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Eko Ile:
You know the state did not do any economic and enviromental impact because you have inside knowledge about the project or you asked the state for one and they didn't give it to you or as usual, you are just running your mouth based on mindless ignorance the odious need to sound relevant?

Curb your sadism and speak about What you know and not what you have no clue about beyond your NL read and get sad routine.

Why don't you make an altar for him in a corner of your bedroom and  worship him when you wake up and before you sleep and probably five times more in between. And while at that where has "sadism" come into all this ? Obviously anyone who does not see things the same way as your god is a "sadist" . Stop using words which you don't understand and also meaningless phrases -  "mindless ignorance" , "odious need to sound relevant" , "running your mouth".
Haba ; like your god you obviously have no original thought in your head. Good luck to you both.

Beaf:
Aregbesola will build the road in the "dry season." LOLZZZ!!!
That guy is one heck of a useless governor.

When will he stop disturbing Fashola's work in Lagos and finally pack back home from Lagos? How can a governor rule by text message and letter from another state? Na wa!

This man's visions scare me.  Do you just build roads like that without considering the economic or environmental implications? I am finally beginning to agree that Aregbesola is a bore , a deluded individual and a glorified thug. His cabinet also is like him full of idea plagiarists with no original idea in their heads .  The result will obviously be confusion and failure which will be unfortunate because this Osun state is really a blessed state, poor maybe , but with astounding potentials. Do you do development on rhetoric ? No,you surround yourself with sound advice and not airy politicians . Osun state has a lot of professional doing astounding things internationally and who would just be pleased to help out if properly asked. Someone sit this guy down and tell him to stop smoking whatever it is that he has been smoking. Else kick him out of my state.

@OP
Why are you unable to sleep in church ? Maybe you need valium

If you want to pay your tithe pay ; and if you don't want to pay keep your money. It is your kind of tithe that I think God doesn't want - tithe from someone who is always complaining about paying tithe. No cheerfulness about it at all , and thinking God is a wicked armed robber to demand tithe.
Christians!

No wonder Ghaddafi felt betrayed by US . The West as he has failed to remember has no permanent friends , only permanent interest.. He paid dearly for his foolishness.

http://links.org.au/node/2468

Did Wikileaks reveal a US blueprint for Libya?

By Ali Abunimah

August 26, 2011 -- Electronic Intifada -- The US administrations of presidents George W. Bush and Barack Obama were set on developing deep “military to military” ties with the Libyan regime of Muammar Gaddafi, classified US diplomatic cables released by Wikileaks on August 24 reveal. The United States was keen to integrate Libya as much as possible into “AFRICOM”, the US military command for Africa which seeks to establish bases and station military forces permanently on the continent.

“We never would have guessed ten years ago that we would be sitting in Tripoli, being welcomed by a son of Muammar al-Qadhafi”, US Senator Joseph Lieberman said during an August 2009 meeting, which also included senators John McCain and Susan Collins.

The records confirm that McCain, the Republican presidential candidate in 2008, strongly supported US arms sales to Libya and personally pledged to Muammar Gaddafi (also spelled “al-Qadhafi”) and his son Muatassim that he would push to get such transfers approved by Congress. McCain also revealed that the United States was training officers in Gaddafi’s army.

While the Americans pursued the relationship vigorously, they met with a cautious and sometimes “mercurial” response from the Libyans. In particular, the mistrustful Libyans wanted security guarantees that the Americans appeared reluctant to give.

“We can get [equipment] from Russia or China”, Muatassim told the visiting senators, “but we want to get it from you as a symbol of faith from the United States”.

In hindsight, given the US support for the NATO war against the Gaddafi regime, it is not difficult to understand why the Libyans wanted these guarantees.

Nevertheless, Gaddafi received high praise for his “counterterrorism” credentials from US officials.

The documents also reveal that the United States was keen to court Gaddafi’s sons, flying them to the United States for high level visits.

And, notably, none of the cables regarding high level meetings quoted in this post made any mention of uS concerns about “human rights” in Libya. The issue never appeared on the bilateral agenda.

Does the removal of the Gaddafi regime now clear the way for the United States to pursue the plans for integrating Libya into AFRICOM under what the Americans must hope will be a pliable regime?

