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dalaman:
That's what I mean by context. You are an atheist , as you have stated you do not believe in many God ideas as portrayed by their advocates. You even try to form your own ideas just to get meaning out of the Gods that are being peddled. Why you go about haranguing others is what I really do not understand. You failed to accept a lot of the Gods as portrayed but go about haranguing others.

You dont get it dude.

Look inwardly, there is nothing like God but we have something and lot of things that can be called god. It could be an idea, entity or concept but theist and even the atheist have failed to look up to. In this sense I mean why we dont ask question about what God is or the quality that made god a god. Why is the river that run down the corner of a street is been worship. How is the water content different from the one that run in the tap and why the one that run freely and very dirty is revered. Why is the python in Lagos is killed at will but the one in Idemili is been worship? Why is chicken is everyone favourite meal but those in Ode Aye worship it as a deity. We need to look away from God but face that which is called God.

Take for example the Yoruba god of iron Ogun in the creation story. We learnt that Ogun and not any other deity moulded a bone. Science came and told us bone isbmade from Calcium which is a metalic element. Ogun also is a metalic substance like Calcium. The two accounts depict a man with the profession of Goldsmith from Yoruba Kingdom who happen to be a God and a chemical element. So when an atheist or theist choose to rally after the God and not what the God really is, they both lose real target. Atheists and theist confusion and argument starts and ends here. The two accounts is pointing to the same direction holding the same truth. But when we look after the God, we get the wrong perception. We see an old man struggling in his workshop with big hammer and hot fire moulding human bone.

I am not specifically saying all deity have scientifical essence but I am trying to say thay what we call God is not another thing. Who knows if it is truth, I have heard someone arguing that Jehovah is vocalnic eruption. But we are all configured to see Jehovah as a man living in the sky. But no matter how you look inwardly, there would always be an essence we are missing when we look for God and not what the God is composed of.

I dont believe in God but believe in every essence which a God tries to express.

Can you tell me how I discussion is abusive

Last time PDP burn APC flags and brooms which is te party symbol, does this stop APC from crushing PDP during the presidential election?

goodmorning40:
Before nko, wetin Obama wan call am in his presence

why didnt he call GEJ a man of integrity when they both met?

oduastates:
It appears that "Holy Ghost fire " has sent all the witches ,who are preventing the refinery from working ,running for cover.

The witches that put of power from national source and also off President Jonathan generator when he was delivering public speech during th easter season in lagos


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HerNnAuzPRY

Yawn

Esdb3:
Stalk you? You quoted me first. Do you know what stalking means?

Jesus is a God bobo; Jesus is God but he is an intermediary to God the FATHER!

Me quote you first? Pele ti e o

Do you have two Gods in christianity now?

Jehovah and Jesus. Two entities. Gods from plural of God.

Oga this mata of Noun and Singular/plural is for kids.

Esdb3:
Bobo no let me swear for you o. Who you dey follow call 'oga ade'? Wtf! Mtchw!


Are you blind as you are dumb? Monotheistic religions believe in one God. The names they call them are different. The explanations apply to the fact that they believe in one God.

Yes his name is Yaweh mary! But among all gods he is God the supreme of all! Mtchew

Huh?

Ogbeni stop stalking me

Jesus was a God. You forgot that too?

Sauce on the beat pls

Esdb3:
To summarize the proper noun/
common noun usage, I think the
easiest way to handle the situation
is to capitalize the word god when
it is used as a proper name as the
name of the god of a monotheistic
religion, such as the god of
Christianity or Judaism, and not
capitalize it when it is used as a
common noun:

God (capitalization)
God is capitalized when it functions as a name. In this
use, God is a proper noun like any other name and does
not take a definite or indefinite article. But in phrases
like the Biblical god and a forgiving god, which do
have articles, there’s no need to capitalize god because
it is a common noun rather than a name—yet many
religiously inclined writers still capitalize the word in
these instances.




So abeg turn yaba left

Oga ade why na.

Is God the name of christian god or Jehovah?

Pls stop bordering me with primary school subject

Abeg is this happening in Nigeria?

Esdb3:
One you all are derailing my thread i asked about spirituality not God.

The case on the 'g' differentiates them.

Plus now I see the importance of what the Jehovah witness stress on. God is actually a title like president chairman- his real name is Yaweh.

