₦airaland Forum

seanet02:
of course you can never want Fashola for two obvious reasons. 1. Anybody from YORUBA land that is intelligent is the type of person you shift your hatred towards. 2. You obviously want to shield the fact that Rivers state gets more allocation than Lagos state, yet[b] Fashola will dust Amaechi any day any time when it comes to good governance, dividends of democracy and poverty alleviation.[/b] Next. . . . . . . .

And also when it comes to dodgy contracts.

@ Fstranger and Seanet

Festus Adedayo was appointed a special adviser to the Enugu state govt in 2005 by Chimaroke Nnamani. Go ask around. It's not a lie.

fstranger3:
^^^^

My point is that who else should I put down for our claim department to further investigate

No one. Thanks.

^^^
His name being of Igbo origin does not mean he must be Igbo.
Some of my relatives changed their last name to that of a bini origin, yet they are proudly Igbo.

Dude, what exactly is your point?

fstranger3:
^^^

SO is it Peter Ekeh's turn to be claimed?

How do we start?

For what? I did say he is Urhobo or Isoko. Do you have a comprehension problem?

@ Physics

You are right when you say that 'Okoro' as a name is not exclusive to Igbos. You of all people should know that the Igbos, Binis, Urhobos, Isokos, Itshekiris used to have trades and wars among themselves before the advent of the British, hence the shared word. That however does not mean that a shared word has no original source.

For example, Essence(the nigerian singer) bears Okoro as her family name, yet she's Itshekiri by tribe. 

The article you posted as to the origin of the name 'okoro' is a debate for  another day. But with the versatility that name is used in Igbo, I can bet it's of Igbo origin(okonkwo, okoronkwo, okoroafor, okafor, etc). No other groups using this name have different forms of the same name like this.

Additionally, the author Peter Ekeh is an Urhobo(maybe Isoko) man who was trying to be one-sided towards disclaiming an Igbo origin to the name. I'm sure if you ask him, he wouldn't even know that his own last name is still of Igbo origin.

komando7:
@ T9ksy
Listen you: Igbos turned Alaba from a village top a city. If Igbo were to abandon Lagos today, imagine what will happen top places like Alaba. Igbos are the most important contributors to tax in Lagos. Go ask fashola. [b]A commisioner in Fasholas government is my brother. [/b]Fashola appreciates Igbos.

Igbos were the first to appoint a Yoruba into a government position in 2005, before Tinubu followed suit. No big deal.

Amechi I can stand for presidency, but Fashola never.

Fashola is not a man of his own. I dont want Tinubu ruling Nigeria by proxy. Mr. Olowolafe contractor.

Justcash:
[b]Ofcourse as a PDP member, he'd wish for his party to have Lagos state.

"SOUTH WEST IS TOO SOPHISTICATED TO BE LEFT IN THE HANDS OF RASCALS.", This statement is the reason for the whole issue that was raised.

Now to say SOUTH WEST IS TOO SOPHISTICATED means that he gat a high regard for the south west.  The fact that he said "TO BE LEFT IN THE HANDS OF RASCALS" means that SW must not be left in the hands of rascals. It doesn't mean that the SW is in the hands of rascals. He implied that the SW is too important "TO BE" left in the hands of rascals (Which could be anybody, without specific reference to the present). If he said "TO BE LEFT IN THE HANDS OF ACN AND LABOUR PARTY RASCALS" then it would have been another story.

Once again as a PDP member, his wish is to capture as many states as possible, hence the last statement.

His statement did not insult anybody. It gave prestige to the SW as a whole.
IF TRULY HE WAS REFERRING TO OTHER PARTY LEADERS, THEN WHY DID IT TAKE A REGIONAL DIMENSION? SOUTH WESTERNERS TOOK OFFENSE. SHOULDN'T IT BE ACN AND LABOUR PARTY MEMBERS THAT SHOULD BE OFFENDED? OR ARE THESE PARTIES NOT FIELDING CANDIDATES THAT WILL CONTEST AGAINST JONATHAN? RIBADU HAVE BEEN QUITE VOCAL ABOUT THE DANGERS OF ELECTING PDP. HE HAS BEEN QUITE DIRECT IN HIS REFERENCES. SO, WHY IS HE CALLING FOR GEJ'S HEAD FOR AN UNCLEAR STATEMENT?"
Anyway I aint a PDP member. I actually prefer Ribadu more, but I'm just being fair.[/b]

May Allah or whatever you worship bless you.