'Increased defence cooperation'

In January 2008, US Assistant Secretary of State David Welch met with Libyan Foreign Minister Abdulrahman Shalgam. The classified memo recording the meeting notes:

Welch underscored the importance of increased defense cooperation as a signal of normalcy in the bilateral military relationship, particularly when considering Libya’s relatively recent rescission from the state sponsors of terrorism in June 2006. A/S Welch added that the Libyan government should invite AFRICOM Commander General Ward to Libya to discuss AFRICOM in greater detail.

The Libyans responded positively but somewhat warily:

Shalgam voiced the Libyan government’s interest in discussing AFRICOM and welcomed General Ward’s visit. However, he cautioned, the old guard within the MOD [Ministry of Defense] does not favor closer ties with the USG [US government] (reftel). In particular, General Abubaker Younes, the second in command, is firmly against cooperation and will refuse to meet any American official as he views U.S. coalition forces in Iraq as an occupation force. Nonetheless, Shalgam explained that it is important for Ward to visit and dispel misinformation and mistrust of AFRICOM among the Libyan leadership. He reasserted Libya’s continued, strong objection to U.S. military forces in Africa.

Shalgam also raised the issue of six C-130 military transport planes that Libya had purchased from the United States in the early 1970s, but which were never delivered due to US sanctions that were imposed later on.

After President Barack Obama took office in January 2009, it appears General William Ward, the commander of AFRICOM did get his invitation to visit Libya the following March. Before his visit, Ward received a classified briefing document from the US Embassy in Tripoli setting out US priorities and goals in Libya as well as providing insights into the regime.

The US document notes that after Libya settled various claims to do with terrorism cases including the Pan Am 103 Lockerbie bombing, it:

allowed us to move forward on the Mil-Mil MOU [Military to Military Memorandum of Understanding], which was signed in Washington in January. It also increased the number of high-level visits between the two countries including Saif al-Islam al-Qadhafi’s two-week trip to the US in November and his brother Muatassim al-Qadhafi’s trip to Washington planned for April.

The memo again notes the mistrust on the Libyan side:

Despite the high-level interest in deepening the relationship, several old-guard regime figures remain skeptical about the re-engagement project and some facets of our interaction remain at the mercy of the often mercurial inner circle.

This was a reference to Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi, whom the Americans note, often appeared cooler than his sons.

Seducing Libya on AFRICOM

Ward’s brief, according to the classified cable, was to help overcome Libyan suspicion of US military expansion into Africa. The document advises the general:

Since the former Secretary of State’s visit to Tripoli in September, regime officials have slowly come to terms with AFRICOM as we have explained more of your mission. A clear explanation of AFRICOM’s mandate and expected activities on the continent, as well as a two-way discussion on areas of military-to-military cooperation will be welcomed by your interlocutors.

Reiterating AFRICOM’s support and humanitarian roles while allaying their fears about American troops or bases on the continent is another message they will be keen to receive. While Libya is a strong partner on counterterrorism, the Libyans remain wary of initiatives that put foreign military or intelligence assets too close to their borders. They are unlikely to join the Trans-Sahara Counter Terrorism Partnership, due as much to unwillingness to appear subservient to US interests as genuine distrust of U.S. intentions from certain old-guard regime elements. Negotiations on the Mil-Mil MOU [Military to Military Memorandum of Understanding] stalled on Libyan insistence that the language include security assurances on par with our NATO obligations. AFRICOM’s capacity-building component and support for peacekeeping forces may appease some, but we expect your military interlocutors will use your visit as an opportunity to tie their cooperation to security assurances.

Gaddafi is a 'Top partner'

The Ward memo states:

Libya is a top partner in combating transnational terrorism. The regime is genuinely concerned about the rise of Islamic terrorism in the Sahel and Sahara and worries that instability and weak governments to their south could lead to a “belt of terrorism” stretching from Mauritania to SOMALIA. Al-Qadhafi prides himself on his recent initiatives with Tuareg tribes to persuade them to lay down arms and spurn cooperation with al-Qaeda elements in the border region; this is an issue worth exploring with him, while being mindful that he will oppose U.S. military activity in what he views as his backyard.

