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OLAADEGBU:
Which ones doesn't resonate with you?

I asked you 2 questions. Answer them first.

OLAADEGBU:
The 10 commandments cover all rights and wrongs and it resonates within every conscience universally.

There are only 10 rights and wrongs in your universe?

Where did you get the idea that they resonate with everyone? The commandments don't all resonate with me, for starters.

Such a vague question.

OLAADEGBU:
Does that mean you refused to view the objective morality of God in that link?

What objective morality of God? I did not visit the linked site, no. You still haven't told me what makes the objective morality of God objective.

OLAADEGBU:
You may as well answer it in this link to see what absolute (objective) morality is all about. ==> www.needGod.com

Lol. I like how you execute your cop outs.

OLAADEGBU:
Yes, that is the absolute Moral Law. Have you answered it? How well did you fair?

What does that have to do with anything?

OLAADEGBU:
Answer these objective moral questions and see which ones doesn't resonate with your conscience.

Have I always loved God my Creator with all my heart, mind, soul and strength? ____YES ___NO
Have I made a god in my own image? a god to suit myself? ____YES ___NO
Have I ever used God's name in vain? ____YES ___NO
Have I kept the Sabbath holy? ____YES ___NO
Have I always honoured my parents implicitly? ____YES ___NO
Have I murdered (God also considers hatred as murder)? ____YES ___NO
Have I committed adultery (including premarital sex and lust)? ____YES ___NO
Have I stolen (the value is irrelevant)? ____YES ___NO
Have I lied (including fibs and these questions)? ____YES ___NO
Have I coveted (been greedy or materialistic)? ____YES ___NO

The ten commandments? That's the entire objective moral code you have? Kai

Bush baby. What does this have to do with atheists?

OLAADEGBU:
What is wrong is wrong. Would you for any reason permit a thief to get away with your wallet if you can? I believe all cultures and societies consider stealing to be an objective immoral conduct, no?

Saying that a wrong thing is wrong is not a meaningful statement. That's like saying a bright thing is bright.

Listing one thing that many people consider wrong does not help your case. It doesn't establish that there are objective rights and wrongs. I can simply list other things that people don't agree on such as pre marital sex, eating shellfish or child marriages and say that they preclude the existence of objective morality.

antifailure:
. Study my topic very well or create a counter thread, I did not say men are not dangerous or men are not doing evil, I only said why women are MORE dangerous than men.

Study your topic well. It's a pretty strange topic, who is the more dangerous gender. I wonder what you hope to achieve with it. In any event, you may wish to consider the number of mass murderers and violent criminals we have had who have been men. I'll leave you to your odd comparisons.

OLAADEGBU:
The Infinite uncreated Creator has the authority to set the rules for our morality and His has the absolute moral standard that He has set into our consciences.



The objective moral values are their in our consciences it is up to us whether we choose to either take heed to it or muffle it.

Maybe your creator has the authority to do so. That has no bearing on the objectiveness of whatever rules he sets. Tell me what it is that makes the moral standard objective.

How do you know that your conscience tells you the same things that mine tells me? Or that anyone else's tells them?

antifailure:
Either you are a female or you are too soft to accept facts backed up with references. my people are destroyed because they lack knowledge. even as i,m typing this now, prostitutes are still destroying some men out there. Some women are dangerous.

What about the male prostitutes? Or the evil men? What about Lucifer, a male person? You are misogynistic and you probably don't know it. You just think it's normal to have such a skewed perspective.

You just bush anyhow like antelope.

Where did you get the idea that the Creator desires an interaction with anybody, much less a relationship?

The problem of finding objective moral values is not solved by calling on a God who decides what the moral values are. Objective moral values have to be independent of every moral agent, and God, like man, is a moral agent.

Besides, we live in a world where there is no consensus as to what the objective moral values are, if any. Everyone, theists and atheists alike, disagrees on what it might be. Most of us are probably wrong about what it is, which is the same thing as not knowing what it is. Any objective moral values which exist are currently of no use to humanity since most or all of us don't know them. Looking for a moral code which allows us to coexist in harmony is a more worthwhile pursuit than squabbling over where we can find objective morality. If such a thing were to be found we most likely still wouldn't follow it anyway since you can hardly convince everyone of it. For example, assume you are right and whatever moral code you follow is indeed objective. Now tell me what effect your discovery of this objective morality has had on our moral landscape. Does telling people that it is objective cause them to adopt it?

