₦airaland Forum

bigFOOTcaveMAN:
Cause he wants to make amends for all his attrocities in his Dictator days. But screw the monster, we will reject him again

I thought you guys said that everything he achieve was the brainchild of Tunde Idiagbon, and now it's not Idiagbon's attrocities but Buhari's. Can you seriously have it both way? Achievement are Idiagbon's attrocities are Buhari's-Seriously?
Make up your minds people!

Mrval20:
To everyone criticising him....What if he gave orders before leaving for Burkina Faso? Do you expect him to take up arms and fight the terrorists himself?
When you hate someone, everything he does always seem wrong to you.

Our ancestors said it thousands of years ago that: Onye ulo ya na agba oku anaghi achu oke.
Maybe you think that they are fools.

tonyot:
GEJ till when God says "NO". If there is one election I must vote in, then it's Feb 2015 Presidential election and OUR BELOVED President, Dr. GoodLuck Ebele Jonathan GCFR has my vote.

I didn't realize that God or your god is a registered Nigerian voter. The real God has no interest in man's earthly government, especially the sort that rules Nigeria. If he does, I think Jonathan will struggle to be a local councillor, because he is the epitome of ineptness.

Honestly, sometimes you have to really question the sanity of most of this people in power in Nigeria. So as if one local government is not enough but 17 can go Boko Haram, thats no problem at all?
And he even plotted it into a percentage for God's sake. What sort of a slowpoke thinks that yielding even an inch of your territory is ok? Let alone 17 local government areas, that is bigger than most countries in Europe?
You can see the logic of them handing Bakassi people over to Cameroon without even a fight, because they reasoned there millions of others people remaining, Bakassi is only 0.001% of Nigeria, so what is the fuss of losing them? When proper leaders go to war because the life of a single citizen of theirs. Haba!!!
What is this having a breakfast analogy got to do with Jonathan making peace in Burkina Faso while losing sovereignty of parts the country he pretend to command?
While thousands of his fellow citizens are refugees in their own country? Where close to 3k prisoners has broke jail with no trace in them in the last few months alone? where 200 innocent girls were kidnapped without a trace and sold into slavery in this 21st century?

A reasonable leader would have delegated this trip to his foreign minister or his vice president, in view of a civil war going on in his own domain. But in the word of his spokesman, their normal life must go on. Never mind the no life of those they supposed to be serving who are perishing on a daily basis and desperate.

This is pure madness. If Jonathan has any atom of brain or even conscience, this idiotic Okupe's statement deserves him sacked and distance himself and his government from Okupe.
Okupe is a total disgrace to any sane society.

Lol
This is typical Jonathan. His own house is on fire, but he is busy trying to put off smothering one in another person's.
At home, Boko Haram is sharing sovereignty with you and you flew off to Burkina Faso to lecture an usurper?
If he is that desperate to give Burkinabes peace that your own people doesn't have back home, why not send your foreign minister?

dlox147:
at the bolded read through my post again 2.8 billion NAIRA and not DOLLARS

Did you say it's worth $3 billion now?

dlox147:
your darling Buhari Should explain the N2.8 billion NNPC money that got stolen under his watch as Petroleum Minister and head of NNPC in 1978? Let’s bear in mind that the value of that money in hard currency at the time was more than $3 billion.it is also on record that the Shehu Shagari government, which shortly took over thereafter from the military, set up a Senate probe which traced the money to a London Midland Bank account belonging to Buhari from where the money again got missing..Buhari is no saint

It was German war propaganda expert, Josef Geobbels that says that "when a lie is repeated so often, it sounds or become the truth. You really believed that someone like Buhari stolen 2.8 billions in 1978?
Where did he hide it, under his pillow or some fictional bank of no name?
You think he had that sort of money and OBJ didn't use it against him when he was desperately looking for something?
When is he going to spend it? You have $3b according to your calculation but went and borrowed from a bank that has less worth assets to your money in order to build your residential home?
Those that stolen Nigeria dry, we can all see their farms that fed no one, their mansions at home and abroad, their eye catching pivate jets. Where is Buharis?
Did he threw his into the lagoon or will he spend it when he is dead or something?
A question 2.8 billions theorists never addressed.
But just for your consumption. By 1978 Midland bank total assets is not even near $3b for a single client to have lodged that with them.
By 1978 Midland bank was a local bank based in Birmingham for such a transaction. The bank struggled as a bank until it was taken over by the giants HSBC in 1999 and Midland bank seizes to exist. Stop ignorantly spreading falsehood, Buhari or any other person.

