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TheGoodJoe:
There was an array of stars at the 2013 Cup of Nations, and Pitroipa was certainly among them. But Mikel was a supernova. And when he shone, the stars disappeared.

http://m.bleacherreport.com/articles1524167-why-john-obi-mikel-should-have-been-named-afcon-mvpp

TheGoodJoe:
If it is the 5-0 thrashing of Groningen by Vitese, Marvelous Nakamba was the man of the match and not Solanke.


The 21-year-old joined Vitesse from French second-tier side AS Nancy at the start of the 2014/15 season, but took time to find his feet, making only eight appearances, all off the bench, with a paltry total of 97 minutes.

But all that has changed this season for the Bulawayo-born former Bantu Rovers central midfielder as he has played 773 minutes of football, from nine starts in his club’s 10 matches this term.

So marvellous has been Nakamba this season that he has been named man of the match for his side twice, including in the 5-0 demolition of FC Groningen where he was given a nine out of 10 rating.


https://www.newsday.co.zw/2015/10/27/nakambas-star-shines/

safarigirl:
you would make a terrible coach and a crap football analyst.

You just dey shout bench warmer up and down, you conveniently forget that Mikel the bench warmer was Nigeria's best player at AFCON and the best Nigerian player at the Confeds too, if you reach go warm bench now, even Taraba United bench you no go see.


Like say na you be top performer for your field.... all these faceless forums that anybody can just come and be teasing people wey pass am

TheGoodJoe:
Please, let Siasia leave Nacho. Iheanacho is not a regular player. He is a bench warmer. Let Siasia call rhe regular players like Ighalo, Musa, Martins. There are others like Olaitan and Ezekiel.

Let him leave Nacho for us.

joseph1013:
Okay sir. But abeg if you are Martins or you know him, I dey loyal o. I like Martins well well. Obagoal of life!

TheGoodJoe:
The coach can give those he wants to give a chance and also help build players that do not get good chances overseas.

If Wenger did not sign Kanu after the Surgery and helped him rebuild his career, he would have gone down the drain.

My problem is, are we going to let our promising talents go down the drain if foreign clubs do not support them?

shogz89:
lol,,i have always wondered why he kept on mentioning martins ,, when he is actually the last person that is supppose to be on that list of overaged players,, guess he personally likes the guy

terzurum5:

Awoniyi had not signed any contract after the U-20 AYC but still qualified Nigeria for the AAGs.

Why Ajayi who was a starter in his Club was just missing goals, as if he was an academy player.

I feel its too early to tag them bench warmers, knowing fully well that they just signed contracts with their new Clubs. So you see they just need some time to blend and before you know, they will begin to shine for their Clubs.

Look at Musa Muhammed for instance. It took him several months to break into the squad and make his official league match debut, but when he did, he produced a super performance that earned him Man of the Match in the Turkish league.

Oga Forgiveness, Rio 2016 is still 7 to 8 months to go, give these guys a chance and time. They will surely surprise you.

joseph1013:
Are you Obafemi Martins? I was reliably told that Martins is on nairaland and quite active. Are you him?

TheGoodJoe:
One of my problems with the Nigerian coaches is that they never help in building. Look at Oliseh and Nacho's case. He was fighting to get a chance to play in the senior squad and Oliseh was not ready to give him a chance. As soon as he put the Man of The match performance, Coach Oliseh called him.

Our players have a tough task proving themselves in Europe. When will our coaches have a plan to help push our players.

Now Isaac Success needs exposure to shine. Yet, no national team call up.

If he was playing for the senior side, other clubs might look at him. That is why when I hear the bench warmer talk it irritates me.

TheGoodJoe:
I will feel disappointed if Siasia does not address the weak points we saw in that tournament.

If he plans to call Ighalo and Musa, I beg Coach Siasia not to call Nacho. Let him cintinue his training than benching at the Olympics.

The main weak points are faulty passes and poor defence. That is where he needs to work on. Or he wants another score first half, concede second half scenario.

TheGoodJoe:
How can you praise that comment by Coach Siasia. If I ask you what are the weakest points of the team, what will you say?

TheGoodJoe:
Enlighten me.. Please which match and against which team? That is better than Crystal Palace.

terzurum5:
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AF Nigeria 2015 U23 Africa Cup of Nations Nigeria U23
Siasia hints on Ighalo, Ahmed Musa for Rio Olympics
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Coach Samson Siasia has hinted he is looking at the possibility of getting Eagles skipper Ahmed Musa and striker Odion Ighalo to feature at next year’s Rio Olympics as overage players.

