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successinlife:
The same man the quoran spoke about the nature of his birth,his mission on earth and sending his angel 'Gibril' to inform his mother.

What is this brainwashed mofo saying?

Cletus77:
So because you didn't see your forefathers means you aren't descended from dem?

They didn't die for my sin.

Explain to us how Jesus died for your sin 2000yrs ago.

If the wages of sin is death, and Jesus died to save you from sin, but you are still gonna die, it mean Jesus died in vain.

heendrix:
when Jesus was about to be taken peter cut the ear of the guard who wanted to take jesus yet jesus healed him. on the cross he prayed for his killers

if he was a coward like you said I guess he would have ran away coz he knew he could die

English been dealing people heavy blow since 19BC now go spend hours with your dictionary to know what it means to be a coward after doing that you can quote me

While dying when he can fight Satan head on?

The war couldn't start since 4000yrs and another 2000yrs since he died. He coud have taken the war to satan instead of forming one silly heroic death. He js a bloody coward

heendrix:
I see how far ignorance has chocked your life and everything about your idea about things? he couldn't safe himself? are you just so daft to know his birth and death is for a purpose

atleast our Lord Jesus went about doing good and even died for the world not like one Mohammed who is a rapist and right now as I speak his bones are decaying somewhere in saudi

And what made you think I am a Muslim?

Jesus was a coward and died like one. Deal with that

Cletus77:
Save you from the devil and sin

Well he died 2000 yrs ago. I wasn't alive then. How did he die for someone that wasn't born

Cletus77:
He sacrificed himself to save you

Save me from what?

orunto27:
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Don't twist the meaning. Jesus too, is reading your Texts.

Jesus can read too

Who taught him English language

The heroic lie of Jesus has to be debunked all for once.

Jesus was a coward.

He couldn't save himself.

He had to die in the face of horsewhip instead of taking the war to Satan once and for all.

2000 years after his death, Jesus is still hiding behind God and couldn't bring the war on.

Jesus died for sin. The wage of sin is death. Jesus has not removed the embargo caused by sin, therefore we still die today. It mean Jesus died in vain.

Happy Easter

orunto27:
No. He is a Peaceful and loving Redemption for all humans.

Wrong.

Mathew 10:34
Do not think that I came to bring peace on the earth; I did not come to bring peace, but a sword.

Jesus is not peaceful and didn't bring any peace to the world. His teaching has rather caused more rancour, enmity, war and death to life.


Mathew 15:24
But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

Mathew 10:5/6
These twelve Jesus sent out with the following instructions: “Do not go among the Gentiles or enter any town of the Samaritans. Go rather to the lost.

Jesus did not die to redeem the humanity. He died for the lot sheep of Israel, not the lions of babylon or the elephant pf Ethiopia

Can God have sex?

The Angels can. They raped the daughter of men. And even had sex with Mary without her consent. God would be some kind of sex starved creature

Without Judas betraying his, he would still be killed.

Jesus was not killed because he was betrayed. He was killed because he is a criminal, blasphemer and a coupist. These offenses warrant death by killing.

stephleena:
very simple..
take a good look at Genesis, 3:15:
and I will put enimity,between thee and the woman ,and between thy seed and her seed,and it shall bruise thy head, and thy shall bruise his feet..
Jesus represents the seed of eve,which we all know he came through a woman Mary,the daughter of eve.
Judas,represented the seed of the serpent, and for the prophecy, that had been said by God,long ago in the garden of eden,the seed of the woman,(Jesus)and the sef of the serpent (Judas),had to come together for the final stage.
remember, it was this same Judas,always trying to tackle Jesus, recall the issues of the expensive perfume, used in washing the master's feet.
and finally the prophecy given so many years, came to play In the book of John14,when the seed of the woman finally trumped over the seed of the serpent.

If we are going to accept your defence, it only shows that the whole show was predetermined. Why then is Judas rebuked for playing his role in the script?

Omuneizzy6:
some people are just naturally stupid, stupidity get rules too. This one even stupid dey call u stupid

You are the stupid person who believe anything without asking questions. Who and what is Jesus saving you from?

That lad has found a boyfriend who happen to be Christian. And she enjoys the guy diiick which caused her hallucination

Emmanystone:
Demons lie to hell. Just imagine your lies. Does it make you feel good in your demon's worship? Yes it does. When satan lies, he speaks his native language...

Jesus told you to hate your parents, where? And do you see Christians around you hating their parents and siblings saying it's what the Bible says? Liars have their place in hellfire.

You can start by posting where Apostle doubted the existences of Jesus. Even if he did, i am Apostle Paul?

