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finofaya:
FOLYKAZE

Do these your Gods have personhood? The way I see it you are simply giving me synonyms. Eg., Shakti is a synonym for energy. Brahma is a synonym for reality.

Lol My guy dey jump from Uncaused/uncreated God to personal God.

Anyway yes they have personhood.

The Government giving Biafra dirty slap

macof:
But why do Christians like you, threaten non Christians especially atheists of the horror God will do if they continue with disbelief? Will a God that doesn't care if you believe or not bother punishing you for your disbelief?

Actually it's your type that make god seem like he is threatened by our disbelief...we only speak out what we read from your utterances about God

Change God there to Idealogical Law.

Does it make sense?

wiegraf:
...ladies and gentlemen of this supposed jury, I have one final thing I want you to consider. Ladies and gentlemen, this is Chewbacca. Chewbacca is a Wookiee from the planet Kashyyyk. But Chewbacca lives on the planet Endor. Now think about it; that does not make sense!

Why would a Wookiee, an eight-foot tall Wookiee, want to live on Endor, with a bunch of two-foot tall Ewoks? That does not make sense! But more important, you have to ask yourself: What does this have to do with this case? Nothing. Ladies and gentlemen, it has nothing to do with this case! It does not make sense! Look at me. I'm a humble man trying to educate a m.oron, and I'm talkin' about Chewbacca! Does that make sense? Ladies and gentlemen, I am not making any sense! None of this makes sense! And so you have to remember, when you're in that jury room deliberatin' and conjugatin' the Emancipation Proclamation, does it make sense? No! Ladies and gentlemen of this supposed jury, it does not make sense! If Chewbacca lives on Endor, you must acquit! Reason rests.

And the coward runaway. . . . Oshamo. Runway!.

finofaya:
From the OP:



Don't start with that theatre gallery stuff again, abeg.

This contradict your submission here:

finofaya:
I don't think it is the same question. Whatever God is, it may or may not be capable of proof by us.
If the God is tied to any religion, the conclusion is valid only for that religion. I tried to use a description that can apply across the board.

I will look away from thi anyway.

Brahman and Eledumare still not made up what you called God? Shakti is the uncaused and uncreated God in Shakyism which in plain sense is Universal energy. This God is powerful and created the universe according to Shaktism and Shaivism sect of Hinduism. Shakti literally mean 'to be able' which intercept with physics which states that energy is ability to do. Energy wa/is not created and it is worshipped as the uncreated creator in hinduism. Shakta worship the energy which is not created as Goddess shakti.

Does Shaktism fall short of what we call or you call God? Do you ask for the evidence of Energy? Why then do you ask for the evidence of shakti - a goddess which is energy?

On the other note, are the Gods that do not create the universe does not made up what we call God here? What do you then call Sango which represent eletrical energy? Or Yemoja which represent watrr? Or Ogun which represent Iron? Are they not Gods considering they do not partake in th creation of the universe?

Are those cause uncaused God not God?


On Brahman, this is the creation God of hinduism. The earth and everything in it was created by this God. In the plain sense, Brahman is Ultimate Reality. This constract Maya, "the changing, illusory world of appearance. Hinduism is deep rooted in existentislism and psychology. The Gods are mostly representation of realities and consciousness.

One of the key concepts of Hinduism is the belief in an ultimate reality called Brahman which is the source of all living things in this universe. Brahman is the ground of all reality and existence. Brahman is uncreated, external, infinite and all-embracing. It is the ultimate cause and goal of all that exists. It is One and it is All. All beings emanate from Brahman; all beings will return back to the same source. Brahman is in all things and it is the true Self (atman) of all beings.
http://1stholistic.com/prayer/hindu/hol_hindu-brahman.htm

brahman is the ultimate reality and as well the pure consciousness. Brahman is a deity/god which is uncreated and does exist. What evidence are you looking for in Brahma; the uncreated creator God which represent REALITY or PURE CONSCIOUSNESS?

Eledumare is the great consciousness which makes infinite possibilities.

Brahma and Edumare are God which according to the religion that hold believe in them are not created. However, they both represent REALITY and CONSCIOUSNESS.

Reality is the real state of existence which is not created. It is Brahma and Eledumare.

You are creating a defined fence round the word God and how you view it. Keep it coming.

finofaya:
I don't think it is the same question. Whatever God is, it may or may not be capable of proof by us.

If the God is tied to any religion, the conclusion is valid only for that religion. I tried to use a description that can apply across the board.

Does your OP applies to bulls worshipped as God in hinduism?

Does it applies to Stars worshipped as god in ATR?

finofaya:
That's what makes me agnostic. How can you be sure that he is in fact "God"?