And smart-ass God is defined as:


God - /ɡɒd/
noun
1. (in Christianity and other monotheistic
religions) the creator and ruler of the universe
and source of all moral authority; the supreme
being.
2. (in certain other religions) a superhuman
being or spirit worshipped as having power
over nature or human fortunes; a deity.
3. a greatly admired or influential person.
4. the gallery in a theatre.

You asked about God and also spirituality na.

Secondly God is not a proper noun and should not be capitalized. I dont need to teach you proper and common noun.


So abeg turn left

frank317:
So?

These imagines u present are not God to me. They are nothing but cow, stone, human and tree. How does that change anything?

I don't believe a cow, stone, a human or a tree is a god. So what are u saying?

Are u sure u are okay?

OK pls just try and prove to me that a tree is a God.

Lol.

Do you even know what God is?

Mind sharing your view?

What was in your mind when the dictionary define influencial men as God? Yet you are telling me man can never be god? For real?

Let me wait for your view though

dalaman:
Not true, the image you have up there is of a Nepalese woman during the gai puja(A five day Hindu festival as part of the Tihar). Hindus actually do not believe in cows as their deity. Hindus believe in the supreme being Brahma and other less Gods like Lord Shiva, Vishnu etc. A simple Google search of the picture revealed the parent source or original source of the picture. Here is the original source for the picture. It has nothing to do with Apis. Apis in ancient Egyptian mythology was actually a divine animal which has "marks by which the black bull-calf was recognized, the manner of his conception by a ray from heaven, his house at Memphis with court for disporting himself, the mode of prognostication from his actions, the mourning at his death, his costly burial, and the rejoicings throughout the country when a new Apis was found" according to Wikipedia. Apis was not your ordinary cow.

My point still remains. You claimed you are an atheist, atheist to what? Didn't you know that people worshipped the sun, the moon and the rivers before you stated that you were an atheist? Context my friend, context.

1. The picture I posted is one of the random search result of 'cow worship'.

2. Apis is a bull deity of egyptian religion. While I was too forward looking for a religion where bull/cow is worship and not seeing you asked for the woman religion, the picture and Apis answer provided an evidence that at a point in time and as adopted by different cultures, Bull, Calf and Cow were once worshipped.

3. Answering your question, the lady is an Hindu and what she is doing is called Go Puja. You can spell it as gho pooja.Go mean cow. Like in go mata which mean mother cow. While puja mean worship.

Puja is an Hindu form or act of worship which involve rituals, offerings and prayer for a deity partaking by an individual or family in a home shrine or by member of sect in a temple. It is performed to appease to a God or deities and any divine entities. http://hindudharmikservices.com/Pooja.aspx

Puja in english is worship https://translate.google.com/m?hl=en&sl=en&tl=hi&ie=UTF-8&prev=_m&q=worship

Like the rising sun, and other natural entities, puja is also directed to Kamadhenu. Kamadhenu is the sacred cow, is a part and parcel of Hindu mythology. She is the cow, which grants all wishes and desires. Amongst orthodox Hindus she is worshipped on the first of vaishakh, when Brahma created the cow. The milkmen paint the horns and hoofs of their cattle yellow or saffron and bathe them in the river. https://parashakthitemple.org/kamadhenu-ambika.aspx

Gho Puja means worshipping Goddess Kamadhenu which mean cow worshipping. They actually might perceive their puja is meant for Kamadhenu and not the bag of flesh. While actually what they worship is the sacred cow. http://www.priestservices.com/our-services/gho-pooja
http://vedichomas.com/gho-pooja/ I dont even understand how you expect them to call what they worship with common name. It like saying an Ifa priest should call divination palm fruit 'ekuro'. There would no be diffference between what they worship and what the people see as commodity.To Ifa priest, palm fruit is calked Ikin while to commoners it is called Ekuro. Same applies to Hindi puja. The cow are called Kamadhenu meaning the sacred cow. That is the deity and not the bag of flesh you eat.