ProfCorruption:
But you didn't accuse Egypt, Soviet Union and Britain of genocide?

They never take credit for it, if they did, kindly make a reference.

Obinoscopy:
Our prayers are with the armed forces of the Federal Republic of Nigeria. Victory shall be ours.

The same armed forces that claims the bravery for the murder of over three millions Biafrans?
When we told them that we fought Soviet union, Britain and Egypt and not them, they thought that we were joking.
But they can't defeat a few ragtag paedophiles in the Sambisa forest called Boko Haram?

Jesus Christ!,
And this Aribasala guy is supposed to be a journalist?
Please can someone do me a favour and give him some tissue paper to blow his nose and not his brain?
He sound very distraught by the sound of things. If he thinks that this man was a traitor for changing his party affiliation, then he must first look at himself in the mirror and realize that he too is a traitor to his own suppose noble profession.
How can you be a journalist and be this partisan and emotional even more than the politicians themselves over a political issue?
If I were Okupe and Abati, I willbe worried about my job now, as this fella is seriously gunning for it in full throttle.

atlwireles:
Please i never inferred a war. I meant a the political shot. Also, I was replying a commentator, asking, if the president knew the country was at war.

My apologies, if I misunderstood you.

atlwireles:
So the country being at war is Jonathan's only problem. Some people can chew gum and walk at the same time. There are pirates in the Nigerdelta, robberies somewhere in the west today, car theft/accidents in east, you name it, its happening somewhere in Nigeria as we speak.. Yet, your APC has decided to make Nigeria's politics a hell hole. Actions and reactions are equal and opposite. Tambawal fired the first shot, he forgot Nigeria was at war with boko haram in the Northeast , abi you want one side to sit and allow a bunch of political bastarddds calling themselves APC run this country into the bush? No, let's set this place on fire, is that not what you people want. Thereafter, the losers will count their losses.

First shot at who? When did changing ones political associates becomes firing a shot? Some of you who thinks that they are practicing democracy but still thinks like Mobutu when it comes to opposition needs a total rethink. Its not meant to be a war but fight of ideas

lekkie073:
potikum, kogi gombe, mubi..... someone promised to make the country ungovernable for Jonathan.....Jonathan should go get him....

If that was the case, the so called someone deserved to be the president instead of Jonathan. Because if he/she can make the land ungovernable for the person that command all the armed forces, spend billions annually for defense with ragtags in the bush, then that someone must be really powerful to be called a leader.
Every time most of you used the spent excuse of ungovernable to defend Jonathan's ineptness on security, you people has no idea how weaskiling it makes him look before the world.

I still remember with a big chuckle, his poultry farm that cost millions to build, which OBJ said doesn't smell like a poultry. Lol
Why? Because he went and hired chickens to fill the place up on the day of the commissioning. That's why it beggars belief that he actually made a come back. Which says a lot about the so called suffering masses.

elohorayodele:
how can someone from the minority remain a speaker when he was chosen as a speaker when he was in the majority. Abi is 17 now greater than 19? Goodbye tambuwal

Its possible. Speaker Betty Boothroyd was a Labour pary member, she was the speaker of the British parliament for almost the 18 years the conservatives were in power before the Labour party came to power in 1997.

Ahmeduana:
THE FACT IS THAT YOU CANNOT CHOOSE TO BE A SLAVE AND STILL WANT TO CLAIM THE BENEFITS AND PRIVILEDGES THAT COMES WITH THE THRONE OF A KING. in my language> a ki je meji po laba alade, ka je isu tan ka tu la tu jeyan ikan la fowo mu> WHICH MEANS YOU CANNOT EAT YOUR CAKE AND HAVE IT! IS EITHER tambuawal eat yam or he eat pounded yam!

