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GeneralDae:
Read this job advert below for instance. It's an example of the adverts you'll find a lot on indeed and linkedin. Masters as a qualification is usually required even at entry level. But there are many jobs that may also take just a Bachelor's degree or Ausbildung ( vocational training).
Ausbildung (vocational training) is popular in Germany and enough for mostly technicians not engineers in the academic sense.

https://de.indeed.com/m/viewjob?jk=1401586a28ca5510&from=serp&prevUrl=https%3A%2F%2Fde.indeed.com%2Fm%2Fjobs%3Fq%3DChemical%2BEngineer

Ok that's interesting, down here they rather train graduates or encourage people to qualify on the job Experience is valued more here.

GeneralDae:
Germany

as an Expert?

GeneralDae:
All the jobs I see especially for Engineering require masters. More like 80%.
Chemical Engineering, Electrical Engineering, Mechanical Engineering, etc.

in the uk?

GeneralDae:
You are so wrong.

Wrong as how, plz show me one of them high end jobs that requires masters the way we pain it in Nigeria, I got 3 degrees and I don't earn with any of them rather Im working with my vocational qualifications.

GeneralDae:
It's not 50%, it's 42%.

Nobody pays 442% on their basic earning in the EU. Even the Uk who have 40% PAYE is capped at after £50k mark

GeneralDae:
Oga there are many jobs in Germany at the moment whereby English alone is sufficient especially in the tech area.

Ok those who aint in the Tech industry nah weetin dem 4 do nah?

GeneralDae:
To be honest things have changed within the last two years. Germany now accept lots of Tech guys who can't speak German at all and it has been massive this year.
In 2018, your arguement would have been much more valid but not 2021.

I never said they dont, I was working there for two years once upon a time and ofcos I dont speak German, .What Im saying is simple, for a migrant to move fast they need to learn how to speak the language if not it will become a barrier at some point. I was o n contract and I know that I'm returning to the Uk so it did not matter if I spoke the language or not more so if you are an expert not matter.

thebosstrevor1:
You can't say because there are expatriates and english courses in a non english speaking country that mean there are opportunities for English speakers. Between not all expatriates understand English language.

In many European universities, there are programs in English, the reason for this is to attract international students, most international students who fall into the trap of going for those courses, end up been isolated because at the end of their program, they can't speak the native language or understand the local culture which limit their opportunities in those countries.

Expatriates are not immigrants, they do not come to seek opportunities rather they are sent by their company to another country maybe to get more skills, more exposure and international experience, after their term expires, they go back home while an immigrant is in that country to better his life it will be insane if that immigrants does not learn the local language and culture, how is that individual going to get a better life or even advance in his career.

This was what I was driving at someone very clever said i should keep quiet! I did two years there I could just see how life will be tough if I was to settle there with little or no German.

vikstandon:
Everything is expensive in Germany... You pay big time for Data to browse, you pay a lot more taxes, but by and large their Economy is better than Nigeria.... The thing is, you can't live better than the life of a foreigner!

Name one tax you know pls

uwemetok:
... and jump to a conclusion that a used 2018 car isn’t supposed to cost that much .

make we wait the Toyota gang, dem go soon reach here

uwemetok:
Foreign Used 2018 BMW 530i with CENDE EXHAUST SYSTEM now available for purchase.

-Custom Duty Paid.
-43k Miles.

Price: 26,000,000.00

Location: Area 11, Garki, Abuja.

Call/WhatsApp: 08072765773.

Somebody somewhere will wake up and compare this with Toyota camry and Honda accord ok!

swisster:
Hey Buddy, I live in Germany and I am doing great. From your post, it is obvious you want to go to Germany without a purpose.

could you shed a bit of light into the topic of living life less stressful without speaking any German

GreatrAnalyst:
I didn't even see your replies to him until now. Some of the things you said here, I have equally said.
Are there not graduate schools that offer their courses in English? Are there not international companies which have expatriates working in them? And so many things I have tried to explain to his ilks. But I guess, he who wants to remain ignorant does so at his own discretion and choice. Now I know why some people just choose not to argue on this platform. Some people's ignorance cries to the high heavens.

ALl those thngs you said are there,ofcos there are English speaking coys of multi nationals, they ones I worked with spoke English, well fairly as they have to deal with my company from England. Our contract was for two years, So I learnt much, Now the crux is this Not being able to speak German and write German will limit you by up to 60%,Progrerss is going to be real slow. Even to get the full rights to live there you got to speak and write the language!, But I am interested in talking to a professional on NL who lives and work in Germany and dont speak German.
PS listen to waleochronicles on youtube, i think she throws more lights on this.

