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@ RoyPcain.

Man you making things hard for me here since I use phone. Please try reducing your contents when replying me.

Lets kick

1. Adam is a hebrew man not Arabic. Moses, Joshua, Jesus, Abraham and all prophets in the book were hebrew and bears hebrew name. From the scientific ground, such character called Adam the first man on earth does not exist. Historically, Moses did not exist. Noah did not exist and the whole flood story is an epic fairy tale just like tortoise stories in Yoruba land. Another Epic failure from you man.

Quran 6:14
Yusuf Ali
Say: "Shall I take for my protector any other than Allah, the Maker of the heavens and the earth? And He it is that feedeth but is not fed." Say: "Nay! but I am commanded to be the first of those who bow to Allah )in Islam (, and be not thou of the company of those who join gods with Allah."

Quran 6:163
Yusuf Ali
No partner hath He: this am I commanded, and I am the first of those who bow to His will.

Mohamed was said to be the first muslim. Was mohamed the so called Adam? Now lets deal with this, provide any Islamic book or literature that is older than Torah or the Hindu books. We are know the quran was collated after the death of mohamed........which islamic books were those prophet of judaism using? Do this and I raise my cap for you.


2. Another Epic failure. Because Angel Gabriel says something, it doesn't make the folks of that time ignorant of the past. There are historical records and common knowledge of the past for the people to learn from. Check out your failure here: Angel Gabriel revealed the quran to mohamed and the people has already know this.........who is plagiarizing here? Mohamed/Angel Gabriel or The people? Before the quran, the bible, torah and other religion writings had been in existence. This is where people hurled their knowledge from combing it with history......mohamed stole this stories like joseph smith does too. You not having ground. Next pls


3. Arab in those days keeps document of their trading. Kadijah cant raise someone that doesn't know how to document trade.


4. If he is illiterate, how did he authenticate the quran? Did he verified it and see some verses weren't removed? Illiterate cant do this.


5. Please take your myth to those that cant reason with their heads. You mind showing the video of a child reciting quran which he/she learnt from the womb at birth? Even though I cant watch the video, we have those that will and verify who is lying here. My whole point stand that whatever you recite must be something you have heard and doesn't really implies that you must be educated. I didn't mention education alongside with recitation.....save your lies for another day. Recitation is not a big deal. I have watch a video where dog say 'I LOVE YOU'.....christian child preaching and leading church.......one year old baby mimicing ABC. You cant recite what you are not aware of..........those people living in the same community didnt receive any revelation but they heard know almost everything mohamed was saying. Epic failure there sir.


6. You shouldn't have relate musician to educational status. Your whole point not needed since the initial failed........ Read the article here http://acna.org.au/blog/21-was-muhammad-really-illiterate.html

See Jewish Slave.......next abeg

@OP

When the Missionaries arrived, the Africans had the Land and the Missionaries had the
Bible. They taught us how to pray with our eyes closed. When we opened them, they had the land and we had the Bible. - Jomo Kenyatta.....


European expansion throughout Africa(or anywhere), slavery and colonialism could not have been possible without christinsanity and dogma missionaries......The Perception most have that these ppl came to civilize a barbaric race...to tame the beastly nature of our unnatural ways and to introduce light to our darkened unintelligent minds by way of Christ was the greatest strategy the European White man has used to bolster their power throughout history....


............*kolo mentality....

Mr anony: FACT-CHECK TIME.
1. Nigeria is a secular country

The Government of the Federation or of a State shall not adopt any religion as State Religion.

(Article 10 of the 1999 Constitution of the Federal Republic of Nigeria)

It so obvious that what is written in the black book called constitution is the fictional work of our lawmakers.

NIGGA-AREA contain two nations: islamic northern Nigeria and christian southern Nigeria

Aromas: @Holland or Hollandian weytin b ur name self? Craze dey worry u, weutin cum make attack dis Hausa man now?

Heis!! ABOKI SHINE MY SHOE

Another Mother of God MARY

I thought we took loan from China recently. From US to UK to World bank, to China and now to saudi. Hope this is not another strategy of selling the whole nation to the Arab world which will at the end turns our nation to a sharia country? But wait, despiste so many loans, yet not too much progress to show....

oxygen47: Pls, what would the late Fela (RIP) have said to this development?