Indirectly asking the same question. . . What is God?

This is the simplest and as well the most difficult question. I think you can not arrive at a conclusion when your God is not tied to a religion or concept.

Let see how things play out

Arrest those working there. They are the one stealing and vandalising oir crude oil. We must not spare anyone in this change movement

1miccza:
Because those are the ones that i have come across now that you have posted this links i am now sure and certain.. It seems it's only the ones in support of APC that's gaining prominence... What you should also know is anything i do here aids my personal research. Thus said i would like these to go round and every one taken to court and prosecuted accordingly

EFCC and ICPC are not seers or magicians that would see beyond time. If you or the PDP members feel that some APC office holder are corrupt, reports should be made. The agency will do their job from there

1miccza:
Who cares about partisanship? I haven't seen any publication or write up to that effect on any platform. If i might ask where did you get the news about the trailing of Amaechi from?

Here we go. When they want to hide their partisanship, they lie that they aint concerned about party politics. If you aint concern parties, why is it thay you only see when PDP members are probed and feign ignorance when APC members are probed?

This is the link detailing Ameachi, Fashola and other APC members probe by ICPC http://www.punchng.com/news/icpc-probes-fashola-amaechi-akpabio-others/

1miccza:
In as much as i support the anti corruption drive my question is why is the DSS being only serious with cases involving PDP members alone??

ICPC trails Amechi and some other APC members. If you have any probem or find one, you should forward your findings to the appropriate section

Can you please start right away?

I notices the OP is banned by spambot. What could he have done wrong?

Weah96:
According to Folykaze, I'm not an atheist. No one is. Do you see the dilemma?

You are hateist.

On the contrary, you are anti-theist

Sincere9gerian:
Shameless liars! The document we're talking about is titled “My Covenant With Nigerians”
https://www.nairaland.com/2568497/buhari-apc-lied-disowning-campaign

This is different from the "‘One Hundred Things Buhari Will Do in 100 Days’" that was mentioned by Buhari in the video.
They are 2 different documents. According to Premium Times investigation, the "My Covenant With Nigerians” document was produced by the APC leadership and authenticated by Buhari himself
https://www.nairaland.com/2568497/buhari-apc-lied-disowning-campaign

Were you there when Buhari authenticated the document? Is there any evidence than the written junk from people who want to sell paper and sensationize the public drawing traffic to their site?

There is a video evidence up there. The transcript document is also available too. If you have evidence that Buhari sighned the 'My covenant with Nigerians' document, present it pls

MrPresident1:
Bolded, you have no idea what you are saying.

nO be the same bible we dey read?

Nigerian shipping companies lacks professional and are careless while handling packages; this is what a seller told me when I bought a tablet from him. He told me that he prefered using free shipping method rather using Nigerian shipping agents. He complained about cases of lost or damaged goods and said he wouldnt want me to have the same horrible experience, he advised. I have used Chrisvicmall for shipping severally and they handle my packages excellently so I insisted the chinese should send my package to Nigeria using Nigeria shipping agents. A friend introduced Nonnykings logistics to me and said it is very cheap and he had no case of lost or damaged goods when he used them. I believed him and choose to use Nonnykings. The package arrived in Nigeria on 25th of this month. I received a message alert from +2348066748474 informing me that my package has arrived. In the message, the amount I needed to pay for shipping and clearing was included. I called the line and one particular guy answered it. I told the guy I need the package in Ore, ondo state and I wont be able to come to Lagos for pick up. He told me he can send my package to me only if I agree to pay for delievery. He told me delivery from Lagos to Ore will cost me 1500 naira. I agreed with him and told him payment will be paid into the account he later sent.

I paid 4600 naira into the Ecobank account number he sent. This payment include Shipping cost = 2530, Clearin charges = 500 naira and delivery cost to Ore is 1500 naira. I called him after the payment and he confirmed the amount paid into the account promising to send the package out when he is less busy.

Some hours later, I called to ask how far the processing. He gave me a number and said that is the driver's number. He said I should call the driver and collect the package from him when he gets to Ore. I called the number he gave me and the guy that answered the call told me he is with the package and when he gets to Ore, he will call me. I waited for 4 hours and called the guy again. He told me he on the way and I should wait. I called severally all to get the say I dey road dey come story. It was around 10PM when the Driver's line was off that I sensed the guy was tricking me. I waited till the second day and the driver's number is still switched off. I called Okonkwo, the Nonnykings Nigeria agent and made complain that the driver didnt get to me all to be given tales that he will resend the package. This implies the package was not sent the other day and the number he gave me was fake. I was about coming up with the inconsistency when he banged the call. He refused to answer calls from me. Sometimes he gives the phone to a lady which I insisted speaking with Okonkwo the guy I had deal with.