What do i expect

Yahweh lied, maybe he is the demon, and was hell bent slandering another person image. He sent the spirit of lie, the one he created for a sinister motive, made a creature in his own image lie so that he could hang the soul. He caused a man to lie by possessing a king with lying spirit, he then turn around to kill the king...what a wicked and demonic god you worship. Even Jesus lied...is your sweet jesus a demon too?

Yahweh created evil, caused calamity and disaster to happen in the nation of people. Yahweh, we know is the devilish demon. It is your duty to tell us about demon worship because you worship one.

Jesus told those who wants to follow him. He said if you will become my disciple, you have to hate your parents, hate your siblings, hate your in laws and love him only. Oh, maybe you have not gotten there in your sunday school. Or your teacher is not teaching it. But seeing your behaviour, you knew about that teaching of hating one parent as Jesus taught you, and you have exhibited it on many threads. You Emmanystone is a disgruntled hateful beast. A beast who sees everyone who doesn't believe in her fantasy as hellbond. A beast who believe her ancestors are in hellfire for not accepting the Roman fiction. We have many of you in the society. They are not only believers but hateful toward their parents because they found a new faith.

Apostle Paul is the founder of Christianity. He found the new religion on the legend generally believed in his days. If he doubted the existence of Jesus, it mean the faith has no solid foundation and it is scam. It is good you were scammed but very bad you lose your conscience after been brainwashed.

Today is Easter, the day Jesus resurrection is celebrated. Your ancestors celebrate Egungun too or any ancestor worship in their culture. If your parents worship are demonic, how is your zombie jesus easter festival Godly? The Easter legend is well known though

The same man that cannot save himself from been killed or force his return to earth after been killed 2000 years ago wants to save a young lad in a faraway Nigeria. The lady is in love and enjoying a Christian diiick. That is the true story

Emmanystone:
Okay, YHWH, Jesus and non of the Apostles existed. Are you happy now?

When i see your moniker talking about whether or not Jesus existed, i will consider you disturbed.

Jesus doesn't exist, now have peace.

She chickened out.

Apostle Paul doubted Jesus existence and almost convinced that his faith and all long preaching could be in vain. How much more a Nigerian that has been brainwashed and thought her ancestors are demons.

What could be more demonic than followership of roman invention, a cult where hatred of one parent, siblings and in laws is the pass into discipleship.

Jolar101:
Are you not ashamed how your president Buhari and his cabals can't equipped just federal hospitals and schools in just 36 states revenues?

Sir Bill Gates is, that how you being programmed to think.

No More Second Tenure For Presidency and State Governors.

How is my decision and choice of presidential candidate your problem? I steal your PVC? You guys always behave like fuccktard when anyone show a different opinion. For Godsake, this is a public forum and my right to vote count. If you ain't pleased with my choice, vote contrary and let the majority win.

President Buhari can travel for medical leave in as much he communicates the National assembly and hands over to the senate.

I do not need an Oyinbo pepe to teach me how to run my life. If you don't like Buhari govt, go get your pvc and quit bíitching me

2019 is sealed and stamped for Buhari. The coalition of PDP and her sister minions cannpt shake us

Livestream link abeg. DSTV and the yeye Startime don treat my fucckup tonight

DSTV no go show this match live. Startime too is silent on it. Wetin man go do? I need to watch this match live

@Pagan9ja

The thread has been derailed but not withstanding, we can still keep on with the purpose the thread is determined to serve, which I believe is Education. Kindly explain what you want us to share. Or kinda example of what you have in mind that should be shared.

@Emmanystone

This thread is purposely opened for the adherents of ATS to rub mind and exchange knowledge, and those who will to learn about traditional. You have done so well by derailing this long. Can you please leave peacefully and join your colleagues in faith where topic founded on Christianity is the talk? Thanks

Paperwhite:
And the APC thinks it is uhuru for them Not yet as reasonable Nigerians will confine them to the dustbin of histroy where they rightly belong.

The 'reasonable Nigerians' according to your own definition are the developers who are already boycotting INEC registration. The so called 'born throway' are registering every day in their millions. In 2019, Buhari will win the election backed by 'born throway' votes. The reasonables can have their say, action speaks louder

Nigerians shoud be wary of Obasanjo, the false alarmist. He told us that Otueke-drunkard is training 1000 Assassins in Israel with the mission to eliminate some high profiled politicians. But where are the Assassins today?

Obasanjo who turned a blind eye when General Azazi was killed. He is here all over again forming the oracle. He is blind, bored and only looking for relevance.