BEAST OF NO NATION should answer that

check out lyrics that fit with the situation.

Make you hear this one
War against indiscipline, ee-oh

Na Nigerian government, ee-oh

Dem dey talk ee-oh

"My people are us-e-less, My people are sens-i-less, My people lack discipline"

Na Nigerian government, ee-oh

Dem dey talk be dat

"My people are us-e-less, My people are sens-i-less, My people lack discipline"

I never hear dat before- oh

Make Government talk, ee-oh

"My people are us-e-less, My people are sens-i-less, My people lack discipline"

Na Nigerian government, ee-oh

Dem dey talk be dat

Which kind talk be dat- ee-oh?

Na craze talk be dat ee-oh

Na animal talk be dat ee-oh

Na animal talk be dat ee-oh

[CHORUS]
MANY LEADERS AS YOU SEE DEM

NA DIFFERENT DISGUISE DEM DEY-OH

ANIMAL IN HUMAN SKIN

ANIMAL-I PUT-U TIE-OH

ANIMAL-I WEAR AGBADA* *(robe)

ANIMAL-I PUT-U SUIT-U

Maxymilliano: How does jubilating “in the presence of a large crowd” after a bomb blast constitute inciting and disturbing public peace? Must he be shedding crocodile tears to be seeing as patriotic and law abiding?

How does the death of 24 people turns to merry party?

You are so heartless like the so called boko haram

Mr Aboki: [size=18pt]Isaiah 54:15
Behold, they shall surely gather together, but not by me: whosoever shall gather together against thee shall fall for thy sake.

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Go to Hell with your bible. The same bible you quoting today was used to sworn those corrupt PDP leaders into office. Yet neither the change didn't come from them nor your bible oath destroy them.

LET US SEE THE CHANGE APC want to offer.

Uyi Iredia: Many should be familiar with that warm, fuzzy feeling, or pounding in your chest, or the skip of a heartbeat when you meet the one with whom you are enthralled. That may be why love is said to be of the heart, not minding the brain.

May I ask, what causes the heart to have changes when person meet with someone loved. Does heart have seperate sense hormones?

vickyO: "Muhammed is another comforter of Jesus Christ" from which book did you quote that? Am afraid that verse does not exist, that was the reason i called you deciever. Don't let them brainwash you.read the bible and see who after Jesus performed the duties of another comforter. show me the record and compare it side by side with Quran and hadith. tell me which person fulfilled the obligation accorded the another comforter?
the holy spirit performed the duties of a comforter.... Jesus wasnt physically present again so someone had to come to aid our walk with God thus the Holy Sprit... Muhammed aint my comforter, the man preachings glorifies worldliness to me

You mind showing us evidence of this without touching the corrupt bible

Can you help those that cant watch the video like me by telling us what the video entails or produce a transcript

engineerd: LMFAO....I see some illiterates using the term MOG---Man Of God!!!! My God!!!!!! Who is a Man of God?? Aren't we all supposed to be Men of God Isn't all our righteousness as a filthy rag before God?? What about Woman of God ---WOG.......God hates ignorance!!!! liberate yourselves from religious slavery!!!!

It is not the issue of MOG here. The problem is that religion is the finest tool of keeping people silent, oppressing the feeble minds and ruling over the masses. GEJ has taken the wind of religion to shut the Yoruba people up. He used TB as the machine behind the release of Al-mustapha for gaining political scores in the north and shiiting on the entire yoruba people.... What were the Al-majiris of Arewa group looking for in the church if not because they got what they want and because their machine (TB) is functioning as programmed? The fact that you see religious folks praising this man and happy for what happened is a clear sign that religion practically blindfold the ignorant and shut the liberates up.............mental enslavement

Why wouldn't they go to TB JOSHUA church? No be the same league dem dey? It is so obvious now that TB Joshua played a role in the release of Al-mustasha. This is what Nigerian christians (yorubas especially) are celebrating as if Jesus appeared in the sky. When the christianity enter politics? Una never see corruption......horsewhip still coming

Scam Alert......