US arms sales to Libya

Throughout bilateral discussions, the Ward briefing memo notes, “Libyan officials have been keen to purchase US military equipment - both lethal and non-lethal.” It adds:

Libyan officials presented “wish lists” in the context of signing the Mil-Mil MOU. Muatassim [Gaddafi] accompanied his father on a high-profile trip to Moscow in October to discuss potential deals, but his father’s trips to Belarus and Ukraine were seen as an attempt to bring the price-point down for weapons deals. Their wish-lists comprise both lethal and non-lethal materiel and we have told the GOL that sales will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis, particularly since not all senior USG leaders who would have a say on the subject have been appointed by the new administration.

The Americans were clearly open to selling weapons to Gaddafi, but were noncommital, as Ward was advised:

In effect, the Libyans have made military sales a key litmus of US trust and future intentions. In response, you might say that the U.S. looks forward to developing the bilateral security relationship and this process will take time; the C130s are a commercial matter best pursued with Lockheed-Martin.

The memo to General Ward concludes:

We are confident that your visit to Tripoli will open new doors for continued cooperation. Military cooperation is a key metric to determine the extent to which the Libyan government wishes to engage with the US. We hope your visit will assuage the fears of the more conservative elements of the regime while paving the way for AFRICOM’s continued success.

Senator McCain pushes for weapons sales

During his August 2009 visit to Tripoli, according to the classified record of the meeting, Senator John McCain was frank about his support for Libya’s weapons requests in a meeting with Muammar and Muatassim Gaddafi:

Senator MCCAIN assured Muatassim that the United States wanted to provide Libya with the equipment it needs for its security. He stated that he understood LIBYA’s requests regarding the rehabilitation of its eight C-130s (ref D) and pledged to see what he could do to move things forward in Congress. He encouraged Muatassim to keep in mind the long-term perspective of bilateral security engagement and to remember that small obstacles will emerge from time to time that can be overcome. He described the bilateral military relationship as strong and pointed to Libyan officer training at U.S. Command, Staff, and War colleges as some of the best programs for Libyan military participation.

A blueprint for post-Gaddafi Libya?

Nothing in the leaked documents reviewed here suggests that the NATO-backed removal of the Gaddafi regime was premeditated. On the contrary, the documents show that the United States was more enthusiastic about working with Gaddafi than perhaps Gaddafi was with the Americans – though clearly both stood to gain.

The US sought to expand its military presence in Africa and Gaddafi wanted to secure his regime against external threats.

At no point were human rights concerns ever an obstacle tous engagement for either the George W. Bush or Obama administrations.

The documents support the view that the decision to go to war against Gaddafi – in the name of “protecting civilians” was more opportunistic – riding on the back of the “Arab Spring”.

It is likely that after the toppling of the Tunisian and Egyptian presidents by popular uprisings in January and February respectively, top US and NATO decisionmakers believed that once protests started against it, the Gaddafi regime would be too unstable and unreliable to deal with.

Yet, the regime also fought back against the uprising in Libya with a ferocity that exceeded even the violence of the Tunisian and Egyptian regimes. It appears likely that US and allied leaders calculated that with a little push from their bombs, the balance could quickly be tipped in favour of the rebellion.

This mindset is clear from the claim in February – a month before the NATO intervention began – by UK Foreign Secretary William Hague, that Gaddafi had already fled to Venezuela. It was also clear from statements by US military and political leaders, once the bombing began, that the US military role would only last for days.

As it turned out, the war has so far lasted five months, and is not over. The full-extent of atrocities by NATO-backed rebels and Gaddafi loyalists are only now starting to come to light.

But just as the Americans were happy to work with Gaddafi, they will be as keen to work with his successors, who now owe their positions to foreign intervention.

The US must hope that the National Transitional Council (NTC) which the US has recognised as the new government will be less mercurial and even more open to “military to military,” and other kinds of ties.

^^^^^ For perspective that is about 25% of the total population of Libya

Haven't you ever heard the saying "there is no free bomb" ?
Nigeria is next I guess.

Can't you people see the joke ?
The three cases are EFCC, ICPC and NPF  !

felifeli:
You are a slowpoke . If your own parents brought you up as well as these little girls will grow up to be, you will not be on  the internet cursing people you don't even know. Sorry if you have been all your life in situation where your parents  couldn't afford to buy clothes for you and send you to a good school and good hospital. That is why you  can't even get your spellings right and you still think like a lunatic. If you are indeed in America as you claim to be I can only be afraid to think about what you may be doing there which does not involve hard work.
Are those kids on the highway ? If so then we need to worry. From all indication they are all neighborhood  kids sent out by their mothers to sell some stuff within the neighborhood  probably not for the money  but just so that she could do some work at home without interruption as many hard working mother often do . Foe some of us it wasn't to sell things, it could be an errand to a far away place to collect something that doesn't exist. Apparently you never had such kind of parents. Because you were abused in this manner when you were a child does not mean life is always like that. Sorry o .

