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AgricultureRe: My Cucumber Farm Dairy by FarmTech(mod): 7:41am On Dec 22, 2020
Farmerakinloye6:
Been busy like seriously! The cucumber is far faster than me.
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A very neat farm u have there. Keep it up. Control insects aggressively because many of them love cukes. How often do u spray pesticides?
AgricultureRe: Dwarf hybrid pawpaw Seed & Seedling Is Available. by FarmTech(mod): 7:38am On Dec 22, 2020
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AgricultureRe: Dwarf hybrid pawpaw Seed & Seedling Is Available. by FarmTech(mod): 7:35am On Dec 22, 2020
The ones u sold to me are doing well.

AgricultureRe: Get Irrigation Equipment For Your Farm: Spray Tube by FarmTech(mod): 7:28am On Dec 22, 2020
bigsammay:
Yes... 23k per roll
. How many meters is a row?
Christianity EtcRe: Have You Sinned If You Looked Lustfully At The Opposite Sex? by FarmTech(m): 7:25am On Dec 22, 2020
jesusjnr2020:
I get your point. I'm a spiritual perfectionist so I am not settling for lusting, even just that of the heart.

That's the essence of this post, to make people not settle for such as well, that's why I said it's a sin and you can see that many are not taking it lightly.

However the Truth is that lust of the heart alone is not a sin unto death. That's my point.

Thanks and God bless.
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We are all learning. So I'll like u to list some sins that are unto death and those that are not. Because for now, I understand "sin unto death" to mean any sin that was not confessed and repented from b4 death came. Bible interpretation can be tough sometimes.
Christianity EtcRe: Have You Sinned If You Looked Lustfully At The Opposite Sex? by FarmTech(m): 11:33pm On Dec 20, 2020
jesusjnr2020:
I think you contradict yourself by the bolded, because you can't use your assumptions to conclude that an assumption was wrong.

The explanation you got from Google didn't even help but further complicated matters, because it's doesn't make any real sense...

The saying of John agrees with my position that some sayings of Jesus as that one concerning lust were meant to make men perfect as God was and made man to be in the beginning. Not that such would lead man to hell.

For instance, if Adam and Even had just lusted after the forbidden fruit in their hearts but not eaten of it in the beginning, do you think they would have perished as God said they would if they had eaten of it?

Of course the lust in their hearts led them to eat it, but what if they had stopped at lusting after it in their hearts and not eaten of it, would they have sinned unto death?

It's obvious what the answer is, and i believe that's the standard God sent Jesus to bring back to mankind, hence that saying, but not that lust in one's heart would lead man to hell even if it doesn't proceed out of the heart as fornication, adultery etc.

God bless.
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I don't play with sin and I don't encourage people to do so. Flee from temptation. Flee from youthful lust. Don't try to see how close u can come to sin without touching it. Satan is a master deceiver.
AgricultureRe: 500,000 Naira From One Plot Of Land In 90 Days. by FarmTech(mod): 10:07pm On Dec 18, 2020
zxcvbnmlkjhgfds:
I finally got to the end of this thread! grin grin
It has been a real eye opener and coupled with the power of screenshot I've learnt a whole lot more than I knew before. grin grin
Big ups to oga @ Okoroemeka (na man you be) cool , Ideepaul, FarmTech and other gurus who started this journey from page 1. You've done well smiley
I already have a small backyard garden where I've been planting vegetables since March (lockdown gave me the willpower to do this) and coupled with what I've learnt here, I decided to add cucumber planting also (just for my personal consumption). Ọga Okoroemeka has been of tremendous help. He responded promptly to my messages to him on WhatsApp and gave valuable insights.

I planted the seeds (cucumber) this evening and my fingers arre crossed. wink wink

Wish me well!

Shalom.
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Keep it up bro.
Christianity EtcRe: Have You Sinned If You Looked Lustfully At The Opposite Sex? by FarmTech(m): 10:07pm On Dec 18, 2020
jesusjnr2020:
No it's not. Jesus never said our thoughts defile us but thoughts which proceed from our hearts.

If you could think of killing your brother as Cain did, and you don't allow the thought to proceed from your heart, and try to carry it out, you've tried even though you're not perfect.

Those sayings are to make us perfect as God is not to send us to hell. There are rewards and benefits we lose if we don't obey them but going to heaven is not one of them.