Joysticks:
How is that a greed?If the grass is greener they won't be committing crime.

cos u can live a modest life without crime but they chose the other!

armyofone:
Being able to go on vacation is a sign of wealth
No be person wey chop belleful dey travel and lodge in fancy hotel for R&R and sight seeing doing jangulova for Disney, 6 flags or go see gorilla,peacocks etc for zoo

Not really, when I was younger me and some friends done back packing across 6 EU countries B4 on pocket Budget trust me, it was easy and cheap

fieryy:
I think you should keep quite then and let those who are in Germany speak about THEIR LIVED experiences.

I think that's quite rude of you to ask me to keep quiet.This is a very backward way of raising your argument and stern lack of moral upbringing. GERMANY IS TWO hours from my house, I worked on a contract there for 2 years and you are here being disrespectful!

fieryy:
Where in Germany are you and do you work in the IT field?

nah I'm not in Germany, I live in London but work had carried me to loads of cities in Europe, I am a fluid Engineer!

Gerrard59:
But seriously, how many Nigerians are there in Germany and France? Compared to Ireland and the UK, why should Nigerians enter those professions enmass when the population is very low? If you had asked how many Senegalese in French military forces and the number is low, one would understand.

This is basic maths.

U dnt get it, let me then rephrase it for lack of good word, howmany BLACKS! ie from the whole Africa

bepositive11:
That's like general knowledge. Imagine having to pay that much in taxes. Off goes 50% of your net worth

DO you even know what 50% means??

Dextre:
Is this about Germany in particular or the western world in general cos if this is about western world in general, I don’t know what to say o, I’ll just prefer my own kid grow away from this area at all cost

Germany in particular

vickydevoka:
I telling u from knowledge.

Well I asked a simple question cos I'm not taking what you read on prints cos I have been

johnmartus:
Oshodi terminal is more than all the projects that have been executed in the whole of southeast since return of democracy ... I am not joking you can prove me wrong.

Airport dey Oshodi

thebosstrevor1:
You can continue to deceive others but not me with your rant of so called minimum wages of a master holder and mimum wages software engineers are receiving.

Germany isn't the United states and doing a masters isn't that important especially in that industry, what is important is knowledge of german language and experience.

Infact in the german tech industry, they don't need that your stupid masters degree to get a job..neither do they even need certificate.
Stop hyping yourself in that stupid country.

Thats how it is in the west, they pay no notice to certificate, infact I have never seen a JOB that requires you to be masters degree holder

fieryy:
Lmaoooooooooooo. No, meetings take place in English as well.

Im not saying it dnt, but that English is limited, its like saying Im having a meeting in England but speaking German

vickydevoka:
Did you know that more than 50% of Germans speak good English.

That's y if u hear Chelsea n Liverpool Coach de speak effortlessly. Even German players speak very well

Have you lived and worked in Germany B4?

fieryy:
German isn't necessary if you're working in tech.

ok now how about you need to ha e a zoom meeting?u lot just talk.of your position is so valuable then yes it does not matter as they will ha e to employ an intepreter as they do with football managers and players.

calebfm:
the problem with those people wey you mention be say, dem lazy to learn their language. If you no sabi German, you no fit work there. But their language had small too o but if you learn the language b4 leaving, rest assured, you go make am there.

for your mind you can learn the language and be able to fill an online application form and write a CV in German abi??

bepositive11:
That's like general knowledge. Imagine having to pay that much in taxes. Off goes 50% of your net worth

I want xplanation ahaha

Gee64:
If you go there illegally, you go suffer ehn so tey you go wish you didn't abandon your family here.

Almost 80% of persons who travel abroad do so illegally cos at some point you must have given some untrue account of your self,
I come in peace!

bepositive11:
His point is valid. Taxes are very high in Germany, up to 50%. The companies you mentioned are big corporates. Smaller businesses find it harder

Germany is not a place for capitalism. The country is built on socialism

and you know about this 50% tax cos

Cashsteady:
Germany is a very nice country and by far one of the best in Europe the only problem there is high taxation.. just like UK too them go use task finish your life.. even most Germans prefer to live in other European countries like France.. if I was you I would either go to other countries like France or Netherlands those countries ain't doing bad

Name one tax U pay in the Uk and Germany that you do not pay in Nigeria!

EgunMogaji2:
I’m actively shopping for imported tiles and I don’t want to be bothering them. But them don tell me to shut up sha - we mooove.

We move ohhhh