₦airaland Forum

TippyTop:
Even Punch newspapers don kukuma join wailers

hylyne:
He would soon change his ID on nairaland...

Fifthcolumnist:


I always had the irking that this day would come. Here it is finally

Bolster:
I can't hold Buhari accountable for this. He's just been there in about 24 months. None of those foreign countries you use as references built what they have in 24 months. However, if you're talking about the leaders we had in the last 16 years then I agree we need to hold them accountable. But not Buhari, at least not on the issue of lack of world class hospital in Nigeria.

eezeribe:
One of the 'saints' appointed by Buhari...
Karma is just making mockery of Buhari...
Everything he said or did,ranging from media castigation against the then incumbent President GEJ,to his one sided appointments,have all Boomeranged on Him and his government.
APC has not been able to improve on any single aspect of the PDP led Government,rather everything has gone from bad to worse,be it economy,fuel price,power supply,security,value of our local currency,price of commodities,etc... The list is endless.

ISTANDWITHBUHAR:
When last did you ask after your father? hahaha

Leave another people father alone to rest..... The last time i check no one care about your existence even your BF or hubby hahah..

VULCAN:
Actually, you were.

But having read all you have written I understand that you're the type that pretends to know it all so that you can be the loudest voice in the room.

Its OK, I agree with you that you are more versed in Economic matters than the previous CBN Governor so that's why his storied evaluation of our economic challenges is wrong and yours is correct. I apologise for doubting your erudite economic curriculum vitae

Now I hope that makes you happy.

People that have an overwhelming need to prove themselves in the midst of others most likely suffer from some sort of inferiority complex.

Thank God at least you didn't lie that you have formal training on Financial or Economic matters so I presume you learnt all you know from the internet or perhaps just listening to Kemi Adeosun.

But like I said Tow the APC line all you like. Every employer of labour in the private sector knows that a Manager who cannot correct the wrongs of the previous Manager won't be a Manager for very long.

I notice that you are unable to provide solutions to the current quaqmire so your armchair economic prowess can't deliver much outside of criticism of the previous govt.

Tell your APC masters not to bother to improve the economy as they promised us but just to reverse it to the "disaster" that they met it. Then we can take it from there.

Bolster:
This is where you got it wrong. If using other country's facilities will save his life and he has the privilege to use it, then there's absolutely nothing wrong with that. The death of the President have more consequences on the economy of the country than the death of another citizen. Harsh, but that's the truth. So everything, and I mean everything will be done to preserve his or her life. That's leadership.

Meanwhile don't confuse eating Ikorodu coconut instead of that imported from Bahamas with medical treatment. Big difference my dear. Consuming Made in Nigeria doesn't mean the President should unnecessarily risk his good health and life. Big difference.

Bolster:
Yes don't blame Buhari for that. And in a way you're right you can blame Nigerians that consistently kept voting the most corrupt party in the history of Nigeria for 16 years.

Meanwhile, you really don't understand the difference between rights and privileges. Yes every Nigerians have same inalienable rights to good health care for example, but we don't all have same privileges. You will be living in a fool's paradise if you think you have same privileges and entitlements as the President of a country. No my dear it is not obtainable anywhere in the world.

Go to the more developed nations, do you think the President visit same hospital as the rest of the citizens? That's the power of privileges. Even the rich and the poor don't visit same hospitals. Again, privileges (provided by wealth).

The President have planes at his disposal to travel anywhere. Do every citizen in the country have such planes at our disposal? No. Again privileges. The President of any nation moves around with stern-looking armed guards. Do you or I have such guards when we go out? No. Again privileges. The rich may be able to afford guards, but the poor can't. Again, privileges (provided by wealth).

Again in all nations of the world, the No 1 citizens of those countries have privileges the rest of the citizens don't and can't have. It's NORMAL.

Bolster:
That's the hypocrisy I was talking about. Do Nigeria have the hospital that befits a President? No. Is it a shame on Nigeria? Yes. Does President Buhari have to pay with his life to prove a point? Of course not. If we don't have a befitting presidential hospital, the standard he could get else, does President have to refuse to go there to get well? No, expect you have myopic thinking process.

Refusing to go for the best available treatment is NOT patriotism but stupidity. As the President of a nation, agreeing to go to substandard hospital and risking your life is not dignity but stupidity. So let's not confuse patriotism with stupidity.

Let's build a world class health care system and hospitals first, so that when our leaders still opt for medical tourism we can talk about patriotism and dignity, until then there is absolutely nothing wrong in the President, the No 1 citizen of Nigeria going anywhere in the world to have the best available medical treatment.

And don't blame President Buhari for lack of such world class hospital, he's just been there for 24 months.

DrGoodman:
Because a particular ethnic group wants to be vee pee, that's all.