John the brother of James said something of this nature but didn't specify. So although God is the One that decides these things, He made this knowledge available to those of His Own.
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The bible says there is a sin unto death and there is a sin not unto death. When I google for more explanation, a site says that, a sin unto death is the one somebody engage in and did not repented from till death. The fact remains that the complete meaning isn't clear. So it is wrong to assume that lust will not lead to hell.
Christianity EtcRe: Have You Sinned If You Looked Lustfully At The Opposite Sex? by FarmTech(m): 10:14pm On Dec 17, 2020
jesusjnr2020:
Because there are sins unto death and those which are not.

And being a sin of the heart, which has not yet manifested in the physical, it shouldn't be a sin unto death.
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This kind advise is deadly oo. Jesus says that it is our thought that defiles us. And what is defiled won't enter the kingdom of God. It is God that is in the best position to decide because He knows the heart. A lot of factors will be used to decide which is which.
PoliticsRe: Abducted Kankara Boys Speak In New Boko Haram Video. Say Some Of Us Were Killed by FarmTech(m): 9:28pm On Dec 17, 2020
fk001:
Nawa O.


Nigeria don finally cast

BH in Northwesthuh? And southerners thinks they are safe?

I keep on telling people BH ideology is an extreme ideology with a well-structured plan to conquer the world (God forbid bad thing they can't).

Now their strategy is to gain followers either willingly or unwillingly that is by force. After they are done with NW they will penetrate NC (Maybe they are there already) after that they have the numbers already they won't need Gorilla warfare anymore to penetrate the South, they will start going to the South through bomb blast, road kidnapping etc.


Aisha Yesufu said something sensible yesterday but you all are debunking her due to your shortsighted point of view. Wake up the war is already at your doorstep. BH wants to conquer whole west Africa and imposed their radical ideology on us.