I can also see several craddle-robbers here ogling the poor little girls (oooooooh dainty little girl with such sweet faces . yummy !). Go get a life you sickos.

I didn't say slowpoke o , I said m.o.r.o.n . I didn't say craddle robbers either I said pae.do.phile

NRI PRIEST:
@felifeli or whatever they call u,u can never compare porverty with affluence, if this is the only way u think one can get wiser and tougher then may it come to u ten folds, silly person, have u ever been in a situation where u culdnt afford to buy good clothes for your children,send them to good school,good hospital? suffering doest make anyone wiser,stronger or more successful in life, if the parents of these kid had money they will never send these innocent children to the streets to hawk.it is very  dangerous.

You are a slowpoke . If your own parents brought you up as well as these little girls will grow up to be, you will not be on  the internet cursing people you don't even know. Sorry if you have been all your life in situation where your parents  couldn't afford to buy clothes for you and send you to a good school and good hospital. That is why you  can't even get your spellings right and you still think like a lunatic. If you are indeed in America as you claim to be I can only be afraid to think about what you may be doing there which does not involve hard work.
Are those kids on the highway ? If so then we need to worry. From all indication they are all neighborhood  kids sent out by their mothers to sell some stuff within the neighborhood  probably not for the money  but just so that she could do some work at home without interruption as many hard working mother often do . Foe some of us it wasn't to sell things, it could be an errand to a far away place to collect something that doesn't exist. Apparently you never had such kind of parents. Because you were abused in this manner when you were a child does not mean life is always like that. Sorry o .

I can also see several pedophiles here ogling the poor little girls (oooooooh dainty little girl with such sweet faces . yummy !). Go get a life you sickos.

Child abuse !!!
LMAO

@Poster
Dem refuse to give you credit ?
Those kids will grow up wiser than the ones you have at home watching Tom and Jerry and all other similar Western trash values and begging mummy and daddy to take them to beach and tantalizer.
Those kids will grow up hard working and self reliant , not sitting on Nairaland blaming Jonathan and Obasanjo and devil for all the problems of their lives. I like these kids. You call it abuse they (the kids) call it FUN .

So what kind of banking is being presently done in Nigeria then. Devil banking ?

Why are civilian Libyans in Tripoli rejoicing ?
It is because at last NATO will stop terrorizing them with bombs,
Ope o!

all4naija:
^^^^
Are you telling me it's a single tribe that is responsible for the rebel group? Leave that tribal talk aside and Libyans know about that before going about the war.

I think Libya will be better off than what people are making it to look like here. Even those who benefited from Gaddafi regime are fed up of[b] the man tyranny[/b]. No war order than this. As far as it couldn't happen during the time Gaddafi assassinated the King and the only son that fled to US tribe didn't call for war so, I can't see something like that happening when Gaddafi have terrorized both friends and foes in the country.

There is nothing wrong in addressing every angle. But, I still think this will be the last war for the time being.

I am not telling you anything sir. Frankly for me you don't exist in this discussion. I also advise that you go look up your dictionary for the meaning of "tyranny'. Cheers

Gaddaffi had to go anyway. He had become too power drunk for his own good and clearly like a real  African king he has begun to feels that he is the all-wise and beyond reproach. It is the matter of who takes over that is the problem.
The whole world will soon see that the rebels are fighting for a new Gaddafi-like replacement ; the new March 7 "god' of liberation.  i predict that fool who calls himself the leader of NTC will be executed next ; give them 3 months , and then the West will begin to see pepper.
As someone mentioned Aljazeera , the superpower countries have no friends; only "interests" and in matters like this their decision are never moral ; and that is why we have seen the forceful ouster of a person they don't like under some cooked up ideals. After Gaddafi, let;s see who NATO begins to point its gun at in Libya. The situation will make Iraq and Somalia like child's play. If Italy's Mussolini could be woken up he would have reminded them that Libyans are mad dogs and they have no friends either , only heroes.
If Gaddafi dies now he becomes a martyr and for next hundred years Libya will burn with inter tribal wars. I am already sorry for libya

Do these devices work in Nigeria ? How do they function ? Do they have sim card ?