Law is different from personal feeling. In law you can declare favour for your enemy, not because you want to but because you have to or you landed yourself with anarchy.
Nigeria is too complex for me to understand sometimes, It's not the IG's job to decide who defect and who didn't. PDP can easily come to the house, ask him to resign and if he doesn't they can impeach him with their majority.
Speakers position is not the exclusive of the party in majority anywhere in the world, it just a normal human feeling that you control when you are in majority, not the law. He is not the speaker of PDP.
That is how it should be done and once that is done, they should write the IG and he then act based on the law, if the law stipulated that he doesn't merit security detail. Then so be it.

But because of politics of personal feelings and intimidation, abuse of position and power in Nigeria, people do things in a ways that look like the old Abacha days. If this IG is so on point with the law, why wasn't the same treatment visited on governor Mimiko?
Until public servant realized that they they don't work for politician but the nation, things like this will keep on happening. Am not saying that the speaker deserved to have security detail but let thing be done in civilized and lawful way and without being selective.

karlmax2:
this what the ig means

section 68. (1) A member of the Senate or of the House of Representatives shall vacate his seat in the House of which he is a member if -

Then

(g) being a person whose election to the House was sponsored by a political party, he becomes a member of another political party before the expiration of the period for which that House was elected;

Provided that his membership of the latter political party is not as a result of a division in the political party of which he was previously a member or of a merger of two or more political parties or factions by one of which he was previously sponsored; or

Its not his job to enforce such a law, it down to the house and it's members and the court.

karlmax2:
Section 68. 1 (g) being a person whose election to the House was sponsored by a political party, he becomes a member of another political party before the expiration of the period for which that House was elected;

Provided that his membership of the latter political party is not as a result of a division in the political party of which he was previously a member or of a merger of two or more political parties or factions by one of which he was previously sponsored;

If this was the law, the IG was wrong, changing a party doesn't mean you will lose being a speaker, until such a time that you were legally removed by the majority of the members. There is no written law anywhere in democracy that states that an opposition member cannot not be voted by his colleagues to become the speaker, it's never exclusive to the majority party in parliament?

chukwudi44:
The IGP is simply abiding by the dictates of the 1999 constitution.he is enforcing the law he swore to uphold,s it is very much in order

Can any of you quote this law for me, I will like to know what this law said. Thanks

EMANY01:
I have to add here that I have a personal bias against Buhari which I have explained many times in previous posts namely that people have killed other people in this country of ours because of an opinion that he (Buhari) held(I lost a cousin in the kaduna sharia riots in 2000)
Around a thousand people died in 2011 killed by people who claim that they were doing it in Buhari's name (two people known to me died).
As if that was not enough he is still comfortable issuing threats if it so much looks like he will get cheated ...Nnam put yourself in my shoes will you even contemplate this man in the sit of power?[size=20pt]

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I got your point clearly but in this life, life is not that simplistic to judge a persons character based on his belief on which someone acted upon to cause the lose of life of others. Mind you I am not hooting for Buhari but I viewed myself as a decent person who do not allow personal normal human bias feelings to becloud thing for me. Things l, is what I grew into a man to reject.
Everyone knew that Muslims are brought up to believe that sharia law is the way to go, that is in theory, but in practice, how many of them can actually live under the shariah? No Muslim, especially the public one from the northern Nigeria will come out at the time to say he/she was against Sharia in open. OBJ UNDERSTOOD THAT FACT and hence he never fight it and allowed it to die naturally.
In my town in Igboland, we had at least 30 people who are of Islamic faith and the oldest of them made his first hajj in 1951, they are not different from Buhari and will you accuse them what you are accusing Buhari of and had personal issues with them too, just because their belief are the same as those that killed your relatives? Probably not.
You are not alone in feeling the way you do because I had been there. During the 1966 massacre, my father's only brother perished along with his heavily pregnant wife and 12 years old son in Kano. We never even had the privilege of finding their remains and give them a decent fare well.