Our leaders have fvcked us all angry
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Is Islam a violent religion? Is it really a religion of peace as they say?
Islamic doctrine teaches Muslims to lie to further Islam (using the doctrine of
Taqiyya to excuse it), that's why their leaders are saying so. ---- https://bibleprophecyandtruth.com/notes/violentIslam
Will Islam rule the world? Is Islam in the Bible?
The prophecies of the Bible and the Muslim prophecies concerning the Antichrist (the Muslim Mahdi) and the false prophet (the Muslim Jesus) mirror each other but the good guys of Islam are the bad guys of the Bible. This is a very good indication that the Antichrist will rise as the Mahdi of Islam and will unite the Christian world with him via the false prophet and create a global Islamic religion.
Take a look at the following list:
Much of the teaching in Islam comes from the Hadith and Sunnah. It's not like the Bible where I can just give you a verse to read. As such, the Islamic prophecies listed are from multiple sources. They all come from the Q'uran, Hadith, Sunnah and other Muslim sources - see references below
. Bible: The Antichrist is an unparalleled political, military, and religious leader that will emerge in the last days. - Dan 8:24-25, Dan 11:40, Rev 13:7-8
a. Islam: The Mahdi is an unparalleled political, military, and religious leader that will emerge in the last days.
. Bible: the False Prophet is a secondary prominent figure that will emerge in the last days who will support the Antichrist.- Rev 13:11-15, Rev 19:20, Rev 20:10
a. Islam: the Muslim Jesus is a secondary prominent figure that will emerge in the last days to support the Mahdi.
. Bible: The Antichrist and the False Prophet together will have a powerful army that will do great damage to the earth in an effort to subdue every nation and dominate the world. - Rev 13, Dan 7:7, Dan 7:23
a. Islam: The Mahdi and the Muslim Jesus will have a powerful army that will attempt to control every nation of the earth and dominate the world.
. Bible: The False Prophet is described essentially as a dragon in lamb's clothing. - Rev 13:11
a. Islam: The Muslim Jesus comes bearing the name of the one that the world knows as 'The Lamb of God, Jesus Christ." Yet the Muslim Jesus comes to murder all those who do not submit to Islam.
. Bible: The Antichrist and the False Prophet establish a new world order. - Rev 13:16-17
a. Islam: The Mahdi and the Muslim Jesus establish a new world order.
. Bible: The Antichrist and the False Prophet institute new laws for the whole earth. - Dan 7:25, Rev 13
a. Islam: The Mahdi and the Muslim Jesus institute Islamic law all over the earth.
. Bible: The Antichrist is said to "change the times." - Dan 7:25
a. Islam: It is quite certain that if the Mahdi established Islam all over the earth, he would discontinue the use of Saturday and Sunday as the weekend for days of rest but rather Friday, the holy day of Islam. Also, he would most certainly eliminate the Gregorian calendar and replace it with the Islamic calendar used in every Islamic country.
. Bible: The Antichrist and the False Prophet will both be powerful religious leaders who will attempt to institute a universal world religion. - Rev 13:12
a. Islam: The Mahdi and the Muslim Jesus will institute Islam as the only religion on the earth.
. Bible: The Antichrist and the False Prophet will execute anyone who does not submit to their world religion. - Rev 13:15
a. Islam: Likewise, the Mahdi and the Muslim Jesus will execute anyone who does not submit to Islam.
. Bible: The Antichrist and the False Prophet will specifically use beheading as the primary means of execution for non-conformists. - Rev 20:4
a. Islam: The Mahdi and the Muslim Jesus will use the Islamic practice of beheading for executions.
. Bible: The Antichrist and the False Prophet will have a specific agenda to kill as many Jews and Christians as possible. - Rev 13:7, Dan 7:21, Dan 11:30
a. Islam: The Mahdi and the Muslim Jesus hate Jews and Christians and will kill as many as possible until only a few are left hiding behind rocks and trees.
. Bible: The Antichrist and the False Prophet will attack to conquer and seize Jerusalem (the battle of Armageddon). - Rev 16:14, Rev 18:19, Ez 38:16
a. Islam: The Mahdi and the Muslim Jesus will attack to reconquer and seize Jerusalem for Islam.
. Bible: The Antichrist will set himself up in the Jewish Temple as his seat of authority (the abomination of desolation). - 2 Thess 2:4, Dan 11:45, Dan 9:26-27, Dan 11:31, Dan 12:11, Matt 24:15
a. Islam: The Mahdi will establish the Islamic caliphate from Jerusalem.
. Bible: The False Prophet is said to do many miracles to deceive as many as possible into supporting the Antichrist. - Rev 13:13-14
a. Islam: The Mahdi himself is said to control the weather and the crops. His face is said to glow. We can also assume that since Jesus is viewed as having been empowered by Allah to work miracles when He was here on earth the first time, He will most likely be expected to continue to do so when He returns.
. Bible: The belief at the time of Muhammad (and still believed by some people today) was that the Antichrist is described as riding on a white horse in the Book of Revelation. - Rev 6:2
a. Islam: The Mahdi is described as riding on a white horse (ironically in the same verse in Revelation).
. Bible: The Antichrist is said to make a peace treaty (with many) with Israel for seven years (the Confirmation of the Covenant). - Dan 9:27
a. Islam: The Mahdi is said to make a peace treaty through a Jew (specifically a Levite) for exactly seven years.
. Bible: Jesus the Jewish Messiah will return to defend the Jews in Israel from a military attack from a vast coalition of nations led by the Antichrist and the False Prophet (the battle of Armageddon). - Rev 19:11-16, Dan 7:9-13 and 22, Dan 2:34, Dan 2:44-45
a. Islam: The Dajjal, the Islamic Antichrist, will gain a great Jewish following and claim to be Jesus Christ and fight against the Mahdi and the Muslim Jesus.
. Bible: The antichrist spirit specifically denies the most unique and central doctrines of Christianity, namely the divinity of Jesus, the incarnation of God in the flesh, and the substitutionary death of Jesus on the Cross. - Dan 11:30 - Makes war with the saints as shown in above scriptures - The world today is trying to make Jesus unimportant and deny that He is God Himself
a. Islam: Islam doctrinally and spiritually specifically denies the most unique and central doctrines of Christianity, namely the divinity of Jesus, the incarnation of God in the flesh, and the substitutionary death of Jesus on the Cross.
. Bible: The primary warning of Jesus and the Apostle Paul was to warn Christians of the abundance of deceit and deception in the last days. - Matt 24:24, Matt 24:11, Col 2:8, 2 Cor 11:3, 2 Thessalonians 2:10, 1 Tim 4:1-2, Titus 1:16
a. Islam: Islam is perhaps the only religion on earth that practices deceit as one of its tools to assist its own ascendancy. It actually has a specific doctrine which allows and even calls for deception to be used to achieve its desired end.
. Bible: From the Bible and history we learn that the final Antichrist empire will be a revived version of the empire that succeeds the Roman Empire (the iron mingled with clay of Daniel 2). - Dan 2:31-45
a. Islam: The empire that succeeded the Roman Empire was the combined Holy Roman Empire in parallel with the Islamic Ottoman Empire.
. Bible: When the Antichrist emerges, a system will already exist poised to receive him as a savior and to give allegiance to him. - From Rev 13 and 17, Dan 11 and events that we know will happen, like the 6th trumpet war, we can see how the Bible shows us this is all being orchestrated right now with the "New World Order" and many other things.
a. Islam is already the second largest religion and combined with Christianity constitutes over half of the worlds population. Islam awaits the coming of the Mahdi with universal anticipation. The Catholic church and many Christian churches believe that the Muslims will be saved just like Christianity will be, and believe that they worship the same God as Christianity. It's a very short step to convert to Islam if that is believed to be the truth.
https://bibleprophecyandtruth.com/notes/islammobile.html?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIp56Blqjd7AIVFZzVCh1NhAYsE
Christianity EtcRe: Have You Sinned If You Looked Lustfully At The Opposite Sex? by FarmTech(m): 7:15pm On Dec 13, 2020
jesusjnr2020:
Have You Sinned If You Looked Lustfully At The Opposite Sex?