The Olympics allow for three players outside the eligible age of 23 years to star at the tournament proper.

Chelsea star Mikel Obi has already declared his interest to play in Rio.

Siasia said he hopes to draft players who are playing regularly for their European clubs for the Olympics.

“I’m still undecided on the areas that the overage players would be needed, but I’m happy that the likes of Ighalo (Odion), (Ahmed) Musa, are in top form now and I hope they will sustain it until the Olympics,” the Nigeria U23 coach said on a television programme.

The Olympics will be staged in August 2016.
africanfootball.com/news/594535/Siasia-hints-on-Ighalo-Ahmed-Musa-for-Rio-Olympics
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TheGoodJoe:
I will not tag Ajax under Frank De Boer as Weak.

TheGoodJoe:
[b]Do not play the age card, Nacho passed the MRI. Solanke is a promising talent but, the likes of Success, Nacho, Awo are stars plucked out from our system.

The Coaches can give Solanke a chance but, that boy has his eyes on England. Let us face it, they wait to see if England can give them a chance before Nigeria.

Ibe's case is enough to help you understand this.

Nacho's name is not from Academy goals, in two preseason tours with Man City, he was among the standout talents in a star studded City.

Dzeko was a big City talent, Jovetic was also brilliant. These two left, Pellegrini bought Bony and left Iheanacho to fill the other.

That shows the kind of faith the club has in him.

Solanke might have Reserve team goals but Nacho showed his quality playing for the main City team. Despite few games due to injuries, the coaches ticked him as class.

His man of the match performance in the Carling Cup against a strong EPL side like Crystal Palace was amazing. He dominated a field with a star studded City.

When Solanke puts in a man of the match performance against a strong EPL side, I will start taking him seriously as a match to Nacho.[/b]

forgiveness:
First of all, you have to consider that Solanke was only 17 years old before the 2015/2016 league commenced. So, there is no need for you to compare him with those players.

However, Dominic Solanke is not fully English, he is a Nigerian/Foreign. As you can see from his name.

How many league games has Loftus played this season for Chelsea first team? Loftus is 19 while Solanke was 17 prior to the new season.

You say what bros? Do you mean, what competition does Solanke have in the likes of Diego Costa( a player that scored 21 league goals in the just concluded season) and Remy(a player that scored a total of 21 goals in his last two league seasons)?

We know that Falcao was plagued with injury for 7 months(Jan - July 2014) before he left Monaco for Manchester United. Meaning he didn't play competitive football for almost a season and that affected his performance in his first season at Manchester United. It doesn't mean he is a bad player. Falcao is among the best strikers in the world in recent times.

As you can see, he is faced with prolific goal scorer at the age of 17. That doesn't dispute the fact that he's better than the trio you mentioned at his age to have achieved all those things.

We know kelechi-iheanacho is 19 years while Solanke was 17 years prior to the 2015 /2016 season.

There was no need for Man City to add another striker because it was obvious that Man City used only one inform striker last season and that striker(Aguero) scored a total of 32 goals with 8 assist last season hence Man City bought Wilfred Bony from Swansea in the middle of the last season. As you can see, Man City already bought a replacement for Dzeko. What you said is not true.

Iheanacho got his chance because their inform striker got injured and the newly acquired is struggling. That's all.

Where is Taiwo playing for now?

Success never near him achievement now.

Last bullet; Chelsea no be Manchester city mate now when it comes to football(Premier-league & UEFA Champions League) na.

Star students o sorry star studded wey no fit beat Dutch Champions in the 2012/2013 UEFA Champions League .

Start students(for Europe) wey no fit come out from UEFA round of 16 until now wey Chelsea don't dey do tey tey

Chelsea are contenders while Manchester city are pretenders when it comes to UEFA Champions League.

joseph1013:
@the bolded. Ever since safarigirl wrote her article about the Golden Eaglets and Age controversies, I have decided not to continue in a debate with anyone who cast doubt on Nigerian players who passed the MRI test.

See you on another topic.

joseph1013:
[b]Unfortunately, I mistakenly pressed SUBMIT before finishing my thoughts. You may see my elucidated points now.