These are some videos. Pls watch how they pray, make an offering and decoration are made. These acts are practices of puja for a deity, what I see in the video simple is puja for a cow which mean it is the deity.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzga_YdYAgg


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7ZKPLNi8do&itct=CDUQpDAYAiITCOSm4uC8hscCFYSzfgodJccLd1IHZ28gcHVqYQ%3D%3D&client=mv-google&hl=en&gl=US


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7ZKPLNi8do&itct=CDUQpDAYAiITCOSm4uC8hscCFYSzfgodJccLd1IHZ28gcHVqYQ%3D%3D&client=mv-google&hl=en&gl=US

After all that is provided, lets analyse the word Gho pooja or Go puja

From the novel Godaan https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godaan which mean The gift of the cow. And the cultural word Go Maat which mean Mother cow, it is evident that Gho or go is an hindi word for cow.

Also, puja mean worshipping https://translate.google.com/m?hl=en&sl=en&tl=hi&ie=ISO-8859-1&prev=_m&q=Worship

Finally, Gho pooja mean cow worship http://www.krishna.com/service-cow .

Therefore, the woman in that picture is worshipping a cow. . .which represent a deity called Kamadhenu meaning the sacred cow.


A side note, reverence is the samething as worship. https://www.google.com/search?&q=what+is+worship You cannot twist english word for your own purpose


4. Like my good friend would say, I am not truly an atheist but a seeker of enlightenment. I claimed to be an atheist becasue I do not believe in a God but as a spiritual atheist, I know that what a God represent really exist.

I have argued in many place that Jehovah does not exist but as well exist an Idea. Sango exist as electric energy. There is even a thread on this. Just like the greek goddess Iustice, she does not exist as a lady that walk down the street with scale and swing sword around; here I am an atheist. But looking inwardly, she exist as equity of the law and justice in every society. Another Yoruba deity is Ogun which I believe exist as anything metalic. Truthfully I love everything about Deity and the powerful message their stories hold. I tend to look away from the allegory attached to this deities and find their original representation.

I define spiritual atheism here https://www.nairaland.com/1583749/there-atheists-here-oppose-gay#20736730

dalaman:
Which religion is this? Did she tell you she is worshipping the cow or simply revering it? The picture says nothing. You didn't give me the name of the religion, you just posted a picture of a woman bowing to a cow and say she is worshipping it. People bow down to each other and other creatures in acts of reverence, it has nothing to do with worship. until you tell me the name of her religion I can't make anything of it.

This is traced to Egyptian religion. The bull deity is called Apis

dalaman:
You just made your OWN definition of God and want every body to accept it. You are a funny fellow. Atheism is simply the lack of belief in deities. Without context every thing loses its meaning. You know very well the context that is in use and what the atheist here mean when they say they do not believe in God. You just love playing your semantics game.

Atheism is, in a broad sense, the rejection of belief in the existence of deities.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheism

In religious belief, a deity (Listeni/ˈdiː.ɨti/ or Listeni/ˈdeɪ.ɨti/)[1] is a supernatural being, who may be thought of as holy, divine, or sacred. Some religions have one supreme deity, while others have multiple deities of various ranks.

C. Scott Littleton's Gods, Goddesses, and Mythology defined a deity as "a being with powers greater than those of ordinary humans, but who interacts with humans, positively or negatively, in ways that carry humans to new levels of consciousness beyond the grounded preoccupations of ordinary life

A deity is simply defined as In religious belief, a deity is a supernatural being, who may be thought of as holy, divine, or sacred. Some religions have one supreme deity, while others have multiple deities of various ranks.

C. Scott Littleton's Gods, Goddesses, and Mythology defined a deity as "a being with powers greater than those of ordinary humans, but who interacts with humans, positively or negatively, in ways that carry humans to new levels of consciousness beyond the grounded preoccupations of ordinary life

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deity


A stone is simply a stone, if someone claims a stone is God then in what context is the person claiming that the stone is God? Is he simplifying changing the name of the stone to God or is he claiming that the stone has some supernatural abilities. What makes a stone God?

In the context we all know what God means here. I don't know why you like spending time dwelling on meaningless semantics. I remember when you used to support the atheist in the house like logicboy, mazaje and the likes in your arguments with the theist, you clearly stated that you were an atheist. Why? because you simply disbelieve in the christian and muslim deities. I believe your atheism was in context. Remove the context and everything goes.

[img]http://img.rasset.ie/0009aa03-942.jpg[/img]

What is been worship there? What do those worshipoers call it?

