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I saw a customs hilux chasing one seriously overloaded Honda Academy in Katsina. The hilux had a metal bar with stuff like spikes in front of the bumper. I guess the Honda guy just came into the country and the goods were contraband. The gap between the two cars was a bit wide considering that the Honda was carrying so much weight but I hear smugglers are super drivers. They weaved in and out of traffic, the road and out of sight. No how wey that smuggler for escape sha.

drtee247:
That's to show you that his prayers is the most important thing to him.. We are in this world like travellers, we are not here to stay forever..

If his prayers are so important he shouldn't have taken a job would interfere with them.

You shouldn't make your worship of God a burden to others. There has to be a practical balance between worshipping God and being a useful human being.

That is not Kaduna state. It's Katsina. I experienced that nuisance a lot when I served there. Sometimes even the road is free but the driver will decide that he must stop at a roadside mosque and pray, passengers be damned. Too many people don't know how to be religious.

SirWere:
Why should I have to have "faith" in something that's true

Sometimes the truth is very strange and unpalatable. Grotesque, macabre, repulsive. When the truth takes such forms it's too easy to dismiss it as a lie. Those of us that work with faith can recognize the signs that something which we want so badly to be false is probably true. Once we see those signs our faith kicks in and we just accept it. You have to be able to recognize the signs, however.

A buffalo. Don't ask why.

Lol. How can you tell that you're a buffalo?

SirWere:
This is a perfect example of Murphy's Law here

finofaya is being sarcastic about the possibility of a miracle here, while MrMarvelous and LoJ are taking him with seriousness and are repling his claim like he's for real.

Meanwhile wiegraf is sarcastically defending the prophet while GoodMuyis thinks he's for real.


Nairaland is indeed a comedy zoo

Your lack of faith in the truth on display here is your downfall bro.

Nairaland can be a real zoo tho, cos of how the anonymity makes us young, wild and free. Which animal are you?

Ayinke93:
Hahahahahaha just like your signature states, you are a complete Almighty goat. If u can believe this show of shame, and even compare it to Jesus walking on water ?? Mehn I give up on you

Look who's talking. Lol. It's a prophet of God like this man that deigned to make pronouncements on your love life, which you bought. You need to expand your faith and buy this miracle claim too, please.

izublingz:
Lol sharap

You think it is legit because he is a pastor.

Deceive yourself!

Abeg shift. What do you even know. Ordinary English you can't read.

LoJ:
So it was the shadow of god moving there? and he forgot to close the door while leaving? Well...

Maybe. And maybe God used his ever ready instruments, other men of faith, to work this wonder.

I forgot about Poe's law there tho.

Rice is delicious after you've cooked it deliciously.

LoJ:
You saw the feet levitate...

And you could not see the shadows indicating someone came in when the camera zoomed in and stood close by? You did not hear the noise of the door being opened at some point and being closed at the end? You did not see the door totally closed at the beginning of the video, and only half closed at the end? Perhaps an angel came while the camera zoomed and opened the door and forgot to close it well? But why would the angel fear the camera, since angels have already appeared in his church?

Are you that gullible?

We are talking about a miracle here for God's sake. Something which defies the laws of physics. I'm not going to get hung up on misplaced shadows or possibly improperly fastened doors. Curious things happen when the almighty visits.

Your skepticism is unhealthy.

MrMarvelous:
Oh I believe in miracles alright...how else could a grown ass adult believe that charlatan could actually float/fly?

Surely it's miraculously daft of anyone to believe that.

Well you saw both his feet leave the ground and glide forward. I don't know what you want again. I'm sure you've seen thousands of levitation clips and you know it's not a big deal to exhibit levitation on video. I'm also sure you don't consider any of those other videos miraculous. Such video evidence does not move you, and neither does it move me, but my sixth sense given to me by the Ghost tells me he's legit. It's fine if you don't have it but don't confuse it's absence in you for any mental acuity on your part.

MrMarvelous:
For one I no believe that video as miracle.

That's not saying much, when you don't even believe that there truly are such things as miracles. Try again.

MrMarvelous:
But you mumu sha...shay you know?

How you take know say you no mumu?

hahn:
Blessed are the gullible for they believe with faith

Healthy skepticism requires you to know when to stop asking questions. The way this prophet flapped his feet about in the air like he was swimming made me realize that the Holy Ghost inspired him with a marine mindset and filled his mind with visions of the water that Jesus walked on. I stopped questioning at that point.

