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AdisaOwala:
While this is rather unfortunate, I think it's still better than giving managers the excuse of "ah, the Glaziers no wan spend money, na why we fail"

yes it is

For me, the boards fault have always been lack of direction, handing out contracts like father christmas. These two have played a major role in why we have struggled these past years. But when you accuse the board of not spending money, I don't think that's correct. Maybe they can be accused of overspending inappropriately.

AdisaOwala:
For me, I think the major fault with the board is that for whatever reasons, they haven't managed to get it right with the managers they hire.We hope ETH proves to be an exception

In terms of support, it would be hypocritical to say that they haven't done enough.

This is even a board that gives managers 100% free hand to recruit players with virtually zero intervention.

Oh well - it's easier to say "Glazier out" without carefully analysing the situation with available facts

I share same sentiment. I think I have mentioned this before. We tend to hire managers without considering style of play or long term. I think its now they're trying to do that after watching city take over the EPL. We have always hired managers with different philosophies. From Moyes to Van Gaal to Mourinho to Ole.

AdisaOwala:
At the start of his tenure, Moyes was practically interested in Fellaini and Baines only - he got the Belgian and Mata (during the January TW) for a combined fee of about 60m - a lot of money as at 2013 before he got booted out after 10months...




The following players were signed during Mourinho's Regime...

1. Romeu Lukaku

2. Eric Bailey

3. Zlatan Ibrahimovic

3. Henrik Mikytarian

4. Alexis Sanchez

5. Paul Pogba

6. Victor Lindelof

7. Diego Dalot

8. Fred

9. Nemanja Matic

Total cost of about 370m



The following players were signed during Ole's regime..

1. Bruno Fernandes

2. Edison Cavani

3. Cristiano Ronaldo

4. Aaron Wan Bissaka

5. Jaydon Sancho

6. Dan James

7. Harry Maguire

8. Raphael Varane

9. Amad Diallo

Total cost is about 440m


Man UTD signings under LVG

1. Memphis Depay

2. Anthony Martial

3. Angel Di Maria

4. Marcos Rojo

5. Luke Shaw

6. Morgan Schnerderlin

7. Sergio Romero

8. Victor Valdez

9.Ander Herrera

10. Radamel Falcao

11. Matteo Darmian

12. Bastian Schweinsteiger

Total spend is about 290m

All these players were gotten with the full approval of the respective managers at the helm of affairs..

As stated earlier, there is no perfect system anywhere.

Even the Bayern Munichs, Citys, Real Madrids etc haven't always gotten the exact players they wanted at every point in time.

We can continue to blame the top management all we want but the records are there for all to see...

When the players fail to live up to their hype, they blame the board. The board may not be as swift as we like but those guys spend a lot of money. The records are there for everyone to see

Leyqute:
Why did Pep sign Haaland and Graelish for 100m after winning the league? Why didn’t he use his old team to achieve the same thing?

Or is Fellaini of the same quality as Haaland or Graelish?

Mind you, Pep didn’t just join City when he made these signings.

Pep didn't buy Haaland and Graelish same season. Pep's target was the champions league. Moyes didn't have that target.

Leyqute:
Did they also change managers?

Why can't the manager work with the team that just won the league and guide them to a reasonable to position first, then you build from there?

ChristineC:
still need quality depth. a good first eleven can only get you so far, especially at the business end of the season.

as it stands, we have Maguire as back up to Varane. Maguire may yet leave. Sancho is looking like the back up CF for next season. Martial will be unavailable as usual. a Greenwood return will shore up the CF and RW quality but we are yet to get a concrete evidence on that. we also hope there's improvement in quality for Shaw's back up options.

This is a good start. If the first team are able to do that job properly and the team play as a team with all seriousness, we can comfortably make 3+ changes every match game with those we have on the bench.

We will have Sancho, Garnacho, Maguire, Lindelof, Maino, Dalot, Eriksen, Fred, Tom, Malacia, Amad, Pellistri etc. I believe we can manage quite very okay this season. But we really need to start selling

Leyqute:
So, a summer transfer of Marouane Fellaini alone for a new manager means supportive in your own books?

The team just won the title. We have seen top clubs buy just 1 or 2 players in a summer transfer window

Leyqute:
Is this a joke or is “to the best of their abilities” a new euphemism for incompetency?

Cos I don’t see how a lone summer transfer of Marouane Fellaini can be deemed supportive for Nwoyes.

If they were that supportive, why did Mourinho give them a public headbutt because they didn’t get him Magwaya?

I still remember the time people here accused Ole of having no transfer list, (or having Sancho only on his list) because these guys chased him for the whole window “to the best of their abilities” and even failed to get him in the end.

This is the first time in many years that we’ll be getting new players BEFORE the season starts.

If we get Amrabat, this will have been a very good window- just like the last one has been, but much better. The onus will then be on EtH to deliver (because I still don’t get the Mount transfer.

Yes, it’s commendable. But it’s too early to get carried away. It doesn’t mean that we’ve been having sensible TWs the past decade. Neither does it mean that the “top management have always supported our coaches to the best of their abilities”.

Until we check total spend, net spend etc and see how high we rank

AdisaOwala:
Not sure Amrabat is a key part of his transfer plans

Make we dey see sha

Hmm there's no style ETH wants to play that the midfield won't be key. He should rethink this thing o

AdisaOwala:
Truth is that the top management has always supported our coaches to the best of their capabilities....