Yes you have according to this saying of Jesus:

"But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart." Matthew 5:28

But it's not a sin unto death because this saying of Jesus was intended to make you perfect as the Father is!

Matthew 5:48 (KJV)

Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

That was how God made man (male an female) to be in the beginning and how man was before he fell into sin. So the purpose God sent Jesus to the Earth, was to restore things back to way they were in the beginning, when there was no lust in man's heart despite that they (male and female) were both naked.

Genesis 2:25 (KJV)

And they were both naked, the man and his wife, and were not ashamed.

So shame only came after lust entered into their hearts via sin, but that was not how God made man to be in the beginning. Hence the purpose of that saying of Jesus was to restore man back to the way God made them in the beginning when there was no lust in their hearts.

Therefore that ought to be the aspiration of every man who is a follower of Jesus; to become perfect as God is and made man to be in the beginning when there was no lust in man's heart.

This Jesus was, being a perfect illustration of the ways of the Father on Earth, hence He desired for His followers to become likewise.

So do not settle for lust even though it just that of the heart, because God desires that you be perfect as He is without lust in your heart, so that you don't give the devil any room to exploit.

With God it's possible to achieve this.

God bless.
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How sure are u that it is not a sin that lead into death?
ProgrammingRe: My Journey To Programming by FarmTech(m): 10:40pm On Dec 11, 2020
Op, I hope u haven't given up.
CelebritiesRe: Bridget Bema Goes Viral For Multiple Offences (video) by FarmTech(m): 9:08pm On Dec 11, 2020
Righteousness89:
Bema is now Celebrated for being a Nuisance in school!! Folly is now Celebrated! Behold what our World has Become!!
. I Blame the entertainment industry.
AgricultureRe: 500,000 Naira From One Plot Of Land In 90 Days. by FarmTech(mod): 9:03pm On Dec 10, 2020
brtrip:
guys, i need to buy hybrid tomatoe seed, insecticide, fungicide etc.
does anyone know of any shop selling it in any of these 3 cities : nnewi, onitsha or owerri ?
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Sokoto road, main market onitsha
AgricultureRe: 500,000 Naira From One Plot Of Land In 90 Days. by FarmTech(mod): 9:38pm On Dec 07, 2020
okoroemeka:
we planted the melons and it grew and formed heads ,hundreds of heads,but sadly every rodent and animal decided to take a bite from our melon,unlike cucumber that can have fruit damage and still grow to be saleable,melon if damaged or punctured even on a thiny level will spoil and be unsaleable,we are planning a melon come back but it will be staked,every ball will be lifted off and suspended with twine and old bags off the ground.
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Tragic! I suggest u build a low fence (<knee height) round the farm with sticks, dry grass etc. But leave some entry points for the rodents and set traps there. Those rodents (except the tree ones) don't know how to climb, so they will enter thru the entry points.
CrimeRe: Soldier Beats & Disgraces A Lady For Indecent Dressing In Ogun State (Photo) by FarmTech(m): 9:04pm On Dec 07, 2020
Depressedkidd:
I'm just reminding those that are shouting nudity is not African blah blah that it actually is. Btw I'm not about religion, but the first step in taking away the strength of any people is to make them hate their own cultures and religions, then introduce yours, go and check all through history, that's how it's done.
Now lemme shock you, bundling what you call "idol worshipping and killing of twins and other evils" actually doesn't sit well with me. Do you know how much evil has been perpetrated all through time in the name of Christianity? The crusades? One of the Bloodiest and most inhumane and longest and most repeated war in history? The witch hunts all through the middle ages when women were tagged witches and burned at the stake in the name of God? And even most recently the killing or beating or maiming of children accused of being witches in this same Nigeria and in other parts of Africa. Every culture and religion has had its evils all across time and history, it's about choosing to see which of those practices don't sit well and abandoning them. Buddhism teaches peace with others and with oneself, as do lots of other religions, just in case you feel that's why Christianity is the best religion. The level of intolerance that Nigerian theists have is out of this world, going as far as burning down religious sites and artefacts all in the name of "cleansing the land". Artefacts that should be protected and guarded and would be worth a lot as windows into the past. Do you think if we want to cleanse the world of evils commited in the name of Christianity there'll be enough oil for it? Stop hyping the white man's culture and religion blindly, select what your own morality feels is good while also being within the legal limit and go with it, and leave the next man to do same at his own discretion. Even the white people that brought the mental shackles of religion have abandoned it in favour of freedom and technological advancement, it's high time we followed suit or the world will leave us behind, it already is. And by abandoning the shackles of religion, I don't mean abandon your religion, just leave the mental prison, that is something you can do by being more tolerant of the next person, respecting their decisions and viewing your fellow people as humans first before Christians or Muslims or ogboni etc. That way we'll all get along and bring ideas together, work together for a better world.
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Jesus is the only way to salvation. There is no other way. A lot of evil have been done in the name of Christianity, yes. But only God knows those who are Christians.
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U people and "tolerance" ehh. That was what promoters of lesbianism and homosexualism started with. Today, some churches that bought into the evil idea have now accepted and baptized it. For me, I speak against evil. You Muslim, idol worshippers etc, repent and give ur life to Christ. That is the only way to eternal love life. Come to him and he will teach u true morality.
CrimeRe: Soldier Beats & Disgraces A Lady For Indecent Dressing In Ogun State (Photo) by FarmTech(m): 8:56pm On Dec 07, 2020
planetx:
Beating her is enough? You people are senseless, this forum is fill with mad people. What give him the right to lay his hands on her.
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A society that shun evil will have less problem with social vices. People want rape to stop, but they promote bbn, immoral songs and movies, indescent dressings etc. It will never stop. It is a pity that Nigeria have so much lost morals. Imagine influential men promoting something like bbn. U all shud just sit back and see what ur children will become. Promoters of evils. U all will reap what u sow.
AgricultureRe: 30k Twice A Week From My Pepper Farm by FarmTech(mod): 8:51pm On Dec 07, 2020
safarifarms:
I think you are right. I just found that stink bug, leaf footed bug & squash bug look quite alike.
You really know much about insects.