Deit or cow?

frank317:
Lol... You are really trying hard but you can't force your thinking on me.
NO!!!! I don't believe a stone is a god no matter who says a stone is a god. I don't believe any human is a god no matter what any one tells me. I don't believe my shi.it is a god, I don't believe the moon, moon, star. I believe they are what they are... Star, stone sun etc.
I don't believe all those things pantheistic Africans and Indians call gods are gods ( I don't know who told you I believe in that.) And so I don't bother myself with that. And if they bring in their arguments to prove that these things are gods I wouldn't mind engage them.
Now the proponents of abramic god are all other the place with threats and claims of what he did i.e built the universe, hence our engagement in arguments with them. Of course I used to fear the threat of hell but now I find it absurd.
Or do u want to prove to me that a stone is a god and not a stone? What exactly are u all about?

Bla bla bla. What makes something a god? Is not when person or object is perceived as divine and worship?


This is stone worship. The stone is God

https://d5iam0kjo36nw.cloudfront.net/V11p556001.jpg

Human worship where human is a god

https://img04.deviantart.net/befe/i/2012/258/1/2/the_apotheosis_of_shakespeare_by_jw_jeong-d5erkz5.jpg

[img]http://wordinfo.info/words/images/zoo-zoolatry-bull-women.gif[/img]

[img]https://thetalkingpot.files./2014/01/snakeworship.jpg?w=652[/img]

https://www.newsgram.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/tree-worship.jpg

https://media.cleveland.com/plain-dealer/photo/2009/04/3c367766a3420702d7f1708faa75b3d0.jpg

[img]https://espiritokashi.files./2012/04/cow-worship.jpg[/img]

[img]http://img.rasset.ie/0009aa03-942.jpg[/img]

Do I need to list for you numbers of object worship in different cultures?

What do they call those things been worshipped pls? Is it President or Governor or Chairman or God?

McSterling:
Na wa for you o.

It is as well noy universally acceptted that you should be McSterling.

Nope?

PhockPhockMan:
Ishilove and lalasticlala will surely not be happy with this your comment.

I think you are on the way to your villa and currently in Aba. Join the mob pls so that we can put bullet in your blood stream

The self implosion in PDP has not end yet.

McSterling:
Precisely what I tried to communicate.

Wrong.

Is it not man that calls you McSterling?

frank317:
I think you are the one trying to confuse things here. Now if I or an atheist say there is not God, he clearly means there is no creator man in heaven who is omini everything, who sent his son or answers our prayers or will judge us on the last day or is angry that we don't love him and will throw us in hell for not loving him back. It means we don't believe in a being we must pray to five times a day and must worship and because of fear of getting him angry we must abstain from certain life styles or hate people who don't worship him because he will throw us in heaven if we don't kill others for his sake. We don't believe in a being who promise ur heaven if we do some absurdities for him on earth.

The post you have up there is incoherent. Atheism is disbelieve in existence of Gods. Not christian, hebrew and muslim Gods.

The God you depict up there is nothing but an Abrahamic deities. Up there we have Yahweh, Jehovah and Allah. It is irrational for one to think only Hebrew clan and Arab nation have the priority to use the word God. It is the greatest form of insanity for one to think atheism is disbelieve in Hebrew Gods but believe in Astrolatry roman gods. It is insane for an atheist to claim he disbelieve in the existence of Arab deity but believe in the pantheistic gods of India and africa. This really shows that you are confused just like the theist you choose to lamblast because you aint different from them. Christians believe in Jehovah but disbelieve in every other thousands of God in other cultures. Buddhist believe in devas and raja, incarnate of devas but disbelieve in every other deity in their thousands. I really dont understand why you guys run to tag yourself an atheist just because you cant justify christian and islamic doctrines and principles or just because you want to show to the world you hate Hebrew and arab deities. This is not atheism.

frank317:
Now if you say to some people God is stone, cloud or a pile of shii.t well there is not reason to argue with them. The best form of argument with them is "I don't believe a shii.t or stone is God" not I don't believe shii.t or stone exist. Again, anyone can believe anything is God as long as they don't tell me the stone will burn me in hell for going to have fun in a party.
People are atheist because they don't see the significance of a God in a world like this. How can a powerful being (not stone or water) exist yet his creations doubt it or he begs and threaten people to worship him. How can a God being exist yet the world he creates is in disarray and he does absolutely nothing. Noe these questions have nothing to do with stone or a revered human. No one with ask all these question if it was generally believed that a stone is a God.
You can't accuse atheists of believing in one God and debeliving in another when they don't even think a stone is a God and therefore have not found it worth arguing about.