Uyi Iredia: Atheism is certainly a movement. When . . . I can't say (my guess would be in the 60's) but it gained prominence a couple of years after 9/11 when bestsellers like The End Of Faith were released. Ain't saving logicboy, lol.

If you said Atheism is a movement, maybe you look for atheist that will argue that with you......... Is there place for right of personal opinion in the law book?

I read almost thread on this religion section......I see people's but wont fight them to be aways right. Deal with logicboy......it is his world. Cheers

@ RoyPcain. I dont even know how to handle this your stuff with my phone. But let me try making it simple here.


1st point : judaism and christianity predate Islam. Mohamed was born when christianity was prevalent in Arab.. He knew about it and is full aware of their practices then. When mohamed started repeating the same thing as of old, pls what do you call that? Revelation? Been the author here is not my point. My whole point is that mohamed plagiarized from folklores. If I go one and start telling people that your name is so..so..so or it was revealed that you live in so so so location........what is that? Revelation or common hearsay? You love attaching unrelevant stuff when buttressing your points. Before mohamed was born, egyptians has been mummifying pharaoh. It is not a prophesy but something people are aware of. It is not even practised only in egypt but also in other part of the world. I have argued this so called issue with you but seem you love shifting post when things aint favouring you. What was it the quran only penned? That ancient egyptians doesn't have records of their pharaoh? Common man.........you more than this.


2nd point : 'And they say' so it basically means they were lying? You mean they dont know Jesus, prophet in the bible and whole lot of compositions in the quran before mohamed? I smell Taqiyya here. Pls mind showing me how the phrase 'they say' implies it lie.


3rd point : maybe you ignore the line where I said he wrote receipt. Yes you agree he did write receipt. How can illiterate write receipt? Maybe you lost the defination of illiterate.....your dictionary should suffix here...............there is a big differences between non-educated and illiteracy. Illiterate is "Unable to read and write." Uneducated is " a person who lacks technical training and hence unskilled". Mohamed Ali might not go to school but he has a technical training and well built in some skills. Go to university is not what education mean to me. Beat that



4th point : answer the question.......was mohamed taught to use pen? If yes, how is he illiterate? And maybe you can find evangelist Atheist to defend atheism for you.......next pls



5th point: WTF? Is your friend old mama reciting what she was aware of before or revealing another scripture? I guess the former will be your answer........it plays alongside with mohamed. Before he was born was the myth of egyptians enslaving Israelites. The myths of Adam and Eve had been for so long before mohamed was born. Zoroasters pray five times daily before mohamed was born.......plagiarization of stuff here doesn't make your findings original.



6th point : when does it become necessary for musicians to be able to read and write? You love hiding behind lies presenting yourself as truthful person. Rashe stated that mohamed was illiterate.....you should present argument to show how he is illiterate and not comparing writing and reading to musicians. Deal with that

Uyi Iredia: I think the same of atheists wrt good arguments as to God's existence. The term aptly defines what Logicboy is doing on the 'Why Is Necrophilia Immoral ?' thread.

Old man.....when did Atheism becomes a league or movement I will fight for? You begging me to save logicboy azz or what? Im not here for a team winning argument or campaigning/evangelising atheism.

The sky is expanse enough for birds to fly without contrasting each other.

Jakumo: NO NO, Hell NO. I ain't goin' in no cage. Yeah, you heard me right, that chit is OVER. YOU get in the muffugin cage.

Ha ha ha ha. The revolution has begun. Just don't SPANK the monkey ha ha ha. That will never solve the problem.

Which one you be? Baboon, Ape, Gorilla or Chimp?

Forest guard 011, pls shoot him

truthislight: Oh! Thanks.

It seems i got him wrong.

All the same, he remains a deceit for saying that muhamade did not give the command that believers be killed.

That ^ is pretty obvious and does not worth proving, he may need to go read his koran again, since he has not been doing so.

He has lost touch with reality.

up to you RoyPCain

truthislight: ^^
you must be a deceit.

You dont seem to know who runs your organisation again ?

Common man....dont make me believe you cant pick up a challenge.