Thanks.
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Wlcm. I'm yet to dedicate time to learn about pests and beneficial insects.
CelebritiesRe: Duncan Mighty: DNA Test Shows My Daughter, Mitchell Is Not Mine by FarmTech(m): 9:50pm On Dec 05, 2020
oz4real83:
maybe u are the one that need to read carefully to understand better. He mentioned Frank and Bright as the fathers of Mitchel.
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He assumed that since the child was not his, then it belong to the men that slept with his wife.
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But all these musicians that are calling Jesus, u guys don't know wot u are doing. U sing sexually immoral songs that is leading thousands to hell, and u are calling Jesus. Jesus don't know u people if u don't repent.
CrimeRe: Soldier Beats & Disgraces A Lady For Indecent Dressing In Ogun State (Photo) by FarmTech(m): 9:32pm On Dec 05, 2020
ThatFairGuy1:
But his action isn't COMMONSENSICAL.
You accuse someone of f indecent dressing yet you're undressing her. What's sense in this
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He shudnt have undressed her though. Beating would have been enof. When the society don't shun evil, things go haywire. How can someone in her right senses dress like a mad prostitute? I blame the entertainment industry and pastors that won't preach against it.
CrimeRe: Soldier Beats & Disgraces A Lady For Indecent Dressing In Ogun State (Photo) by FarmTech(m): 9:27pm On Dec 05, 2020
Depressedkidd:
We should all remember that wearing clothes is not African culture. We only started covering up when Europeans came in and brought their fancy covered up dresses, brainwashing us with their culture and religion into abandoning our own ways, forgetting them, and worst of all viewing them as the foreign things.
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So we shud go back to idol worshipping, human sacrifices, killing of twins and other evils? They did not brainwashed us with their religion, science or technology. The gospel of Christ is the best thing that happened to Africans.
AgricultureRe: 30k Twice A Week From My Pepper Farm by FarmTech(mod): 9:21pm On Dec 05, 2020
safarifarms:
Thanks for this. I've been looking for the name of this insect that ravaged my cucumber farm without success in getting the name.
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These ones might be leaf footed bugs https://www.google.com/search?client=ms-opera-mini-android&channel=new&q=leaf+footed+bugs&oq=leaf+footed+bugs&aqs=heirloom-srp..
CrimeRe: Soldier Beats & Disgraces A Lady For Indecent Dressing In Ogun State (Photo) by FarmTech(m): 9:08pm On Dec 05, 2020
SilverNorGold:
My brother, read properly - one of the reasons, not all.. And no, we won't tolerate such nonsense here. Nigeria is not US/UK.. And who told you God is not angry with America? How God operates is different. And how he chooses to punish each country is different too.. Don't expect a monotonous punishment for all.. Everyone will be punished uniquely and at the appropriate time.

