European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 5:58pm On Sep 03, 2024 |
MRTA7: He wants to build from the back but with his fullbacks high and wide. Problem is those teams who build from the back invert their full backs into midfield. Eth wants his to remain high and wide to help outnumber the other teams defence. The problem is that is a terrible idea and for it to work you need the best press resistant ball carrier to pickup the ball from the defence and get it forward to either wide areas or progress it and pass it through the lines. Casemiro is the opposite of such ball carrier. Its the reason he wants Frenkie so much. From the very little I know, the midfielders have to play close to each other at all times. I don't think Frenkie or any midfielder will be happy to play like this |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 4:07pm On Sep 03, 2024 |
chrisley024: you're right. My point is about his tactics, where most of the players go forward includng CM which suits McTom well, instead of transitioning forward as a team. One of the major issues of this is lack of passing options. Its confusing. Does he want to build play from the back or he wants to play quick transition football? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 4:05pm On Sep 03, 2024 |
maik99: Only the third goal is a close down tho , no? Easy to praise Slot for having a gameplan when we were making mistakes all over the place Maybe I have forgotten how the first goal happened. I remember Case had to pass and he chose to pass forward, which was intercepted. I have not praised Slot gameplan. I only mentioned it because he spoke about it and we saw it happen. What can you say about your ETH's game plan? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 1:49pm On Sep 03, 2024 |
chrisley024: It's the reason I don't like Eth tactics. Why is Mainoo's pair, who's supposed to help in transitioning the ball to our forwards, far away from him.
Makes more sense why he wanted McTom to remain.  I'm not sure what Mctom is supposed to do in this situation? The same mctom that always hide behind players? He will most likely be getting ready to run into the LFC 18 |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 1:47pm On Sep 03, 2024 |
Mrviktor: I circled the midfielders and how they aren't giving mainoo any options..
The left winger also was occupied..
I wonder why he still choose to carry the ball towards that direction..
If u see u are closed down.. Release the ball or boot it upwards.. don't hold it like u are pogba..or Gattuso..
If u don't have that strength to hold 4 players on ur own release the ball or shoot it away.. That is why the system will set up any player to fail. You see they always want to retain possession and play from the back which is what ETH is trying to do, how do you now expect them to shoot the ball away when they are closed down when the first thing in their head is to try to beat the press? Players do lose ball, its not a new thing. The best players have lost the ball multiple times. The real question is why is your team so open anytime the players lose the ball in that position? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 12:33pm On Sep 03, 2024 |
There is a reason I have not even mentioned Casemiro name at all or any player. Slot and his team came with a game plan. Close down Case and Mainoo very fast with as many players as possible. What was ETH's plan? Anybody? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 12:31pm On Sep 03, 2024 |
Mrviktor: Mazroui was clearly in front of him..like sef mazroui right there Which of those two you circled Mazroui? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 12:31pm On Sep 03, 2024 |
4 whole players around him with some to spare on the options he had. Makes you wonder if LFC had more than 11 eleven players on the field or ETH is just very useless |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 12:29pm On Sep 03, 2024 |
Ellexy: But they told us one of his strong assets is his ability to scan spaces around him. Yes. Did you see those two players in the space around hi? Look around him and tell me what you can see |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 10:23am On Sep 03, 2024 |
But Slot is bad. See as the players surrounded Mainoo. Even the ones they said he should be able to see and pass too behind him have players close to them and will dispossess them before the ball even gets to them |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 10:22am On Sep 03, 2024 |
Mrviktor: Someone that doesn't watch football will think we are attacking on the right... Even mainoo had chance to pass the ball here.. I know Mainoo should have eyes on the back of his head to see those behind him as the superstar he is. Don't mind them |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 6:45am On Sep 03, 2024 |
engrelvis: kobbie Mainoo is nothing special... just one season wonder. His game this season has been completely useless. Yes Casemiro is reckless but oga mainoo is not helpin mata at all. Dnt really know y Arambat was sent back. If Amrabat was here, would he bench Mainoo? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 6:43am On Sep 03, 2024 |
Ellexy: BREAKING, Omar Berrada:
"Erik has our full backing and we’ve worked very closely together in this transfer window. We're going to continue working very closely with him to help him get the best results out of the team."
[@ChrisWheelerDM]
The dreaded Vote of Confidence  Very good. Makes everything sweeter |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 6:06pm On Sep 02, 2024 |
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 5:19pm On Sep 02, 2024 |
YourBestWriter: Oga what happened yesterday was different from last season and even the first two games of this season sef.
Anybody with sharp football eyes will see that what Ten Hag was doing was far away from the project 10 years. He was absolutely clueless and it will be permanent because I don't see him bringing any new ideas to return to the way. He looked afraid of the players.
It was very clear for all to see. So you're saying what caused your breakdown yesterday was just one match out of about 90 over the last 2 years? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 5:16pm On Sep 02, 2024 |
Ellexy: Rashford actually played wey better than Garnacho yesterday. Zirkzee squandered 2 easy chances that Rashford put on a plate for him.