Check the bold again pls

RoyPCain: @truthislight;

you seem to be driving away from the light of truth into the darkness of deceit. Isaa bi Maryam [as] is in the Quran. you cant put bible verse in his mouth. rules are rules. Bible is not Quran. If its their fruit of the Bible you shall know them, I control myself, maybe not enough, but i sure control myself. And my quality is inferior to that of the standard, the best, from The Holy Prophet [sa]. The prophet [sa] did not command that non believers be killed. where ever you can show the evidence, please produce it.

Tell me you got this stuff firstly from 'philosophy of fela' page on fb then you proceed to source it elsewhere.

We meet on a social network debating atheism vs christianity

We later agreed to meet at a spot so that we discuss in person.

From there we became friends

All again, she became my greatest enemy because I dont give a damn....I trash anything about Jesus when she raise it.

Use that fight as flag to flirt with her

And she is my Queen now....sitting at my right hand

iamswizz: Y fela??

I would have preferred Buhari or Gej instead. :-/

Fela is a legendary.


If you tattoo Buhari on your back, then possibly your descendant will become terrorist

And if it GEJ, sorry is your case, you will become clueless and a political dog

Rashe: already rest my case...all ur point ar dogmatically written which also makes u a Dogma..if u put being Dogma apart and try 2 know more about Mohammed, u wil definitely understand me..Accordin 2 philosophy, dere is no need of 2 argue if d parties involve wil nt agree at d end of d arguement cos it wil just result in waste of time..in conclusion, dont expect any reply 4rm me again and i pray God wil makes u understand d scriptures urself and nt sayin it is beyond Man's understandin cos of all it's contradiction...

Lol... Escapism. Have a nice time dude

Rashe: already rest my case...all ur point ar dogmatically written which also makes u a Dogma..if u put being Dogma apart and try 2 know more about Mohammed, u wil definitely understand me..Accordin 2 philosophy, dere is no need of 2 argue if d parties involve wil nt agree at d end of d arguement cos it wil just result in waste of time..in conclusion, dont expect any reply 4rm me again and i pray God wil makes u understand d scriptures urself and nt sayin it is beyond Man's understandin cos of all it's contradiction...

Lol... Escapism

obadiah777: most high is high on the holy spirit

which product bears the name holy spirit? Gist me bro........I love new stocks

RoyPCain: the first for sure. i just kinda played into the 2,000 as attraction, hoping it will make them come in wanting to be part of the post, if not 'first to comment'. the true purpose is like vinegar. so i think the 'honey' is creating traction and traffic.

i will be writing you soon, InshaAllah. england is still what it is.

@ bold.... Obviously, you got that. Chris†Kid tasted it and shows it effect... Let see more.

Hope you remember I have moved from yahoo to gmail? Yahoo dey give me problem...

Rashe: no 1: Mohammed can not read or write durin his life time and how do u expect some1 like him 2 av all d knowledge of all d past prophets? No 2: mohammed preaching which is d one-ness of God is d same wit other prophet no 3: Moses law which he said wil never change till d end of d world somehow change in d bible which is d indication dat dere is sometin wrong somewher in ur own modernizes bible no 4: I cant change anybody 2 convert cos am nt d creator of his/heart and in view of dis, am argueing no more. No 5: I rest my case....

You are waste of time. Seriously you dont know anything about your faith or prophet. Was mohamed not the one heading kadija caravan? How can a business tycoon do without issueing receipt? That for that. Lets see what the quran says about this.

Quran 68:1-7
Sahih International

1. Nun. By the pen and what they inscribe,
2. You are not, ]O Muhammad[, by the favor of your Lord, a mad man.
3. And indeed, for you is a reward uninterrupted.
4. And indeed, you are of a great moral character.
5. So you will see and they will see
6. Which of you is the afflicted ]by a devil[.
7. Indeed, your Lord is most knowing of who has gone astray from His way, and He is most knowing of the ]rightly[ guided.


^^^^what reward does a person that couldn't write having with a pen?


96:1-3
Sahih International

1. Read in the name of your Lord who created-
2. Created man from a clinging substance.
3. Read, and your Lord is the most Generous

^^^^here the prophet can read, where did you get your cant read and cant write theory from?

Take your ignorance and taqiyya elsewhere

obadiah777: you better worry about yourself chief lol. me ? hopefully i would be celestial. you ? will be terrestrial

when it 2016, you will be under earth and I stand on earth........fvcking kele on your eternal bed