When it was around 12PM on 29th, Okonkwo called me and told me he has already send the package using another driver and that I should wait till the driver arrives Ore. He refused to give me the drivers number and said the driver will call me when he arrive Ore. I waited till 8PM in the night without seeing any driver or receiving call from any Driver. Okonkwo is having my money and my package with him in Lagos while fooling me in the other side.

I wish I yield to the advise of the Chinese seller who told me Nigerian shipping agents are not reliable. The Chinese guy even threatned not to bear responsibility if my package lost or got damaged. I would have fall into this hell-hole if I continued using Chrisvicmall though costly but efficient. I was fooled by taking the line of Nonnykings as advised by a Nairaland friend who has been into this importation biz for long. Pls someone should help me out here.

Cc Ymodulus, Yemi2plus and others

macof:
That's why I said this
"as defined by western culture"

Why are you ruling for the west sides?

GooseBaba:
No ohh, his son's were not kids ohh. They mix and handle things when baba is not around. Not to mention, they were his top students. Besides I don't do Babalawo anymore. They are too egotistical and dangerously cunning if they get to know the gift you have.

I figure out that I have to know myself more. "if a lion bows before a sheep it's a problem, same if a sheep bows before a lion "... If you know that you're at peace next to water why would you want to surround yourself with sand, rocks or leafs.

Meanwhile, help me understand. Are you trying to explain/breakdown the intricate details of how every components within the paradigm of a charm works. Are you trying to build your own from scratch.?

@ the bold, Yes

macof:
"Scientific explanation" as defined by western culture or anything else goes?

Science is universal and not just western.

GooseBaba:
That's the thing. This incident in question happened in the compound of an herbalist. When the kid reported to him that the baba has gone far. He only laughs. I asked his son's and they tried explaining it to me. They said something about eating certain herbs and specific gbere.

But At that time of my life I was phasing out the use of charms and what not. I was coming in some major Ori knowledge. To know what ones spirit accepts and what it rejects.

You can still go back to the herbalist if he still lives there. Those kids that spoke to you do not know anything.

The problem I have with Babalawo is that they laugh and most time call me kid when I ask them to teach me anything. But if you build relationship with them, they will surely help.

macof:
I thought so. And so you think an Onisegun cannot explain the Ogun he prepared?

I have not found one that can give me scientific explanation.

macof:
Who do you have in mind then?

scientist. Even if na student, if he can provide scienitific explanation, na go we dey

GooseBaba:
So that's what that is..... I witnessed that back in 1999. This frail old man probably in his late 70s. Walked by me and a kid ran out calling him baba something. I looked back to alert the old man. This man don reach some ungodly distance within that split second. I thought I was running mad.

Despite the fact that they tried to explain to me that he was using something, my mind still could not process it. Even till today when I think about it I still dey wonder.

There would be answers if you can explore it with your vibrant knowledge. All this dem say dem say no dey move me.

Go and meet the man if you know him and enquire what he is using. I believe he will expose things to you.

I have this luck but na herbal medicine dem dey give me. Ask those old men and women to share knowledge with you. They will surely do if you somodada

macof:
So something is only natural when established scientists say it is?

Must it be established scientist?

9jacrip:
The emboldened is true, makes a lot of sense but you do know there are natural laws waiting to be tapped into and not necessarily bent? I will come back with an example of this.

Maybe an ayeta can be tried on a chicken or a goat since shooting at either is not against the law?

You know do, even if you did Okigbe or Aiytea or both, these folks will still find a way to wriggle around it?

there are natural phenomenon which cannot be explained yet. This is supernatural events. When there is explanations, it becomes natural phenomenon.

I want at least a guy on ground because of their dabaru. Using a gun without license you know na. When everything is set, I will post date here and upload things online. I know they will want to twist things out but that will be better than doing nothing

dalaman:
Right now I don't have any serious life matter or problem to be candid. When I do(life is full of ups and downs) then I will contact you and then we will do it.

ok o.

dalaman:
Will you keep quite. I gave you a very simple task to perform the other time and you ran away together with your man ghostofsparta. Yet you have the audacity to mention my name in your baseless talk. I gave you a very clear task to perform which you try to water it down, you claimed you needed permission from the other guy, the guy came, refused to take the very clear cut challenge and opted for something else, i accepted and he ran away. You guys aren't serious, I don't need to come to Nigeria, I can give you very clear cut challenge that others do, if your juju or African science is real then we can test it with very simple task. If I set up another challenge , you will still run away. Yet you wonder why no body takes you seriously.

Ok