Dont be dumb

God is not a particular entity just like the president. It is a status of divinity, sacred and worth one give a person or an object. Just like the president, anyone can become a president when he/she attain a political status. The Taxi I drive is not different from the presidential but you know the value one draw is more than ordinary cab. In imperial cult, any person can be God. A lot of men, leaders were apotheosis and became God. This doesnt mean they are creator of the universe.

Atheism is from the greek word a+theo which mean no god. This is as oppose to theism. Theism is a believe that there exist at least one god. God in that context is not christian or muslim god.

Those that worship stone are free to in as much it is part of theism. Those that worship Earth are free to in as much they are convinced of what they are doing. Animist are free to worship plants and animal. These are all part of theism to which atheism oppose.

You should better tag yourself anti-christian or anti-islam rather than fooling around of been an atheist. Your atheism is borne out of fear that you will burn in hell and other unjustificable doctrines of christianity. It would be foolish to think since Christianity employ the doctrine of hell and eternal punishment therefore every other religion will share the same doctrine. There are thousands of religion that does not have the doctrine of hell and eternal punishment as it tenet. Does this makes the gods in these religion anyway lesser than christian god? Is Buddha leser than Jehovah? Yoruba traditional religion does not have doctrine of hell, does that make Eledumare anyway lesser than Allah. The peoples that worship Fela in Kalakuta shrine are convinced with what they do. They pray, worship and make sacrifice to Fela in this shrine. To them fela is god but dont scare people with eternal punishment, does that make fela not been there god? Does it make fela anyway lesser than Allah?

Horlufemi:
5 years ago I was secretly an Atheist. Few years later through science I believe there is God. I discovered religion, lack of love and selfishness was the problem.

But my question is how do you hear from God? Cos I need him to speak to me like every other day.

Which God do you intend to speak to?
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Wrong number

This is the last kick of a dying horse. Like an analyst mentioned, when the tiger wants to die, it does not lie there for death to take her away. She will find a very top spot and make the loudest roar. Boko Haram beast have been castrated and pushed to the wall. They only run after soft target unlike some months back when they sack our barracks, chase and or ambush our soldiers. We must not relent in this struggle. Together we shall win against our common enemy

McSterling:
Do you find it hard to comprehend? You seem intent at proving I'm not an atheist, grasping at straws, caviling. Well, good luck with that.
If natural phenomena is the definition of god, then no rational person will claim to be atheist. Atheism itself would be irrational. You expect me to disbelieve natural phenomena? If someone chooses to define their god as the universe or nature, so you expect me to prove I'm an atheist by disbelieving in the universe and nature? Just because some guy thinks that is god? How does believing in natural phenomena equate to choosing one god over others? If someone chooses to define their god as a coconut, then does that prove that I have chosen to believe in the coconut over other gods? Just because I acknowledge the existence of the coconut? Of course, I do not regard natural phenomena as god. I stated that in a previous reply. I have no need for that. The universe is the universe. Nature is nature. God is the supposed creator of the universe who transcends the universe, and I don't believe in god. That's how I see it. If you have a problem with that, then it's just that-YOUR problem. Nothing I can do about it.

How is it my problem if you are an atheist? I am only trying to draw your attention toward atheist fallacy. Make you see that it is of best to define what you mean by God which you disbelieve in rather than going round displaying to the world the hatred you have for Abrahamic deity; Jehovah, Allah and Yahweh. I am trying to make you that there is difference between Atheism and Hateism. Every culture on the face of the planet has historically believed in God. Many are polytheistic, others are monotheistic, while still others are pantheistic. While they differ on the specifics of what God is like, there is no disagreement that there was some divine entity in the universe. The atheist presents a worldview devoid of God, as opposed to a worldview with God in it. That is the essential difference. But when we look closely, we found out that these God in every culture are different. They took different form and those that worship them understand it in their own view.