Having a head start in education doesn't mean you get sense.

auwal87:
Even as Murtala is dead, his kindred are not. The movement still exists, and it is growing day by day. It is just a matter of time, and Nigeria will be divided just like Sudan. History in the making Hausa-Fulani haters should go to hell!

And if I may ask you, for what reasons are you planning to secede?

How many daughters does he have?

I wonder why some folks like to take things out of context without reading beneath the surface. Let's see what they have to say now. Carry on with the good job, Sir.

fstranger3:
What more is better than an eboised version of Mukina, and while we are at it, we shall do a loboyomy on her and stuff her brain with Akpu.


And here you have it, A fully Eboised Mikina that is sure to never goo back to Sierra Leone

Do you even know the meaning of 'Akpu'? It's a foreign food in Igboland.

Your folks in Ngbatiland eat it most. mou-mou.

Yoruba people and their attempt to always claim Edo and Delta state.

hehehe. I dey laugh o.

Take this crap to romance section next time. What's going on here sef. Bunch of weirdos infiltrating the whole place. Shior.

tpiah!:
mukinatu will change her name to mukinoma

or mukioma

Not funny!

Abagworo:
If you look at some issues cropping up,you will observe the crisis created by this standard Igbo.For example the spelling of Igbo/Ibo,
Oluchi/Orunchi,
Okolo/Okoro,
Wakama/Nwakanma,Ifeoma/Homa,Nwala/Wali/Nwali/Nwani/Weli/Wala/Nwana/Wana.

We cannot really say which is correct or not but if we wrote in each of the dialects,they are right to the speaker.

I do not think that these variations were caused by a supposedly 'standard' Igbo. These difference were already inherent in our diverse dialects, which is BTW not peculiar to the Igbo language.

Like I previously pointed out, I 'm really at odds with the term 'standard Igbo'. I kind of find it insulting to our collective natural way of speaking. A better and more diplomatic term would be a 'central Igbo' which should be more pronounced in writing.

I must also confess that I do not know much except the little I can gather from some literature I could lay my hands on.

As for the examples you gave, one or two of them can be the accepted variants in a 'central' Igbo just like you sometimes have it in English where two pronunciations or spellings are considered correct. e.g American and British English variations.

Abagworo:
This particular issue if properly tackled will go a long way in solving our unity problem.Many Igbos do not really like the imposition of this manufactured language hence the lack of interest in Igbo literature.

I belong to Achebe's school of thought.

Dont you think it would be more of a disadvantage writing literature in your dialect. Except you want only people from your clan to read it. A central Igbo(I quite disagree with the term 'standard Igbo') is necessary at least for writing purposes.

afam4eva:
It is what are you doing not what is wrong with you. I think you meant "Ke ife na me gi".

I do hear some folks from delta say 'kee ife na eme i?' to mean 'what's wrong with you?'.

I think they kind of replace 'gi'(you) for 'i' in their speech. But I doubt if the onitsha dialect uses that.

fstranger3:
^^^^

You are becoming annoying and repetitive

She doesnt want you to claim her, go look for other people to claim,like the Jews, the Somalis, claim anyone but her and her people. Why is that difficult for you to understand?

Are you Ibo?

lol. What's wrong in trying to claim a slim beauty like Mukina2. Much better than claiming you, though.
No. I'm not Ibo. I'm Heebo.

fstranger3:
And what would have made it different from a Republic of Biafra?

No do or die politics. No AG crises.

An Odua republic would have been doom's land. With all the political killing and rascality prevalent in SW politics.

Obusanjo was right on this one.

Mukina2, you are really getting it all wrong. No Igbo here is trying to claim you or anyone. I really do not like the way you are turning things around. I find the whole episode educating, hence, I kept asking you the meanings of kanu and okoro in those languages.

Ofcourse, you keep running away from the questions in the guise that someone is trying to claim people.

I'm even more concerned about the kanu and okoro names. Will like to know what they mean in, , is it mandinka?

I thought you are all called creoles. My bad!

