Is there are another after we resumed I'm not aware of?

afrodoc2:
How can a woman be this lousy?

Trust Chelshit to attract the omo alata cadre of female.

The unfortunate chelshit is not a female. I don't know people keep insisting it's a female

melodyogonna:
Rashford scored 23 this season, that looks like a lot of improvement to me. If you think he's not improving especially his overall game involvement then we're definitely not watching the same team.

He scored those goals when he was free to run into attacking positions and get into the 18 box. What is he doing gummed to the LW?

You're making my point for me. Rashford is not a bad player like some of us wants us to believe here, the tactics make him so. And nobody can tell me that that's not the coach tactics because we've seen him there in the last 10 matches or so. Yet OGS did not come down to bark instructions.

engrelvis:
Barca defeat yesterday shud nt b a surprise. Dey r on d decline. Their best players including messi v passed their peak n r ageing.Everything shud nt b revolving around him .A new path need to b created with new n talented players( am still puzzle y coutiho was let go.He shud v been given more time).same thing happened to world cup winning Spain

Same Coutinho is about to be shipped away from Bayern this season. He has no place in the first eleven

dubylhover:
Not forgetting that they started this season with Niko kovac who wasn't playing this kind of football..didn't include muller as a core member of his team, flick came in and changed the dynamic and mentality of the team..in as much as good players are important,the basic job starts from a tactically astound manager

Exactly! There are some things you'll see and you'll recognize the input of the manager. The same Bayern that was struggling earlier this season. Henderson that we don't rate is a key member of Klopp's team. If we had Henderson in our squad, he would have been the scapegoat for the overall team's performance.

Lana1:
It doesn't matter the calibre of players the opposition team has. An team with inconsistent players will always drop average performances.

No be the personnel dey drop those average performances??

They? Not the manager this time?
Is this not what I have been saying? Our guys are too inconsistent and hardly drop 7/10 performances every game unlike those at Bayern.

So the talent is there, the skill is there, but they're inconsistent. Is this what you're saying?

They can do better means that they have the ability to do better with the right system and guidance. They're not lost cause. They're much better than what they're churning every week.

If you think the team is bad and its OGS that's just trying to make sense of it and salvage the situation, well good for you. If you think that the manager has no role to play in improving this team performance, good for you.

Lana1:
You're just grasping at straws. So na ur interpretation of that post be this?
Is it Ole's job to go and discover unknown players in far away countries?

He asked for AWB that was available and got him. Or which other decent RB was available on the market for cheaper?

How decent was Rob, TAA, Davies before they joined their current clubs? Did you know any of them? Players dey please. Maybe James was the only one available too

Lana1:
Gnabry has played well under 2 different managers for Bayern. RAshford is still struggling to make his mark for the 3rd manager.

If Rashford will make it into Bayern's team, he will have to stop all that his headless chicken runs and start playing with his head.

How many players have improved under Ole? Fred seemed to be improving till he started playing shít again. Rashford too has been off and on.
Martial has improved since the restart. We can only pray it lasts and he stays consistent. I dont know about you, but I can't fault a manager who's players have refused to be consistent.
At least we can use the injury excuse for Rashford. What can we use for Fred, McTom, Lingard, Pereira, Pogba

United passing around the box is down to OGS tactics. It's up to him to switch it up if things aren't going according to plan. I have already admitted that OGS game management is average. When are you going to admit the personnel is also average?

Should we list the teams we have played recently maybe you will tell us the above average players they have there.

The personnel is not average, the performance is average. They can do better. The current players we have should make the likes of Copenhagen sit back and stay pressed in their half from the first minute. Most of the first 11 players we have are above average.

Lana1:
United get scouts?
We dont do cheap bargain transfers like they do at Bayern. Our transfer policy is child's play compared to Bayern's so that comparison no follow.
AWB was the best of what was available at the time. Hopefully one of our academy boys will send him to the bench in a few years

Wow OGS is being forced to accept players now. I blame Ed

Lana1:
You have to work hard to get what you want. No be the same Gnabry of Arsenal? He and Perisic have both improved their game to be at this level.
You think Rashford will get into this Bayern team with his headless chicken runs?

We've been getting more bodies into the box but thing is we hardly cross. Na pass pass pass around the box, till you pass the ball enter net like Arsenal of old. That one is Ole.

You think Gnabry and Perisic improved without the input of the manager and teammates? Oh when it comes to Ole, no player wants to improve abi? Rashford will definitely not be playing like he's currently doing for Bayern. Gnabry can go to Bayern and improve but Rashford cannot? Or it doesn't work for United players?

During the days of Wenger, we blamed the pass pass pass on Wenger, but for OGS, the players are conspiring against him right? That's why he will sit comfortably like someone that has everything going according to plan?