Yes. It's His Noodliness the Flying Spaghetti Monster.

I hear there are people that can even sing in tongues. Like, take your average hymn and sing it in tongues. Frankly something like that would be wonderful to behold. Forget speaking in tongues.

That is so weird

An overwhelming majority of people do not believe in jesus Christ and his teachings. You should be worried for yourself.

None of the reasons for believing that God exists are compelling to me, hence my atheism.

The guy who refused to buy the phone is quite the extremist, I agree, if religion was his only reason for making that decision.

Lol. Doesn't God show itself to the living anymore?

What about freewill? Does God not care about preserving it anymore?

Say sorry and lend them support (money, logistics, pure horsepower). Most people who are bereaved don't really pay attention to the wording of your condolence anyway, especially since you're probably the 200th person to console them. You can also start a conversation with them about the deceased wherein you eulogize the person a little. Keep in mind that few people know the right thing to say to the bereaved, so you're not doing as poorly as you imagine.

Of course, you're not going to say "rest in peace", are you?

Edit: The bereaved has in all likelihood also contemplated some form of the question of the right thing to say to a bereaved person. So, unless they were able to come up with many wonderful answers, they might also appreciate the difficulty involved and be prepared to accept clichés. Your presence will count more than what you have to say.

Lol. This is more in their interest than that of subscribers. Subscriptions to premium should increase after this.

Anything that happens to you is part of your destiny.

You use revenge to get even. To repay a wrong and quiet your emotions. As much as possible anyway.

I say keeping people in check because it's one of the things people will consider if they are about to act against your interest. Knowing that you they won't be able to enjoy the benefits of their act in peace will disincentivize them.

Yes, jail is inclusive. I'm taking revenge to also include punishment for crimes.

Now that you say revenge is not a deterrent I think we have to agree on what we mean when we say revenge.

itstpia8:
Revenge is not practical, and quite frequently is not really about any perceived "offence" but more about greed or envy.

When a genuine crime has been committed, that's a different scenario. Say someone does a crime that breaks a law, you can either seek legal redress after identifying the exact law/s broken, or take matters into your own hands, in which case, same revenge scenario will apply to you. If you have no case, then God help you.

I think it is a good way to keep people in check. I see what you mean about greed and envy though. It's a shame that it happens but we shouldn't throw the baby out with the bathwater.

I don't think retribution should be reserved for criminals alone.

I think revenge is in order because of the deterrent purpose it serves. I don't think it's enough to let people be guided solely by their conscience since most people are not as selfless as they like to imagine. We are human and prone to error so we need all the help we can get and the threat of punishment for wrongdoing is part of the help we need. Of course you have to pursue your revenge legally. Revenge is simply a practical reality.

Kyase:
Well aware, I stay at nissi village around refinery.
150 per litre yesterday and this morning but this evening, it became 120 per litre
But wait oooo okot sell 150 yesterday night.

From the black market? Okot no be better filling station na. That 150 is more like 230. When bought fuel there late last year I ended up paying 16k for 100 litres though they claimed they were selling at 95 or so. And it's not everybody that can afford to spend ages trying to buy from a filling station.

Kyase:
I buy fuel yesterday and this evening for motor so I just want know which side you dey ........

How much did you buy it? I live at Sabo and work at Ahmadu Bello way. I've tried to buy fuel as far away as Kawo and Bypass. Are you aware of the ban on the black marketers?

bigmodo:
you are judging me. Na people like you dey worst pass.

Judgment comes from God. Is he the worst? Guy park well. If you can't be careful enough to avoid impregnating people, you have to choose between the abortion and carrying to term and make peace with your choice.

Kyase:
I know, which side?
Because I dey capital since last month.

Toh. Comot from your house. Go and price a gallon of fuel.

Kyase:
I know, which side?
Because I dey capital since last month.

Duplicate post.

You refused to release inside. Now you're aiding abortion. God will not forgive. Exercise more caution as you await judgment.