The old general should retire from politics as he promised. We are tired of his useless utterance

^^^^ Traditionalists are not materialistic. Been wealthy is not having some billions of dollar in the bank account or flying private jet gotten from scandalous deal on the alter or defrauding of innocent souls. True wealth is ENLIGHTENMENT, BALANCE AND HARMONY and PEACE OF MIND. The abundance of all these bring happiness within.

Corruption has been officially institutionalized in Nigeria. Every section in this country is infested with corruption. Who have we offended? I wish huge meteorite can just hit the national assembly. The problem of Nigeria starts and ends there. A senator runs office with 13m monthly excluding salary and entitlement that comes in form of bribery. This is happening when the country minimum wage is 18k monthly. Boko Haram should leave innocent Nigerians alone and turn their struggle toward the direction of National Assembly.

Emmanystone:
But, why does those who don't believe in the existence of satan dedend him so? Or, is Satan Esu?

We are arguing on a premises base on the bible account. It doesn't validate the existence of sky daddy and his antagonist.

MuttleyLaff:
¹⁰You have always protected him and his family and everything he owns.
You bless everything he does, and you have given him enough cattle to fill the whole country.
¹¹But now suppose you take away everything he has—he will curse you to your face!”
¹² “All right,” the Lord said to Satan,
“everything he has is in your power, but you must not hurt Job himself.”
So Satan left.
- Job 1:10-12

Modestly, seven sons, three daughters and a number of other people in the household, which possibly are at least 50 servants

Your argument holds no water. It has no substance and explodes even before you present it.

Do a quick check on the red emboldened sentence in the verse you posted.

Satan was ordained to kill, destroy and set on ruin everything he had by Yahweh. He couldn't have done it if Yahweh had not granted him the chance to.

This line of argument is akin to the pro-gun motion which holds that gun doesn't kill, people do the killing. This is right and fair

If we are going to apply the above logic to this argument, Yahweh is the culprit here because he deliberately ordained Satan to kill and destroy. Yahweh in this case is somewhat like a Politician that sends Assassins to kill people. On who's order is the Assassin operating, the politician. On who's order is Satan operating, God. Therefore, Yahweh is the wicked culprit here.

This case is not happening just once. On several occasions, Yahweh has sent his ANGELS to annihilate the whole city. 1 Chronicles 21:15 and Isaiah 37:36 and lot more.

MuttleyLaff:
...he was a murderer from the beginning,
refusing to uphold the truth, because there is no truth in him.
When he lies, he speaks his native language,
because he is a liar
and the father of lies.
- John 8:44

People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw a boomerang
Make a wild guess, who from above, in print, is called a murderer, a murderer from the beginning?
Read 1 John 3:8 below, the situation problem, the works of this murderer, is what God came to put an end to

You are only making n accusation here without presenting facts on how Satan lied, killed and destroyed on his own volition.

You just don't say because you detest and unjustly want to hang Satan, you backup your point with verifiable evidence.

Murder mean deliberately killing of someone. Has Satan deliberately killed anyone? Isn't the act of killing carried out on the order of Yahweh?

MuttleyLaff:
The one who practices sin is of the devil,
because the devil has been sinning from the beginning.
For this purpose the Son of God was revealed: to destroy the works of the devil.
- 1 John 3:8

I dont have a need to make things up
The Devil, aka Satan's track record, is doing a "good" job at speaking on Satan's behalf
Right from the beginning, Satan has been at it

Hogwash. Yahweh caused evil. Therefore he is the devil.

MuttleyLaff:
When you go find out you what Olodumare really and properly means, you'll have the answer to your "What" queries

You tell us what justice it's in the killing of babies, making children suffer even without committing any sin.

MuttleyLaff:
Mr Moralising FOLYKAZE, make no mistake about it.
God is Good, God is ever Just
God's decisions are not only Just but in addition, are always sensible.

Another horseshiit. A good tree does not produce a bad fruit. Only a bad tree produces bad fruit. Out of Yahweh emanated evil, therefore, he is not good but evil.

MuttleyLaff:
A response like this vindicates me, when I said your explanation of Olodumare is wack

Throw in the towel now that you know your God is a blood thirsty tyrant that kills people with an unjust cause. For one, he made a young man live in darkness almost for half of his lifetime without committing any sin but this God want to glorify himself by making people suffer. What a sadist God you worship.

Well, Eledumare is Deistic. And he doesnt watch how you bang your wife or if you hits her from the backside. Why should any God pokenose into the affair of men?

MuttleyLaff:
Keep on enjoying your strawman
Keep it to yourself, as I am not interested in it

Going on another of your major illogical detours, are you again

You wont see that line of argument because you have long been blinded from seeing the truth.

At a point you were supporting God killing innocent children under the tag unjust 'judgement'. If God can kill his creature, why shouldn't husband rape his wife?