Blame the system that created the past and current Nigeria, not Buhari. What about all those northerners with the same beliefs around Jonathan? How many have you got the same issue with?
Since some of you practically believed that Jonathan is the divine anointed messiah, what has he done with this opportunity that may not come again to restructure Nigeria that has enslaved our people since 1970? Absolutely nothing! He enjoys just being the president for six good years now.

biafranqueen:
Understandable, I was not surprised at the vote the split would have economically been a disaster.

Well Sir I suggest you check out recent Youtube videos on APC rallies. I know after watching them as my husband did he changed his mind and realized that you would be putting that man to his death sentence. His mental capacity is not what it was in 83. Do you remember how the coup went it was easy right? Well this one is going to be corner corner coup. I suggest you even start with the 2011 debate. Have you been to Nigeria recently?

I saw the video. It's difficult to judge a person or party popularity based on the size of the crowd in the Nigerian political rally. For one thing, Nigerians like to go to any show, just to be there as many hasn't got a job to go to. But if judging by the size of what I saw, I think that Jonathan has a fight on his hand.
You have to remember that in 2011 Buhari without any help, no governors, no senators, not a single money bag and with a party that was barely six months old before the election and despite the rigging, managed to get almost 12 million votes. But this time, he has a formidable support of many governors and their cash and their state apparatus to bring to the table.
I don't think that his age is a problem in reality, after all Zik, Awo, Aminu Kano and Waziri Ibrahim were probably all older than him when they ran for the same office in 1983.
I worry about those behind him this time around with all their personal interests at stake. But if you ask me, I think that Jonathan still has a slight advantage to win.
About the 1983 coup. From the history of Nigerian military, it is a well known fact that Buhari had never participated in any coup planning or execution till date, no matter what people choose to say because of politics. I get that.
He became the head of state by default because the coupist (David Mark included) invited him as a neutral general among others and he accepted but when they realized that they made a mistake choosing him, that he is never going to allow them loot the country treasury along with their corrupt friends like Abiola, they returned overthrew him and he never fought to remain there and he left, hence, probably the easiest coup ever in Nigeria.

major466:
Do you know anything about the freedom of information bill?

I know about it and how it works or how it should be apllied, not the way we are being told, if you yourself know anything about freedom of information, unless the Nigerian version is different.

biafranqueen:
Thank you for your service to Nigeria I and my family salute you and your bravery! We thank God for your life.

Have you listened to any of Buahari's recent speeches Chief?

No I haven't really been following Nigeria politics as I use to recently as I had been busy and the Scottish referendum was the centerpiece of my household politics in the past few months as my wife is SCOTTISH.

dragan:
Just take a look at the pathetic and hate filled comments section on this facebook page and see all the ldiots that follow and believe the crap they post are mostly Igbos and most of them like over 25 years old too.

I guess we can say they're probably the same group of people busy filling the Politics section here with their immature and stupidass threads/posts.

How do you smell an Igbo purely based on looking a mere page of facebook? And you can still term someone else as hate filled, pathetic and idiot. I think you needed some self examination more than those.

Another thing about this Buhari's pension issue. I don't know about the laws of Nigeria, but legally he has no right to refuse what is due him because it has been budgeted. What he can in effect do is to donate the percentage he doesn't want to a charity each time or mandate those that pay him to give it to such a recipient. I need someone vast with the Nigeria system to advance on this.

berem:
good to hear you're doing well.
I must commend you so much for your thought provoking and insightful comments. As a veteran yourself who must have witnessed so much of Nigeria's past events,you have a lot to educate some ignorant folks who have been beclouded by their sense of reasoning. As you rightly said,Buhari might not be the best,but as it is,Nigeria seriously needs someone to salvage this corruption ridden country of its mess.
I look up to you for your beautiful comments.