God is not and never an object. It is an appelation for level of respect, awe, status, dominion, worth and value of soneone or something. A person or object becomes a God when it is been worship and garner dominion. Worship here mean acknowledging worth of something or someone. Divinity has no speciality other than the value we give one. Money is God to some but sone people can burn it. Snake is God to some people but I can kilk it at any slightest means. Cow is a deity is some culture but it is the best meat I serve. So when you atheist tell us you dont believe in God, I like to ask if your definition of God extends to those entities thay really exist like body of water or Iron.

It will really be confusing when atheist claim he believes in some God and disblieving in others. This implies such atheist does not know his position or realky confused and not different from other theist who believe in one or two gods but disbelieve in thousands of others. This further buttress that atheism is nothing but noises of people who cant justify religion doctrine.

*Sighs* The point I was trying to make is this: Just because a phenomenon isn't explainable today, it doesn't mean it is supernatural. Several perfectly explainable phenomena today were not explainable in the past. Does that mean they were supernatural then but have now ceased to be supernatural?

It remains a supernatural until there is explanation for it.

I am not an expert in this field (probably even less than a dilettante) but it's clear we both mean consciousness in different ways. In the way that I see it, there's no way an inanimate object or a cadaver can be said to be conscious. Are they conscious in the same sense as animate beings? In what sense exactly are they said to be conscious?
Interestingly, when I was a little boy, I used to wonder if inanimate things like a chair, the bar of soap on the table, my pencils, were able to observe me as I could do them, or were able to "know themselves" as I did. It was something I didn't have words for. And I never asked anybody because I didn't know how to. Now, I know the word I was searching for is "consciousness". "Is the bar of soap conscious?" was what I wanted to know as a child. I'll read up more on panpsychism.

Read and enjoy
https://www.nairaland.com/1460798/universe-conscious

I dont just get it. There is a budget set aside separately for the defence section yearly which is enough to provide standard and very great weapon for out soldier. These money were looted and shared among the politicians under the leadership of the big belle Ex-CDS who call himself a soldier.

This evil man lead our soldier to battle with a gun gaving nothing more than 30 bullets to fight Boko-haram. It was in his reign NA came down low to the rank of ordinary boys scout. It was in his reign NA men were turn to political tout. How do you expect a soldier to fight terrorist with counted bullets, no fighting gear and kits, even soldiers were made to buy there boot by themselves. It was in his reign our barracks were ransacked and weapons got stolen by islamic ragtard. It was in his reign boko haram grew to a beast.

APC was conplaining about the welfare of the soldiers some months ago. Even the soldiers came out boldly to complain about their poor condition on international tv. It was this fustration that caused mutiny. But instead of them to listen to the plight of the soldiers, they were sentenced to death by a kangaroo court. NA has gotten corrupt that they have become politician bomboy who carry bags. Not only that, they are now use as an agent of election rigging as the case is in Ekiti.

Alot of gallant men have been wasted to this pig called Alex. A lot of our national money has gone to the drain. Boko haram was left to grow fat so that they could make money from the defence budget. And now the fool is here telling us there was no weapon to fight terrorism.

I wish Buhari can castrate the man till after the war against insurgency has the won then we can decide to judge him for the atrocities he has caused.

Buhari havr suddenly woken our soldier up from there six years sleep. The impossible is becoming a possibilty. Mehn look at our soldier giving these beast run for there money? We are the one attacking and giving them reason to run and hide.

Soldier go go go go go. You got our support. Now that the gear has changed, we must crush these rodent completely

menesheh:
Meaning?

Excellently put.

Though i disgree with what you posted but I am amazed at how brilliant the post is

McSterling:
If any concept of god is backed up by indisputable evidence, how can I be atheist with respect to them? If for instance, god is defined as the rock basalt, then it would be illogical for me to say I'm atheist, since basalt is observable in the lab and even its constituent minerals and mode of formation is known. Likewise, I can't say I am atheist with respect to pantheism or Spinoza's god. I am basically atheist to personal, anthropomorphic gods- gods with human characteristics, e.g yahweh and his fellows. Clearly the creation of man and consequently infused with human characteristics and imbued with pretentious uber-qualities. I do not believe in such gods due to the lack of evidence for them.

Disbelieve in one particular God and believe in some others doesnt make one an atheist. Or lett me assume you dont know what atheism is all about and or maybe you choose to call yourself an atheist because you seem to hate Yahweh/Allah or cant justify there existence.

