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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 1:21pm On Aug 23, 2020
Leyqute:
With maturity and discipline he can be more
Nah he can't
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 2:43pm On Aug 22, 2020
larride:
Na so.

Sancho will solve all our issues. undecided
Obviously sancho comes and we dominate EPL weekly
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 7:37pm On Aug 21, 2020
Panther7:
It was an analogy, so we shouldn't sign a right winger that we need desperately because we don't want to "block Greenwood's progress"
I think we need a Sancho who can play across the front line. Greenwood can also strike. I don't think Sancho will block Greenwood progress.

I was only pointing out that your analogy is way off
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 6:25pm On Aug 21, 2020
Panther7:
It's only in England you hear things like "block ones progress" Greenwood isn't a winger ole is even blocking his progress if he keeps playing him on the right. just like the way Robben blocked Gnabry's progress abi cheesy
Robben and Gnabry are not around same age tho. Wide difference
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 6:14pm On Aug 21, 2020
MaziAlaye:
This arrest changes nothing for the people who wanted Maguire to not be captain. They’re gonna continue the agenda that he’s been a shit signing and a shit captain even though we have the lowest xGA with with Lindelöf and De Gea in defence.
I actually hope he leaves so we admire him and miss him from outside as usual but that's not going to happen anytime soon
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by eph12(m): 9:01pm On Aug 20, 2020
OtemAtum:
grin cheesy

Our politicians are doing evil, but he can't use any of their pictures. It is one dude out there that hasn't done any harm to his ancestors and will do no harm to his generations he wants his pictures cheesy Yeye can smell!!
Why does this sound like fear or subtle belief?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 8:59pm On Aug 20, 2020
Panther7:
Please oo who the hell is Brooks and why is he on our transfer list? huh huh
Who told you that he's on our transfer list?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 2:15pm On Aug 20, 2020
GloryIsaac:
It was mentioned earlier that United will play at least 45 matches next season, with it increasing to 50+ based on basic progress (group stage >> R16 etc.), so it's obvious to the blind that depth is important.

However, it is more important that more good players are brought in, makes it easy to seat under-performing ones.

Chelsea already has 3 solid options for the CF role (not counting Michy).

Let's see how the squad looks by the end of the transfer window.
The manager can prioritize competitions. He doesn't need to compete for every competition
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 12:36pm On Aug 20, 2020
Lana1:
Shey when i brought it up, they said it's ok for the club to owe half a billion in debts.

They've tried. They have really tried. Leemao!
They have tried when it comes to buying players but but ...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by eph12(m): 5:04am On Aug 20, 2020
donjazet:
Amidst sule's nonsensical gibberish is a salient point.
I do think we are overpaying for haverts and we know that sometimes price can become a heavy burden to a player. Just look at Sanchez and pogba and other expensive flops at man-u.
I guess the ultimate question is; is haverts worth more than 80 million? I absolutely don't think so, that kind of money will get you established stars, not "potential" stars. I mean we don't even know his specific position on the pitch.

Anyways, hoping he proves me wrong.
You should look at your keeper flop instead
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by eph12(m): 5:01am On Aug 20, 2020
Ibime:
What of your boy Ighalo earning Chinese money on Utd bench?
He took a pay cut, around 130k per week. If Cavani will agree for around this amount fine
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 4:53am On Aug 20, 2020
afrodoc2:
If it continues for too long it might. This season what he need most was senior minutes anyhow anyhow cos under 18 and under-23 were too easy for him.
Also he was not ready physically (at least pre-lockdown) to be battling with those huge CBs. Next season i expect him to start getting more minutes at CF where he can inflict maximum damage.
Yeah I want to see him at that CF position. He should find more joy there
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by eph12(m): 10:17pm On Aug 19, 2020
EarlRagnar2:
Lol we go again on Sunday
Citadel for life grin
Airmark I am proud of you cheesy cheesy
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by eph12(m): 9:47pm On Aug 19, 2020
EarlRagnar2:
That's another problem but United Chelsea can pay his wage tho.
He will demand the kind of wage you don't put on the bench
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by eph12(m): 9:45pm On Aug 19, 2020
Ibime:
If Benfica are top in the running for Cavani, his wage demands can't be that high.
Let Chelsea or United enter the picture, you will see how much his agent will be demanding
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 9:43pm On Aug 19, 2020
Lyon is the toughest opponent Bayern has faced so far
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 9:41pm On Aug 19, 2020
ChristineC:
I hope you have no mancunian neighbors if this thing must come out of your mouth in public. my hand no dey o shocked shocked shocked
LOL na dem sabi
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 8:58pm On Aug 19, 2020
Hopefully one day we will be that team that punishes others for not taking their chances and not the other way round.