As you well know, I had always believed that One Nigeria as it's structured today will never work and it's stunting the growth of each region as everyone is there to undermine each other. It's not about Jonathan or Buhari as candidates, it about the individuals with special interest surrounding them. Jonathan as I can see it is so into the pockets of the powerful interest groups and his wife is corrupt with power and that affect so many of his actions.
Buhari on the other hand has a measure of independent from interest groups by not totally immuned from them as democracy is not the same as military rule.
If when he has the will to fight corruption, he has to face structural and bureaucratic obstacle that makes Nigeria what it is and will not allow him to express his ambitions in terms of governance, which is easier in a military rule, as he can make the decrees and get thinks done according to his wishes in an instant.
Can Buhari beats Jonathan?
If it's free and fair, definitely yes. But you cannot under estimate the PDP as a force. Fayose's election is a warning to any one that believed that PDP is not popular or doesn't have supporters in unlikely places, because it come down to personal interest of powerful people behind these parties.
They fight for their candidates because of their own interest, sometime more zealous than the candidates themselves. Hence after the elections, they often return to where they where before depending on where the river of Naira is channeled.

berem:
Pa Eziachi,good day to you sir! How is your health and your family? Few days ago,I asked after your whereabouts and was urged to send you a pm to know how you are doing. Hope you are doing well.

Thanks you my friend. I am actually very well. I am getting use to my prosthetic limb and and can now walk a short distance, drive myself and swim. But I was so bored after working steadily for over 40 years and now nothing to do except hospital board meetings that I decided to go back to school and read law. So I am very busy with my books and projects, assigments and assements.lol
And it's been great so far.

Billyonaire:
Even if he borrowed the money to buy the forms. Who actually needs a bankrupt President anyway ? A man that can not wisely manage the several millions he is being paid monthly, but still borrows is ineffectual, wasteful, and economically daft.

Buhari's mantra is fighting 'kwuorropshen' (Corruption); If you ask him how he will diversify Nigeria from petroleum to other alternatives, he will say, 'by pighting kwuorropshen).

No militarily backgrounded semi-illiterate should be allowed to govern a country of millions of graduates.

If you kill corruption in Nigeria even by 50% you will solve most of Nigerian solvable problems. Despite your claim of intellectual monopoly, you still don't know that it is corruption created around easy money from petroleum that is continuously making Nigeria a one sector economy?
Whether Buhari is the messiah for Nigeria, I doubt that, but he is on point if he kept harping on corruption as the solution for every ills of Nigeria.
No military background and you forgot that David Mark was a military man? Background is not the issue, the issue is personality who has a track record of not stealing from the masses, who will use that as a start. As some thief cannot honestly tell another thief not to steal.
Like I said, I don't know whether Buhari is the solution, but no one had ever presented any ounce of evidence that this guys is corrupt. Something very un-Nigeria. Something OBJ of all people looked and couldn't find even a pin to pin it on him. There is something there, whether you like the guy or not, there is something special about him among a rotten generation.

Ngwakwe:
Buhari is too dented to be repackaged.

It wouldn't work for a country like Nigeria.

A man who became famous by showing no sympathy for thousands of people who died during declaration of political sharia by twelve core northern States in the year 2000 and went ahead to call on them to vote him on that platform to defend their religion as if Islam is under threat in Nigeria.

The Buharists have mastered the use of virtual Insurgency such as the use of threat, insult, shouting and obfuscation to scare away neutral people who wish to know more about Buhari.

For the Buharists, except for two or three of them in Nairaland, there cannot be any intellectual serious debate about the item they wish to sell to Nigerians for the reason he was successful in deceiving the Al'majiris in voting him from the streets thereby earning eleven millon votes out of the twelve million plus he got in 2011.

Thank goodness, things have changed, those Al'majiris are to come out from classrooms to vote in February 2015 and are now wiser to know who got their interests at heart.

Minus, Nigerian blind leading blind politics, a decent human being without a true Christian bias, do you really believe all that you said above?

Since when does civil servants get involved in party politics? A federal/state government ministry is not party of party in power. Ministry is an apparatus of the state, not of government, as government comes and go, while the state (sovereign) remains.
After almost 20 years of steady democracy, Nigerian rulers and their ruled, still cannot differentiate few basic principle in a democracy. It's a shame if a ministry of the state (nation) is doing the work of a political party as this should be purely the job of the PDP as the political opponents of Mr Buhari.

#Justice for Moyes

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