When we say that Mourinho does not like young talents, it is mostly in reference to foreign talents. Mourinho has shown alot of disposition to English players. In 2004/2005 season, he kept a mediocre players like Anthony Grant (18) and Joe Tillen (who was 19) on the squad. Glen Johnson (21) was a part of the squad. Mourinho bought Scott Parker (23). He retained Wayne Bridge (24), Joe Cole (24), Lampard (25) and trusted a 24-year old John Terry with the Captaincy band. You cannot accuse him of bias against English youth players. You can't! For those that are good enough, he used them. Or can you tell me of an English player that Mou rejected that went on to set the league on fire?

Let's fast forward to 2015/2016 season. Mourinho brought from the youth team Ruben Loftus-Cheek. Notice that Loftus and Solanke played in the Youth team together, yet it was Solanke that was loaned out while Loftus was promoted to the main team. They are both English.

What was very interesting about that decision is that Loftus should have been the one to be loaned out cos he had great competition in his position. Fabregas, Ramires, Matic, Mikel, and Oscar are players way ahead of him who can play the Central Midfield Position. What competition did Solanke have in his position? Remy and Costa. In fact it was so bad that instead of Mou to promote Solanke, he went to bring an off-form Falcao from United. It was that sad.

You will have us believe that Solanke is the best Youth talent Nigeria has right now in Europe (because let's face it, if you say he is better than Kelechi, Awoniyi and Success who are arguably our most promising players, then you're saying he is the best), yet he was not good enough for a depleted Chelsea forward department.

Bro, statistics are not in your favour on this.[/b]

joseph1013:

You said he was too much for the Academy and thus loaned out to the Dutch league. Yet an Iheanacho that became fit just two months to the end of the season did enough for the team such that a star-studded Man City could not do but include him in their first team where most fans rate him higher than Bony.

Solanke was so good yet he could not even nail a 3rd striker spot in a Chelsea team even though Drogba announced his retirement, yet Kelechi was so far behind him that an accomplished player like Dzeko was sent on loan and a replacement was not brought in for his sake.

Can anyone see the irony in your argument? You bet!

joseph1013:
I knew you would include Iheanacho in your praise of Solanke, and I also knew you wont tell us that Iheanacho only got introduced only two months to the end of the season.

You said he was too much for the Academy and thus loaned out to the Dutch league. Yet an Iheanacho that became fit just two months to the end of the season did enough for the team such that a star-studded Man City could not do but include him in their first team where most fans rate him higher than Bony.

Solanke was so good yet he could not even nail a 3rd striker spot in a Chelsea team even though Drogba announced his retirement, yet Kelechi was so far behind him that an accomplished player like Dzeko was sent on loan and a replacement was not brought in for his sake.

Can anyone see the irony in your argument?

BascoVanVeli:
Success and Iheanacho are miles ahead of any player you have mentioned and to say that what's his face is more skilled than Iheanacho in front of goal is not true.

Icon4s:
Hope you know the position Saviour plays?

TheGoodJoe:
He replaced Bony in some games and played as a top man. Pellegrini was trying to dodge his mistake of not playing Nacho upfront after Bony picked up an injury early in the game.

Since then, Nacho has played as a top man. He is now a striker. It is just that Pellegrini likes his strikers playing like attack midfielders when they drop deep. You see this mostly from Aguero who used to play as an attacking midfielder in Independiente and Atletico Madrid.

TheGoodJoe:
Imoh Ezekiel and Olaitan may bang goals for their clubs. Awo is already a tested player for Siasia. The coached worked with him and he is in the team. Even if he brings Ezekiel and Olaitan, they have to perform in camp to topple him.

We are not saying Coach Siasia should not give them a chance. We are against them having a preference. Even Nacho should fight for his place despite his exploits at City.

As for Success, he is in a top league with a sh!!t team. There is no way he can pull in numbers in that situation but he is a natural finisher. Coach Siasia knows why he called Success before the likes of Ezekiel and Olaitan. If Success was in their positions, I can stake he will outscore their performances.

TheGoodJoe:
How many times has Iheanacho played as an attacking midfielder for Man City. From his preseason games to his loan to America, to the EDS and the current season as Man City, he has played as a forward.

TheGoodJoe:
You will drop Azubuike Okechukwu for Aneke. I disagree there.

How many times have you seen Success playing as a left winger?

We are going to play an expansive game. Which means a lot of the ball is going to go wide. We need natural wingers creating for the finisher. So Simon will move to his more favored left.

TheGoodJoe:
You will drop Azubuike Okechukwu for Aneke. I disagree there.