When God Almighty punished Israel for their sins - sins committed by some Israelites - there were many nations living in worse sins, at the time, that were not punished alongside the Israelites. However, it doesn't mean God wasn't angry with them.. Just that their time of reckoning wasn't ripe.. At some point, God even commissioned some of those sinful/pagan nations to punish the Israelites - who were more righteous than they - for the sins committed by some/most of them.. Does that mean God was happy with those sinful/pagan Nations? No.. His ways are different..

Same thing is happening to Nigeria.

Just say you don't believe in God and move on..

God bless Nigeria.
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God bless u bro. A mod deleted some of ur posts but I have restored them. It really pained to see how people support evil these days - including people who call themselves Christians.
CelebritiesRe: Zlatan Ibile: “I Will Legalize Weed & Embezzle Money If I Become The President” by FarmTech(m): 10:13pm On Dec 04, 2020
ennyhola:
The headline is misleading
1)Weed legalization: He said since weed is making alot of money in the blackmarket, that is good for Nigeria to embrace the business part of cannabis like other countries.
Imagine legalizing and regulating weed? The government will generate Billions.
Are people not smoking it lowkey daily?

2)Embezzlement: He said “I won’t lie that I won’t embezzle, i will embezzle but i will do something great as a president”
You all are hypocrites if you think otherwise, which of these presidents don’t embezzle? They embezzle and still rub it on people’s faces!
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When u embezzle, others will follow suit and destroy those "good things" u wanted to do. Even as the president, u are not more powerful than some people u lead. They will blackmail u and pull u down if u try to stop their own embezzling. Leading honestly is still the best.
Christianity EtcRe: What It Truly Means To Be Born Again by FarmTech(m): 8:52pm On Nov 27, 2020
morinto:
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Everything Paul said was from the only spirit. Christ did not teach everything before going to heaven that is why he said a comforter is coming and he will teach u and direct u. So the holy spirit is a God which searches the heart of Jehovah and reveal it to paul
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That guys don't believe in other parts of the bible. He also, don't see anything wrong with immodesty, dirty jokes, dirty songs etc. U will argue with him tire. Very very unreasonable person.
Christianity EtcRe: What It Truly Means To Be Born Again by FarmTech(m):
alBHAGDADI:
There is no Bible verse that says you need something in addition to believe before you get to heaven. But there are tonnes of verses that say believe is all you need.

Here you are saying we need believe and work, even when the Bible says work is not needed but believes/faith alone.

Ephesians 2:8-9 KJV
8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves : it is the gift of God:
9 Not of works , lest any man should boast

The Bible went further to state that even someone who does no work but believes will be counted as righteous.

Romans 4:5 KJV
5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.