Afrodoc2 won't playing Greenwood on the RW affect him? Looks like he's not really cut for that position
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by eph12(m): 8:54pm On Aug 19, 2020
EarlRagnar2:
I don't know why the Top 6 are sleeping on that guy.... Cavani will score 10 to 15 goals in a season
What about his wage?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 8:19pm On Aug 19, 2020
LOL I never even type finish smh
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 8:17pm On Aug 19, 2020
haha Lyon are not here to play o shocked shocked
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 5:49pm On Aug 19, 2020
afrodoc2:
Maybe we would have Neymar and/or Mbappe OR been able to get Ororo back. Anyway the Glazers crippled the club long ago.

Then if we go into the details of how the money was spent or misspent, they are the ones who have allowed a finance man who knows nothing about football to be in charge of our transfers.
Yeah about Ed, I wonder where they brought that guy from. He's very cunny
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 5:39pm On Aug 19, 2020
MRTA7:
Well if they dont service the debt. The banks own the club.

so its not their money.

I dont see Liverpool, City etc with the same issue.
Oh

Okay got it
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 5:38pm On Aug 19, 2020
Panther7:
Exactly
So let's say if the Glazers were to spend their own money too, we probably may have spent around 1b in the last 5 years right?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 5:33pm On Aug 19, 2020
afrodoc2:
Age, poor health and fatigue had set in. He just couldn't summon that drive and passion like before. Remember he planned on retiring earlier but changed his mind. He just wanted one last title for the road.
Also he had been coaching at a high level continuously for almost 40 yrs.
City winning the league annoyed him
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 5:32pm On Aug 19, 2020
Panther7:
Like they were able to convince the banks that they will definitely buy united instead of using their own assest as collateral, they used the club's own.
Uhm from what afrodoc2 explained, sounds like they transferred collateral or asset from whatever it was to United assets
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 5:31pm On Aug 19, 2020
afrodoc2:
They didn't own the club. Fans were planning to revolt when this happened in 04/05, and a few fans actually revolted. Manchester United had NO DEBT before the Glazers bought the club.

They loaded the club with the debt of the loans they had used to buy the club. The banks agreed because everybody knew that United would continue making money and pay back the loans with interest.
Okay I understand what happened now. Never bothered to look it up before.

Mrta7, technically who owns the club?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 5:29pm On Aug 19, 2020
afrodoc2:
They are spending enough of the money made by the club to keep the club competitive enough to keep on making money.

They have not spent any of their own money. The club they own was bought via loans to be paid back by the club.

Other clubs owned by billionaires get extra money from their owners for transfers, our own billionaires use the money the club generates to pay off debt they caused in the first place, then pay themselves huge allowances before thinking of buying players.

They know if they stop spending completely the club will run down fast and stop making money. There is a reason during Fergie's time the club was selling Ronaldo for world record fee and replacing him with Valencia and co. When he left they tried to continue the same policy with piece meal Fellaini signing until reality struck.

Let's not make the Glazers up to be some kindly and generous benefactors. They are leeches who played a major role in all that has happened post Fergie.
But I'm looking at the data now, and we have spent more than everyone in the epl except city. I think this is the major issue here and not how they bought the club or how they are spending the club's money. What I'm looking at now is how bad we have been when it comes to spending money on transfers
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 4:57pm On Aug 19, 2020
afrodoc2:
Not just that they borrowed money to buy the club. They secured the loans against the club's assets thereby incurring large interests which the club then had to (and continue to) pay.
Also, every year they award themselves millions of pounds as consultancy fees, then pay off some of the debt before using some of the money made by the club to pay for player purchase and salaries.

If you analyse this scenario they have not spent their personal money at all. Compare this with City, PSG e.t.c where the authentic billionaire owners augment club finances with their money in order to finance huge transfers.
They used the assets of the club to secure the loan? This sounds like some gangster shit. They already owned the club or how were they able to use the club assets to secure the loan used in buying the club?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 4:47pm On Aug 19, 2020
afrodoc2:
It is not that simple. The Glazers are leeches and have been taking money out of the club for years. Do you remember the details of their takeover and why we keep paying off debt every year?
Lol I know that. In as much as they have all these things going on and are running the club down, we can't accuse them of not spending money, at least in the last 5 years. I'll like to get your view on this
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 4:45pm On Aug 19, 2020
MRTA7:
Technically that's not true at all.
Really? Please explain
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 4:45pm On Aug 19, 2020
Nezzjnr:
Happily married to Mukinatu cheesy
No wonder you dey chop ban steady grin

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