Having said that, Amad should have started over Garnacho. The later has just been playing rubbish. We only saw Rashford when the match was over yeah? He was probably conserving his energy |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 5:07pm On Sep 02, 2024 |
maik99: There was no reason for agenda in the first two games. Yesterday’s game was absolutely abysmal and those are the kind of things that should be called out
Any other thing is stupidity The funny thing is that what happened yesterday is not different from what happened for majority of last season and even the first season. So I'm not sure why this one is different for you |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 3:38pm On Sep 02, 2024 |
odizeey: After they finish capping, they will stylishly start blending with the crowd He has won two trophies, so after Pep, he has done better than all the teams combined in epl  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 2:09pm On Sep 02, 2024 |
maik99: Ten Hag was atrocious yesterday Were you not the one that asked people to be crying the other day?  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 2:03pm On Sep 02, 2024 |
Leyqute: Defensive issues. Don’t care where it started from. Midfield or attack or defense I get you |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 11:37am On Sep 02, 2024 |
Leyqute: If ETH is wise, the first issue to solve is the defensive issue. After that, you sort the attack.
Cos how will you be swallowing goals like eba while your attacking taktiks are worth naught? You mean the midfield? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 11:32am On Sep 02, 2024 |
melodyogonna: Knew Rashford was being isolated LFC were always going to be stronger and more technical in the midfield, so how on earth did ETH allow that huge gap between bruno and our two CM? If he wants to play this way, then abandon the so called playing out of the back and boot the ball up field so that we have 4 of our players contesting for the ball. He wants to keep the ball and play of the back, but he is playing 424. I'm just so happy that he is still here and everyone is gradually seeing his uselessness in 4K |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 9:27pm On Sep 01, 2024 |
Slot really capitalized on a known United problem that ETH has refused to solve because he is too stubborn to see it. He solved that problem in the last matches of last season but he has resumed his useless tactics. Having a defense that can play out of the back is not enough, there has to be enough options in the midfield to receive the balls from the defenders. ETH needs his three midfielders opening spaces to receive the ball from the defense. Even the attackers are supposed to join depending on who we are playing against. Its just laziness on the players part if they are not able to come into our half to receive the ball and get into threatening positions when we beat the press. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 5:47pm On Sep 01, 2024 |
Mrviktor: I've seen enough to see that.
He's like felani..
But we don't even cross the ball... Rashford was doing that at some point. We came so close then |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 5:42pm On Sep 01, 2024 |
They should keep the crosses coming to Zirk. He will learn and get better, hopefully |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 5:42pm On Sep 01, 2024 |
chrisley024: the guy's setup leaves the team vulnerable always. I'm tired of him n don't see any advantage sticking with him No single advantage. He is bad, his system is bad. The fact that we became worse after two years should tell everyone that he is bad news. We can't point to one single exciting thing he has added to the team in two years |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 5:35pm On Sep 01, 2024 |
I like as ETH is still here. By the time he leaves, there will be no doubt that he is a fraud |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 5:25pm On Sep 01, 2024 |
YourBestWriter: IF TEN HAG DOESN'T HAVE THE MIND TO SELL THESE AVERAGE PLAYERS LIKE FERNANDES, ZIRKZEE, RASHFORD, AND CO, THEN ANOTHER COACH THAT HAS THE MIND TO DO THE NEEDFUL SHOULD BE APPOINTED.
YES, AT THIS POINT, TEN HAG SHOULD BE SACKED.
THE PROJECT 10 YEARS LOOKS LIKE IT IS UNACHIEVABLE UNDER TEN HAG AND THE PRESSURE IS TOO MUCH FOR HIM.
THE TIME IS NOW. AFTER THIS MATCH. LMAOOOOOOOO abeg ETH is going nowhere |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 5:24pm On Sep 01, 2024 |
raumdeuter: On top all the players una sign plus management, plus DOF plus even steal Omar Berrada And it doesn't even look like LFC are sweating or having to do too much |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 5:21pm On Sep 01, 2024 |
This system will always look for scapegoats. Once one leave, another becomes the scapegoat |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 5:08pm On Sep 01, 2024 |
Jamiuokolaa: But he himself no dey help matters na
See his nonsense languid style - how would it benefit a team that's clearly struggling in attack?
He also seems to be "box 18 shy" 
Mehn - e be like say na comedy mode we dey this season A new player is more likely to fail than succeed under ETH |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 5:06pm On Sep 01, 2024 |
Leyqute: Zirkzee was our first signing and he didn’t go with the team for preseason. The guy played just 4 mins in the Euros and immediately he signed he went on a holiday.
He’s not close to match fitness at all. If De Ligt had to be gradually introduced until he was ready, why is he rushing Zirkzee? He’s too slow FFS, especially for an attacker. Exactly my point. ETH and his system will ruin him to the extent that he won't be able to recover and will be sold off. It would have been much easier for him and his confidence if he sees a lot of the ball. But this ETH style can't allow him see enough of the ball to understand the team and how the attack should operate |