MuttleyLaff:
Satan kills, contrary to what you think.
If you doubt, I can list you a modest number of people killed directly and indirectly by Satan

Oh please can you help us with the numbers of people Satan killed.

MuttleyLaff:
Of course Satan killed in the bible
Satan did then and still does to date,
albeit, must be said that, not without God allowing Satan to

The red colored statement of yours further shows that the act of killing wasn't done by Satan but Yahweh. That, who order killing is also a murderer.

MuttleyLaff:
Whatever, Satan can't steal, Satan will kill
and if Satan can't kill, Satan will opt to destroy.

And please stop making things up. You need to show how Satan steals, how he killed, how he destroyed.

MuttleyLaff:
This says it all, by the way,
we are not basing it on our own moral standard,
besides what you call killing,
again repeating, is actually judgement

You are actually depicting your God as a blood thirsty beast who derived joy in the killing unborn children and little innocent adolescent who does not understand the law, concept of sin and general way of life. Maybe it is a judgement to you, when the blood thirsty God ordered his foot soldiers to smash babies head on a rock, and remove foetus with a sword. And I ask, what are the sins of children which cause of their death is God? That is not moral standard. It is judgement huh? What is God judging a day old baby for? What are the sins of baby that died?

If I were to define Judgment, I would say it is a way of making a decision. However, this decision can either be just or unjust. When the decision of God is unjust, it practically mean he is evil and the he is the devil.

This makes me remember a story from John 9. It is a story about a boy that was born without an eye. From the day he was born, till he met Jesus, this boy cannot sight anything. And when Jesus was asked, what exactly the sin of the young man is. He answered in John 9:3
Neither hath this man sinned, nor his parents: but that the works of God should be made manifest in him.

Neither the boy or his parents has sinned. So why the hell did God makes him suffer and lost in total darkness? Ya, it is judgement, according to you. So I asked my dear.,what is the sin, basis and reason why God make this boy blind? Jesus answered it....He wants to glorify Himself with the suffering, pains, agony and anguish of been in darkness since birth.

That God of yours dude is a sadist. He enjoys making people suffer for no just cause. And you were mentioning judgement when there is no justice, uprightness and fairness. There is no wrongdoing, what is your God judging?

MuttleyLaff:
Children are a gift from the LORD;
they are a reward from Him.
- Psalms 127:3

Giving birth, doesn't relinquish who, really had, and has rights, over the kids.

The parents are custodians,
given the responsibility of taking care of
and protecting their child(ren).

They are still answerable to God,
and will give account and explanations to God,
how they fared, as regards, being trusted with the kids.

We've heard it said, a man who finds a wife,
finds good, and obtains favour from God

Oh! God's gift is very unpleasant when one divorce his wife. Maybe God doesn't know the right partner for a supposed husband.

The selection of gifts from God, especially in a case of raping, fornication and adulery explains that your God has a bad choices. Many' unwanted' children have been given birth to from inactions of their parents which could be rape, fornication and adultery. Would you regard these kids as gift from God? If yes, God bless the sinners. Law against sin has been invalidated

Hosea 2:4 "Upon her children I have no pity, because they are children of whoredom"

Deuteronomy 23:2 "those born of an illicit union shall not be admitted to the assembly of the LORD. Even to the tenth generation, none of their descendants shall be admitted to the assembly of the LORD."

And the Holy Lord BLESSED illicit union of two grown up adults with a child. This child, according to you, is a GIFT from God. It doesn't matter if he is a product of rape, adultery or fornication, the child is a GIFT. But the God turns around to reject and throw out this precious GIFT of his from his fold. This God must be crazy.

MuttleyLaff:
So what's with all this remark, about right to kill a child because of giving birth to them and/or right to rape a woman because you paid dowry?

You are doing a telling sign of strawman with your those parents' and man's rights.

A woman is a subject of a man just like a man is a subject to God. Atleast that is how the bible made us understand. As the case may be, a Christian that supports killing of mankind by a God should be able to support raping of a wife by husband. Afterall, we are God own property just like my wife is my property.

CuteMadridista:
Christians would say Yahweh created everything so he has the right to kill what it created. just playing the devil's, oopss, advocate here

That attempt is very poor.

So parents havs rights to kill their children because they bore them?

A man has right to rape a woman because he has paid her bride prize?

CuteMadridista:
This is why OtemAtum calls Yahweh Satan

He is right.

Can you help us list the numbers of people killed directly and indirectly by Yahweh? For the record, Satan didn't kill anyone in the bible.

If killing is evil, base on our moral standard, Yahweh is the devil