Sadly, you are trying to twist this clear scripture.
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U still don't get it. Romans 3:28-31
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For we maintain that a person is justified by faith apart from the works of the law.......Do we, then, nullify the law by this faith? Not at all! Rather, we uphold the law.
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Born again = 1st. faith in Christ Jesus + 2nd. Change in conducts, work, commandments
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Faith comes first!! Work follows!!
Faith justifies u, not works! This is the formula God have set for salvation.
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Jesus once said "if u luv me, keep my commandments"
Bible also says "work out your salvation with fear and trembling" Road to heaven is not easy!
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If u continue to sin in ur flesh, u will end up on hell. Don't allow some deceivers here to mislead u. There are tons of bible passages that say we shud live a holy and righteous life in the flesh and spirit. But no time to post them.
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Matthew 3:8
Prove by the way you live that you have repented of your sins and turned to God
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John 7:7 ►
The world can’t hate you, but it does hate me because I accuse it of doing evil.
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2 Corinthians 7:1
Since we have these promises, beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from every defilement of BODY and spirit, bringing holiness to completion in the fear of God.
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1 Peter 1:15-16
But as he who called you is holy, you also be holy in all your conduct, since it is written, “You shall be holy, for I am holy.”
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1 Thessalonians 4:7
For God has not called us for impurity, but in holiness.
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1 Peter 1:14-16
As obedient children, do not be conformed to the passions of your former ignorance, but as he who called you is holy, you also be holy in all your conduct, since it is written, “You shall be holy, for I am holy.
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Romans 12:1
I appeal to you therefore, brothers, by the mercies of God, to present your bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and acceptable to God, which is your spiritual worship.
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1 John 3:6-10
No one who abides in him keeps on sinning; no one who keeps on sinning has either seen him or known him. Little children, let no one deceive you. Whoever practices righteousness is righteous, as he is righteous. Whoever makes a practice of sinning is of the devil, for the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the works of the devil. No one born of God makes a practice of sinning, for God's seed abides in him, and he cannot keep on sinning because he has been born of God. By this it is evident who are the children of God, and who are the children of the devil: whoever does not practice righteousness is not of God, nor is the one who does not love his brother.
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Ephesians 5:3
But sexual immorality and all impurity or covetousness must not even be named among you, as is proper among saints.
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1 Thessalonians 5:23
Now may the God of peace himself sanctify you completely, and may your whole spirit and soul and body be kept blameless at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.
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2 Timothy 2:21 ESV / 829 helpful votes
Therefore, if anyone cleanses himself from what is dishonorable, he will be a vessel for honorable use, set apart as holy, useful to the master of the house, ready for every good work.
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Romans 6:19
I am speaking in human terms, because of your natural limitations. For just as you once presented your members as slaves to impurity and to lawlessness leading to more lawlessness, so now present your members as slaves to righteousness leading to sanctification.
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Ephesians 4:24
And to put on the new self, created after the likeness of God in true righteousness and holiness.
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1 Thessalonians 4:4
That each one of you know how to control his own body in holiness and honor,
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1 Thessalonians 4:3
For this is the will of God, your sanctification: that you abstain from sexual immorality;
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1 Peter 2:24
He himself bore our sins in his body on the tree, that we might die to sin and live to righteousness. By his wounds you have been healed.
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Ephesians 4:20-24
But that is not the way you learned Christ!— assuming that you have heard about him and were taught in him, as the truth is in Jesus, to put off your old self, which belongs to your former manner of life and is corrupt through deceitful desires, and to be renewed in the spirit of your minds, and to put on the new self, created after the likeness of God in true righteousness and holiness.
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1 John 3:3
And everyone who thus hopes in him purifies himself as he is pure.
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Philippians 4:8
Finally, brothers, whatever is true, whatever is honorable, whatever is just, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is commendable, if there is any excellence, if there is anything worthy of praise, think about these things.
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1 Corinthians 3:17
If anyone destroys God's temple, God will destroy him. For God's temple is holy, and you are that temple.
1 John 1:9
If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
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1 John 5:4
For everyone who has been born of God overcomes the world. And this is the victory that has overcome the world—our faith.
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3 John 1:11
Beloved, do not imitate evil but imitate good. Whoever does good is from God; whoever does evil has not seen God.

1 Corinthians 6:20
For you were bought with a price. So glorify God in your body.
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Psalm 97:10
O you who love the LORD, hate evil! He preserves the lives of his saints; he delivers them from the hand of the wicked.
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Psalm 119:1-3
Blessed are those whose way is blameless, who walk in the law of the LORD! Blessed are those who keep his testimonies, who seek him with their whole heart, who also do no wrong, but walk in his ways!
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James 1:27
Religion that is pure and undefiled before God, the Father, is this: to visit orphans and widows in their affliction, and to keep oneself unstained from the world.
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James 1:21
Therefore put away all filthiness and rampant wickedness and receive with meekness the implanted word, which is able to save your souls.
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1 Timothy 6:11
But as for you, O man of God, flee these things. Pursue righteousness, godliness, faith, love, steadfastness, gentleness.
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Romans 6:1-23
What shall we say then? Are we to continue in sin that grace may abound? By no means! How can we who died to sin still live in it? Do you not know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? We were buried therefore with him by baptism into death, in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, we too might walk in newness of life. For if we have been united with him in a death like his, we shall certainly be united with him in a resurrection like his. ...
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AgricultureRe: 500,000 Naira From One Plot Of Land In 90 Days. by FarmTech(mod): 10:32pm On Nov 23, 2020
okoroemeka:
well from my observations the best time to plant tomatoes and have less disease problems is dry season,but the best time to harvest and sell at a higher price is rainy season,we will be planting all year around if it works
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Thanks. I pray it work out well.
Christianity EtcRe: What It Truly Means To Be Born Again by FarmTech(m): 10:21pm On Nov 23, 2020
Kobojunkie:
Being born again has absolutely nothing to do with your outward appearance or your conducts as a person.
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I remember u clearly. U were the "Christian" that don't see anything wrong if people go naked, sing immoral songs and crack dirty jokes. U are just out to deliberately confuse people and if u don't repent, U will experience God's anger. Arguing with u is useless. Everyone shud just mark u and see the deceptive thrash u post.
Christianity EtcRe: What It Truly Means To Be Born Again by FarmTech(m): 10:15pm On Nov 23, 2020
kayuseful:
New birth often leads to a change of conducts, however, a change of conducts IS NOT the new birth. There are many who have quit all those things you mentioned but aren't born again.
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I agree and we are saying the same thing. New birth MUST come with change of conduct. Some people think that only their spirit can be born again, not their flesh.
Christianity EtcRe: What It Truly Means To Be Born Again by FarmTech(m): 10:13pm On Nov 23, 2020
alBHAGDADI:
I will advise that you go back and read the article very well. But before you do, let me explain a few things about the article.