I urgently need a USB modem which can run on both Windows and Linux. Any offers ?
I am in Ibadan

Damn too funny. It reminds me of the Ugly Britain thread on Nairaland about 2 years ago. can we say Pafun is a prophet or is he the one that mobilised  

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2011-07-29-libya-rebel-chief-slain_n.htm


Thousands marched in Younis' funeral procession on Friday, as men draped the rebel tricolor flag over his coffin and carried it to a cemetery, where he was buried.

Younis' son, Ashraf, broke down, crying and screaming as they lowered the body into the ground.

"We want Moammar to come back! We want the green flag back!" he shouted at the crowd, betraying his frustration with the months of chaos in the country and a desire for a return to normalcy.

At the funeral, Younis' nephew Mohammad al-Obaidi called Younis a martyr and a champion of the Libyan uprising, while the crowd broke into chants of "The martyr is God's beloved" and "Allah is Great."


Cry the beloved country !

, and recognises Ghaddafi's libya as "Legitimate military target" . How unfortunate !
When this news hit the BBC web site 3 days ago, they were so inundated with negative comments against the hopeless government of Cameron , that by midday the website had switched off its comments completely else with the killing of the rebel commander next day , the website will not have been able to handle the flood of comments against the government. The comments have not yet been opened till this minute and I suspect the government has commanded that it be switched off in same way they asked NATO planes to go destroy Libya's TV.
This country is a huge joke. It is funny though that it still insists on carrying on like it is a country to be reckoned with rather than a spent force.

My prayer is for US to default in his debts even for a couple of days , so that the US, UK and France can finally understand their miserable status , and get their foolish leaders thrown out . As for Obama , he is a disgrace : talks like a black man, walks like a black man and thinks like a white m.o.nkey. I pray they kick his black a.ss out of government. When white american leaders oppress africans we understand the reason, but when a black leader does the same we know who he is trying to impress. Bros no second term for you unfortunately. I will be happy to see you go. You are a disgrace to africa.

[s]Is anyone selling cars and 4WD on hire purchase ? If so what do you have and what are your terms ?[/s]

My mobile phone company is always sending me sms saying something like , send name to 38665 to download . N50 per sms. I have a client who want to use it for a product ad campaign. thanks

May God save our youths from the consequences of joblessness . And if you are a RCCG member or you attend church service and you are joining fools to post careless stuff about your leader you should not be surprised if no progress happens to your life again , because you have become a maggot in the good fruit.

this fake prophet again

It is very simple !
1.How many of you use all those wow features on your mobile phone on a daily basis ? They eventually become a nuisance after a few days of use.

2.If I wake you up from sleep and ask you which one you will choose , will it be Facebook or Google+ . Your answer should tell you where this is all going. Admit it Google+ sounds like some kind of medicine .

The reason that many people I know have not joined Facebook is that they think it is TIME WASTING . However to the rest of us the attraction of Facebook is SIMPLICITY . You can log in, quickly check what your friends are doing , and get out in a few minutes to do productive work elsewhere. I certainly don't want to spend all of my day doing video chat - that is for kids , and let's face it kids will not pay the bills for Google+ - It is not going to

Having migrated from Myspace , I can say that Facebook has all that most of the users want : REMAINING IN CONTACT WITH FRIENDS ON THE RUN.

TECNO T9 is good though. You can install new Java apps , and it's got other impressive features including touch screen and fantastic video and jukebox . Battery life is not bad too 2-3 days. Anyway for me one good phone is as good as other regardless of brand.

It depends on what you consider "good wife material". Yes, a lady from a broken home appears more likely to be truthful about a relationship and to leave if it is getting dangerous. While a lady from a "normal" home is more likely to continue bearing malice and making the man's life hell and may even proceed to kill him  instead of getting divorce.
Which one do you prefer , killer or quitter ? Also a lady from a broken home might be more conscious of what can break a marriage and could therefore strive to prevent it happening. The other lady will be too confident that "nothing can happen" and so continue to torment the man on that basis (just like her mother did to her father and got away with it)

What does this phone do that other phones cannot ? please educate me.

Is there anyone who knows how to extend this ? I got a gift of it and the battery lasts less than half day