Of course there would always be opportunities for improvement but heck - there is no perfect system anywhere.

ETH has his work cut out for him this season - the margins for excuses are getting smaller by the minute and he just has to prove his mettle and show that his appointment was not a mistake.

We have had this argument a couple of times. Many will still swear that the club does not buy players but our problem hasn't really been buying of players but getting the right players and keeping them hungry for success

Leyqute:
TL;DR: Open heart surgery

With a gun pointed at your head. Nowhere to run. No Ronaldo distraction this season.

Omo if Amrabat comes in, that will be about 9 first team players ETH have bought in about a year, not counting the two on loan last season. Now this is some revelation

Greenwood comes back as good as new. Maino promoted, counted as new too. LMAO all he needs to do now is to train the team to play as he wants them to

Leyqute:
Barca are really dealing with them.

Barca started both halves very strong, but Madrid gain control as the match progresses

TeslaFC:
Honestly, I don’t think there’ll be a “comeback” for him from this irrespective of how good he performs.

He just has to lock out the noise, be strong-headed like CR7 (or Onana ) and get the work done.

Unless he wants to forget about football, he needs to develop thick skin

TeslaFC:
Greenwood’s real issue will most likely not be about speed or fitness, rather mental strength.

Sponsors approving his return won’t stop opposition fans (and some Man Utd fans) from raining insults on him match in match out.

You're correct. I hope they can identify and ban any of our fans that join to troll him

Is this Barca vs real Madrid match still a friendly?

Leyqute:
Even if he starts training with the first team today sef, I don’t think he’ll be ready in a month.

Dude hasn’t played at the top level for like 20 months. His return won’t be like a snap of the finger.

The skill may be there, but I have doubt about the speed and fitness. May take him a month or two to get up to speed

patrickmuf:
It's time to sign Amrabat...

If we sign Amrabat and Greenwood comes back then I'll be very confident going into the new season.

Signing a defender will depend on whether or not Maguire leaves.

Greenwood hasn't played for how long now? Let's relax o

Expert17:
Mention 3 clubs in EPL with better midfield players..

What we need is serious coaching, that was how Sterling and co were world class at Man City until they left Etihad.

City, Arsenal

Expert17:
Werey leave me 🤣

I don leave you for now. Just continue to gather your receipts sha because you go need am

patrickmuf:
We do not need options better than McFred but options that can go toe-to-toe against KDB, Odegaard, Mac Allister, Kimmich, Gundogan etc.

Help me tell the expert

Expert17:
Yes Mr. Fred, I can't help your slow brain 🤣🤣🤣

I can see that you have ditched transitions for work rate. You go explain tire

AdisaOwala:
I also think it was a terrible idea for him to take that legendary shirt.

Time would tell sha

Ole made some bad decisions as the manager and ETH is doing same already.

Expert17:
I understand your frustrations, it's not easy to stan Fred 🤣

Once the team understands the tactics ehn, the transitions from Onana to Mount will be very mad. We won't even need the midfield. We can't wait to experience this

Oladeji245:
He has been good on the ball,surprisingly press resistant and he presses as well. Was one of our better players in the first half.
Only problem was he wasn’t on the ball enough, maybe due to eriksen.
In this game,Eriksen was the problem not mount.
Not worried at all about mount.

He needs to create quality chances to justify his position on the team. What we will not accept is blaming others for his lack of influence.

Expert17:
U don't understand football from day 1, because why will someone rate Fred 🤣🤣🤣

If you don't understand my post, ask for help 😂

Onana to Mount transition. GGMU

Oladeji245:
Mount has been decent. Maybe unspectacular but I don’t understand the negativity.

Erm decent in what exactly? What should we expect from Mount in our matches? What exactly is he bringing to the table?

AdisaOwala:
What is this again?

Anyways, na still pre-season...the manager is still trying to perfect his tactics and the players are striving to attain the right fitness levels..

Remember Amrabat is still coming

Let's be positive

There's evidence na

I'm positive

Leyqute:
I actually think Arsenal got a better result than us in the previous game. It’s not about the results.

Our play was disjointed and tardy. I want to put it down to a lack of fitness. Or maybe ETH was gunning for something else. Or the Nainoo injury.

If our play was that disjointed, then RM was worse. For most part of the game, they depended on their pacy attack because they couldn't keep the ball.

Oladeji245:
Some people just like moaning for moaning sake.
United played well,unlike previous years when all we do against big teams is seat back.
We were competitive and created chances,had more possession including the first half.
It wasn’t like if Madrid completely dominated us or something and the first goal was offside. And overall it’s a preseason game.

The team really played above expectations for me.

ChristoBam:
The match was what I was hoping a friendly with a top side like that would look like.
We didn't have a striker and it was obvious
Bruno was played out of position and it was obvious

I hate the type of friendlies you'll play against top sides with these obvious deficiencies and still win convincingly like against Arsenal.

Let season start now, make we go Emirates, you'll meet a totally different thing.

Maybe it's stubbornness or lack of options because I don't know why a coach will continue to do the same thing over and over with no result. Which match has Bruno ever shone from the wings? I don't understand.

I hope the loss will push the manager to intensify search for more key players in the team.