Christians do not believe in millions of Gods that exist in different cultures but consider Yahweh as the only existing God.

The Hindi rejects and also deny the existence of other cultural and concept of God but still have believe in their Krishna.

Does this make them claim to an atheist? Does this in anyway makes them an atheist? Are they atheist to you or theist?

Theist belief in at least one God and reject the other ones. Affirming here that you believe and not atheist to some form of God evidently shows that you are not different from the theist and practically not an atheist. How does disblieve in Yahweh and Allah mades one an atheist when pagans do not have such believe in those deity?

Atheists do not believe in any gods whatsoever, which means an atheist cannot believe in one god or two gods or three gods. The moment a person believes in any god at all, even the deistic or the pantheistic type, that person ceases to be an atheist and becomes a theist of some or other flavour.

Theist is defined as: Someone who claims the existence of at least a deity. http://atheism.about.com/library/FAQs/religion/blrel_theism_what.htm . It is a belief in a god or gods as oppose to atheism.

The more common understanding of atheism among atheists is "not believing in any gods. http://atheism.about.com/od/aboutatheism/p/atheism101.htm An atheist is any person who is not a theist.


Therefore, it is as nonsensical as saying a working light bulb is both off and on or a gate is both open and closed at the same time saying you disbelieve in a particualr God/gods and believe in the existence of some others that it evidence can be substantiate.

Just like every atheists, you just proved that atheism is nothing more than the noises reasonable people make in the presence of unjustified religious beliefs.



Moreso, Lady Justice is a personal, anthropomorphised greek god which is represented as a woman nature holding a scale and a sword with a blindfolded face. She represent Justice and equity of the law. Saying Lady Justice does not exist mean Justice and Law is not in our society and this equates to insanity. Mother Nature is another example of personified deity. She represent the good nature of earth. She is indeed earth. Saying that you dont believe in the existence of Mother nature mean earth does not exist. This is the greatest insanity of all age. Venus, Saturn and other member of the Titans took human form. This does not in anyway mean they are human.

Anthropomorphism is a means of expression. That some people personify an object does not mean the object is a person. Learn how to look beyond the surface.

Talking about personality has to do with the language which one use. A country can be person. A nation is a deity which one worship, pray to, have faith in and make sacrifice to. Out of ignorance you fail to realise that you worship a deity the very moment you salute the national flag or when the anthem song is sang. Do you notice the faithfullness to serve and loyal in the pledge and anthem song? Dont you realise this is the reason why some christian think nationalisation is idolatory? They have realised a country is a deity. This is not just been a deity, a country is a personal deity of patriots. So how would you deny the existence of a nation because some peopke choose to worship it as god?

McSterling:
That would mean phenomena like thunder and lightning, earthquakes, volcanic eruption, etc. was supernatural in ancient times.

The ish is not answered.

Do you disbelieve in the supernatural occurence of this age? Is an unexplainable event not happening today? Do you believe it happens but cant be explain yet?

So why the hell did you say you dont believe in supernatural?

McSterling:
Ah! consciousness as I perceive it is simply the result of a physical organ: the brain. Even the "inner entity" you speak of which I like to simply call the mind, is also the result of the brain.

I want to you know that perception is not the reality.

If you read what panpsychism is, you will understand it states that everything including the inaniminated objects are conscious.

The Earth in Yoruba is worhip as Iyale, Gaia in greek because it is believe that this entity is conscious. Well I dont see earth having brain?

So how do you explain consciousness with brain when lot of people agree that everything in the universe and the universe itself is conscious?

herald9:
Sorry, all these things, who tagged them 'gods' .... Not man?

I can choose to call anything that fascinates me 'a god', that doesn't make it a universal truth and you can't use that to compel general acceptability of this god concept.

When it comes to god, there is no universal acceptance of one concept. Zeus is the supreme God to the greek but it is not accepted by christians. Jehovah is not accept as a God to Hindi.

Na everybody with him own

plaetton:
Is there a difference between your psyche, your consciousness and you inner self ?

If your consciousness is subliminally manipulated , as is very obviously easy, then so is your psyche and inner self.

What you said doesnt prove scientifical analysis of consciousness.