Ezedon:
If he presides, I will climb high tension pole

obailala:
Firstly, like I said before, budget figures can change for different reasons; we aren't talking of a single item like fuel cost or cutlery or feeding cost, we're talking of a whole ministry (as I would prefer to view the presidency). And remember things like the EFCC, DSS, NSA, NIA, BPE, Amnesty Programme etc 'I think' are all under the presidency budget. So if there's a plan for a project in a particular budget year, for instance I think there was a plan to build an EFCC HQ, things like that could explain a leap in the allocation to that ministry. So yeah, the presidency's budget is higher, but that isn't enough reason or basis to make any conclusions until you bring details of the breakdown.

Secondly, I stand by my word that it is usually the former admin that always sticks out its neck each time for ridicule; most of the things you tag 'blame' are more often than not, just responses to the provocative comments/criticisms by the last admin against the current guys... And when I say last admin, it also includes its supporters and sympathisers who keep bringing up GEJ's name trying to beatify him and making undue comparisons. As a typical example, the only reason I'm talking of GEJ now on this thread is cos, after reading the Op of this thread where Peter Obi mentioned the need for saving, I read a comment by someone claiming that GEJ dearly wanted to save but the trio of Amaechi, Fashola and Oshiomole made sure GEJ couldn't save. Ignorant comments like that are what give rise to GEJ bashings cos I couldn't help but set the record straight. And yeah, its not just the supporters, even former shameless officials like Omokri etc keep jumping online making similar ridiculous comparisons which eventually just put GEJ on the spotlight.

Ezedon:
good, lets watch and see

hernandson:
epic savage bro "watched it on youtube*" damn that's cold

Ezedon:
If he presides, I will climb high tension pole

bignero:
Oga u always try to hard to impress

Just shut up, empty barrels always making the most noise..by fire by force using English to impress who kwan? By force English isn't intelligence

danmasani101:
Hybrid zombie, won't you blame past govt??

obailala:
Sorry dear, it's always necessary to read and understand the basis of an argument before joining to give your opinion. But you are forgiven, cos we all guilty of jumping into arguments without reading at one time or the other.

Secondly, budget figures can change for different reasons, there might be a need to fund a particular project and that could easily change the budget figure for a ministry or parastatal or the presidency (which includes EFCC, DSS etc). So saying the presidency budget changed from 6bn to 39bn without highlighting details of why, that's an empty diversionary comment.

Thirdly, the over the roof borrowing is simply because of the low government income. I just read a report which stated that only roughly 50% of monthly revenue target was achieved in January 2017, that explains the reason behind the wild borrowing to stay afloat. And yeah, it's still not enough, even when Nigeria was making all the billions from high oil prices, how many projects could government commission?... Yet you expect a miracle now when revenue is low?...

And lest I forget, the main reason behind the blame game is cos the incompetent thieving rogues who plundered the nation and exposed us to the current crisis still have the guts to shamelessly keep opening their smelly mouths to blame the current govt which is struggling without success to resuscitate the comatose economy they handed over. Most of the blame game you see is purely in RESPONSE to criticism coming from the very same old rogues. Just to clarify, the only reason I'm talking about GEJ now is cos the dude I quoted erroneously, provocatively and ignorantly quoted that GEJ wanted to save but that Amaechi and co stopped him from saving.

Slurity:
All in my list are manufactured in Nigeria. try leave your village and come to Lagos, Ogun, or Oyo state

Bolster:
No, normal practice everywhere is for the No 1 citizens to have privileges other citizens don't and can't have. Why are citizens ready to take the bullets for the President? The title. The office. The privilege. No 1 citizens are NEVER same with other citizens, don't fool yourself. Yes, same inalienable rights but NOT same privileges.

Why is the US taxpayers paying for Donald Trump security and protection as he goes to his own Club at Mar-a-Lago every weekend to play golf when Camp David the usual US President country retreat is there? Privilege.

Do you think if Trump or Theresa May or Angel Merkel or Putin is sick these leaders will be attended to at the same usual hospital every other citizens go to? Of course not. These are leaders. They will get the best doctors, the most equipped hospital and the best facilities.

The question now is do we have in Nigeria the same standard of hospital that Trump will go in the US? No we don't. Do we have in Nigeria same standard of hospital Putin will be treated in if his sick in Russia? No we don't. Is it President Buhari's fault that we don't have such standard of hospital in Nigeria? Of course not because he had only ruled for 2 years and you can't have such standard of hospital befitting a President developed within just 2 years.

Let's not be myopic and hypocritical about this. If for 16 years the past administrations couldn't develop a world class hospital in Nigeria befitting a President, don't blame President Buhari's for that. You know who to blame.

eezeribe:
While CBN is frustrating importers of raw materials...
DMB's are frustrating SME's...
EFCC is frustrating the Opposition...
Senate is frustrating Magu...
Customs boss is frustrating senate..
Fayose is frustrating APC...
APC is frustrating Nigerians...
Recession is frustrating the economy...
Inflation is frustrating the Naira..
MTN and Etisalat are frustrating their workers...
Oba of Lagos is frustrating Ooni of Ife...
Kano state Government is frustrating Emir of kano...
PMB is frustrating the 5%..
ILL health is frustrating PMB..
This shows that in Nigeria,no body is above frustration.