It says our parents gave birth to us, and God gives birth to us when he saves us. When God gives birth to us, our spirit changes. It becomes like God. Since God doesn't sin, that spirit he gave birth to which is in us can never sin.

Now, our parents who gave birth to our flesh are sinners, so what they give birth to will also sin. That is why we sin in the flesh, but not in the spirit which God gave birth to.

When we die, that sinful flesh rots away while that perfect spirit goes to heaven. During the resurrection, we get given a new body which is actually the same old one but made new. This new body can never sin like the old one. That way our perfect spirit United with a perfect body and we become perfect with no ability to sin. That will happen during the resurrection.

So, you can now go back and read the article then come back and read this post.

Thank you
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In this our lives, we are not perfect. But we work towards perfection. We mature from spiritual childhood to spiritual adulthood. So u cannot say that it is only the spirit that matures and not the flesh. The grace of God shud not be distorted.
Christianity EtcRe: What It Truly Means To Be Born Again by FarmTech(m): 10:09pm On Nov 23, 2020
alBHAGDADI:
This is garbage doctrine. Sadly, you have no verse to back up your claim that heaven is only for those who obey the commandments of Jesus.

Look, heaven is for those who believe in Jesus, whether they obey his commandments or not. The below verse says even if you do not work, as long as you believe in Jesus, that faith makes you righteous and eligible for heaven in all certainty.

Romans 4:5 KJV
5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.

To support the above verse, the below verse which speaks on salvation says works don't save us but faith. Isn't that exactly what the previous verse is saying?

Ephesians 2:8-9 KJV
8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9 Not of works, lest any man should boast

But you claim we must work by obeying God's commandments otherwise no heaven for us. Sadly for you, you have no verse to back it up.

What we need is believe which gives us eternal life according to John 3:16. But a wicked liar like you has said that the eternal life means eternity which can be spent either in hell or heaven. You will never find any verse to back that lie up with.

Eternal life means life that never ends and with God which we get for believing in Jesus. Those who don't believe in Jesus get death.

Romans 6:23 KJV
For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

What is the death stated above? It is the death in the lake of fire.

Revelations 20:14 KJV
14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.


That is the death those who died without Jesus will face again, while those with eternal life get heaven and paradise. Don't you know that the opposite of life is death, yet you foolishly think eternal life can still lead to death. Thou fool, something eternal is everlasting. Therefore, eternal life has nothing to do with aà.
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Some corrections to make. Believing in Jesus alone will not take u to paradise oo. Belief shows itself in action. Jesus said: If u luv me, keep my commandments. You just single out some bible vses and misinterpret them. Let me give u the correct meaning of that Romans 4 u quoted:
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God is simply saying that if u want eternal life, u must believe in His Son. That MUST be the first step. After that, work follows. Work IS NOT the first step. Do u get it? Read Romans 3: 28,31 and u will see that faith comes first b4 work.
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Many Christians are perishing 2day because of this false teaching. Christ came so that he will put away sin in ur flesh and spirit.
Christianity EtcRe: What It Truly Means To Be Born Again by FarmTech(m): 11:44pm On Nov 22, 2020
kayuseful:
Obviously most commenters didn't read or understand the post.

In case you didn't get it: Born again is not the same as change of conducts. It's not "all those things I used to do, I do them no more". Born again means to BELIEVE IN JESUS AS YOUR SAVIOUR
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So to only believe without changing ur conducts is born again? I am beginning to understand why people who claim to be born again will dress like prostitutes, sing immoral songs, womanize and play with all sort of sins. May God help u people.

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