Lana1:
Ok.
3 different managers, LVG, Mourinho and OGS and very little has changed.

I agree with you that OGS management is average. But OGS will not be sacked anytime especially after sneaking in 3rd place.
But I dey wait that Nagelsmann or Poch that will fall into our lap from heaven and turn AWB to Davies overnight.

Even Pep and Klopp had to remould their squads before becoming champions.

I'm not calling for OGS sack, but if he gets the sack, it's on him. How much did Davies cost Bayern? Where did he come from? If you say AWB is bad, who bought him and for how much?

Lana1:
eph12 see this one...

https://images2.imgbox.com/81/4e/Zu6oNun4_o.gif
I'm sure it's not Flick that taught Davies how to take on his man.
Dude took on Semedo 1-on-1 and beat him. He sure for am die.

Is it Williams or Shaw that will do this?
Shaw will run to the corner flag, cut back and start looking for Pogba at the center circle to pass back to

Bayern were leading with 4 goals or so but see the number of players that got into that box 18. This thing is not just skill. The mentality, determination, believe that the ball will come. Our players will be undecided on what to do

Lana1:
Not everything is on the manager. His own is to set them up on how to play.
Most of the work still rests on the player.

See Perisic's brilliant movement here to overlap Gnabry.
https://images2.imgbox.com/e7/1a/rWbGPdwB_o.gif
U want to tell me na manager dey coach this thing or it's the player using his own intuition to create space with his movement?

Rashford would have run ahead of him instead to where he'll be crowded by Pique and Lenglet.
That's why i was really impressed with his goal against Crystal Palace coz i knew it may be awhile before we see Rashford pull off a play like that again.

Anyways u can keep praying for any manager you want at United. Thing is United will probably never be able to play like Bayern.
Pogba and Martial will press for 10 minutes and start panting.

You don't know that team movement, awareness etc is part of what you practice in the training ground? You think these players were born with it? Same Perisic lmao

We will be attacking and we can't even cross because there's nobody in the box or just one person. The rest are behind waiting for the ball to be passed back to them.

Lana1:
Not everything is on the manager. His own is to set them up on how to play.
Most of the work still rests on the player.

See Perisic's brilliant movement here to overlap Gnabry.
https://images2.imgbox.com/e7/1a/rWbGPdwB_o.gif
U want to tell me na manager dey coach this thing or it's the player using his own intuition to create space with his movement?

Rashford would have run ahead of him instead to where he'll be crowded by Pique and Lenglet.
That's why i was really impressed with his goal against Crystal Palace coz i knew it may be awhile before we see Rashford pull off a play like that again.

Anyways u can keep praying for any manager you want at United. Thing is United will probably never be able to play like Bayern.
Pogba and Martial will press for 10 minutes and start panting.

They shouldn't play like bayern, they should play like Manchester United. We play against Southampton, Copenhagen, and the likes, it's almost as if we're the smaller team. O I forgot, they have Muller, Lewandowski, Davies etc while we have useless Rashford, AWB, Williams and co. Ole will probably pray to have the players the likes of Copenhagen has

Lana1:
Barca even with Messi(and how many managers now in the last few years?) are getting slapped every year in Europe. Even LaLiga teams are starting to flex muscle for them as well.

You look at Bayern and you see 11 players that turn up every game with at least a 7/10 performance.

But we are supposed to believe Rashford needs Nagelsmann before he can ball against Copenhagen!

It's ok!!

E be like you must think that the work of the coach is a joke. Abi na to just turn up for training ground, attend press conferences and pump fist? lol

Oasis007:
We need Rashford's A Game for our front 3 to perform satisfactorily. Rashy has become shadow of himself so far. He needs to up his Game or gets benched for Perreira..... or James......

He doesn't roam, just sticks to that LW and nobody to tell him to move

Lana1:
It's not Poch again? Ok.

Poch dey press?

weedtaker:
their game against city will be interesting.

City never win na

Nezzjnr:
Omo Messi has done his best

He can't defend.. Assist and still score

Ehn he should do one na. Which one is he doing tonight?

adexeli:
Kai.. See how Bayern dey press.. When will we grow to this stage

You see the fitness level and coordinated press, you just know that OGS needs to learn a lot here. This one is not about players. Even Southampton dey press

BykeLaByke:
First half 4-1.

30 minutes you mean

Lana1:
Make we no lie, make we no deceive ourselves, make we no give false testimonies,
how we wan take compete with teams like Bayern in the UCL with players like AWB, Rashford and Williams?

Give these players to the likes of Nagelsmann

lmao debroslink was rehearsing to come and party in united thread. hahahahahahaha