I believe Jesus Christ walked on water even though I didn't see him do it with my own eyes. How much more this pastor whose feet I saw floating? I am convinced of the truth of this miracle.

And yet atheists are the ones worried about revealing their atheism to their theist families, friends and acquaintances, with good reason. OP, pull your parents legs by telling them you're atheist and observe how they react to your disclosure without anger and aggression.

People, such as those who lived before Jesus' time, have gotten salvation without knowing of Jesus. Arguably they were saved by their ignorance. in a sense then, ignorance saves, just as Jesus saves. Why do you wish to interfere with some people's saving ignorance?

These are good for the proposed Church of Crass in Nigeria. Let's add Lana Del Rey's Money Power Glory to that list. Amen.

jonbellion:
lol
You really have time bro
You really have time

Lol. Sometimes you get the urge to swat that fly...

If you had any concern about your mental well being I think you should have first eliminated the abuse you allegedly received as the cause of your psychological state. There are too many atheists who are at least reasonably well adjusted psychologically for you to make such a sweeping claim based on your sample of one. Many of us are certainly not in the mental space that caused the abusive behaviour in the story you related, despite our being atheists.

Theists have as much freedom to sin as atheists, if not more, since God can justify even the most heinous acts. So if you became an atheist in a bid to sin more, you definitely didn't think the matter through.

In conclusion, atheists don't tell people the things you have written in your OP because your story and motivations are personal and other atheists are not you. In addition, they also prefer to share the actual bases for atheism rather than emotional nonsense. That's not to make light of your experiences and your struggles tho.

Na so I nearly die for there last week. The volume of traffic, especially the slow moving trucks, leads a lot of drivers to get frustrated and overtake recklessly. I nearly slammed into one bike that decided to do a u turn without checking both lanes, probably cos it hadn't registered with him that the road is now one lane. Same trip I saw another bike guy lying unconscious on his stomach and bleeding from his nose and mouth. The maintenance has taken about a month now and needs to finish soon abeg.

peacesamuel94:
You are still judging from the physical perspective, I guess I'll have to stop here, cause we will end up going in circles.

Lol. You're making that up, but okay.

hahn:
Father - Manslaughter
Human beings - beatings
Jesus - suicide

They should all be tried and persecuted

. Go and arrest them and come.

hahn:
And the other point?

Did his father murder him?

I am sure they all had a meeting on what was best to save earth, right?

Manslaughter is more likely. But then his father is not the one who gave him the beating of his life. Human beings with free will did that.

I can't say if they had a meeting since the divine system of decision making has not been revealed yet but I would hope that wide consultations were made and the options were carefully considered.

hahn:
But he is his father. Remember the trinity? HOw can he be coerced by himself? Unless you want to say his father murdered him

The trinity is three persons. Neither one is the other.

hopefulLandlord:
did he die on the cross?

He was attached to the cross when he died.

hahn:
The bible also reports that Jesus dying was part of god's plan. And Jesus was privy of it yet they came and died. That is suicide. Do you think drinking otapiapia is the only was to commit suicide?

He did change his mind at one point but he was coerced by the Father. I don't think he wanted to die.

hopefulLandlord:
okay, Jesus didn't die on the cross?

He did, after being thoroughly beaten. No autopsy was performed so we don't know the exact cause of death.

hopefulLandlord:
Jesus committed assisted suicide

Which suicide again? The Bible reports a lynching.

I don't know whether to classify it as a suicide. Dicey stuff.

peacesamuel94:
The only universe here is the one we exist in, God doesn't live in a universe, because it is material, and He is Immaterial.

But since you are an atheist, who doesn't believe in spirits then I expect that you will only view this from the physical perspective.

I am assuming that God exists and it does so in an immaterial universe. Universe here means the place or state God exists in, that is the place from whence you say it created this universe. You can refer to this place by any name you find suitable.

In any event the question we are concerned with is existence and it applies to both the material and immaterial. This universe and God are both things which exist so if you say complexity has an effect on the way things exist, naturally this effect has to apply to all things that exist.

As a result God cannot escape your alleged problem of complexity.

peacesamuel94:
Like I said before, God is not a component or part of the universe, He exists independent of the universe because he is Immaterial.

God created the universe, is different from God exist in the universe. So its not adding to the complexity.

You're not quite addressing my point. Look at it this way: God exists in its own universe and we exist in ours. The two universes combined are more complex than one alone without God. That's the gist of what I'm saying.