Ikengawo:
Our people, once the origin of nearly all of Africa's new ideas, cannot even address the problems that face us[b] without blanking 'Biafra' as a solution.[/b]

I do not think that this is always true. Igbos have managed to bounce back after they lost all in the civil war. One problem that often bring up Biafra is lack of federal presence in Igboland. That had been addressed by Igbos by migrating to places where such facilities are located within the country. Nothing wrong with Igbo nationalism in my opinion(you might call it Biafra), we need to prepare to exist as a people in case this union fails.

We were the ones that in all reality liberated Nigeria from the British and asked the 3 tribes to stay united, but we act as if we're less Nigerian, or Nigeria is less ours then anyone else's then quickly wonder why we're politically irrelevant.

Quite true. Igbos need to work on this. But really Igbos are not politically irrelevant, only we are not so strong politically, either due to some conspiracy or we lack politicians who have a burning love for their people.

We pioneered this continent time and time again, and now we can't see and issue that everyone else is solving for themselves with real solutions without a lost multitude scream biafra and blaming all our problems, which we created ourselves, on 'marginalization' and speaking of succession.
We seem to have totally lost focus due to a lack of real ideas.

Not true.

when someone speaks of corruption we speak of seperation as opposed to a solution
when someone speaks of kidnapping we speak of seperation

any problem that afflicts us, the failed idea of seperation from a nation we built is instantly blurted as a solution and real discourse and problem solving is not achieved. When did the most capable people on planet earth become perpetual victims?

I do not think you are right on this one. No one speaks of seperation when corruption or kidnapping is discussed. Like I mentioned before, the 'victim' feeling might still be lingering if Igbos remain politically impotent for a long time in a democratic setting, because of the positions that were held in pre-civil war era. Then we'll know whether our politicians are not-so-smart or there's some kind of conspiracy going on.

ezeagu:
It would be the Creole people with Kanu that would be the Igbo descendants.

Someone with an Igbo name has only been president once then.

That is if both words mean the same things in both languages or the creoles do not know their meaning. Then, those bearing such names are possibly descendants of Igbo slaves(though some might just like the names and bear them)

Kobojunkie:
^^^ Now I know ENGLISH is not just a problem for you but you are probably smoking something really bad . . . . [size=14pt]ROFLMAO[/size]!!

Are you kidding me ROFLMAO!!!!

Ol' girl. Stop rambling and tell me where you got your info on how the monies(not yet released) will go to where they are not meant for or take the correction. To hell with English.

^^^ Now I'm beginning to think that you are the one misunderstanding the whole thing in order to fit in with your DELUSIONS. How did you know the monies will end up where they are not meant for? Where did you get that from?

jason123:
Excanny, you know kobojunkie did not mean it in that way. The point highlighted above is a lie and a joke at best. Why? Corruption has nothing to do with the SE. If GEJ gave that same money to the NC, the same thing would happen, our corrupt officials would siphon the money to their accounts, send their children abroad while leave us (the citizens) to suffer.
Likes of Chime, I really admire. I categorise him with the progressive generation but only him cannot do it.

That's what I was saying. You are also mixing up point like kobojunkie. Article says money is staying with the BoI, to be given out to businesses operating in the SE zone as loans.

Kobojunkie:
^^^ No, I meant every word I posted there. Problem is so many on here like to read their own DELUSIONS into what others post and confuse themselves into believing the other is to blame for their misconstruing the message.

Entrepreneurs? Where did you see me type that? You will need to SHOW ME FROM MY POST where you got the above from. Cause I have no clue where you get that from.

WOW . . . again, Where you do you get insinuating that BY DEFAULT all SE politicians are Corrupt? Please SHOW ME in my own words where you have me saying exactly that.

You posted that you were worried were those monies will end up, didn't you? Which is why I asked you if you were worried that the monies will end up in the hands of businessman who will use it to further boost economic development in the region. Is that your worry? That's where the article shows it will end up through the Bank of Industry. Except you are misconstruing the main points.

Kobojunkie:
I am more concerned about where it will end up . . . many of our own local politicians celebrating this probably see this more as PER DAY than anything else and so will work to rig and cajole the people into voting in their(the politicians) pay day, and not necessarily a better life for the region.

I want to believe that you have no idea of the point you are trying to put forward. 

You are worried that the monies will end up in the hands of entrepreneurs who would use it to boost economic activities? Ofcourse, that's the reason for wanting to give out the capital in the first place.

And if you are actually insinuating that all SE politicians are by default corrupt, again, I'll say you are wrong. The likes of Chime and Obi are shining examples of men of honour.